Maverick: Misnomer or Justified term?

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on: February 15, 2010, 02:45:46 AM
In the first few games Mavericks simply meant Reploid criminals who attacked and terrorized humans due to either a flaw in their design or the being infected with the Virus but as the series progressed, it soon began to permeate into Reploids who defy the government or other political opponents who had been unjustly caled mavericks. It soon kind of got to a point when Neo Arcadia rose to power and began to mean who considered to be anyone who suspected to be an enemy of Neo Arcadia, even if the accusation was false. After playing Mega Man X4 and Command Mission, I have to wonder what exactly is the deal with the term "Maverick" anyway? Prior to Zero joining the Maverick Hunters and the advent of the Maverick Virus, the "Mavericks" rebelled out of their free will or merely due to flaws in their design as Dr. Cain couldn't fully replicate x's design very well.

That is not to say that all the bosses in series were merely virus infectees, some like Vile were looking were just looking for opponents to fight while others were political opponenets who wanted to liberate the Reploids from their human oppressors. There some innocent victims during the Maverick Wars such as Dr. Doppler who manipulated by Sigma into creating a brand new battle body for Sigma while creating placebos to spread throughout Dopplertown, under the guise that he had found a cure for the infected Reploids. Repliforce rebelled against the humans due to large misunderstanding that cost countless lives that could had all been avoided if they simply complied with the Hunters but they would rather fight than lose their pride and was thus called Maverick. The Rebellion in Command Mission simply rebelled out of their own free will and the desire to create a world for Reploids. Even Sigma merely used the Virus to help Reploids explore their full potential, however it is important to note that the Virus has been known to bring out the violent side of Reploids.

I don't understand how Gate, Repliforce, the Resistance (Zero series), Dr. Doppler and others can be Maverick if they were victims in some way in the Maverick Wars? Can the term "Maverick" be a misnomer or is it justified in some way?



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Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 07:02:26 AM
Some are justified. I feel others could've simply been avoided(Repliforce). There may have been some that are unfairly accused of being "Maverick".

I think if there was a clear, consise definition of a "maverick", the latter could be avoided.

I think a lot of this is what goes in X's mind, everytime he shoots, and how long will he have to keep battling mavericks? Would him and Zero both go maverick someday?



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Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 11:18:15 PM
You know, the term "maverick" would make a whole lot more sense if you'd just started thinking of it as "irregular".



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Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 11:30:11 PM
The original Mega Man was a maverick because he tried to kill Wily.  X would have retired him in a heartbeat.



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Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 12:58:05 AM
You know, the term "maverick" would make a whole lot more sense if you'd just started thinking of it as "irregular".

Soory about but I was writing what was on my mind about the term, "Maverick" and "Irregular" concerning the foes X fights in ther series.



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Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 01:38:56 AM
Irregular means "out of the ordinary." or in any case, "not normal"
that should be taken into consideration when evaluating the term Irregular/Maverick

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 02:59:47 AM
Or you could look up what "maverick" itself means, which is literally a nonconformist.  It's not that far from "irregular", the two are pretty close.  Granted, the etymology of "irregular" is more self-explanatory, but I think the issue is that people look at the context of MegaMan expecting to find some behavioral offense to define the label.

And that need not be the case.  Think of the term "Maverick" in MegaMan games as a psychological issue, and as with all psychological issues (whether of health or of belief), defining it is a somewhat loose concept open to some degree of interpretation.  You cannot quantify one's mind and their ideas the way you can, say, their temperature; you rather have to observe their behavior and judge for yourself what pattern it fits into.  It is only natural that there be differences in opinion on where the line is drawn in such judgments, and that over time, said opinions may change.

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Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 05:51:00 AM



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Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 08:53:01 AM
The original Mega Man was a maverick because he tried to kill Wily.  X would have retired him in a heartbeat.

[spoiler]Yea, the ending of Megaman 7 did show a maverick side of Megaman...but can you really blame him? I'm behind megaman pulling the trigger myself.[/spoiler]

Or better yet, instead of putting Wily in Jail like they did in 6, immediately execute him, assuming megaman does get a chance to catch him again.



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Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 03:34:04 PM
You do know that he never actually threatened Wily verbally?
he may have aimed at him and considered it, but Wily left him speechless when he said robots cant harm humans.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 05:38:32 PM
he may have aimed at him and considered it, but Wily left him speechless when he said robots cant harm humans.

Not true.  Megaman said he was more than a robot.

He was totally going to kill him.



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Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 05:43:21 PM
He ISN'T more than a robot.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 05:45:34 PM
He's a murder bot.



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Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 10:03:50 PM
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"Didn't Epsilon tell you?  Only future generations can judge whether we are truly Maverick or not."

It's pretty much nothing else than bias and childish name calling with consequences of life and death.



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Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 11:51:45 PM
You do know that he never actually threatened Wily verbally?
he may have aimed at him and considered it, but Wily left him speechless when he said robots cant harm humans.

Uhh, not in Megaman 7. Maybe in Rockman 7, but not in Megaman 7.



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Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 01:36:06 AM
English translations are derivative works.  For broad story implications the original takes precedence.

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Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 04:15:31 AM
Uhh, not in Megaman 7. Maybe in Rockman 7, but not in Megaman 7.
Rockman 7 is what counts. Megaman 7 has translation errors, by the localization team doing a very bad job.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #17 on: February 20, 2010, 06:03:37 AM
You know, the term "maverick" would make a whole lot more sense if you'd just started thinking of it as "irregular".
But then we would start making jokes about constipation! 8D

Not true.  Megaman said he was more than a robot.

He was totally going to kill him.
Oh great, you just HAD to bring up the localization of 7's ending AGAIN, didn't you.  Like we all just love seeing that one batted back and forth forever.



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Reply #18 on: February 20, 2010, 07:59:44 AM
Oh great, you just HAD to bring up the localization of 7's ending AGAIN, didn't you.  Like we all just love seeing that one batted back and forth forever.

Actually, I do.



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Reply #19 on: February 20, 2010, 01:56:49 PM
Oh great, you just HAD to bring up the localization of 7's ending AGAIN, didn't you.  Like we all just love seeing that one batted back and forth forever.
Actually, I do.


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Reply #20 on: February 20, 2010, 06:35:52 PM
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...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #21 on: February 20, 2010, 11:12:39 PM
Suddenly, Wily II comes and saves Wily!

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Reply #22 on: February 21, 2010, 05:22:01 AM
Suddenly, Wily II comes and saves Wily!
Why would I do that?
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Reply #23 on: February 21, 2010, 05:24:32 AM
Because 2 Wily's are better than 1.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #24 on: February 21, 2010, 05:44:30 AM
Nah, I prefer to take over from him. [eyebrow]


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