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Reply #600 on: May 14, 2010, 07:33:14 PM
Bigger pictures.

Also, pokemon have actual animation while idle now.



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Reply #601 on: May 14, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
Idle animations? Now that's top quality.



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Reply #602 on: May 14, 2010, 09:57:56 PM
Quote from: PokéBeach
The preview section in this month's CoroCoro magazine states that June 15th's issue will feature a new Pokemon as well as information on how to evolve Zorua into Zoroark (and of course new screenshots, info, etc.). Scans of the issue will likely leak on to the Internet between June 10th and 12th, and it is possible an upcoming Pokemon Sunday episode could feature the Pokemon's silhouette (probably the June 6th episode, if any).

And now we speculate some more. :v



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Reply #603 on: May 15, 2010, 12:01:40 AM
Random question, is anyone NOT planning on giving a bacon related nickname to their fire starter? I find the temptation hard to resist XD
I shall dub mine, Baconator! 



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Reply #604 on: May 15, 2010, 12:15:25 AM
I shall dub mine, Baconator! 

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Reply #605 on: May 15, 2010, 01:39:20 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?

Looks interesting, I guess.

Trainers look surprisingly good.  Nice to have a male that looks normal again, but I dunno that I can say no to those shorts.  >.>

Random question, is anyone NOT planning on giving a bacon related nickname to their fire starter? I find the temptation hard to resist XD
Having just seen The Simpsons Movie, I was thinking more along the lines of SwineTorch.
Seriously, though, why are all the weird animals used as fire starters?  Chicken, monkey, pig?  Every new one makes me miss Charizard and Typhlosion that much more.

Looks like I'll be taking the Grass starter this time.

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Reply #606 on: May 15, 2010, 01:44:26 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?
Looks more like he can transform into them to me.

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Reply #607 on: May 15, 2010, 01:48:12 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?

The special event activated by the special Raikou, Entei & Suicune given with the upcoming movie; Phantom Champion Zoroark has been detailled. In this event, when you bring the beasts (it is unclear if it's all three or just one)to the game, a special battle will occur. This battle is against a Level 25 Zoroark which will transform into the various Pokémon. At many points, it will break its transformation to allow you to capture it.

The move is called Illusion.



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Reply #608 on: May 15, 2010, 01:49:33 AM
Ah so it's a different transforming move like in the movie.

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Reply #609 on: May 15, 2010, 02:11:30 AM
So, Zoark has his own beast trio that has a rivalry with shiny beasts, or something?

He IS his own beast trio.

Seriously, though, why are all the weird animals used as fire starters?  Chicken, monkey, pig?  Every new one makes me miss Charizard and Typhlosion that much more.

The Typhlosion family are supposed to be mice, if that's not as weird of a decision as the rest then I don't know what it is. Also, at least Blaziken's family makes sense (fried chicken XD)


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Reply #610 on: May 15, 2010, 02:26:05 AM


Now you can make a better GIF with these screens. ^^b



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Reply #611 on: May 15, 2010, 04:23:41 PM
The move is called Illusion.
It's not a move, it's Zoroark's ability. ._.


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Reply #612 on: May 15, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
In response to the fire starter names, I heard a few already that I absolutely loved, namely Pignition & Piglit. XD



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Reply #613 on: May 15, 2010, 05:12:12 PM
I also heard Emboar.


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Reply #615 on: May 15, 2010, 05:43:47 PM
So if that's his ability, does that make Zoroark the equivalent of random select in fighting games?


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Reply #616 on: May 15, 2010, 05:49:29 PM
We won't know for sure till new info comes in.


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Reply #617 on: May 15, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
You know, what until I know what his final form looks like, I'll call him Porkchop.

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Reply #618 on: May 15, 2010, 09:43:37 PM
Say, is there any kind of information of the Effort Value System out here yet? I want to know, if Nintendo has finally decided to remove that stupid 510 EV limitation.



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Reply #619 on: May 15, 2010, 09:45:47 PM
Say, is there any kind of information of the Effort Value System out here yet? I want to know, if Nintendo has finally decided to remove that stupid 510 EV limitation.
As in, one would be able to invest all EVs in one stat? That would be nice.


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Reply #620 on: May 15, 2010, 09:54:12 PM
Say, is there any kind of information of the Effort Value System out here yet? I want to know, if Nintendo has finally decided to remove that stupid 510 EV limitation.

yeah man and i hope they raise the level cap to 200 and remove autolevelling when you battle people 'cause grinding is just SO MUCH FUN

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Reply #621 on: May 15, 2010, 09:58:49 PM
yeah man and i hope they raise the level cap to 200 and remove autolevelling when you battle people 'cause grinding is just SO MUCH FUN

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I don't think that was insinuated anywhere.
Also, if the vitamin limit could be eliminated as well, that would be supreme.


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Reply #622 on: May 15, 2010, 10:03:26 PM
We've had this conversation before. He wants the EV cap raised to 1512, so he'll be able to max out every stat. This, y'know, makes EVs completely pointless, 'cause with no choice in their placement, they add nothing but something else to grind before your pokemon are battle worthy, but hey, it's a good idea anyway, right? Because only being able to max out two stats so you have to actually think about what you want your pokemon to do is just so restrictive.



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Reply #623 on: May 15, 2010, 10:22:38 PM
You know in generation 1 and 2 it was possible to maximise all stats, but from generation 3 and above there was no longer the status expierence system, but the Effort Value System with that retarded limitation off 510 EV. One stat could be maximised with 255 EV which gives your pokemon in the chosen stat 63 points (4 EVs makes 1 Point). The only thing what could be done with the limitation was to place the EVs to different stats, in order that the pokemon were atleast balanced. Wouldn´t be there such a limit, we could give our pokemon a total of 1530 EVs.

The natures and the abilities were good additions to the new Pokemon games, but it was unforgiveable to cripple our pokemon by such a limit. It worked in generation 1 and 2, so why was it changed in the first place?

We've had this conversation before. He wants the EV cap raised to 1512, so he'll be able to max out every stat. This, y'know, makes EVs completely pointless, 'cause with no choice in their placement, they add nothing but something else to grind before your pokemon are battle worthy, but hey, it's a good idea anyway, right? Because only being able to max out two stats so you have to actually think about what you want your pokemon to do is just so restrictive.

Two stats are boring, they make your pokemon in the worst case to walking class tanks, which breaks in the second round into uncountable smithereens. 
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Reply #624 on: May 15, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
Or they could just remove EVs altogether to produce the same result!

because there's no way I would grind for 1500+ EVs per Pokemon...I'm too lazy to do it as it is now.

Besides I doubt they'll really make a major change to the IVs and EVs since there will probably be the ability to get Pokemon from older games somehow, so if they changed anything it would screw them up..