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Sakura Leic · **on:** July 05, 2011, 01:34:52 AM

Basicially what is going on is that a bill was proposed to the US congress to stop and take down any videos that violates copy right laws. This bill was made for movie the movie industry so that people can't watch full movies for free on You Tube and such. However the way the bill is worded affects all media they think is copy righted and will take down any of it unless they have promission from the owner.

Now I think that's messed up because first of all while I agree that movies are deffinitly harmed by this, video games aren't. Second if this does happen a good portion of internet videos will be deleted and inorder to be able to post playthoughs of games they would have to send a message to the person who owns it to do the video and chances are they won't notice. Third is that the video game companies only own the program that makes the game not the experience of playing the game and sharing that experience with the pubilc. Fourth this means the end of video reviews from other

If this bill gets passed Luiz Prower's, Cloud 8745's, chuggaaconroy's, BradRy2's, The Angry Video Game Nerd's, Irategamer's, ProtonJonSA's, AzureBlade49, ClementJ642's, maybe even Vixy's videos and many more will be deleted.

This also effects karaoke videos which is, and as much as I hate to say it, how Justin Beiber got famous. Not you may not care about that but it'll definitly affect people who posts karaoke videos and possibly people who made video game karaoke videos like BrentalFloss and PB since they did have video game material in their video's.

Now the good news is that it just got proposed on June 20th meaning that it's a long way from being debated. Chances are it may not get passed at all or someone will actually read the wording of it. But that doesn't mean we should ignore this and brush it off.

If you need more details and, if you're in the US a way for your voices to be heard, watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hytigOSjJxc&feature=feedf

And just when me and a friend of mine started doing our first playthough.

Satoryu · **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:01:27 AM

The bill would do more than just take the video down. If you have 10 offences within a 180 day period, you would get jail time.

Here is another point of reference, an opinion piece written by a lawyer who specializes in the entertainment industries.

The thing is the way the bill is worded is incredibly vague. It would need to be more specific to pass. And even so, this probably won't affect people who stream video game footage all that much. Stuff like that would fall under fair use. Hell, some game developers like Capcom actually support streams. Shutting down fighting game tournaments and the like would actually be a detriment to Capcom. Not to mention it would be very bizarro if you get jailed for putting videos of 3rd Strike Online Edition on Youtube using the in-game feature that uploads those videos directly.

Sakura Leic · **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:14:17 AM

Yeah forgot to mention a lot of things but I'm just reporting it. I honestly don't expect to be approve the way it's worded either, especially with the gate of mass fan boy hate the guy in the video just opened up. Still I am going to send my two cents anyway just to feel important.

Gaia · **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:50:23 AM

And it would also affect Vloger's accounts, such as Clement, Orkimedes, Wayforward as well (since they happen to use official sources for their videos). I still think that the government saw green in their eyes when they thought of this up.

Phi · **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:00:17 AM

I don't know much about political enforcement and whatnot. But this sounds, like Sato said, incredibly vague. The guy in the video stated everything perfectly, and i can't see half of the people who upload copyrighted footage regularly obey this law. Phenomenally huge companies like Facebook and Twitter would get hit pretty badly. I mean, they ENCOURAGE video sharing with friends and the world. That's why they became so popular in the first place, taking that away would be stripping them at the foundation considerably. And i could only imagine them fighting back - and winning.

This whole thing sounds like a method of scaring people, and they're doing a terrible job.

Krystal · **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:10:54 AM

Now that bill's just silly. Why is America so silly. Let's hope there are unsilly people there that realise how silly this is =w=a

Even from a political standpoint it's silly. How do you even enforce something like that?

The Great Gonzo · **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:17:41 AM

Five years for streaming too many videos with copyrighted stuff in it. BULL-[tornado fang]ing-[parasitic bomb].

I dunno how they'll enforce this, either, but still. I know that at least one of my sisters has a YouTube account--I'd hate for her to get thrown in the slammer for five years because ten or more of her videos had copyrighted stuff in it, no matter how briefly.

Jesus, when will the old media just take some time to learn about new media instead of condemning everyone who uses it?

ViperAcidZX · **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:43:05 AM

Quote from: The Great Gonzo on July 05, 2011, 03:17:41 AM

Five years for streaming too many videos with copyrighted stuff in it. BULL-[tornado fang]ing-[parasitic bomb].

I dunno how they'll enforce this, either, but still. I know that at least one of my sisters has a YouTube account--I'd hate for her to get thrown in the slammer for five years because ten or more of her videos had copyrighted stuff in it, no matter how briefly.

Jesus, when will the old media just take some time to learn about new media instead of condemning everyone who uses it?

Exactly.

Quote from: Sato on July 05, 2011, 02:01:27 AM

The bill would do more than just take the video down. If you have 10 offences within a 180 day period, you would get jail time.

*paranoid*

The Great Gonzo · **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2011, 05:37:46 AM

Well, I told Dad about it; he said that it'll get shut down quickly. Still...

IQ-0 · **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2011, 06:02:25 AM

I know game companies are being a [sonic slicer] about uploading newer games on YT but classic games are safest bet.

Slash Man · **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2011, 07:02:39 AM

I can see where they're coming from. But YouTube's current policy pretty much takes down whatever's unacceptable, so I don't see what the big deal is. Full movies I can understand. But reviews are a completely different thing. Seriously, they'd be so greedy that you can't even see it? Either way, it's publicity for them.

But jail time is absolute bullshit. Sure, take the video down, but why punish kids? Like it's been said, it's very vague, so who knows what we COULD post...

Hiryu · **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2011, 06:26:03 PM

The bill kinda seems redundant anyway, it's just that the police can't or don't try to adequately enforce it probably because of the overwhelming amount of material. And if they can't enforce what they have now, what makes them think that they'll be able to enforce this?

The 10 strikes thing seems silly. That means I can upload 9 copyrighted videos without consequences. That's about enough for a whole movie if I were to upload it to youtube.

This bill is in the early stages, so don't expect it to be passed like this. Though what we need to do is to send someone who represents the video game community so that our voice can be heard and be fairly represented.

Rin · **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:40:14 PM

Quote from: Krystal on July 05, 2011, 03:10:54 AM

Now that bill's just silly. Why is America so silly. Let's hope there are unsilly people there that realise how silly this is =w=a

Even from a political standpoint it's silly. How do you even enforce something like that?

Pretty much this. Just replace "silly" with "[tornado fang]ing RETARDED". In Caps.

Waifu · **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:49:31 PM

oh crap, I am [tornado fang]ed.

Mirby · **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:37:15 PM

Quote from: Krystal on July 05, 2011, 03:10:54 AM

Now that bill's just silly. Why is America so silly. Let's hope there are unsilly people there that realise how silly this is =w=a

Even from a political standpoint it's silly. How do you even enforce something like that?

replace silly with foolish and you've got a post worthy of Franziska von Karma.

Also, this bill is just [expletive deleted].