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Waifu · **on:** September 16, 2011, 11:09:19 PM

For Star Wars haters....I mean fans, the blu ray is out.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44491069?GT1=43001

Bueno Excelente · **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2011, 11:28:11 PM

Might as well be me posting these:

To those who don't know, these are the new changes good ol' Uncle Lucas made to our beloved films.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0EUjobdavw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&src_vid=J0EUjobdavw&v=27RVJJfny4I&annotation_id=annotation_900451[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_916826&v=RnLgh3dudSk&feature=iv&src_vid=27RVJJfny4I[/youtube]

There's also a clip of Sebulba (or someone like him I dunno) in Jabba's Palace, and a few changes with the prequel trilogy, but who cares, really?

Acid · **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:53:10 AM

This contains all six movies, right?

In the latest "updated" version, right?

Bueno Excelente · **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2011, 01:11:48 AM

I've seen two packs on sale, one with each trilogy, each costing about 45 euros.

Quickman · **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2011, 03:56:34 AM

I know of the changes and I have no intention of buying the BluRays simply because I don't have a BluRay player. Hell, most of Wookieepedia are vehemently opposed to the changes. A few are buying the BluRays because we need screenshots and whatever information the extra features may hold, and if I had a BluRay player and an extra $80 to burn, I would consider buying them for that purpose, too.

I'm happy with my stereo-sound half-assed release of the theatrical versions.

Gaia · Quote from: Gaia on May 07, 2010, 12:30:32 AM

Eh, pass. I already have them all already and I'm quuuiiite happy with my unaltered films (Well, maybe except Jedi, but that was INTENTIONAL, he wanted to do that since the conception of the scene, and the DVD version of A New Hope and Empire is just well, the DVD versions of the special edition anyway).

George, if you need money so badly, why put it to good use and fix yer carazeh neck?

Quickman · **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:18:23 AM

You know how much of a killing he would make if he would just give us nice unaltered releases? Fans are clamoring for it, give the fans what they want instead of having a love affair with AfterEffects!

Gaia · Quote from: Gaia on May 07, 2010, 12:30:32 AM

Bah, you have no idea. I stopped Star-Wars re-release purchases after the DVDs. I'm not getting them on blu-ray since he practically, anally raped the origional trilogy.

Speaking of which, I'd like to know if there was ever a re-release, George would INSIST raping the Family Guy parody trilogy. Just you bet.

Begun, the fan wars has.

Quickman · **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2011, 05:25:19 AM

One of these days, some fan is gonna be pushed too far and they'll go ballistic.

As for the Family Guy or Robot Chicken parodies; Lucas wouldn't touch those. No, he's too content with reworking his own stuff over and over to meet this so-called "original vision" that he claims he has (which, he does not. He's pulling [parasitic bomb] out of his ass now). He'd much rather replace all the model and puppetry and good, tangible special effects with CGI, and add Vader's "NOOOOO!" to the ending of RotJ for whatever ass-[tornado fang] reason.

Phi · **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2011, 05:34:00 AM

Quote from: Quickman on September 17, 2011, 05:25:19 AM

He'd much rather replace all the model and puppetry and good, tangible special effects with CGI, and add Vader's "NOOOOO!" to the ending of RotJ for whatever ass-[tornado fang] reason.

Is that only the blu-ray alteration? Maybe I could just stick with the DVDs, but at the same time, I do want to see the picture quality remastered.

Quickman · **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2011, 05:41:45 AM

No, there's a ton of other piddly changes, most of which were already described above. Such as the pointless Dug in Jabba's palace, complete with lousy pan-and-scan, some rocks added to Artoo's hiding place in ANH for whatever pointless reason (we'll ignore how the [tornado fang] he was able to get INTO that crevice), more tweaks to the Han and Greedo scene, tweaks to Obi-Wan's krayt dragon yell, the list goes on and on and on and on...

People are more up in arms about the "NOOOOO" added to when Vader chucked Palpatine down the shaft.

slayer · **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2011, 05:44:28 AM

oh boy...another chapter in the eternal war...who shot first? han or grido??!

Quickman · **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2011, 05:46:38 AM

According to the BluRay tweak, it's the same exact time.

Phi · **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2011, 05:57:04 AM

Holy hell. I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but hearing all of this gets me irritated. Lucas must be on some Hollywood pot.

Gaia · Quote from: Gaia on May 07, 2010, 12:30:32 AM

Quote from: Quickman on September 17, 2011, 05:46:38 AM

According to the BluRay tweak, it's the same exact time.

NOW THEY SHOOT AT THE SAME TIME!? ILLOGICAL. Han Shot First, so there. Also, Little R2 was able to squeeze through the original hole by his incredible hoverjets and carefully maneuvering himself into the crevice.

Quote from: Archetype on September 17, 2011, 05:57:04 AM

Holy hell. I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but hearing all of this gets me irritated. Lucas must be on some Hollywood pot.

Not just Lucas, almost everyone else does some kind a drug in that shady business..

Protoman Blues · **Reply #15 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:15:30 AM

Lucas can go [tornado fang] himself.

Reaperoid · **Reply #16 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:40:06 AM

I still haven't seen the changes from the DVD Special Edition (last I watched original trilogy was the VHS Trilogy box), so I don't think I'm in any hurry.

Gaia · Quote from: Gaia on May 07, 2010, 12:30:32 AM

Just a minor change in Jedi's ending on the DVD is that Anikin's actor is replaced with Hayden Christensen for when his force ghost appears.

Well, for me that is. It's so minor it's barely noticeable. $:\$

Reaperoid · **Reply #18 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:48:29 AM

Sounds... reasonable, I guess

Flame · **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:49:56 AM

George Lucas and his never ending battle with the Star Wars details...
more changes? I wonder how many times hes going to keep doing these... (dont answer that, it was rhetorical)

In other news; Steven Spielberg apologized for changes he himself made to ET, when he replaced Govt. Agent guns with walkie talkies. And almost sorta admitted Crystal Skull sucked.

Like a polar opposite of Lucas now almost. One makes constant changes, one apologized for them. One thought crystal skull was a good Idea, the other seems to have some feelings about it and was resistant about Lucas' ideas for it.

Thing is, Lucas really doesnt care much about the criticism he gets on Star Wars. He just calls it his vision and keeps rolling, "not surprised" at some of the receptions.

Protoman Blues · **Reply #20 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:51:34 AM

It's really amazing how sickening I find these changes. More and more I really question just how much Lucas actually had to do with making the original trilogy any good, because with the prequels plus all these little tweaks and [parasitic bomb], it's painfully obvious that he doesn't know how to tell a story. Character Arcs? Unnecessary! Connecting Plots? Pointless! Conveying meaning without saying a word? Pfffft, [tornado fang] that noise! Like Pinkett said when discussing the opening of the original movie, it's so brilliant that I truly believe Lucas had nothing to do with it and fought against its inclusion in the movie.

What's truly disgusting is that he really believes he is doing you a favor with these changes. Otherwise, the original original movies would be released. Releasing the originals would only get him more money, so there's no reason not to do it other than the fact that they are not the, and I say this while laughing, "story" HE wants to tell.

Quote from: Flame on September 17, 2011, 06:49:56 AM

Thing is, Lucas really doesnt care much about the criticism he gets on Star Wars. He just calls it his vision and keeps rolling, "not surprised" at some of the receptions.

Would you really care if the majority of people critiquing your work still bought it in droves?

Flame · **Reply #21 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:53:37 AM

Yeah. Probably not.

Also, the inclusion of NOOOOO in the Vader redemption scene kills me. The original was so damn intense, I mean, Vader doesnt even have a [tornado fang]ing FACE, its just a still mask, but you could STILL see emotion and turmoil within him, and the "DONT TOUCH MY [tornado fang]ing SON" written all over him when he tossed Palpatine.

THAT was good storytelling. When you dont need to say a word or really even show expression to tell the tale.

The Great Gonzo · **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:58:28 AM

You know, if Lucas is going to change every little thing about Star Wars, he should go back and make The Phantom Menace into a decent movie. I don't think too many fans would mind that (at least, I hope).

Flame · **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:59:38 AM

He probably feels they are perfect as is.

After all, they pretty much sort of started his "vision" of how to "improve" Star Wars. He felt Star Wars needed a prequel story. One that tells of how Vader became Vader. so its like, "Ok,... Its not really necessary, we already know all there needs to be known about him, and the mystery about what we dnt know only fuels the imagination, but ok, ill roll with it."

Then we get the prequels... And its like "what..."

Gaia · Quote from: Gaia on May 07, 2010, 12:30:32 AM

Quote from: Flame on September 17, 2011, 06:49:56 AM

And almost sorta admitted Crystal Skull sucked.

Though, the Fridge scene was a so bad it's good moment for me. Sure, the 'Cheif can carry 5 guns but can he survive a nuke in a fridge? Harrison's indestructable, he was able to resist being frozen to death in carbonite, and he's able to survive a nuke in a [tornado fang]ing fridge. He's a real badass there. $:\$

Quote from: Protoman Booty on September 17, 2011, 06:51:34 AM

I Character Arcs? Unnecessary! Connecting Plots? Pointless! Conveying meaning without saying a word? Pfffft, [tornado fang] that noise!

Yeesh, now I can completely say that Star Wars has become a shonen (or soujo, depends on one's viewpoint) anime. It used to be GOOD, but over the years it became so bad that it makes a pile of [parasitic bomb] cry bricks.

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Star Wars Blu Ray is out!