Pokemon Generation VII: Sun/Moon/Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon *Leaks/Spoilers ahead!*

[Dr. Wily II]

HELLO TRAINER
WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF POKEMON

Ahem, so leaks have started to circulating, and well, I guess it's time to officially christened the Generation VII thread. From now on, ALL new news/leaks/whatever about Sun/Moon will be posted/discussed here. The Gen6 thread will be left for purely the Gen6 games.

SO AS I WAS SAYING

Leaks have started appearing, seemingly showing the protags, the Starters, and the cover Legendaries.

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The STARTERS

LOOK AT THE GRASS KID
LOOK AT THE FIRE CUB
LOOK AT THE WATER BASILISK

Protags and Cover Legendaries

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SPECULATE AWAY

UPDATE AS AT 10 MAY 2016

WELCOME BACK DEAR TRAINER

So the Pokemon Company has officially revealed new footage for Sun/Moon.
Promotional videos:
[yt]https://youtu.be/Kn25hijDL7c[/yt]

[yt]https://youtu.be/2r0_F-_ClcQ[/yt]


WELCOME TO THE ALOLA REGION
The setting for Gen7. A person named Hala will let you choose your Starter Pokemon (appears in both videos). Perhaps he is this region's Professor?


CHOOSE YOUR STARTER:
Grass/Flying Rowlet
It knows a new Grass-type move, Leafage (most likely shown in the first video).


Fire Litten


Water Popplio


Boxart, with the respective Cover Legendaries

[Quickman]

I like the Water starter.  Might go with that.  Grabbing the male protag and naming him Sue. 

And I'm getting an Alpine vibe off of these guys.

[Dr. Wily II]

I like the Grass one myself. SO CUDDLY

And yea, the region is in the background in the first pic... And indeed it seems to be contained within mountaion ranges.

Also... They mentioned the Kalos Starters.
... Perhaps, a repeat of Kalos, with 2 Starters?

[ViperAcidZX]

The player characters seem older than the previous generations (about 17-19-years-old) too. I wonder which part of the world Gen VII is gonna take place. The fire starter sorta of looks like a koala considering we already have a grizzly, panda, and polar bear.
I'm gonna name it Nom-Nom.

[Quickman]

Oooh, yeah, looking at them again, they do have an Aussie vibe.  That would make sense with the croc, too.  Maybe we'll have a region Down Under?

[Dr. Wily II]

To be honest... Still looks like a generic bear cub for now.

Speculation is strong that this region is based on Hawaii, second is Spain. And some even said Singapore because of the hotel's resemblance to our Raffles hotel.


VS

[Sakura Leic]

Kind of odd how we got a goat grass starter with Gogoat from the previous generation but I'm not complaining.   Also seems the Fire type Chinese Zodiac cycle has been broken since there are no bears right?  Lizard Water Starter is interesting, however I'm torn with the grass and fire starter.  I'll have to wait until I see other grass and fire types before commiting to one.

I love how the trainers look, though it seems like Moon Moon is not the Legendary for Moon.

[Dr. Wily II]

Yea, no bears in the Chinese Zodiac.

Then again, there wasn't any foxes in there indeed.

[Sakura Leic]

We took that as the dog in the Zodiac like we took Cyndaquil as the rat.

[Dr. Wily II]

LIES

LIES AND SLANDER

[Quickman]

Lies because fox, flaming hedgehog, and salamander.

[Sakura Leic]

Yeah like I said Cyndaquil was already a stretch.

But yeah since Foxes are related to dogs that's why people saw Fennekin as the Dog of the Chinese Zodiac Fire Starters.

Lies because fox, flaming hedgehog, and salamander.

Charmander was the Dragon to that theory.  Also Cyndaquil is more Echinda and Shrew like and eventually gets Badger like as they eveolve.......oh my god Pyre Heart has 4 dicks.

[Quickman]

Four-headed dick.

And Charmander was based off of the Greek salamander.  Those were born of fire.  They weren't dragons.

[Sakura Leic]

Yeah but people ignored that when they started seeing the 'trend'.  Besides Charizard is sure as hell dragon like Salamander origins or no, so is it any wonder why they would think dragons?

[Quickman]

And eleven posts in and we're talking about dicks. New record?

[Sakura Leic]

PB would be proud.  Related to that thought if we get a Mega Castform would it be more phallic?  In the 2D games they look like boobs while in 3D games they look like sentient truck nuts.

[Sakura Leic]

http://kotaku.com/new-pokemon-game-new-fake-magazine-scans-1764243068

You guys might want to be a bit more wary just in case the scans are fake, especially remembering the fake Gen 5 scans with similar fake starters.

To be honest the Grass goat, again strange since we had Gogoat the previous gen, was what really made me suspicious before I saw this, but we'll see.

[Dr. Wily II]

Hence I sorta have the disclaimer to speculate.

I never said they are confirmed, but darn if they are.

Either way, CoroCoro scans will be out soonish, I think. Might as well have a thread ready.

[Sakura Leic]

Yeah I know, hench why I said we'll see if there is a grain of truth in this.

Still hoping for a Wolf Legendary for Moon so I can name them Moon Moon. 

[Dr. Wily II]

That, and we have dicks 11 posts in. WOOT

[Sakura Leic]

Yeah, anyway so far the Corocoro leaks so far have info on Volcanion so I imagine if there is Sun and Moon info it will be brief.

[Strider Xhaiden]

This looks....kinda interesting, but I personally can't help but feel some of the magic dies with every new gen.

I mean, they could at least give us the option of doing things a little differently this time around. I spent most of my time on X feeling like I was being railroaded into things instead of discovering them.

[Sakura Leic]

Yeah while I didn't feel it as bad as Black and White the railroading was a bit much even then. 

I also really hope Sun and Moon gets better pacing compared to X and Y, the gap between the 1 and second gym was ridiculous and the Team Flare plot at the end just fell apart.  Seriously 2 dungeons at the end of the Flare plot back to back, what the hell was the point?  We should have just went to Geosenge at the end and do the Lumiose base after taking on Clemont or hell maybe even during the part when we were fixing the Power Plant.  That would fix half the pacing issues at least. 

But yeah I would like to explore more, I mean I know it's never going to be as open as Gens 1 and 2 but I would at least like a Sinnoh like game in terms of exploring/railroading.  I mean as cool as choosing what gym to do next was in terms of Saffron/Fushia and Olivine and Cianwood/Mahogany I prefer having actual gym progression in strength than sweeping the other because certain gyms have certain similar levels due to non linearity. 

Or if they had something like that the Gym Leaders would scale and become harder depending on if you took one first over the other.  That would have been great.

Also for the love of god less friends and a better rival would be nice.  I like Shauna, but Trevor and especially freaking Tierno were pretty pointless, especially since we only battled each twice.  We could have had more Shauna battles instead of a boss gauntlet at the end, I mean I would have loved that. Hell none of them even had a full team, at the end they each only had 3 Pokemon, that's just ridiculous!

But Calem and Serena were just boring, I mean being aloof was kind of okay, but it wasn't executed that well.  Characterization was all over the place, they were just boring 'Ace' and 'Leader' characters that didn't really do much to earn that beside from the fact that the new chacters just moved to Kalos, so by default they would be that 'Leader'.

I don't mind not having a jerk rival like Blue and Silver, and I actually like Brendan/May and Wally, especially the ORAS versions, Barry, Cheren, Bianca, arguably N, and Hugh because they were good characters and each of them had amazing growth as characters, though I felt Cheren's could had had better writing and execution because he just felt odd to me, but it could be that I like Bianca and N better.  But Serena/Calem were easily the worst rivals ever.

I mean X and Y, and Gen 6 overall, did a lot of amazing and awesome things, but it also did some pretty lackluster things too in many areas.  I mean it's not as bad as my least favorites like the Kanto games, Gen 2 Johto, and certain parts of Sinnoh, but it is middle of the road in terms of good and bad.

Sorry for the rant, especially since I'm pretty sure I already said a lot of this before.

[Protoman Blues]

Did someone mention [ray splasher]s?? 

Also, are those scans real?

[Sakura Leic]

Most likely not due to various reasons pointed out in the Kotaku article and the comments including the protags not matching the artstyle of previous protags, protags having the exact same hat (even Hilbert and Hilda had different colored hats) the grass goat Pokemon despite Gogoat existing and being a previous Gen Pokemon, the Croc being to like Totodile and the Sandile family, and the Japanese inconsistencies for Corocoro.

It always happens when they don't reveal the starters right away like X and Y.  So yeah it's a false alarm, lets see if the real Fire Starter still falls into the Chinese Zodiac 'theme' theory.  I mean even with the inconsistencies of the theory it's one hell of coincidence that the Fire Starters still fall into that theme even if it isn't exact.