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Reply #475 on: December 29, 2009, 05:06:29 AM
* Their recommended order (and Capcom's) is Cut, Guts, Elec, Ice, Fire, and Bomb.
...for what possible reason would one NOT switch Guts and Cut in that order?  

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* Suggested order is Air, Metal, Bubble, Heat, Wood, Crash, Flash, and Quick. Sounds about right.
Sounds nowhere NEAR right to me, but then MM2's weakness cycle is pretty wonky.  Nevertheless, I do Air, Crash, Flash, Quick, Metal, Bubble, Heat, Wood.

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* Suggested order is Top, Shadow, Spark, Magnet, Hard, Gemini, Needle, and Snake.
At least the weapon effects make sense this time.  But IMHO anyone who tackles Gemini first out of the final three is out of their [tornado fang]ing mind.  He's the toughest of the eight to buster-only.  I start with Needle; assuming he doesn't land on top of you his attacks aren't too tricky, and his stage has a free E-Tank just in case.

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Oh man, THAT brings back memories.  Rock Monster, the Quick Man beams that don't exist, fun stuff there.  They also backed the whole Break Man training idea, too.

And they're also oblivious to Top Spin on Gamma, IIRC, claiming that only Search Snake works.  Funny thing is my brother tipped me off about Top Spin before we ever got that book.  Didn't know Search Snake worked before then.

For that matter, I don't think they cover weakness weapons on ANY of MM3's fortress bosses.  I didn't even know about Search Snake on MM3's clones until last console generation.  And all they tell you about Rock Monster/Yellow Devil is that you don't have Elec/Thunder Beam (and they referenced it in MM1 without referencing the pause trick).

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Reply #476 on: December 29, 2009, 05:19:36 AM
But IMHO anyone who tackles Gemini first (...) is out of their [tornado fang]ing mind.

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You could go for Snake, if you use Shadow Blade. Then you can go for Gemini and Needle in that order. ^^

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Reply #477 on: December 29, 2009, 05:22:05 AM
Well, that video was humiliating to watch.  Hats off to ye, Vix.

I shouldn't talk anyway.  I know Zan thinks I'm nuts for choosing Needle.  And out of the remaining five I do Shadow first.  Even though Top is the obvious intended, I just like saving him for last.

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Reply #478 on: December 29, 2009, 05:59:26 AM
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Sounds nowhere NEAR right to me, but then MM2's weakness cycle is pretty wonky.  Nevertheless, I do Air, Crash, Flash, Quick, Metal, Bubble, Heat, Wood.

It's been so long since I've played MM2 that I completely forgot. ^^;


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Reply #479 on: December 29, 2009, 06:03:43 AM
I know Zan thinks I'm nuts for choosing Needle. 

No secret as to why you choose Needle first.



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Reply #480 on: December 29, 2009, 06:12:38 AM
I know Zan thinks I'm nuts for choosing Needle.

I beat Needle Man first, with the buster, so I could unlock Power Battle in MMAC~ :3 </wii>

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Reply #481 on: December 29, 2009, 08:18:17 AM
You're nuts for choosing ShadowMan OR NeedleMan first, Hypershell!



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Reply #482 on: December 29, 2009, 03:51:49 PM
I once started with Hard Man...the first time I´ve played MM3...I got PWND beyond believe


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Reply #483 on: December 29, 2009, 04:08:55 PM
I once started with Hard Man...the first time I´ve played MM3...I got PWND beyond believe

Well, what did you expect? He is called Hard Man, after all. >U<

Nonetheless, I usually play it "safe" by following the recommended weakness order, in MM games. Once I get better, I may blast RMs in a random order.



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Reply #484 on: December 29, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
Same here.

Well, that plan failed. >.> Not only did I forget that KWP doesn't seem to have a "Links" page, but Google didn't help much, either.

So, getting off that subject--I noticed a couple of recurring things about the "old days", like incredibly pimped-out fan Reploids and Roll fanboyism (not sure how widespread that was, or if my memory was tainted by NAdM). Anyone got anything else?



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Reply #485 on: December 29, 2009, 08:06:07 PM
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I know Zan thinks I'm nuts for choosing Needle.

I much prefer beating up Snake first.



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Reply #486 on: January 05, 2010, 09:48:43 PM
I remember a theory from the website that is now called Planet Megaman, that Iris would return all grown up in X5 and take Sigma's side to try to get Zero change sides.

Then there was that theory that Zero was created evil, uploaded a new memory and would turn on X when the time was right, which was proposed by the same guy that thought that Bass's memory was put into Vile.

Lets not forget the theory that Axl and Red were the same person split into two beings back when people thought that Red had the same copy ability as Axl.

I once thought the Cartoon was canon

I also thought at one time that Megaman Juno created the Reverbots.



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Reply #487 on: January 05, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
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I remember a theory from the website that is now called Planet Megaman, that Iris would return all grown up in X5 and take Sigma's side to try to get Zero change sides.

I thought she was grown up in X4. :/

While the one about Red and Axl is interesting, it'd just be a retread of Colonel and Iris, except offing one doesn't explode the other's brain.



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Reply #488 on: January 05, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
I thought she was grown up in X4. :/

While the one about Red and Axl is interesting, it'd just be a retread of Colonel and Iris, except offing one doesn't explode the other's brain.
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Offing Colonel had nothing to do with Iris. Your thinking Middy and Techno. Who both shared a CPU, and thus both died when the other did.
What happened, Iris went nuts out of grief that her brother had been killed by her lover is what happened. Not that her brain malfunctioned because of Colonel's death.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #489 on: January 05, 2010, 10:08:57 PM
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What happened, Iris went nuts out of grief that her brother had been killed by her lover is what happened. Not that her brain malfunctioned because of Colonel's death.

I didn't mean it literally.



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Reply #490 on: January 05, 2010, 10:13:57 PM
Should have used a better analogy then...
And for the sake of argument- If Red and Axl were one split in two or any of that... Who's to say that one WOULDNT go Iris at the other's death? Axl and Red were pretty close.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #491 on: January 05, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
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What happened, Iris went nuts out of grief that her brother had been killed by her lover is what happened. Not that her brain malfunctioned because of Colonel's death.

I believe you're forgetting something. She inserted Colonel's CPU, Ultimate Soldier and all that.



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Reply #492 on: January 05, 2010, 11:35:28 PM
Yeah, but because she installed it. (lol, I forgot that part)

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #493 on: January 06, 2010, 12:44:42 AM
Well, brain exploding still stands.  Just in a more indirect way.  As expected Iris's system rejected Colonel's components, so she was pretty much toast then (as I am always obligated to point out, you can beat Iris in X4 without ever touching her).

Then there was that theory that Zero was created evil, uploaded a new memory and would turn on X when the time was right, which was proposed by the same guy that thought that Bass's memory was put into Vile.
The opportunity for that already existed in X5.  No reason for Awakened Zero to be announcing his intentions if he's content to stab X in the back.

I thought she was grown up in X4. :/
Safe bet that she is.  Sensei specifically notes trying to make her look younger for Xtreme2 in the MMXOCW commentary.

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Reply #494 on: February 02, 2010, 10:50:08 PM
Im sorry! Im sorry! Im sorry!

But I just remembered an old fanon theory and just had to post it! (forgive me for necroing!)

I recall hearing once that Weil was Cain gone bad.
it was like this.
As Cain got older he eventually needed brain implants or something, and his implants caught the virus, and thus he went evil. I always thought that was the funniest [parasitic bomb] ever.

Also, I never delivered on that Command mission strategy guide scans. Ill post them later today, promise.

Posted on: February 02, 2010, 02:51:40 AM
Alright, here are the scans for the opening little thing done by Bradygames.


which is of questionable Canonity. It would fit if it was, but I dont think it counts.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #495 on: February 02, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
BradyGames is also responsible for the atrocious FF9 Official Strategy guide, so yeah...

Also, that doesn't make much sense. Also, the CM instruction booklet has Redips spelled two different ways.

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Reply #496 on: February 02, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
because Capcom US is very oh so clever, and tried to dissociate Spider and Redips by spelling Redips as "Rideps" (in japanese, they have different katakana so its not the same as simply reading it backwards or something)
I dont see how it doesnt make sense. X and Zero are not of the eastern Hunters, but the Western Hunters. Redips is in charge of the eastern like Signas is in the Western

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #497 on: February 02, 2010, 11:30:20 PM
I was mainly just babbling. Still, it says Redips and Rideps in the book. It comes off as "TYPO" not "OH MY GOD HOW CLEVER!"

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Reply #498 on: February 03, 2010, 01:41:09 AM
I recall hearing once that Weil was Cain gone bad.
it was like this.
As Cain got older he eventually needed brain implants or something, and his implants caught the virus, and thus he went evil. I always thought that was the funniest [parasitic bomb] ever.
Ah, I remembered posting that before the great reset. XD


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Reply #499 on: February 03, 2010, 01:45:06 AM
I was mainly just babbling. Still, it says Redips and Rideps in the book. It comes off as "TYPO" not "OH MY GOD HOW CLEVER!"
Yet Cappy clearly did it on purpose.

"Hey, smart players might figure out Spider is Redips backwards just from the manual! Oh, I know! Lets switch the I and the E! No one will be the wiser!!"

They thought they were being clever by doing it. whereas that wasnt clever at all, but stupid.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.