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Hypershell · **Reply #50 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:01:45 AM

That......is true, but completely irrelevant.

Quote from: Flame on July 13, 2009, 12:49:46 AM

The arms and legs are X's regular green/blue, like with all his armors, and the armor itself is a brighter more "X" blue. the crystal is alos green whereas it was more of a sky blue before

X4 just directly reused X4's Ultimate Armor. complete with weapons and charge effect. >.>;

A nice observation, but that's not what I mean. You're speaking of the "armor add-ons" alone. I'm talking about X as a whole. Purple mid-joints and everything. It's particularly noticeable, and it too is part of X's appearance when he uses the UA against Zero.

Flame · **Reply #51 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:03:40 AM

I know that. i was talking to Cyber. He said there was no difference, So I pointed it out.

Hypershell · **Reply #52 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:06:34 AM

Fair enough. But the color-scheme of the mid-joints, if changed from normal, are as valid a part of the "armor" color scheme as any other. Such is the case in X5. X goes from normal unarmored scheme to complete X4 armor color, paler blue, purple arms/legs, the whole sheebang. If Cyber didn't notice that, he's not paying attention and/or it's been entirely too long since he played that battle.

CyberXIII · **Reply #53 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:26:32 PM

Quote from: Hypershell on July 13, 2009, 04:06:34 AM

Fair enough. But the color-scheme of the mid-joints, if changed from normal, are as valid a part of the "armor" color scheme as any other. Such is the case in X5. X goes from normal unarmored scheme to complete X4 armor color, paler blue, purple arms/legs, the whole sheebang. If Cyber didn't notice that, he's not paying attention and/or it's been entirely too long since he played that battle.

A little here, a little there. I was too busy trying not to die to take a good look at X's joints (I suck at playing with Zero) and haven't fought X in months.

TheOnly · **Reply #54 on:** July 13, 2009, 06:39:45 PM

Altho the Ultimate Armor in X6 got a nice paint job, it looked a little beat up when the big square thingies poped up at start of every level, you know...the "close ups".

Align · **Reply #55 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:29:00 PM

...Is it possible you are referring to the mugshots used in conversations?

TheOnly · **Reply #56 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:56:29 PM

Yes, I was talking about the mugshots. X looked cool in them mugshots too.

Hypershell · **Reply #57 on:** July 14, 2009, 01:02:10 AM

Quote from: TheOnly on July 13, 2009, 06:39:45 PM

Altho the Ultimate Armor in X6 got a nice paint job, it looked a little beat up when the big square thingies poped up at start of every level, you know...the "close ups".

If the surface looks uneven it's because the UA is supposed to have a slightly translucent look to it. You can see this in the X5 Power-Up Parts menu as well.

Flame · **Reply #58 on:** July 14, 2009, 04:39:44 PM

You can see it most in the armor Kits. they are translucent. I never understood X6's paintjob. It looks weird. especially with the light blue upper limbs...

CyberXIII · **Reply #59 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:09:05 AM

I wonder why they left it out of X7?

Flame · **Reply #60 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:30:01 AM

Because they were just too lazy to go the extra mile. it was their first 3D X outing. they were just too lazy for secrets or extras besides new game plus. though you can equip X's snipe missile (I think its purple coloring) and pretend youve got the ultimate armor.

Hypershell · **Reply #61 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:36:43 AM

Quote from: Flame on July 14, 2009, 04:39:44 PM

You can see it most in the armor Kits. they are translucent. I never understood X6's paintjob. It looks weird. especially with the light blue upper limbs...

I like X6's coloring, but I understand some adjustment being needed. In all honesty it probably would have fitted better with the older upper limbs, but X6 decided to brighten them for some reason.

Flame · **Reply #62 on:** July 19, 2009, 07:12:10 AM

X also got taller in X6 If I remember right.
also, not quite... maybe with Silver limbs. the Purple wouldn't go all that well with the black and Silver.

Hypershell · **Reply #63 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:36:28 AM

Nope, he's the same height. He may look larger in the saber frames due to being edited from Zero's old attacks, though.

X6 UA does not have silver highlights, as seen in the mugshots, it's actually still gold. Just a much paler gold.

Pringer X · **Reply #64 on:** July 20, 2009, 12:59:46 AM

Couldn't the original bit about the weapons, and even armor, be compared to Classic Mega Man, Metriod, Battle Network, Star Force, and Legends?

My guess is that the programmers were lazy and made a forced deletion, leaving it to be a mystery. My actual guess is that (and it ONLY applies to Classic and X) the weapon data erases itself after a certain period of time. As for why the hell Trigger doesn't have the same damn weapons as before, though, doesn't make a lick of sense.

For the armor, X could just have put it in some kind of 'hall of fame'. The Ultimate Armor is a bigger question, because the only non-code time I think you can get it is in X5, which makes sense, but it's also possible to get it at the start of the game, and even in X4 it's available.

Align · **Reply #65 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:14:12 AM

Isn't Legends explained in-game? Sold all your weapons, and all.

Hypershell · **Reply #66 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:17:07 AM

Indeed it was. The wise-crack I made first-page was in reference to that.

Roll sold all of Trigger's equipment between games to pay for Flutter repair/upgrades.

Pringer X · **Reply #67 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:20:01 AM

ah. It's been awhile since I played 2 in English (I was still in middle school when i got it), so I forgot. Still, doesn't it seem stupid to sell the very weapons and crap you got in the first game, if you're going to turn back around and remake them anyway? Weren't there several weapons that were in both games, like the Homing Missile and the supah laser?

Bag of Magic Food · **Reply #68 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:20:30 AM

Lan sold all his battle chips to buy MORE LIFE PRESERVERS

Align · **Reply #69 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:22:04 AM

Quote from: Pringer X on July 20, 2009, 01:20:01 AM

Still, doesn't it seem stupid to sell the very weapons and crap you got in the first game, if you're going to turn back around and remake them anyway?

I suppose she figured "If I can remake them shortly then it's OK to get rid of them now, plus if I don't we're never getting off this hole"

Gotham Ranger · **Reply #70 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:31:26 AM

If I can be a buzz kill here, I don't understand why people try and figure this out when they know the reason. Some things just happen in games because thats the way it is. If you retained every armor from X1, there'd be no point in X2's armor. If you retained every weapon from X1, you'd have 64 different weapons by the time of X8. Its not chocked up to logic, its game play mechanics. The fun in playing these games is collecting the new weapons, getting the heart pieces, finding the armor capsules. Yeah, it is nifty when its explained, such as in Metroid Prime 1 where Samus is trying to escape the exploding space ship in the beginning and for some daffy reason she turns to WATCH AN EXPLOSION COMING AT HER, but hey, now you have a reason to collect everything.

Sorry, I just needed to get this off my chest. I know its fun to try and figure out explanations and all, but come on.

Pringer X · **Reply #71 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:39:33 AM

Quote from: Bag of Magic Food on July 20, 2009, 01:20:30 AM

Lan sold all his battle chips to buy MORE LIFE PRESERVERS

an actual argument that could be made though, is that every new generation of PETs (which seems like they made 6-7 of them INSIDE A YEAR) would have data that the previous generation of chips couldn't handle or whatever. It'd be kinda like how there are programs that work for XP that don't work well on Vista, and you're essentially repeating the whole thing several times over. Same thing with Star Force. Though, there STILL is the problem of why the hell they release a new freakin' model of the damn things about 2 months later or so. I don't think Lan changed grades at any point, except maybe the very end.

Quote from: GothamAnswer on July 20, 2009, 01:31:26 AM

If I can be a buzz kill here, I don't understand why people try and figure this out when they know the reason. Some things just happen in games because thats the way it is. If you retained every armor from X1, there'd be no point in X2's armor. If you retained every weapon from X1, you'd have 64 different weapons by the time of X8. Its not chocked up to logic, its game play mechanics. The fun in playing these games is collecting the new weapons, getting the heart pieces, finding the armor capsules. Yeah, it is nifty when its explained, such as in Metroid Prime 1 where Samus is trying to escape the exploding space ship in the beginning and for some daffy reason she turns to WATCH AN EXPLOSION COMING AT HER, but hey, now you have a reason to collect everything.

Sorry, I just needed to get this off my chest. I know its fun to try and figure out explanations and all, but come on.

It is just for fun and whatnot, and without these kinds of discussions on this board, it'd be pretty barren all around except in certain parts. It's also interesting to find out what exactly is canon and how the creators managed to get out of the hole they dug for years and years

Bag of Magic Food · **Reply #72 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:11:59 AM

Quote from: GothamAnswer on July 20, 2009, 01:31:26 AM

If you retained every weapon from X1, you'd have 64 different weapons by the time of X8.

Would that be such a bad thing?

Fxeni · **Reply #73 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:23:42 AM

Quote from: Bag of Magic Food on July 20, 2009, 03:11:59 AM

Would that be such a bad thing?

It would get to the point that people would only use weapons from the earlier games, defeating the purpose of the later weapons.

Flame · **Reply #74 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:25:38 AM

Quote from: GothamAnswer on July 20, 2009, 01:31:26 AM

If I can be a buzz kill here, I don't understand why people try and figure this out when they know the reason. Some things just happen in games because thats the way it is. If you retained every armor from X1, there'd be no point in X2's armor. If you retained every weapon from X1, you'd have 64 different weapons by the time of X8. Its not chocked up to logic, its game play mechanics. The fun in playing these games is collecting the new weapons, getting the heart pieces, finding the armor capsules. Yeah, it is nifty when its explained, such as in Metroid Prime 1 where Samus is trying to escape the exploding space ship in the beginning and for some daffy reason she turns to WATCH AN EXPLOSION COMING AT HER, but hey, now you have a reason to collect everything.

Sorry, I just needed to get this off my chest. I know its fun to try and figure out explanations and all, but come on.

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