IGN steps up to the plate to defend Megaman 10

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on: December 24, 2009, 09:47:54 AM
It's been a while since I last posted something news-worthy...

As the title says, IGN has stepped in to defend Megaman 10.
Why? Well...
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I implore the skeptics and loudmouths to do one thing. Sit down and play an old Mega Man game. Ignore Mega Man 9 completely, and go back further. If you don’t have access to an NES and the old cartridges, break out that Wii, go to the Virtual Console, and drop $5 on a game like Mega Man 3 (my favorite game of all time). Remove yourself from the critical and snarky internet age, and place yourself in, say, 1990. Let the classic music enter your ears as you browse the stage select screen. And then play. Experience the 8-bit Mega Man series’ influence on gaming culture. Imagine a simpler time in gaming when gameplay was the be all-end all, the king of the block. Immerse yourself in the 8-bit sights and sounds, the difficult and rewarding play. And then come back here and tell me you aren’t impressed with what that game not only did, but continues to do.

There you have it. XD

You can read the whole article here: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1055913p1.html

Though I have to thank Flame for this find, so...
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Reply #1 on: December 24, 2009, 10:31:02 AM
 ~w~ Yum.
I'll say what ive said before though, this guy is so biased that not even the Joker could find it funny.

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“But if you're not a fan, or have no fond memories of gaming's past, you may criticize Mega Man 10 for its outdated look, familiar gameplay and lack of innovation. Just be absolutely certain that if you find yourself falling in the latter group, you duck quickly for the Irony Mountain that’s about to fall on your head as you play twenty-five first-person shooters next year. Then again, with a difficult game like Mega Man 10 headed your way, a game like Modern Warfare 2 might be more your speed after all.”

“Mega Man 7 and 8 are regularly considered the worst games in the series by the most ardent fans of the franchise”

“The series eventually [after 6] evolved and broke off into what ultimately has become a fragmented franchise rife with garbage. ”

He's not biased.
Much...

Actually, something that IS funny, Is how the article starts off alright, and seemingly with a good point, and then just delves into his own opinions and pretty much a nerd rage on FPS's.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #2 on: December 24, 2009, 10:34:01 AM
MM 7 & 8 are worst?
WTF is he smoking!?



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Reply #3 on: December 24, 2009, 10:38:58 AM
I guess the defender, is going to be a defendee soon. XD


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Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 11:08:41 AM
MM 7 & 8 are worst?
WTF is he smoking!?

Beats me, but he needs to take a Blue Pill.



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Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 11:35:39 AM
If the game needs defending maybe something is wrong?
And my beef with 9 (and 10) is still the gameplay.



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Reply #6 on: December 24, 2009, 01:01:15 PM
Those are some huge nostalgia goggles you got there, IGN



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Reply #7 on: December 24, 2009, 03:03:21 PM
What a pretentious load of crap.

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Reply #8 on: December 24, 2009, 03:26:00 PM
I like how he brings up Battletoads to try and show how oldschool and hardcore he is.

If he'd played it I'd expect he'd have realised that the game is [tornado fang]ing terrible.



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Reply #9 on: December 24, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
Well, a good point with bad support is nothing new to IGN.

It is rather funny to see a member of IGN's PS3 team defending gameplay over presentation when IGN's Wii team has sent out multiple articles and podcasts bitching about that very same approach (NSMBWii's success despite lacking fancy lighting effects and orchestras gave them seizures).

But hey, you can't argue with praising MM3.  Even if insulting 8 risks ZEE UPPERCUT.

Really, though, I still say that 9 did not match up to 1-3.  I'm hoping 10 does better, I really am, but if they take the same approach to the shop then that's a point against them right there (which is, incidentally, one thing that 8 did better than any other entry).

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Reply #10 on: December 24, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
This is the second time you have mentioned the shop. What exactly was wrong with it? Not trying to start a fight, I genuinely want your opinion.



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Reply #11 on: December 24, 2009, 06:09:12 PM
9's shop sells items that in true Classic-series games exist as stage pickups (E-Tanks in particular).  For reasons of game balance actual stage item pickups within 9 are virtually eliminated.  To me, this damages attempts at returning to the "classic" MegaMan formula and leaves the actual NES games a far more streamlined and enjoyable experience.

The use of randomly dropped currency is also questionable in itself, since it encourages camping.  Breaking the shop is a simple matter of Jewel Satellite + TellyBomb spawn point.  One also has to raise an eyebrow at the fact that the purely cosmetic shop items are prohibitively expensive; in any normal playthrough you most likely wouldn't be able to touch them.

8 did two things with the shop that were key to it being successful.  One, nothing it sold was disposable.  You didn't buy healing items, you bought equipment.  Two, it used collection items rather than random items as its currency, so there was no camping.  Short of some "emergency" life/energy pellets, you should never have to camp for anything in a side-scrolling MegaMan game.

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Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 06:16:26 PM
8 made you choose wisely what you wanted, because you couldnt get everything.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #13 on: December 24, 2009, 06:30:08 PM
I can appreciate the matter of balance/decision-making in not being able to get everything, but it's not the most appealing point to me.  All the more reason why multiple save slots are handy for a game like 8.

I do like to eventually get everything, but that is, of course, why we have New Game Plus in this day and age.  At least 8 didn't tie power-ups together in senseless combinations (*coughX5cough*), you could put together whatever selection you wanted.  Just not all at once.

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Reply #14 on: December 24, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
Doesn't NES Battletoads leave its players shells of their former selves?



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Reply #15 on: December 24, 2009, 07:41:02 PM
I stopped caring about IGN when they got Tingle kicked out of Zelda. |:



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Reply #16 on: December 24, 2009, 07:48:15 PM
I stopped caring about IGN when they got Tingle kicked out of Zelda. |:

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Reply #17 on: December 24, 2009, 07:50:40 PM
Oh, and they bashed MM9's graphics, and docked SF1 and BN5DT many points for being "more of the same". (Yeah, they complained that SF1 was too BN-y...)



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Reply #18 on: December 24, 2009, 08:38:39 PM
Oh, and they bashed MM9's graphics, and docked SF1 and BN5DT many points for being "more of the same". (Yeah, they complained that SF1 was too BN-y...)

..And how many hit FPSes play alike..?  8D It's one of the reasons why I don't go to IGN at most times: IGN is IGNorance.

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Reply #19 on: December 24, 2009, 10:01:46 PM
Beh, I don't care about IGN much. I only read news articles, not some critics and some...stuff. :|


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Reply #20 on: December 25, 2009, 04:32:01 AM
they bashed MM9's graphics
I smelled a whole shitload of fish guts when IGN made the aforementioned statement... now IGN defends MM10? What is this blasphemy?

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Reply #21 on: December 25, 2009, 06:26:47 AM
I'm hoping 10 does better, I really am, but if they take the same approach to the shop then that's a point against them right there (which is, incidentally, one thing that 8 did better than any other entry).
MegaMan does often suffer from the sort of corporate groupthink that would change something for the worse and leave it that way for 3 more games.  Maybe they'll get the item system right again by MegaMan 12!



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Reply #22 on: December 25, 2009, 08:36:12 AM
MegaMan does often suffer from the sort of corporate groupthink that would change something for the worse and leave it that way for 3 more games.  Maybe they'll get the item system right again by MegaMan 12!
Better late than never.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #23 on: December 25, 2009, 04:56:09 PM
I suppose so.  In the meantime I can camp with a shield weapon at an enemy spawn point to enjoy the same end effect as a WiiRD code, simply with longer play time.

I smelled a whole shitload of fish guts when IGN made the aforementioned statement... now IGN defends MM10? What is this blasphemy?
IGN is multiple people.  This defense of MM10 comes from a member of their PS3 team.  I expect their Wii team to continue bitching as usual.

I'm seriously wondering if this is just a "the grass is always greener" thing.  The PS3 team wants to see gameplay over visuals and orchestras while the Wii team wants to see the complete opposite.  I was utterly dumbfounded when Craig requested more side-scrolling areas for Galaxy 2 after his backing up Matt's NSMB-bashing article in a recent podcast.  They would honestly rather have a polygon-pushing orchestrated 3D adventure that half the time pretends it's a 2D side-scroller than an actual 2D side-scroller with a more true and focused design, all because it carries with it a more simplified presentation.

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Reply #24 on: December 25, 2009, 06:40:18 PM
Or, it could all be just to get more traffic.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.