Super Smash Bros. Thread

[Satoryu]

Picked up my Mewtwo amiibo at Best Buy. They had a few Fox on the shelf, so I snagged one.

[Suppercut ♡]

Well personally Tifa's the best part of FF7 to me. 

Mah ni-- er, uh... my broth-- wait, no...

I agree, friend!

[Hypershell]

Got my Mewtwo at Target.  ...REALLY need to find a new place to put these things, the corner of the entertainment center next to my TV is getting awfully crowded.

[MC Jimmy]

Now all we need is Master Chief in the game.

[Amatiramisu]

LITERALLY 5 PEOPLE I KNOW HAVE SAID THAT EXACT THING IT'S SO [tornado fang]ing UNCANNY

[MC Jimmy]

Cloud honestly hasn't been on a Nintendo console ever I don't think.

[OBJECTION MAN]

Cloud has clearly been in the works long before the poll was taken into consideration. Don't worry about him stealing the spot from Shovel Knight or others (please Shantae!).

Also did anyone else notice that Cloud's normals are mostly Ike's? Same for Final Smash too. Kind of seems like he's somewhat a clone character like Captain/Ganadorf Marth/Roy, etc.

[Sakura Leic]

I hope that's not the case, even though it might be likely since Cloud's sword attacks are pretty standard for Claymore users so it would make sense for them to be cloney.  If only they gave him some Materia Magic to make him more unique, I remembered Dissidia did give him some Magic Specials and Death Battle did a great showing of that when they pitted him against Link, even though Link kicked his ass in the end.

[Blue Valkyrie]

Cloud honestly hasn't been on a Nintendo console ever I don't think.

Well there was Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, does that count?

[Sakura Leic]

And the Rythm game I can't spell. 

[Satoryu]

I count 5 games Cloud was in: Chain of Memories, re:Coded, both Theterythms, and the upcoming Final Fantasy Monster Hunter-ish game. I don't remember if he was in 358/2 Days.

Also did anyone else notice that Cloud's normals are mostly Ike's? Same for Final Smash too. Kind of seems like he's somewhat a clone character like Captain/Ganadorf Marth/Roy, etc.

I don't think they're that similar at all. I mean, obviously Omnislash is like Great Aether, but there are already a bunch of FSes like that. There are a handful of moves that are like Ike's, like down air and what I believe were neutral air and forward air (more on that in a bit). But everything else is completely different.

Before you bring up Climhazard, a lot of people assumed it's like Aether and Final Cutter in that it brings down the opponent after the initial hit. But look at the footage again. That part of the move only happens once. The other times Cloud only attacks upwards. So the downward part seems to be optional, like the second hit of Shulk's Up B.

Gamexplain just did a theory analysis of his moves. There you can go down the list and see. However, I disagree with a couple of their points. I don't believe Braver is a special move. I think it's his forward air. And the move in the air where he spins the Buster Sword around is his neutral air. As for what his fourth B move would be, I believe his Limit Break deal is a special move that temporarily buffs his other specials, kinda like Deep Breathing and Lightweight.

[Soultrigger]

As for what his fourth B move would be, I believe his Limit Break deal is a special move that temporarily buffs his other specials, kinda like Deep Breathing and Lightweight.

Didn't watch the video so not sure if I'm repeating anything, but my guess is down B charges the LIMIT gauge, which buffs a special move for one use. Using down B again probably does Finishing Touch (as we didn't see a normal variant). That's probably his main gimmick: charges a Little Mac-esque Power Meter manually, which can be used in a variety of ways.

My guess is limit break will make all his moves a potential finisher if it lands, besides maaybe Blade Beam.

On amiibo, the Famicom Robot seems to be releasing outside Japan. Which peeves me since I already imported.

[The Great Gonzo]

Late to the discussion, but I'd like to say:

Totally unexpected, but HELL YES. Give me the Cloud. And I'll bet that Sakurai and co. were aware of the more off-the-wall Smash picks (and the typical reactions to same) and were giggling maniacally in the hours before the Direct went live.

[Amatiramisu]

Cloud's Down-B is prolly just a counter lol

[Suppercut ♡]

I don't believe Braver is a special move. I think it's his forward air.

The argument is that he does it both in the air and on the ground, though.
(also, think Marth's side-B)

Cloud's Down-B is prolly just a counter lol

I am 75% sure I saw him counter at some point.

[Satoryu]

One thing I would like when the Cloud update comes is customs for the DLC characters. Mewtwo definitely needs them, Lucas needs an alternative to PK Freeze, and it would be a cool way to fit in some other shotoclone moves onto Ryu.

The argument is that he does it both in the air and on the ground, though.
(also, think Marth's side-B)

He was never shown doing it on the ground.

I am 75% sure I saw him counter at some point.

Don't listen to him.

[Suppercut ♡]

He was never shown doing it on the ground.

Don't listen to him.

Looking back through, I can see how I thought he had a counter, but I don't think he does. At some point, it looks like Ryu's move connects with him and he doesn't flinch (more of an instant armor type move) but on further inspection, he's actually hitting Mario above Cloud.

[Satoryu]

That's not Braver. That's Cross Slash.

[Sakura Leic]

Yeah this is Braver.

[yt]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnQC3XXZIw#[/yt]

[Suppercut ♡]

Yeah this is Braver.

[yt]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnQC3XXZIw#[/yt]

oh

welp

I will now kill myself for pretending to know anything about Final Fantasy

[Hypershell]

One thing I would like when the Cloud update comes is customs for the DLC characters. Mewtwo definitely needs them, Lucas needs an alternative to PK Freeze, and it would be a cool way to fit in some other shotoclone moves onto Ryu.

I doubt it'll happen, but it sure would be nice, specially since now that Mewtwo has an amiibo, that little lack of customization shows a bit more.  But then if we're going to talk about lacking custom features, they really should allow those attacks online also.

Thing is, the only of Mewtwo's specials that I'd definitely change is Disable, which is STILL useless.  Confusion is actually really awesome this time.  I do wish Shadow Ball would damage on the charge, but if they did that as a custom, they'd probably weaken it in some other way.

[Sakura Leic]

Direct started and the protag of the new Fire Emblem games is in.

[irgpie]

I know that FE's international success is owed to Smash Bros. to begin with, but goddang they are pushing it too much.

[Sakura Leic]

At least he/she plays very differently from the others.

EDIT: Oooh those Mii Costumes shot straight for my and Jelly's hearts.

EDIT 2: Well.....didn't see Bayonetta coming.....

[irgpie]

BAYONETTA

ALL IS FORGIVEN

I was so scared it was another Kid Icarus throwin.