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Police Girl · **Reply #1350 on:** September 24, 2017, 01:11:16 AM

Sonic Cycle in full effect.

People already bitching about the game before its out.

Nothing ever changes.

Frozen Potato · **Reply #1351 on:** September 24, 2017, 03:41:19 AM

Man if you guys are already bitching about a game despite not being out yet, try look at PSO2 ep4, where back than update wasnt even out yet and someone already wasted their account by selling high tier equipment to npc's because of the beyond retarded setting of the game, and people are right about EP4's setting being terrible.

It's not the same game but since this is coming from Sega with their terrible record on their main franchise I understand that people are worried, but I'm more hopeful with Sonic Forces than whatever the [tornado fang] they are doing in PSO2 Ep5 at the moment. No dont ask about western version pso2, its never coming with the amount of collabs and content they did on JP version, they"ll never catchup and ditch the game like people said about PSU

VirusChris · **Reply #1352 on:** September 24, 2017, 06:26:17 AM

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TGS Interview.

Honestly nothing really new except that Classic Sonic will be hanging out with Tails in the Main Story, not to mention there's no Classic Sonic and Avatar Tag Team Stages.

And they confirmed 100% that Mania and Forces are connected. Really? We knew that ages ago... honestly they're being very tight-lipped about Forces. I wouldn't mind if they showed off concept art of a new stage or at least show if any Modern Sonic characters would be semi-playable.

VirusChris · **Reply #1353 on:** September 25, 2017, 12:39:57 AM

Sorry for the double post!

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Some clips of the songs from the game. Apparently both Fist Bump and Theme of Infinite will be over 4 minutes long.
Also a remix of White Jungle too.

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And this is orchestra music for the title screen and world map if I'm hearing correctly. And holy... this sounds magnificent!
If there's more orchestra tracks in Forces, the OST is going to be legendary. I already love all of the tracks so far!

I miss the merge double post feature...

EDIT: An interesting game theory on what another player thinks Infinite's true identity is.

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INFINITE = A DIFFERENT DIMENSION TAILS?
Well he does bring up interesting points, but I DOUBT that's the case. Too random, but Infinite kinda is FOX-like in appearance.

Also some of Forces Stage themes were uploaded too. Enjoy the tracks!

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^Seriously, this Live Performance... fix your mics! I know I can't expect perfection every time, but sheesh I barely make out the words.
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Flame · **Reply #1354 on:** September 25, 2017, 06:19:42 PM

I thought Eggman CREATED Infinite or something? I recall seeing that implied somewhere

Sakura Leic · **Reply #1355 on:** September 25, 2017, 06:29:39 PM

No Infinite is some mysterious entity that joined Eggman, and seems to connected with the Phantom Ruby in Mania, the ruby and Infinite make the same sound effect when their powers are being used.

It at least seems that both can bend time, space, and reality to their will as seen with the Hardboiled Heavies gaining sentience, sending Classic Sonic forward in time to the Forces setting in the true ending of Mania, and kicking the snot out of Modern Sonic in Forces.

Mirby · **Reply #1356 on:** September 25, 2017, 07:00:07 PM

Actually the story trailer shows Infinite in a tube in Eggman's lab. Kinda implies heavily that he's an Eggman creation. Doesn't mean he's not connected to the Phantom Ruby, however.

Sakura Leic · **Reply #1357 on:** September 25, 2017, 07:06:11 PM

Ah.......guess we'll have to wait til the game comes out, I mean space time travel reality warping is trippy as hell in any setting, but especially Sonic......since well.....yeah.

VirusChris · **Reply #1358 on:** September 25, 2017, 10:20:37 PM

Apparently another leak came out which reveals the file size of Sonic Forces:
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The default file size for the Switch version of Sonic Forces is going to be 7.042GB and I hear that the Xbox One's version is going to be 16.1GB. I guess, because of the details in graphics between the two versions I hear? I recall that Zelda: Breath of the Wild was 13GB in size? Seeing how big that title will be, I wonder how big Sonic Forces is going to be seeing as there's going to be at least 10 Modern Sonic Stages and Sonic Team mentioning it will be longer than Generations.

And... um... well I don't know if you guys know this yet, but... this... THIS is a thing that's happening. A Collaboration project with Sonic Forces and it's with... Hooters. I kid you not, I swear to heavens that this is real. Here's the pictures for it:

And here's the source:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/PWcgdYYcqaY?t=1512[/youtube]

I'm... I'm a little baffled really. This is the most OUT OF NOWHERE collaboration I have ever seen for a video game series. Or at least for Sonic. I'm not sure where they're going with this one. Perhaps Hooters is going to offer food-based items on Sonic at their restaurants. I never been to one sadly, haven't seen any in my local area, so I can't say.

I much as Hooters is... an interesting concept... I hope there's NO Hooters Outfit for the Avatars OCs. I'd feel like that would be out of place.
Except for maybe Rouge the Bat...

I'm not sure what to feel. Honestly it's not something permanent or mandatory for Sonic Forces so I don't really care, but SEGA of Japan... what are you doing? No, seriously, SEGA of Japan did this. Not Europe as some people were saying for some reason.

Amatiramisu · **Reply #1359 on:** September 26, 2017, 03:48:02 AM

Because Japan is fuckin weird dude

i think it's rad lmao

Sakura Leic · **Reply #1360 on:** September 26, 2017, 03:59:33 AM

I guess now Hooters has more relevance in Japan......?

VirusChris · **Reply #1361 on:** September 26, 2017, 04:53:29 AM

Quote from: Ammygelion on September 26, 2017, 03:48:02 AM

Because Japan is fuckin weird dude

i think it's rad lmao

I am well-aware of it and think it's awesome how crazy they can get.

I'm just trying to make heads or tails of where they're going with this one.

Frozen Potato · **Reply #1362 on:** September 26, 2017, 04:57:46 AM

There's this theory going around that Infinite is Tails from a bad ending of GG Sonic game where you didnt rescue Tails.

Sakura Leic · **Reply #1363 on:** September 26, 2017, 05:00:34 AM

Quote from: Space Potato on September 26, 2017, 04:57:46 AM

There's this theory going around that Infinite is Tails from a bad ending of GG Sonic game where you didnt rescue Tails.

God if Sega went that meta I'd be impressed.

VirusChris · **Reply #1364 on:** September 26, 2017, 05:26:46 AM

Don't think so, but THAT would be an interesting take on Infinite.

Another take is... some fans thought Sonic Forces would be the PERFECT "sequel" to Sonic Chronicles in terms of story. When you come back home at the end of Sonic Chronicles, Eggman has already conquered the world. Would've been a good tie-in, but none Sonic Chronicles is non-canon or ceased to exist due to lawsuits.

I was thinking of a joke that Infinite isn't Tails, but the WORST possible outcome ever!

Infinite is... drum roll please *drum roll... BIG THE CAT! He has the feline-like long ears behind the helmet, the long bushing tail, and Eggman experimented on him and implanted the Ruby Phantom into him changing his appearance! To give Sonic the utter despair and misery that Eggman wishes upon his hated foe! That's why he's hasn't been seen yet!

Hahaha... joking aside, I didn't mind Big. I quite liked him as a character, especially Chronicles' take on him. And the comics I hear.

Frozen Potato · **Reply #1365 on:** September 26, 2017, 05:36:14 AM

Nice try but people have already been joking around about Infinite being Big The Cat lmao

VirusChris · **Reply #1366 on:** September 26, 2017, 07:02:35 AM

Where and when? I never saw any such comments on here or GameFAQs. And I've been to the Sonic Sega Forums recently and not a thing.

Phi · **Reply #1367 on:** September 26, 2017, 07:51:19 AM

Is it surprising

Fans from all over have been making Big jokes for ages

Police Girl · **Reply #1368 on:** September 26, 2017, 07:23:38 PM

They showed off a new stage today.

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Welcome to Casino Forest, ancient ruins turned into a casino by Eggman.

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/912693357360455680

Its a Classic Sonic stage, a mix of Casino Night and either Aquatic Ruin or Stardust Speedway Past going by the background.

Sounds really nice, level seems short though. I imagine its still WIP.

VirusChris · **Reply #1369 on:** September 27, 2017, 12:40:19 AM

Two different Gameplay footage of the Casino:

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So the Ancient Mystic Ruins from SA1 is converted by Eggman into a Casino and Classic Sonic and Tails are going through the level to look for Modern Sonic? Someone theorized that the lack of enemies on stage is a result of Modern Sonic already clearing out the enemies before Classic Sonic got there. Would be cool if the previous stage affects the next stage like that, like as Modern Sonic and you beat a certain number of enemies in that zone and when you play as Classic Sonic next there's no enemies. Or if you didn't kill enemies there's plenty of enemies to attack.

I quite like the stage really, the Mystic Ruins from SA1 in the background turned into a Casino Palace is a nice touch and shows that Eggman will change every part of the world in his liking and image. Not only that he's disrespecting Knuckles' ancestral home which is going to tick him off. And the music, it reminds me greatly of the Casino level from Sonic 2 and Carnival from Sonic 3. The beat's great to dance to a lot.

Nice to see another level. I wonder what the Modern and Avatar versions will be like?

Also more insight on the Character Creation with an interview with Takashi Iizuka:
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/09/26/sonic-forces-devs-discuss-designed-custom-character-creator/

I wonder how much they saw? Still they should think outside the box with the body size, true most Sonic OCs use Sonic's body as a base and most of them are are like that. But when I see Bark the Polar Bear's body type, I kinda half expected to see the Bear Avatar be like that. Though there's some bear-like characters from the Sonic Comic with the body size we see.

So they're keeping it consistent. Hopefully if they do another Character Creation in the future for Sonic I hope they expand on it more, or perhaps DLC.

I know we haven't seen it, we can customize the ears, eyes, hairstyles, and possible mouth parts of the Avatar. It's not going to be the most complex Creation, but it's going to be very in-depth for a Sonic one.

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Not to mention you can go crazy with the eyes, like Tails Doll eyes from the Story and here in this video with the new screenshot. Also was I the only one who thought the armor outfit that Avatar looked like it came from Atlus' Strange Journey game? The mask part looks almost like the helmet from that game.

OBJECTION MAN · **Reply #1370 on:** September 27, 2017, 01:20:21 AM

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Feels like Sega is getting desperate after being shown up by their own licensed fan game.

Flame · **Reply #1371 on:** September 27, 2017, 01:38:58 AM

I wouldn't call it desperate, just... Weird.

Is Hooters that popular in Japan?

Mirby · **Reply #1372 on:** September 27, 2017, 03:01:59 AM

Firstly, that picture is just... disturbing on all levels. I'm a bit nauseous just looking at it.

Secondly, Mania is not a licensed fan game. Mega Man vs Street Fighter is a licensed fan game. Mania, while it may have started out outside of Sega, was officially sanctioned and overseen by SEGA for the majority of its development.

Two points I wanted to make clear here.

Also I like the idea behind the new Casino Forest Zone. Should be interesting to play through.

OBJECTION MAN · **Reply #1373 on:** September 27, 2017, 04:01:49 AM

Quote from: Mirby on September 27, 2017, 03:01:59 AM

Secondly, Mania is not a licensed fan game. Mega Man vs Street Fighter is a licensed fan game. Mania, while it may have started out outside of Sega, was officially sanctioned and overseen by SEGA for the majority of its development.

Oh of course, but I meant more or less that fans made Mania. It's development is so not-AAA it could very well have been a fan game if not sanctioned by SEGA themselves. It's a sad state of affairs where your fans come in and show you up. They have a better understanding of what makes a great Sonic game then your core team...

Frozen Potato · **Reply #1374 on:** September 27, 2017, 04:45:41 AM

Sonic has Hooters.

Lelouch and Maria Sama ga Miteru has pizzahut.

Even PSO2 has some pizza promotion/collaboration(like phantasy star portable with KFC and that Colonel mini robot support partner thing.)

Food promotion/collaboration on particular franchise is nothing new.

You call that desperate, but putting a cease and desist ( or whatever its called) is a dicker move that was practised a lot in other major companies.

Sonic Mania is proof that Sega is still somewhat acknowledging their fans loyalty to the franchise despite their own failures unlike a certain company who did almost absolutely nothing other than rehashes to their beloved franchise. I'd be happy if capcom gave JKB's fangame a proof of acknowledgement to show that they still care.

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