What does Hideki Kamiya know about Rockman DASH?

[The Great Gonzo]

Agreed.

Though, a Megaman FPS would have to be a side-game. There's a lot to go wrong with arbitrarily changing genres.

[Acid]

Though, a Megaman FPS would have to be a side-game.

Well either spin-off a la BN and SF, or if they HAVE to tie it in, put it in the big gap between ZX and Legends.

[Protoman Blues]

Please don't kill me guys...

I think Mega Man would work well as an FPS. Pinpoint shooting and dodging? 

Okay, now that I'm home, allow me to comment on this. I am a pretty big FPS fan. Now while I really do think that a FPS MegaMan would be awesome, I don't really think it'd be suited for the Legends series so much.  Now, I'm not a Legends expert, as I have yet to finish the first game or start the second, due to...well life really, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. However, based upon my experience of playing it, as well as watching our beloved Vixy play through the game, Legends seems more like a Zelda-ish type adventure game to me, more so than a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person shooter.  A 5th person shooter is RIGHT out! If anything, I'd rather see the Legends series lean more towards have a Wii type control scheme, with Wind Waker-ish type graphics, to more fit its style.

If they were to do a FPS type MegaMan game, I'd rather it be its own separate series, so to speak. Hell, I'm still waiting for my Giant Mech style MegaMan game. Of course, that's most likely just my ZOE3 longing leeching over to my Megalust.

[AquaTeamV3]

Now while I really do think that a FPS MegaMan would be awesome, I don't really think it'd be suited for the Legends series so much.  Now, I'm not a Legends expert, as I have yet to finish the first game or start the second, due to...well life really, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. However, based upon my experience of playing it, as well as watching our beloved Vixy play through the game, Legends seems more like a Zelda-ish type adventure game to me, more so than a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person shooter.

My sentiments exactly.  Legends is a unique game, and it doesn't necessarily need to be "upgraded" in terms of controls.  The Lock-on system in MML2 was nice the way it was, and it's one of those traits that really defined the game.  All MML3 needs to do is expand on what the previous games started; multiple full-explorable islands, more reaverbots, more Bonne shenanigans, more weapons, and the great story writing that the series is known for.

[Aresian]

Haha, I hate you guys so much.

Anyways, I'm glad I had better things to do than to hit this up when it started, otherwise I'd be going nuts and fighting Flash on a rooftop with lens flares and DBZ style combat with Matrix effects... it'd be shitty, but lulzy.

That said... I worry about the potential L3. For all the reasons I used to worry. But I'm excited too.

This sums up my thoughts. What? No epic post of opinionation or something that will clash with Flash or a rant about how I hate Gaia? Nope, not this time Josey. I'm satisfied knowing that everything that could be said is being said and I had absolutely no gamble in it.

Ciao.

[Turian]

Well, I didn't mean legends. I meant a side series starring the original MM but still side series. No need to make a totally new MM for an experiment game.

[Protoman Blues]

My sentiments exactly.  Legends is a unique game, and it doesn't necessarily need to be "upgraded" in terms of controls.  The Lock-on system in MML2 was nice the way it was, and it's one of those traits that really defined the game.  All MML3 needs to do is expand on what the previous games started; multiple full-explorable islands, more reaverbots, more Bonne shenanigans, more weapons, and the great story writing that the series is known for.

No, he has a point actually. He just explained it badly, and a tad more doucheily!

I mean, I had no general issue with the control scheme for the most part, but to not upgrade the controls simply due to nostalgia isn't really a good gaming decision or business decision with the many control options available to us now in this glorious new era of gaming. The fact is that Legends 2 came out 10 years ago, and control schemes have definitely changed since then. Like I said, if they were to continue with the Zelda-ish adventure style gameplay, then I'd personally love a Zelda-ish Wii-style control scheme for the game.

Don't get me wrong. If MM9 & MM10 have taught us anything, it's that nostalgia sells. But with Legends, outside of the "OMG IT'S LEGEND THREEEEEEE" fans who would buy the game no matter what, they could easily expand on both the gameplay & controls more to try to make it for a broader audience, and I don't just mean hot purple hair sexy gaming broads!  

Well, I didn't mean legends. I meant a side series starring the original MM but still side series. No need to make a totally new MM for an experiment game.

I'd still prefer they just make a new series.

[Gaia]

Hell, I'm still waiting for my Giant Mech style MegaMan game. Of course, that's most likely just my ZOE3 longing leeching over to my Megalust.

Do tell. You never told me you have a ZOE mech..

[Protoman Blues]

Do tell. You never told me you have a ZOE mech..

Nor did I say it in that post. For once, think before you actually type!

[Gaia]

Nor did I say it in that post. For once, think before you actually type!

I know, I know. But sometimes RPM gets too wound up for something and I fail to -logically- catch up.

[Protoman Blues]

I know, I know. But sometimes RPM gets too wound up for something and I fail to -logically- catch up.

Well it's time to start, because I'm starting to consider what you do spam. Bannable spam!

[Aresian]

And frankly, that's my shtick. Only I can post bannable spam and get away with it. It's what makes me so charming.

[AquaTeamV3]

@PB:

I think a wise option would be to have multiple control schemes; one for people more used to the old one, and a next-gen one.  As a guy who knows little-to-nil about "modern" gaming controls, I'd probably be lost in the sauce with a new scheme.  A Wii setup that could potentially use the Classic Controller would sell me easily.

[Gaia]

@PB:

I think a wise option would be to have multiple control schemes; one for people more used to the old one, and a next-gen one.  As a guy who knows little-to-nil about "modern" gaming controls, I'd probably be lost in the sauce with a new scheme.  A Wii setup that could potentially use the Classic Controller would sell me easily.

Yes, just look at LoZ: Link's Crossbow Training, anyone remember that? I remember hearing that the controls were quite nice (I haven't played it yet).

[Protoman Blues]

@PB:

I think a wise option would be to have multiple control schemes; one for people more used to the old one, and a next-gen one.  As a guy who knows little-to-nil about "modern" gaming controls, I'd probably be lost in the sauce with a new scheme.  A Wii setup that could potentially use the Classic Controller would sell me easily.

Like the Most Excellent dude said though, if they revamp the game play with say the Wii control scheme, then having a 10 year old control scheme will probably not work that well for it. If they can make it work, then yes, more control schemes are never a bad thing. However, sadly you not knowing much about modern gaming controls is something they probably won't factor in.

[OKeijiDragon]

Like the Most Excellent dude said though, if they revamp the game play with say the Wii control scheme, then having a 10 year old control scheme will probably not work that well for it. If they can make it work, then yes, more control schemes are never a bad thing. However, sadly you not knowing much about modern gaming controls is something they probably won't factor in.

Use the bloody Classic Controller Pro, bro.



Hell, besides Nintendo, Capcom was the one who oversaw the design of that controller. It's practically a PS2 controller made for the Wii, which makes sense since Monster Hunter was a PS2 -- or just a PlayStation-branded -- game. I can definitely see myself playing a Legends game with it's "old" control scheme that controller.

Besides, I'd rather play a DASH 3 with familiar controls than playing it with a different scheme just because some people couldn't be assed to learn DASH 2 controls (I say DASH 2, because DASH 3 will be build upon it's predecessor). DASH 1's controls are primitive, Lock-On is useless today. But DASH 2 significantly improved it, Lock-On is still a [sonic slicer] but it's still much better then having you stand to lock into something. I'm totally fine with DASH 2's controls.

EDIT: I was still editing my post while Blues was replying back. Sorry for taking this long.

[Protoman Blues]

Use the bloody Classic Controller Pro, bro.



Hell, besides Nintendo, Capcom was the one who oversaw the design of that controller. It's practically a PS2 controller made for the Wii. I can definitely see myself playing a Legends game with that controller.

You're missing the point. The point is that it might only work if they kept the same Legends style game play. If the revamp the game play of the game, I.E. looking up, aiming, etc., then the control scheme might not be the same. I'm not saying they can't.

[Bueno Excelente]

You're missing the point. The point is that it might only work if they kept the same Legends style game play. If the revamp the game play of the game, I.E. looking up, aiming, etc., then the control scheme might not be the same. I'm not saying they can't.

And I'm saying that they CAN'T maintain the complete style of the old games in nowadays' gaming world because it was limited to hardware to begin with. A game made today would have more differences in scenery, more platforming, more varied obstacles, and not be made out of repetitive labyrinths with samey textures.

And for people saying they should maintain the old controls, listen to yourselves.The old controls were there because there was no easier way of moving in a 3D environment like that. Now that there is, they will not use those controls, just like FPS controls no longer use the button-turning they used on Goldeneye and on the old PC games. Just like we no longer use d-pads to move on 3D games, because THERE IS NO NEED TO. Controls no longer need to bend themselves over to provide suitable playable schematics in limited controller, because THEY'RE ALREADY AVAILABLE.


(sigh) What I feel is that these people will never, ever, EEEEEEEEVER get the point, because they've never played any game with a meaningful dual analog setup, being stuck in the friggin' void of retro games, Nintendo and JRPGs (and whatever games appeal to the specific niche of weeaboos that I haven't thought of).

[Acid]

Bat, I think you're a VERY serious case of taking things far too seriously.

[Bueno Excelente]

Bat, I think you're a VERY serious case of taking things far too seriously.

You say that... I don't think it means what you think it means.

[xnamkcor]

How about this. We assume each console will have some sort of aiming device and we set ir up like this:
Wii Controler With a WM+ and a Nunchaku
Plays like Twilight princess, but camera more for jumping and you can pan it manually.
What would be lock on, just tightens the camera behind Zero and makes it easier to aim, but you can still platform while in this mode. In zoomed out mode, it'd be easier to jump and stuff, but you can still shoot things.

PS: I demand more roller blade jumping opprotunities.

[OKeijiDragon]

You say that... I don't think it means what you think it means.

It's means you are bat crazy for taking it this serious.

The controls for the Legends game worked and it worked fine for those games (sans Lock-On perhaps. Improvements for Lock-On is welcome), and it didn't seem to stop people from enjoying the games either. MML doesn't need its controls "redone" for this generation, in my opinion. As someone said, you don't fix was wasn't broken.

[Bueno Excelente]

It's means you are bat crazy for taking it this serious.

The controls for the Legends game worked and it worked fine for those games (sans Lock-On perhaps. Improvements for Lock-On is welcome), and it didn't seem to stop people from enjoying the games either. MML doesn't need its controls "redone" for this generation, in my opinion. As someone said, you don't fix was wasn't broken.

Again, it's like saying black and white soundless movies should be made to be played in our HDMI TVs.

...the old controls were made for the old style of the game which was hampered by the technology of the time. A New Legends game, if not retro, would have to adopt a completely different control system.

In other words, the old controls were made because there were no analog sticks at the time, and most of the game took place in repetitive mazes. If there were, and the technology allowed for more variety, the game would have been very different.


...but I'm repeating myself, because honestly, many of the people I'm trying to explain my point here are [tornado fang]ing dumbasses who refuse to play any game with that kind of gameplay to begin with, so end up having NO idea how accurate controls work in the first place. AGAIN, like I said, it would be like when Goldeneye and Perfect Dark put the camera directions in buttons. It was in buttons because there was no second analog. When controllers started having a second analog, THEN we started having proper FPS games in consoles.

But of course, people will continue to not read my comments, and people will continue to say the same thing, that they liked the old controls and that the new game should have the old console, while banging their heads in the desks to make fire and drooling in their food to keep it warm. Thus is the ignorant weeaboo caveman life.

I'm [tornado fang]ing done.

[Gaia]

Oooh... kay.. never seen him this mad before (Calling the Kettle Black by calling someone who likes a control scheme that works well with a series a weaboo.. yeah) .. So, uh, can we have a topic lock before it gets even more crazy in here?

[Bueno Excelente]

Oooh... kay.. never seen him this mad before.. So, uh, can we have a topic lock before it gets even more crazy in here?

Thought that of all people, you'd agree with me on Legends. =P