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Nintendo of Japan went to the patent office and got a few Trademark protections
here is a list.
    *  DSiMail
    * DSiMode
    * DSiVision
    * DSiCommunication
    * DSArcade
    * DSBook
    * DSCreator
    * DSClub
    * DSCommunity
    * DSCooking
    * DSDiary
    * DSeye
    * DSFamily
    * DSFriend
    * DSLife
    * DSLive
    * DSLibrary
    * DSmobile
    * DSMap
    * DSNavi
    * DSNet
    * DSPhone
    * DSPlus
    * DSPoint
    * DSSchool
    * DSSpeak

Quote from: Ephidiel on November 13, 2008, 04:35:35 PM
    * DSiMail
    * DSArcade
    * DSCommunity
    * DSPhone
    * DSSchool   

Those ones caught my eye, but wth at DSSchool. Also, looks like the Iphone has competition now 8D

What I would like to know is if these are going to be physical media for the DSi (carts), firmware upgrades (possible but not likely), or most things are in the browser already.

Either way, the DSi plot thickens once again.

I suspect DSWare for all of this stuff.

Still not going to buy this. I'm fine with the Lite version, no need to get any upgrades... yet. -_-

I'm dying to get a hold of a DSi and phantasy star 0

but i dont have the money

Lots of Nintendo news out of the blue lately... Wonder what's up, anyways:


Press Release is Here. (http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/Q5D4ti_bPqJO_I0Oup0AMFudaUOLz6C7)

And then there was Rhythm:

QuoteAlso on April 5, a new Nintendo DS game, Rhythm Heaven, will join this roster of games available for both Nintendo DSi and Nintendo DS owners in the United States. Having sold more than 1.6 million copies since its July 2008 launch in Japan and still increasing sales today, this infectious game challenges players to tap and slide the stylus on the touch screen in time to original music created by legendary Japanese pop-star producer TSUNKU♂. Simple gestures with the stylus combined with fun music and quirky visuals make Rhythm Heaven a completely unique musical experience for players of all ages.

Discuss.

I swear, I can't say DSi without thinking of the O.S.I. theme from The Venture Bros.  Meanwhile, I've gotta say the Ice Blue one looks sexy!

[tornado fang] YEAH!

... >>;

Also, why no white DSi?

No white DSi?  :\

LAME!!!!!!  ::)

Wait for it... if they build it, it will come. ^^;

Quote from: Vixy on February 18, 2009, 08:33:05 PM
Wait for it... if they build it, it will come. ^^;

lol u 8D

I might get the Blue one. I have to see more pictures of it first.

Finally, a date. Looks like Rythm Heaven will be a launch title.

Quote from: N-Mario on February 18, 2009, 08:28:37 PM
No white DSi?  :\

LAME!!!!!!  ::)

For once we get acolor the Japanese don't and there are still complaints? Blue DSi>White DSi anyways :P

Phooey on your white. That blue looks sexy.


(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/gregbuczek/screenshot_04.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/gregbuczek/screenshot_01-5.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/gregbuczek/bleu.jpg)

Quote from: Taiyo on February 18, 2009, 08:39:33 PM
For once we get acolor the Japanese don't and there are still complaints?

This too.

Quote from: Jericho on February 18, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/gregbuczek/screenshot_04.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/gregbuczek/screenshot_01-5.jpg)

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/gregbuczek/bleu.jpg)

Ok, I think I'll be getting the blue one.

Also,

Quote
Two DSiWare titles confirmed for North America
February 18th, 2009
Were you wondering what DSiWare titles Nintendo plans on bringing over to North America? While we don't have a full list of titles planned for translation, we do have confirmation of at least two games that we'll eventually receive.

MTV got their hands on the DSi for a good 30 minutes, and in that time they managed to check out two DSi titles. The first title was Art Style: Decode, and the second was Wario War Snapped. Art Style: Decode went by the same name in Japan, and Wario Ware Snapped is the localized version of Utsusu Wario Ware. Unfortunately, no release dates were given for these games.

What's the difference between this and DS Lite?

Quote from: Noboka on February 18, 2009, 09:28:52 PM
What's the difference between this and DS Lite?

+ Better specs
+ Has a camera for manipulating things and fun applications (think Game Boy Camera)
+ SD Card slot
+ DSi Ware Store (and possible GB/GBC/GBA Virtual Console)
+ Larger Screens
+ Brighter Screens

- No GBA Slot
- Batteries are depleted faster on the higher light settings

+/- 169.99 vs 129.99 lite

? - possible (confirmed) DSi only games coming soon.

Quote from: Noboka on February 18, 2009, 09:28:52 PM
What's the difference between this and DS Lite?

Someone didn't read the press release. 8D

Quote from: Kyouya Garyuu on February 18, 2009, 09:32:22 PM
Someone didn't read the press release. 8D

It's not so bad, I already left some good info. :)

The Nintendo CDi.

Nintendo DualScreenPortable

Quote from: Jericho on February 18, 2009, 09:31:48 PM
+ Better specs
+ Has a camera for manipulating things and fun applications (think Game Boy Camera)
+ SD Card slot
+ DSi Ware Store (and possible GB/GBC/GBA Virtual Console)
+ Larger Screens
+ Brighter Screens

- No GBA Slot
- Batteries are depleted faster on the higher light settings

+/- 169.99 vs 129.99 lite

? - possible (confirmed) DSi only games coming soon.

In other words, look at the DSi as the GB Color of the DS.

GB Color didn't kill backwards compatibility.

This is more like the Wii to the GCN, replacing the massive controller upheaval with a couple of low-res cameras (there are two; one on the outside and one on the hinge).  The CPU speed is definitely faster, but the "legacy" mode limits it when playing DS games.  Makes me wondering whether or not DSi-specific carts will be in the future.

And oh yeah, it breaks old flash cards, but as you'd expect the shadowy boys already have new products on the way. 

I like the Idea of a Virtual Console for GB/GBC/GBA, then I can finally get the games I wanted for those systems! (Good thing I got a lot of games for those already!)

To be fair, there is NOTHING official about a portable Virtual Console.  It's just rabid speculation for which Nintendo will likely have to answer to a crowd of torches and pitchforks if they don't follow through.

As of now the DSi offers original downloadable games, and some music/image toys.

Quote from: Hypershell on February 19, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
To be fair, there is NOTHING official about a portable Virtual Console.  It's just rabid speculation for which Nintendo will likely have to answer to a crowd of torches and pitchforks if they don't follow through.

Hence "possible" when I noted it.

I realize that.  I'm just throwing a word of caution out there.  EVERYONE talks about the possibility of a "Virtual Handheld", but that doesn't mean jack squat unless Nintendo acts on it.  And there are plenty of "inevitable" moves that people insisted Nintendo MUST do, yet they never actually do.

Quote

Australia, 19 February, 2009 – Nintendo Australia announces that Nintendo DSi™ - an upgrade to the Nintendo DS® hand held console - will hit shelves in Australia and New Zealand, and you can get your hands on one on 2 April 2009. Nintendo DSi has something for everyone, containing more functions to bring you more fun! Keep a photo diary via your Nintendo DSi Camera; store and play music with Nintendo DSi Sound; or why not browse the web on your Nintendo DSi via the Nintendo DSi Shop! New features include larger LCD screens, SD memory card slot, improved speakers and a slimmer unit.

Take photos with your Nintendo DSi Camera and manipulate and play with the images - real-time interactive imaging software makes the photo taking experience different from that offered by any other portable device. With 11 different types of lenses to choose from, edit, morph and distort your photos. You can even use the merge lens to blend two faces together! Watch slideshows of your photos, store your photos on your Nintendo DSi and exchange photos with other Nintendo DSi users. Store and play music with Nintendo DSi Sound. You can also play with any music that you have on an SD memory card – make your favourite songs play faster! Learning a foreign language? Slow down the playback of someone speaking in that language so it's easier for you to learn! You can also record sounds using the microphone, and edit them to create new sounds.





Get your Nintendo DSi online via the Nintendo DSi Browser which will be available as a free download at launch. You can then purchase Nintendo DSi software via the Nintendo DSi Shop. By purchasing a Nintendo Points Card – formerly a Wii Points Card - you can then use your points to download software – Nintendo DSiWare - in the Nintendo DSi Shop. Nintendo DSiWare will be available in four different price categories: free, 200 points, 500 points, and 800 or more points. Nintendo DSiWare will not only be games you can download, but also practical applications. Nintendo will launch a variety of applications, giving you the option to download the applications that work for you. This will further personalise and enhance the functionality of your Nintendo DSi. The new features also include the dual LCD screens being 17 per cent larger than those on the Nintendo DS and PictoChat is now available in colour as you can choose between a black or rainbow pen! Nintendo DS software is compatible with Nintendo DSi, except for software that requires the Game Boy Advance cartridge slot, as this has been removed resulting in a slimmer Nintendo DSi.

Available in matte black or matte white, inclusive of built in memory, Wi-Fi functionality, calendar with memo function and touch screen, Nintendo DSi is a more portable, personalised experience.

It's your Nintendo DSi.

AU SRP $299.95 / NZ SRP $375.00 (NZ price is based on current exchange rate)
For more information on Nintendo DSi, please visit: http://gamesites.nintendo.com.au/DSi

How much is that in dollars?

Wow I can't believe it's coming that fast I might save up to get one maybe if I'm lucky other colors may come out, if not I'll just get the blue.

Quote from: Sakura on February 19, 2009, 01:48:35 AM
Wow I can't believe it's coming that fast I might save up to get one maybe if I'm lucky other colors may come out, if not I'll just get the blue.

Oh, there will definitely be other colors.  It's a Nintendo Handheld!  It's damn near like Skittles!

Posted on: February 19, 2009, 06:17:07

---

HEY EUROPE! (http://kotaku.com/5156255/dsi-european-release-date-price-announced) You're getting it before us too!   8)

Crap. Everyone else (Japan and Europe) gets white and black on release days, and we get funky blues. -_-.

They'll probably end up giving us white later on in the years, but I'd rather have them release white first to stay along with everyone else.

I know which color I'll get in the future: Red. 8D

Quote from: N-Mario on February 19, 2009, 08:23:50 AM
Crap. Everyone else (Japan and Europe) gets white and black on release days, and we get funky blues. -_-.

They'll probably end up giving us white later on in the years, but I'd rather have them release white first to stay along with everyone else.

To that I say:

Quote from: Taiyo on February 18, 2009, 08:39:33 PM
For once we get acolor the Japanese don't and there are still complaints? Blue DSi>White DSi anyways :P

Quote from: Taiyo on February 18, 2009, 08:39:33 PMBlue DSi>White DSi anyways :P

Dark Blue > Light Blue.

Quote from: Kyouya Garyuu on February 19, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
Dark Blue > Light Blue.

You've won this round for now. XD

*Wonders why no one has released a sapphire, cobalt, or azure colored DS*

Quote from: Jericho on February 19, 2009, 06:58:52 PM
*Wonders why no one has released a sapphire, cobalt, or azure colored DS*

cause Ninty doesn't see in shades. there's blue, and there's nonblue.

i'm perfectly fine with black, by the way.

I think I'm gonna get the Gamestop Nintendo DSi Accessory Bundle (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?Product%5FID=74034)

*sees the sexcellent blue color*

Dammit...now me buying this increased to 51%....dammit.

Quote from: Kyouya Garyuu on February 19, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
Dark Blue > Light Blue.

Quote from: Jericho on February 19, 2009, 06:58:52 PM
You've won this round for now. XD

*Wonders why no one has released a sapphire, cobalt, or azure colored DS*

i like dark blue also the azure sounds cool if they come with that one i'll get that one

Quote from: Sparky on February 19, 2009, 08:33:57 AM
I know which color I'll get in the future: Red. 8D

Seconded, also I will probably have to wait 4 years to even get a DSi, just like with my DS lite. ::)

I dunno what I'm going to do if there winds up being WiiVC games on the DSiVC, if it has one.

Scream, possibly? Curse the money I've spent? 'Cause, really, why pay for, say, SMB3 on the Wii when you can have SMB3 for your DS and take it with you anywhere?

For the big screen experience? Pfft.

All this means is that I can get a DS Lite because people will be trading them in for this piece of [parasitic bomb] fine nintendo hardware.

Quote from: Jewel Man on February 20, 2009, 01:02:45 AM
All this means is that I can get a DS Lite because people will be trading them in for this piece of [parasitic bomb] fine nintendo hardware.

Considering there are already DSes out there, I'd pretty much say the DSi's value is tied into the following:
~Does it have a VC of some sort? (70%)
~Does it allow multiplayer via wireless connections? (20%)
~Does it allow for online multiplayer of said VC games? (10%)

And before anyone asks, I just checked:
System registrations do not give you Coins for Club Nintendo.

(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/rt-inu.gif) Needs more Rhythm Tengoku love plz~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_Tengoku) Also the NDS version. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_Heaven)

Back when both the games for GBA and NDS came out, I 100% them. I have wonderful rhythm skills. ^^

I'm not quite sure the DSi will be worth the $170 it's going for at the moment.

Unless Nintendo is planning a big game to go with the release of the DSi, which I'm kind of inclined to doubt at the moment. >.>

Quote from: HyperSonic.EXE on February 20, 2009, 12:57:23 AM
Scream, possibly? Curse the money I've spent? 'Cause, really, why pay for, say, SMB3 on the Wii when you can have SMB3 for your DS and take it with you anywhere?

Welcome to my world upon deciding that I liked Four Swords (when I can coax my brother into playing, anyway).

QuoteFor the big screen experience? Pfft.

The reason I bought SMB1 on VC, although to be honest "big" relative to the GBC screen is enough of a difference for it to be worth it.

Still wish they could have kept the later Luigi colors, though...

I'm selling my brand-new DS lite, which I pimped out with protectors and styluses galore, I even have the original box n' stuff.

Apparantly, the original DSi design was supposed to have two DS card slots, but wasn't well recieved because it would have been bigger. (http://kotaku.com/5157352/original-dsi-design-had-two-ds-slots-was-disliked-by-nintendo-dev-team)

That sounds ten times better than the version that Nintendo went with.

Although Nintendo forgets how the DS Phat still outsold the PSP even with it being slightly bulkier.

...Why 2 DS card slots?

Quote from: Sakura on February 21, 2009, 03:07:57 AM
...Why 2 DS card slots?

One's a DS card slot, the other is for SD memory cards a la the Wii.

Quote from: Jericho on February 21, 2009, 03:10:36 AM
One's a DS card slot, the other is for SD memory cards a la the Wii.

No, it means two DS game card slots.

Quote from: Jericho on February 21, 2009, 03:10:36 AM
One's a DS card slot, the other is for SD memory cards a la the Wii.

Oh I thought they would use a smaller card like the one on the PSP's.

Quote from: Jericho on February 21, 2009, 03:10:36 AM
One's a DS card slot, the other is for SD memory cards a la the Wii.

She was talking about the original design, which is what I mentioned. I assume the SD slot would still be there, just with two DS card slots. >.>

Anyways, the reason for that could be:

A. Hold Two games in the system at once

B. Possibly do something like what Sonic and Knuckles did to Sonic 2 and 3.

but since it's not happening, we'll never know.

Quote from: LazyMan on February 21, 2009, 03:13:28 AM
B. Possibly do something like what Sonic and Knuckles did to Sonic 2 and 3.

but since it's not happening, we'll never know.

Can you elaborate more on that?

If you put a Sonic 3 Cartridge into the Sonic and Knuckles cartridge, it let you play Sonic 3 as Knuckles.

Since games have advanced since then, carts could probably add more than characters to an already exisiting game.

BUT, since it's not happening, we'll never know what could have been.

Quote from: Sakura on February 21, 2009, 03:24:09 AM
Can you elaborate more on that?

Why did I get sad all of a sudden? =/

Quote from: LazyMan on February 21, 2009, 03:26:02 AM
If you put a Sonic 3 Cartridge into the Sonic and Knuckles cartridge, it let you play Sonic 3 as Knuckles.

Since games have advanced since then, carts could probably add more than characters to an already exisiting game.

BUT, since it's not happening, we'll never know what could have been.

Oh okay thanks, I didn't understand since my brother got the PC version.

I don't see the point in jumping to this one yet. Perhaps after a price drop (snerk) or when more "solid" titles are released. Right now, I see no incentive to upgrade from the DS lite... or even a normal DS.

Well since the power button is smaller than the first DS and is located lower, it lowers the chance of an accidental reset.

The only reason why I don't want to buy the DSi is that the specific games for it are all region locked. While I could solve this by buying an import, that's an extra $50 I have to spend for it, and I don't have the option of turning in my DS lite in order to help pay off for it. If it wasn't for the god damn region lock, I'd be all over this thing making love to it.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how well of an MP3 player this thing is?

A crappy one, because it's not an MP3 player at all.  It's strictly an AAC player.  If you want to play MP3s, you want a flash card with Moonshell, not a DSi.

And yeah, the region-lock sucks, but I'm not even sure if "DSi exclusive games" will ever exist in cartridge format at all.  No flash card can as of yet access the DSi's features, it's possible that booting to a cartridge kicks the DSi into "legacy" mode automatically.  Or it could just be that flash card manufacturers want something out in the meantime until they fully crack the DSi's encryption.  It's a matter of whether or not Nintendo designed the DSi's extra stuff to be exclusive to downloadables and firmware, which currently they are.  Whether or not Big N left a window open for the future, we don't know.

Quote from: Sakura on February 21, 2009, 03:30:30 AM
Well since the power button is smaller than the first DS and is located lower, it lowers the chance of an accidental reset.

You have to hold the power button for just as long on the original DS as you do the slider on the Lite.  So you are actually less prone to accidental resets on the original since you can SEE the button, unless you just can't get it through your head that start and select are on the other side.

In that case, get a DSi.  But I hate the Lite's slider.  It's EVIL. -_-

Quote from: Hypershell on February 23, 2009, 07:57:45 PM
You have to hold the power button for just as long on the original DS as you do the slider on the Lite.  So you are actually less prone to accidental resets on the original since you can SEE the button, unless you just can't get it through your head that start and select are on the other side.

In that case, get a DSi.  But I hate the Lite's slider.  It's EVIL. -_-

I know I hate the slider but sometimes I think I did accidently reset it on the first DS I got...unfortunally it happens on Animal Crossing.

Heh, I wonder how people will react to this. (http://kotaku.com/5159936/japan-is-getting-three-new-dsi-colors)

Quote from: Protoman Blues on February 25, 2009, 08:39:07 AM
Heh, I wonder how people will react to this. (http://kotaku.com/5159936/japan-is-getting-three-new-dsi-colors)

Now THAT'S the kind of Blue I [tornado fang]ing WANT!

Quote from: Protoman Blues on February 25, 2009, 08:39:07 AM
Heh, I wonder how people will react to this. (http://kotaku.com/5159936/japan-is-getting-three-new-dsi-colors)

Seeing hot pink brings up my hopes for a red DSi. >.>;

Quote from: Protoman Blues on February 25, 2009, 08:39:07 AM
Heh, I wonder how people will react to this. (http://kotaku.com/5159936/japan-is-getting-three-new-dsi-colors)

Another good reason to wait bit before I get mine.

I won't be buying a DSi for quite a long time. My belief is they should've gotten it right the FIRST time.

The DSi can attract child predators? (http://kotaku.com/5165341/police-warning-parents-about-dsi)

Seriously, I lol'd.

Man that is almost as bad as that one Grand Theft Auto acticle. XD

QuoteExplains, Sergeant Holland, "If the only website you want your kids to go to is YouTube, you go into the parental lockout feature, put in YoutTube's URL, and that's the only website your kids will be able to go to."

Phew, because there's nothing inappropriate on YouTube at all. Nothing.

And these are the people that the techno-illiterate trust to protect their children?

Morons.

I'm curious to know if anyone bothered to check whether or not the DSi's web browser can upload photos stored on the system at all.  Knowing Nintendo, I just assumed it to not be the case.  Can you really get a DSi photo onto ImageShack without the use of a computer, or is the news media just ignoring system capabilities again the same as they did with PictoChat?
(a stalker who is within 300 feet of your child does not need the aid of technology to capture them)

Supposedly confirmed via the Club Nintendo event where Platinum members got a chance to see/use the DSi first hand, reps told people that the DSi will have it's own VC.

You can read about it here (http://gonintendo.com/?p=76571), here (http://gonintendo.com/?p=76656), and here (http://kotaku.com/5181298/dsi-to-get-virtual-console-for-game-boy-games) (I'm sure there are more sites with this story, but these are the only ones I'm gonna post. 8D)


So, what do you guys think? Sure possibility? Or complete bull [parasitic bomb]?

EDIT: Read the Editor's Note! (http://ds.kombo.com/article.php?artid=7007)

Despite all the stories, I'll wait and see.

However, if it IS true...
...
...
WOOT!
Rockman World series on my DSi! 8D

Capcom has to talk with Nintendo about releasing the Rockman World series first before that could happen. ;w;

Oh... Right...
...
Why am I thinking of Rockman in Brawl again? O^O

Gamer: Mega Man in Brawl?
Inafune: Nintendo hasn't contacted us...
Gamer: Mega Man in Brawl?
Sakurai: Capcom hasn't contacted us...
Gamer: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Quote from: Vixy on March 24, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
Gamer: Mega Man in Brawl?
Inafune: Nintendo hasn't contacted us...
Gamer: Mega Man in Brawl?
Sakurai: Capcom hasn't contacted us...
Gamer: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Ah 2008. How I miss this. XD

Also, Super Mario Land 2: Six [chameleon sting]ing Golden Coins or GTFO. XD

Downloadable Solar Striker?  SOLD!

Where is my Mega Man Mania, Capcom?!

Quote from: RMX on March 24, 2009, 05:48:41 PM
Where is my Mega Man Mania, Capcom?!

When Duke Nukem Forever comes out.


Would playing Boktai as a download be considered a paradox?

It'd be impossible unless Konami patches it =/ (good thing I have them all already)

Quote from: RMX on March 24, 2009, 05:48:41 PM
Where is my Mega Man Mania, Capcom?!

In your DSi, waiting for you to pay $5 for each of them 8D

Anyways, give me Mario Tennis GB and Mario Tennis Advance Tour (never got to play it), and all will be good. If they can somehow manage to get games from other portables even better (Neo Geo Pocket please).

if they dont fix the buttons so i can use X and A instead of A and B i dont care
it's really uncomfortable for games like MMZ

Quote from: Taiyo on March 24, 2009, 10:39:58 PM
It'd be impossible unless Konami patches it =/ (good thing I have them all already)

That's what I mean, you're playing a game that can't be played due to it requiring outside materials, and yet you are indeed playing the game. Hence, paradox.

I really hope this is true. Cause it'd be the deciding reason on whether or not I buy a DSi

Quote from: Ballade on March 24, 2009, 10:12:51 PM
When Duke Nukem Forever comes out.

i just remembered i was going to go preorder that..

Quote from: Jericho on March 24, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Ah 2007. How I miss this. XD

Fix'd. 2008 was when the game came out...the "pre game" madness (which was often, even better than the game itself) was largely before that!

You should remember the craziness over at Smash Boards even better than I, Jeri...you were able to get in on that crazy server more than I was!  8D


Any way...good stuff, I suppose. Though, part of me really wishes that Ninty are other companies would perhaps use this as a means to do more than just distribute roms legally.

After all, for those of us, like me, who still have their GBA Players and/or DS Phats/Lights on tap...I'mma need more than just the same stuff I could possibly get by scrounging around at various Gamestops or Ebay auctions, for possibly under 20 bucks, easily.

Hmm...Yeah I hope this is true, and if it is, i'd definitely be 80% convinced to get a DSi since well, there is afair bit of GBC games I missed out on (even though at that age, I had loads of fun via Snes, DC, PSX, Emulators and so on~).

Quote from: Viewtiful Ben on March 25, 2009, 03:32:44 AM
I'mma need more than just the same stuff I could possibly get by scrounging around at various Gamestops or Ebay auctions, for possibly under 20 bucks, easily.

Hahahaha, yes, this too~

You know what would help seal the deal? If they come out and say "Yes, this is true" and "we've been secretly translating Mother 3 and we're releasing it on the DSi shop to download".

Like it matters anyway, I'm getting a DSi thanks to busted DSlite (but they'll never know XD)

Quote from: KomboEDITOR'S NOTE: Nintendo called Kombo up today and requested that it be known that some of the above information is not officially announced for North America and as a result, may not be completely accurate.

Specifically, they told us that you will not be able to play GB and GBA games directly from your SD memory card. Also, downloadable GB and GBA games have not officially been announced for North America (only Japan, so far).

So, apparently, It's Japan only... for now.

nationalism kills.

Quote from: Ballade on March 25, 2009, 04:42:57 PM
"we've been secretly translating Mother 3 and we're releasing it on the DSi shop to download".

that would be a genius move.

Quote from: Satoryu on March 26, 2009, 09:56:41 PM
that would be a genius move.

And how. Years of hatred of NoA's treatment of the series washed away with one sentence. Imagine the net rejoicing that'd ensue. XD

Quote from: Kyouya Garyuu on March 26, 2009, 06:34:14 PM
So, apparently, It's Japan only... for now.

Eh, considering how long it took for NoA to get the freakin' VC and WiiWare things going, I'm not too surprised. They're cautious, which can be a good thing, but they're always a bit TOO cautious, so they end up being later than they normally would be.

Quote from: Jericho on March 26, 2009, 10:28:30 PM
And how. Years of hatred of NoA's treatment of the series washed away with one sentence. Imagine the net rejoicing that'd ensue. XD

I can top it still, "We also have top secret information about Mother 4" or "We've also confirmed that Mother 1, 2, and 3 will be put onto the DS in one single package and will be translated for countries outside of Japan, also, we're BSing and Earthbound and Earthbound Zero will be on the Virtual Console".

How many fangasms would occur if all the above were combined? O_o

Quote from: Ballade on March 26, 2009, 10:32:25 PM
"We also have top secret information about Mother 4"

Itoi said himself a Mother 4 isn't planned. 3 is the end.

Quote from: Ballade on March 26, 2009, 10:32:25 PM
Eh, considering how long it took for NoA to get the freakin' VC and WiiWare things going, I'm not too surprised.

come again? there's never been a delay for those. Virtual Console was even available at launch.

Quote from: Sparky on March 26, 2009, 10:48:30 PM
Itoi said himself a Mother 4 isn't planned. 3 is the end.

For now young one. I remain optimistic.

Quote from: Jericho on March 26, 2009, 11:03:29 PM
For now young one. I remain optimistic.

No, seriously. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ebFsRCFTc)

Nothing like forcing out sequels to turn a series to [parasitic bomb].

Quote from: Satoryu on March 26, 2009, 10:59:23 PM
come again? there's never been a delay for those. Virtual Console was even available at launch.

You sure about that? I remember a small delay between the launch and the first VC game. I think it was about a week or so. Plus, there's also the fact that it took them forever to get the News and Weather channel up and running, even though they were sitting on the main menu since launch.

Quote from: Tickle Buffalo on March 27, 2009, 05:12:21 AM
Nothing like forcing out sequels to turn a series to [parasitic bomb].

Not like you'd care about it.

Finally >BD Now i can play again with Megaman World. :D
If not, i will kicked my own ass :o.

Quote from: Sparky on March 26, 2009, 11:12:10 PM

No, seriously. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ebFsRCFTc)

It's still a valid point. As is always the case in this industry (or anything else for that matter), opinions/mind sets/interests can be changed, especially if "opportunity" (more like "LOTS OF MONEY") is knocking at the door. I wouldn't be at all surprised if such a thing was the same way with Itoi.

I, and others, had to wait over a decade and some change, before Mother 3 FINALLY came out. Years after the crap that happened to its N64/64DD iteration seemed to put the final nail in the coffin.

Another decade or so wouldn't kill us. I can just make sure my children share the love!  8D

Quote from: Shinichameleon / Nayim on March 27, 2009, 08:41:03 AM
Finally >BD Now i can play again with Megaman World. :D
If not, i will kicked my own ass :o.

The answer:

Quote from: Vixy on March 24, 2009, 03:09:24 PM
Capcom has to talk with Nintendo about releasing the Rockman World series first before that could happen. ;w;

Quote from: Vixy on March 24, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
Gamer: Mega Man in Brawl?
Inafune: Nintendo hasn't contacted us...
Gamer: Mega Man in Brawl?
Sakurai: Capcom hasn't contacted us...
Gamer: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Ok, I don't see a thread for this, so here I go.

I got the DSi today (fairly empty in the store, so I must've missed the craziness XD), and so far, it's pretty cool. It's a decent music player, but it requires MP4's to work. It can also record sounds and stuff (up to 10 seconds), so that's kind of cool to record something, and you can also screw around with the speed and the depth, so you can go deep and fast, deep and slow, high and fast, or high and slow. It's kinda fun. Impractical, but fun. You can also close the DSi while earphones are plugged in, and actually listen to the music, which is nice. The quality IS pretty bad, but then again, it's also being based off of the speakers in the first place, and I doubt you can force theater-quality surround sound into something the size of two DS games stacked on top of each other and the length of 1 and a 1/4 of a credit card.

The Web browsers pretty nice. The two main problems (which aren't THAT big of a deal) are: the lack to download things (I know there's a lack of memory on the DSi, but they could AT LEAST let you try to download things onto your SD Card), and the ability to run flash programs (the very least they could have let it work on YouTube, even the Wii lets you watch videos on YouTube). These two things would make the PSP/Wii combo that would be just awesome (The PSP can't handle Flash well, while the Wii can't download things). There may be an update to this, but that may happen later (they also need to start ditching the "Block" system for freakin' actual sizes like MB, GB, and such).

The camera feature is pretty nice, nothing to really comment on because the closest thing to it is a phone camera. It is cool that you can manipulate stuff that you have though, so it's kinda cool to have a mini-photo shop on the thing.

My two biggest grips though, are the power button and the volume button. It's nothing major, but it's still a "why?" thing. The power button is below the D-Pad, and placed far enough down that you won't actually hit the button if your thumb slips (or at least, not actually press down on it), but the problem with it is that when you DO hit it, a simple press sends you back to the main menu. Granted this is kinda cool since if you want to go to the main menu while playing a game or something, you can press it and go back. The problem is, it's a double edged-sword. If something DOES tap it, you exit the game completely. Luckily it's solved already thanks to it's placement, so even though it's a problem, it's still not a glaring one. As for the volume button, it's located on the left side, right above the D-pad. The problem with it is that you have to press the buttons to control the volume. Whatever happened with the wheel or the sliding thing? I thought those worked pretty well, you could adjust it just enough to get the particular volume you want. Granted the buttons come close to those volumes, it still would've been nice because if you need to mute the game in a flash, you could easily push the sliding thing all the way in a second, rather than rapidly tap the button, and it works the other way as well, when you WANT the volume up, you have to rapidly push the button rather than just slide the thing in the same amount of time it takes to hit a button. Again, these problems aren't anything major, but it still just makes me wonder WHY they made it like that?

All in all, it's pretty cool. It's kinda like taking the Wii and the DS and molding the two together, which is a pretty good start for the next generation of hand helds, and the idea's are going to be piling up. If you have a DS or a DS Lite, some cash to blow, and no reason to use the second slot that was lost, go ahead and get it. If you don't have the extra 100+ dollars or you have a good use for the GBA slot, then don't bother, because the difference really isn't that great. I switched mine out because the touch screen was screwed up, and I already had a giant stack of games to trade in anyway (the actual amount of cash I paid was about 3 bucks), so I figured, "why not?" There are some DS games I do want to play, and it may be interesting to see just how Nintendo handles the DSi in the future since it can be upgraded.

I like the blue better in person.

I got the black one, but I don't think either of them have the "shiny gloss" that the DS Lite had. It's really rough on the outside, which is another "why did they do that" thing :\

They lost any chance of a buy from me when they said old games won't support WPA. The only reason I'd get one is so I can take my network off WEP because it's the only thing Nintendo's PoS  DS configuration can accept.

I did a review of the DSi, but it wasn't nearly as detailed as yours.

I would agree with the volume, but I didn't have a problem with it.

The whole "Not being able to watch YouTube" thing still irks me. Nintendo should fix that.

I still don't think I'll be buying one any time soon, even with all this in mind.

The Lites are gonna go cheaper now. C:

Quote from: LazyMan on April 06, 2009, 05:24:06 AM
I did a review of the DSi, but it wasn't nearly as detailed as yours.

I would agree with the volume, but I didn't have a problem with it.

The whole "Not being able to watch YouTube" thing still irks me. Nintendo should fix that.

I'm infamous on several other sites for "Wall of Text" posts, so that's why I put a lot of details into stuff :P

I've got my DS Lite, it's good enough for me.

Quote from: Ballade on April 06, 2009, 05:26:04 AM
I'm infamous on several other sites for "Wall of Text" posts, so that's why I put a lot of details into stuff :P

a tl;dr poster isn't that bad, rather it properly defines who's a good poster, a whiner, or a troll.

Anyways, on DSi.

I might get it, but I'll probably wait till the price goes down.

I got mine at midnight on launch day to try and beat any rush/early shortage.
...There was nobody there at midnight.  XD

So I got the blue one, mostly because it goes with my original blue DS to fit the Megaman color scheme nicely. I wanted one because lugging around my PSP to work can be a hassle in my pocket, since I have that original model and a protective case around it. That thing is not pocket friendly. So the DSi feels like a quarter of the size and does the same things, plus more.

I don't care for the mp4 conversion, especially trying to find a good free program online. Best I could do was one that lets you convert 30 as a trial. So I've been able to uninstall and reinstall over and over to repeat the process. It'll do for now, while I only have a 2GB SD card. I do however love the visualizations for the music player. Grabbing coins with Mario can be very addicting, especially with loud/fast paced tunes. I wish the Star Fox one would let you do barrel rolls with the L/R buttons, though. :/ I also love the Excitebike, rain puddle and lightning ones.

I've always noticed issues with the DS and headphones in terms of sound quality. When playing games on the DSi, I still hear that familiar droning hum. But with music on my card, I honestly don't notice that much of a drop in quality and the hum is gone. So I was pleasantly surprised and will be happy to get use out of it as a music player.

Probably will get some good use out of the camera, although I haven't taken many pics yet.

I never got a DS Lite because I personally felt the new "brightness" of the screen also ruined the colors of some games. I've only thrown in TWEWY for comparison so far and I see the same color problems that I knew DS Lites had. Certain colors just look so off, regardless of what brightness setting you put it on. I know I might just be too used to my original model, but I swear there's something wrong with the color adjustment on Lites and now the DSi. That's one thing that really bugs me.

But for $160, it's worth it so far.

Im typing this on my new blue DSi. I like it.

Quote from: Turian on April 06, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
Im typing this on my new blue DSi. I like it.

Turian (IP hidden) "Opera/9.50 (Nintendo DSi; Opera/483; U; en-US)"

Good to know. ^^

The Nintendo DSi
Impressions

Okay, well, I'm awake, now, and I stayed up 'til 3 o'clock in the morning taking this little handheld in and swirling around all of its advantages and disadvantages in my head. Note that this is a Matte Black DSi.

Form:
~It most certainly is "longer and shorter than the DSLite," and it makes the system very portable. The hinges' opening and shutting feel natural, and every external slot or reader is kept far enough inside the machine, with hardly any protrusions (save for the clicking L and R shoulder buttons), and all are placed in intuitive spots. The Microphone is no longer near the bottom; it's located on the hinge. And no, there is no GBA slot.
Function:
~The buttons are improved versions of what the DSLite offered, depending upon your take on "improved." The DSLite's "bubble" buttons are back, and they've been given the Matte finish, too. The center of the D-Pad now caves in a bit more, so that's easier. The L and R shoulder buttons seem sturdy, though they click when you press them. I hope that means they're contacting better and are sturdier. The big difference this time, though, is the power button! It's no longer on the side of the DSLite where you're afraid you might accidentally slide your hand and turn it off, and it's not above the D-Pad where you might try to press up just a liiiiittle too far and BAM, gone. No, this time, the power button is located to the side and near the bottom left corner of the touch screen. Somebody did their homework, because that's the least-used section of the touch screen, and when it is, it's usually for some moderately-sized but prominent button. Also, if you quickly press the power button, the system resets. If you hold it, the DSi powers down.
Communication:
~The days of shy, quiet DS' are no more. The DSi's Internet menu now has 3 "Advanced Settings" for WPA and other very secure types of wireless connections. I think the local Wi-Fi communication range was boosted a bit, but I can't really tell, right now; all I have to go on is the relative range from my router compared to the DSi. Even then, it's only like 2 feet of difference. The three indicator lights (communication, external power, and system power) are a bit confusing at first, but you'll easily learn what they mean through experience.
Ergonomics:
~Now for the system's size, though, it has probably only eliminated the cramped hands feeling for people with smaller hands. People with far larger hands (like myself) will still need to purchase a grip of some sort. If you do not have the desire or cash to do so, though, you could put the base of your palms at the bottom corners of the DSi and have the bulks of your index fingers press the L and R shoulder buttons, but this will cost you reaction and execution time.
Power and Light:
~Did I mention the screens were brighter? Holy cow, I have to set it on 2 just to keep it at a normal brightness. Also to save battery power, too, because the DSi has less average play time per charge. Oh, and be warned; if you're wanting to setup your DSi right out of the box, you need to be quick about it; they only barely charged it so they could test it out, and the system will give you a quick camera tutorial once you power it up.
Display:
~The screens are bigger! Yea! ...well, sorta yea. As you might imagine, this stretches the image slightly, and on flickering games (e.g., Kirby Superstar Ultra), you'll be able to see horizontal display lines. That's still not enough of a detractor, though, because the larger screens improve the experience (and give your brain more room to work with spacing and timing). It will make games like Elite Beat Agents or Sonic Rush's Special Stages slightly harder since you have to move more, but the size increase helps a ton of other games.
Sound:
~Stunningly good sound considering the two tiny holes out of which the waves have to travel. I'm not kidding; if you've ever bubbled in an answer on a Scantron test form, the speakers are as big as an answer bubble. It's no hindrance, though, as if you have the volume all the way on maximum and you turn the DSi on, every sector of your brain will know it's on. The DSi's speaker won't overtake a restaurant dull roar, but I imagine this will fare better than the DSLite and Phat.
Ease of Use:
~So, I'll go on ahead and say it; the DSi's menus and interface are almost EXACTLY like the Wii's. Certainly the settings menus. When you start up the handheld, you still have to tap the screen once to confirm...whatever, but then you're greeted with a single-line iPod- or Photo Album-like Scrolling Boxes menu that has all of your applications and games, starting you off on your last used application.
Cosmetics:
~I was skeptical at first, but this Matte finish idea was a good idea. I'm a bit disappointed at Nintendo's choice of colors, though. I mean, really, a light blue? Black was fine, but make two other colors like some sort of red or pink and then a teal so you can please the blue and green crowds. I wouldn't say the outside feels like sandpaper; more like very polished and scraped composite board. It's a bit rough, but not so rough that it can't slide out of your pocket or makes you feel uncomfortable. And yes, it does very well at eliminating smudges and fingerprints. Not 100%, but honestly, I think this is about as close as you'll get.

Final Synopsis: 4/5
A surprisingly worthwhile redesign of a solid handheld system. I'm afraid they're pushing the DSi's quirky little features like the camera and the music player a little too hard, though, especially since they're a bit lackluster. The AAC formatting for music is not all that user-friendly, and the downloadable free Opera browser is not Flash, Audio, or Video capable, not to mention it's zoom problems. No flash on the camera, so it's not like you'll be taking pictures in the dark or at distances, on top of the poor display quality of the photos. That aside, the features are still fun to horse around with. Bird and Beans (it's Pyoro 1 and 2, guys) was definitely fun for $2 (you are given 1000 DSi Points when you sign in before Oct. 5th), and the lasting appeal and success of this handheld will truly come into play if and when downloadable GB/GBC/GBA games start cropping up, not to mention original titles.

If your DSLite's hinge is broken or the shoulder buttons are about to buy the farm or is giving you hand cramps, or you're still using a DSPhat, it's time to make the switch. If you don't care at all about the downloadable games, though, stick with what you've got (at least until the price on this bad boy drops a bit).

UPDATE: And apparently, you DO get 160 Club Nintendo Coins ($170 MSRP - 1000 "free" DSi points/$10) for registering your DSi, but I already linked my Club Nintendo account to my DSi, and I didn't get them! Ugh!

Sadly, the one thing I was hoping for wasn't changed. Namely:

QuoteThe DSLite's "bubble" buttons are back

Blast.

Bubble Button? I think I have been quite adapted to that.

Indeed, they're actually quite comfortable and intuitive.

Turns out that I am going to have to buy some sort of grip for this system, though. Probably off some online store, too.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and about the Coins thing...I put in the number on the paper, and not the one on the back of the DSi.

...durr.

If I'm lucky, i'll have this thing before the 1000 DSi Point promotion is over.

I wish those damn buttons were improved to be more like the DSPhat's and the GBA SP's. My DS Lite's buttons don't really feel sturdy.

so basically, it was a waste of effort on ninty's part, that they could have put elsewhere.

Quote from: Flame on April 09, 2009, 12:21:56 AM
so basically, it was a waste of effort on ninty's part, that they could have put elsewhere.

Almost.

The external camera should have been either better, or make photo-sharing easier and recognize more file types.
The music player needed to have been able to play MP3's.
And the download service is just off to a slow start, no official word on GB/GBC/GBA games.

So, almost. But it has its advantages, and could be salvaged.

The reason the DSi appears, at launch, to be a wasted effort is that Nintendo launched the thing too damn quickly.  It has twice the CPU speed and four times the RAM of the original/Lite, and enhanced/exclusive cartridges are a possibility (think GB to GBC), but none of that's ready and so that only leaves the mediocre online game selection for the foreseeable future, unless the sound/picture toys appeal to you.

Quote from: Aldo on April 06, 2009, 11:55:00 PM
and it's not above the D-Pad where you might try to press up just a liiiiittle too far and BAM, gone.

For the life of me I still can't imagine how anyone does this.  My hands are gi-hugic (ring size of 14), and I've never had such an issue.  Neither has the future Mrs., who is tiny, but before meeting me hadn't touched a game since Mario Kart 64.

Quote from: Ballade on April 06, 2009, 05:04:18 AM
You can also close the DSi while earphones are plugged in, and actually listen to the music, which is nice. The quality IS pretty bad, but then again, it's also being based off of the speakers in the first place, and I doubt you can force theater-quality surround sound into something the size of two DS games stacked on top of each other and the length of 1 and a 1/4 of a credit card.

Well, that's why we get decent quality ear phones.

I find it funny that people are surprised that the music works while the system is closed, though.  Closing the DS is considered an input the same as the buttons and touch screen are, the system can do anything it wants in response to that.  See previous games that search for other players while closed.

And of course, anyone with a flash card knows that Moonshell has had DSi music's ass kicked long before it was even conceived.  If Nintendo insists on sticking with the AAC format, they could at least be friendly enough to point their customers to a decent converter.  It really blows that they stopped supporting MP3, considering that's pretty much expected of any other music app on the face of the Earth.

QuoteNintendo's Masato Kuwahara, project lead on the Nintendo DSi hardware, revealed that games playable only on the latest revision Nintendo DS were in the works at this year's GDC (http://kotaku.com/5184277/nintendo-plans-nintendo-dsi-enhanced-game-cards-with-dsi+only-features-dsi+only-games). Those first DSi-only games will hit this fall, sources tell Kotaku.

Software that will only work on a Nintendo DSi will join titles playable on a Nintendo DS or DS Lite that also feature DSi-specific enhanced capabilities, like Ubisoft's Jam Sessions 2 and My Healthy Cooking Coach. Games and apps that will only be playable on a DSi will be visually distinct from past product, sources say.

Those DSi-only games will be packaged in all-white game cases, making them stand out from the standard dark gray cases of currently available Nintendo DS games. Those cases will sport a warning that the software is only compatible with the Nintendo DSi. DSi-only game cards themselves will use a similar white plastic, but it's unclear if those re-colored cards will have any difficulty fitting into a DS or DS Lite cartridge slot.

Another unknown is if DSi-only software will take advantage of the expanded tech specs unique to the Nintendo DSi.

It appears that, like Wii MotionPlus, that Nintendo will be letting third-party publishers take the lead in offering DSi-only software. Nintendo itself has offered plenty of downloadable DSiWare games that are system specific, but it has yet to announce any DSi-only retail games as part of its future lineup. Still a risky proposition, considering the comparatively smaller userbase of the DSi platform and the possibility for consumer confusion.

We contacted Nintendo for comment on the introduction of DSi-only games this year, but the company did not respond to requests before publishing.

Link to Article (http://kotaku.com/5349422/first-dsi+only-games-hit-stores-this-fall-with-distinct-look)

Now then, thoughts on the matter?

They better bring some good DSi games or I'll never get one.

A 2D Metroid would be a reason to get one. Or ZX3.

After hearing folks half tease that some form of Shantae would be getting a spotlight feature next month and all this DSi talk, I really have to take notice of this recent string of news.

More games are always a good thing.

I hope not, I still don't have a DSi D:

Quote from: Acid on September 01, 2009, 12:23:27 AM
They better bring some good DSi games or I'll never get one.

They better not so I don't have to get one.

Give us Metroid Dread you bastards. Then again, I get the feeling something akin to Metroid Prime Hunters is more likely.

Just to elaborate on my last post of course:

Article on GoNintendo (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=95009)

QuoteCould Shantae 2 really be Nintendo Power's big DSiWare reveal?

As we showed you guys last week, Nintendo Power is teasing a big DSiWare title to be revealed in their next issue. When I posted that story, I added my own two cents, stating that I wanted the title to be Shantae. Now take a look at what WayForward has updated their Twitter feed with...

Nintendo Power teasing a MAJOR DSiWare release in the next issue? AND it will make many gamers "very, very happy"? Hmmm.

Why on earth would WayForward do that if they weren't involved with the game?! It doesn't necessarily mean that this is Shantae, but there's definitely a good chance.

On top of that little tidbit, check out what WayForward has as their current Twitter icon. It was posted up on July 11th, but I'm still holding out hope.

(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/sh_ss_GBA_01.jpg)

I don't know if I can keep my fingers crossed until the next issue!

Quote from: Fxeni on September 01, 2009, 12:36:37 AM
Give us Metroid Dread you bastards. Then again, I get the feeling something akin to Metroid Prime Hunters is more likely.

I have a feeling that if Dread is still happening, it won't be until around or after Other M.

Quote from: Jericho on September 01, 2009, 12:21:58 AM
Link to Article (http://kotaku.com/5349422/first-dsi+only-games-hit-stores-this-fall-with-distinct-look)

Now then, thoughts on the matter?

Frankly, this just makes me dislike the DSi even more, I just don't see the point of all its extra crap, I think I'll just stick to my good ol' "classic" DS.....unless Spirit Tracks is DSi exclusive, but I prefer not to buy a system just for a certain game.

Meh, I'll might buy the DSi for the sake of collection. :x

But seeing Shanante again might be a big thing, or seeing something  that's been dead for awhile could appear. Suprise Us Nintendo!

Quote from: Gaia on September 01, 2009, 12:48:07 AM
Meh, I'll might buy the DSi for the sake of collection. :x

That's the reason I got it. >.>

Yeah, but sometimes a thing might cause me to actually wanna use it occasionally, like a clock that seems to be built into everything these days.

Hmm... Not liking this...
Still... Well wait and see how it plays out before I decide if I want a DSi...

Am I the only person sick of poking stuff?

Quote from: Keno on September 01, 2009, 09:18:24 PM
Am I the only person sick of poking stuff?

...the [tornado fang]?

He's referring to the stylus.

more like trolling on it.

Quote from: Acid on September 01, 2009, 09:32:28 PM
He's referring to the stylus.

That was really bad then. It's like we did the timewarp and it's 2004 again. XD

Well, you do poke the screen though, so it was actually an accurate way of describing the touch screen XD

Also, the first (non-Nintendo) DSi only games:
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=95157
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=95089

Now to see what Nintendo has in store.

Monster Finder: Digimon all over again (I still remember that little toy that "detects" Digimon in a electric appliance, whatever it was called).

I'll just play that for the hell of it.

I just hope that Heart Gold and Soul Silver aren't going to be DSi only. >o;

Quote from: Nodoka on September 02, 2009, 12:08:06 AM
I just hope that Heart Gold and Soul Silver aren't going to be DSi only. >o;

They're not; they have Pal Park in them.

Sparky's right. The only thing I've heard of so far regarding them is that they might be DSi enhanced.

Triple-confirmed as I remember reading about HG/SS Pal Park myself.

As for DSi-exclusives......good.  IF they come up with something worthwhile.  See, the DSi is not simply DS + cameras.  It is a more powerful system (double speed, 4x RAM).  But since Nintendo ninja-launched it with no warning, nobody actually knows that.  I doubt the first batch of exclusives will be anything to write home about, but either way, it's a start.

If I see a Rockman DSi, for the sake of RPM, I MUST buy it~ (http://lol.rockmanpm.com/aww-smiley.gif) </wii>

That's assuming that Capcom has anything Rockman planned currently. Beyond the crossover game of course. XD

I think I might go with Colorware for my DSi and get a Blues themed one!

Quote from: Sparky on September 02, 2009, 12:13:07 AM
They're not; they have Pal Park in them.

You just saved me from a pit of despair.

Eh, the only reason why I got my DSi is because my DS Lite's screen broke and I managed to get it in to Game Stop before it completely stopped being useful.

If they release some good DSi only games, great, if not, oh well.

Finally, games that will take advantage of the DSi's doubled CPU and quadrupled RAM when compared to the DS Lite.

Funny how people seem to forget that tidbit and focus more on the camera.

Well it is a camera; focus is what it does best. 8D

Quote from: LazyMan on September 03, 2009, 02:37:08 AM
Funny how people seem to forget that tidbit and focus more on the camera.

From the screenshots I've seen, at least one of those announced games will be doing exactly that as well.

Like I said, I didn't expect the first batch to be anything special.  But it's a start.

Quote from: Pringer X on September 02, 2009, 04:10:22 AM
Eh, the only reason why I got my DSi is because my DS Lite's screen broke and I managed to get it in to Game Stop before it completely stopped being useful.

In my case it was my original brick DS (didn't find the Lite worthwhile).  Top screen cracked majorly, greying out about half of it, no way in hell I could sneak a trade-in.

Posted on: September 03, 2009, 06:47:52 PM

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I suppose we all hoped that notions of the DSi being region-locked would be specific to downloadables.  Not the case, however, as IGN confirms:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/102/1027349p1.html

Rather hilarious is that this renders the "enhanced" cartridges as being more widely available on the previous hardware than on the current.  Way to go, Nintendo!

You know, if you don't want people to hack your console, you shouldn't be a [sonic slicer] to your rule-abiding consumers.  Their excuse is internet connections and parental controls, which is bullshit; there's no reason either one couldn't be worked around.

Didn't we know this like, when the DSi was announced or something?

Yea, but the difference was that downloadable software were locked to specific regions.

This time, we're talking about actual DSi cartridges. o.o;

I know, I always understood it as both cartridges and downloadable.

Quote from: Hypershell on September 25, 2009, 01:06:23 AM
You know, if you don't want people to hack your console, you shouldn't be a [sonic slicer] to your rule-abiding consumers.  Their excuse is internet connections and parental controls, which is bullshit; there's no reason either one couldn't be worked around.

LoL, no offense, but people are going to hack no matter what Nintendo does, even if you and I don't agree with region lock-outs. 

No kidding (do you think I'd give up Magic Fish Mix?).  But this only encourages them further.  I'm not saying one shouldn't hack, but Nintendo obviously hates it whether piracy is involved or not, and moves like this are counter-productive to that point.

Perhaps they think that obsessive gamers will buy a Japanese DSi as well.

New DSi announced. Launching before the years end. (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=101766)

The only new thing right now is 4-inch screens, with a price at 18900 yen (same as the first DSi).

Maybe these screens will be either blurry or sharper, depends on what kind of screens and tweaks they use. o.o

Quote from: Vixy on October 26, 2009, 09:57:34 PM
New DSi announced. Launching before the years end. (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=101766)

What is this? I don't even-

I still remember when the Atari 2600 was big enough to fit beer in it (still is!), this will be the Atari of the handhelds if Nintendo keeps this up. Only it will hold your deck boxes instead of beer.

And then there's that whole "Nvidia new chip" story talking about ANOTHER DS.

Better be the DS2, because if it's another DS/Lite/i, I'm going to scream.

Gah  why improve every two years when you could just completly revamp it in 4 years?

Well, the fact that screen size is the only difference is actually comforting.  When the speculation-happy press reports "possible new applications" for such larger screens, ie book reading and video, it makes you think they're actually upping the resolution.  Which means a functionally different model.  Which it is ENTIRELY too soon for.

But, if this is just an "old granny can see now" DSi, fine.

This is really confusing, I mean I'm going to get a DSi for christmas but I definetly don't think this new DSi is going to be out in the US by then.

Bigger screens with same resolution huh? Doubt it's worth it.

So yeah, I just saw this and all I have to say is "huh?" If this has anything to do with the nVidia Tegra speculation going around a few weeks back and this becomes a stealth DS2, I wouldn't know what to say. If it's a new spec DSi, then I have to wonder why Nintendo is seemingly outing another different but not different product.

Eh, I don't know if the Tegra is related to this or not.

...might be, if the resolution is supposed to improve. And it'd give Nintendo a good test-run of what Nvidia does compared to ATI.

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_dsill.jpg)

Nintendo Announces Big Screen DSi (http://kotaku.com/5392421/nintendo-announces-big-screen-dsi)

I kinda like the color as well!  XD

Also, an appropriate sound effect!   8D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysnM407rjE)

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Three new colors: (at least for Japan) Please get Forest Green, US

(http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_darkbrown.jpg)
(http://cache-08.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_naturalwhite.jpg)
(http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_winered.jpg)

Looks like I have another handheld to add to my collection.

Kotaku's Comparison, Copypasta'd

Screen Size
• DSi LL: 4.2 inches
• DSi: 3.2 inches
• DS Lite: 3 inches

Hardware Size
• DSi LL (across): 161mm
• DSi (across): 137mm
• DS Lite (across): 133mm

• DSi LL (front to back): 94.4mm
• DSi (front to back): 74.9mm
• DS Lite (front to back): 73.9mm

• DSi LL (thickness): 21.2mm
• DSi (thickness): 18.9mm
• DS Lite: 21.5mm

Touch Pen Size
• DSi LL (short pen): 96mm
DSi LL (long pen): 129.3mm
• DSi: 92mm
• DS Lite: 87.5mm

Weight
• DSi LL (including Battery Pack, short Touch Pen): 314g
• DSi (including Battery Pack, Touch Pen): 214g
• DS Lite (including Battery Pack, Touch Pen, GBA Cover): 218g

Charging Time
• DSi LL: 3 hours
• DSi: 2 hours 30 mins.
• DS Lite: 3 hours

Battery Life
• DSi LL (Lowest Brightness): 13~17 hours
• DSi (Lowest Brightness): 9~14 hours
• DS Lite (Lowest Brightness): 15~19 hours

• DSi LL (Second Lowest Brightness): 11~14 hours
• DSi (Second Lowest Brightness): 8~12 hours
• DS Lite (Second Lowest Brightness): 10~15 hours

• DSi LL (Middle Brightness): 9~11 hours
• DSi (Middle Brightness): 6~9 hours
• DS Lite (Middle Brightness): Not setting such exists on DS Lite

• DSi LL (Second Highest Brightness): 6~8 hours
• DSi (Second Highest Brightness): 4~6 hours
• DS Lite (Second Highest Brightness): 7~11 hours

• DSi LL (Highest Brightness): 4~5 hours
• DSi (Highest Brightness): 3~5 hours
• DS Lite (Highest Brightness): 5~8 hours

Supported Software
• DSi LL: Nintendo DS, DSi, DSiWare
• DSi: Nintendo DS, DSi, DSiWare
• DS Lite: Nintendo DS, Game Boy Advance

Input Outport Slots
• DSi LL: DS Card Slot, SD Memory Card Slot, AC Adaptor, Headphones, Mic
• DSi: DS Card Slot, SD Memory Card Slot, AC Adaptor, Headphones, Mic
• DS Lite: DS Card Slot, Game Boy Advance Slot, AC Adaptor, Headphones, Mic

(http://i35.tinypic.com/k3nji8.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/v46w4l.jpg)

It's a good thing I waited on getting a DSi. This is right up my alley.

Wine Red looks sexy.

Should have saved resources for a new handheld, not a lame upgrade.

Oh wait...

Nintendo's Revenue and Profits Plummet - Destructioid.com (http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-s-revenue-and-profits-plummet-153498.phtml)

Nevermind, it all makes sense now.

...So it's as big as a DS Phat?

Hmm, bigger, a color I like, and a better battery life. Yeah, I'll get this instead of an i whenever NoA brings it to America.

As expected an old-eyes DSi, nothing more nothing less.  I'm happy with the smoother fit into my pocket, seeings how the DSi is in and of itself a larger screen size than the original/Lite.  But if you think 256x192 merits a 4-inch screen size, more power to you.

Wine Red, yum.  <3 I'm glad I didn't buy a DSi for my B-Day. everything seems to be getting revamps in size lately...

Hmm does anyone have a good guess of when this will be out in the US?

Quote from: Sakura on October 30, 2009, 12:40:38 AM
Hmm does anyone have a good guess of when this will be out in the US?

Early 2010, it seems. (http://kotaku.com/5392865/dsi-xl-coming-to-america-in-early-2010?skyline=true&s=x)

Hmm maybe I can wait until after christmas to get one, I just hope my DSLite hinges can last til then.

What is this I don't even...

A FOURTH DS. That's ridiculous. I hope the resolution is improved; the larger touch screen would make some games easier, and others harder. For instance, you'd get a better result on "slider" games such as golf games or Bowser Punch-ing.

At least there's not iLL exclusive games.
...so far.

Say, if I wind up short on Club points one year, I could get this! :D

Hmm... *huggles his DSLite for now*
Though... This new one does intrigue me...

Quote from: Aldo on October 30, 2009, 01:12:01 AM
At least there's not iLL exclusive games.
...so far.

There will be none.  The LL/XL is feature-wise identical to the regular DSi.  Same screen resolution, too.  The only difference is size, a fatty second stylus, better battery life, and some DSiWare pack-ins.

not sure if want.

Like I said, they should have just waited for an enchancemeant, im not getting this, im gonna waste my money on a PSP.

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2vlwm0z.jpg)

good, better, WHAT THE FUARVGB.

Huh, it looks pretty good despite having a bigger screen and not improving on the internal workings.

Still probably not going to get it, since it's basically a DSi for old people.

Quote from: LazyMan on October 30, 2009, 05:11:51 AM
since it's basically a DSi for people with big hands.

fix'd

BUT IT HAS HUGE SCREENS

VIEW AND SCRATCH! >U<

Oh yeah, the big hands thing, too. That'd be nice...

THEY COULDN'T DO THIS TO BEGIN WITH?

Apparently it will cost $200+.

This is a horrible idea, considering the Wii is $200.

Quote from: STM on October 30, 2009, 08:19:38 AM
Apparently it will cost $200+.

This is a horrible idea, considering the Wii is $200.

[tornado fang]ing WAT?

Worst move evah.

Quote from: GothamAnswer on October 30, 2009, 07:01:33 AM
THEY COULDN'T DO THIS TO BEGIN WITH?

No. You see... Nintendo skips the experimental phase. Which saves them money. When people buy their products Nintendo reads the reviews about their hardware and then improve it, and people buy it again.

That's the Nintendo Money Circle.

It's intelligent for them honestly since they make a great profit off of it, but in terms of getting the best deal as a consumer, forget about it. XD

I think at this rate though, I'll just wait it out for that hopeful DS2 announcement next year. [parasitic bomb] sounds uber.

Quote from: Acid on October 30, 2009, 01:32:46 PM
That's the Nintendo Money Circle.

That's how it's been for a long time now. ^^

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8613/1256906272214.jpg)

Quote from: STM on October 30, 2009, 08:19:38 AM
Apparently it will cost $200+.

This is a horrible idea, considering the Wii is $200.

In Japan. The Japanese prices converted to $s is usually higher than American prices. The PSPGo, for example, costs $249 in the US, and $280 in Japan. And the PSP 3000 costs $169 in America, but $185 in Japan.

Still doesn't make it a waste of money. I imagine they'll peg this [tornado fang]er at $170-190. For larger screens and no other upgrade, that is a waste of money.

I imagine by the time the XL comes out, the DSi will go down in price and the XL will take its old price point.

My money's on Sato's prediction.

Quote from: Sato on October 30, 2009, 05:37:05 AM
fix'd

I resent that.  I have gi-hugic hands and I'm fine holding all three current models of DS.

The only thing I missed going from phat-to-i (Lite was for Mrs. Shell; I hated it anyway due to crappy buttons and power slider on the side) was the GBA slot and the more accessible Start/Select locations.

Quote from: Hypershell on October 30, 2009, 06:08:13 PM
I resent that.  I have gi-hugic hands and I'm fine holding all three current models of DS.

Same thing here, actually. I was just stating the common opinion.

I still prefer holding my Phat over the DS Lite, due to my big hands!  XD

The only reason I couldn't stand the Phat was the unflat edges leaving marks in my hands after prolonged use.

Hmmmm, I never had that issue. 

Either way, I think the DSi XL will sell well.

Quote from: STM on October 30, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
Still doesn't make it a waste of money. I imagine they'll peg this [tornado fang]er at $170-190. For larger screens and no other upgrade, that is a waste of money.

Eh, honestly, I don't see how this is a bigger waste of money than a new DSi color.

This thread needs "It prints money.gif".

(http://www.dandel.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/prints_money.gif)

There we go. Thats much better.

http://kotaku.com/5393749/iwata-dsi-xl-not-just-for-seniors-its-for-watching-others-play-too

Apparently Iwata's spin on the "point" of the DSi XL is that the wider viewing angle is supposed to make it more feasible for others to watch you play.

......seriously?  You know, far be it for me to suggest taking a page out of Sony's book, but a TV output probably would have worked a lot better.  And besides, the original DSi can be viewed at pretty much any angle you want as long as you crank the backlight up.

They're trying so hard to sell this to everyone. Sorry guys, it's pretty much for older people.

And it will sell millions. As much as I don't want it to, it will. Just like I said would happen with Wii Fit (though the positive is that it apparently has some therapy-related medical uses.)

Quote from: Hypershell on November 01, 2009, 08:34:57 PM
a TV output probably would have worked a lot better.

O^O This! Nintendo, why aren't you giving this to us?

It'd probably look a little funky putting two screens on one monitor. When they do a TV output like that on demo kiosks, they tend to use two flat screens.

there could be a toggle between the two screens

Except that would slow down gameplay considerably.

No, Intelligent Systems' NITRO dev kit could output both screens just fine.

http://www.intsys.co.jp/tools/index.html

I have seen and tested one in a Official European Nintendo contest before, and they were blue-colored.
They output on 1 screen. Too bad they don't share them around to people "outside" the company stronghold. >U<

Yay Jumbotron DS~ :3 (http://home.comcast.net/~olimar/DS/jumbotron/)

Mandatory "[tornado fang] YEAH INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS" post goes here.

Quote from: Azure D. Jericho on November 01, 2009, 09:18:01 PM
Mandatory "[tornado fang] YEAH INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS" post goes here.

Paper Tetris Emblem Attack Fire Ware Wars Deluxe~

And Super Metroid. :cookie:

Quote from: Vixy on November 01, 2009, 08:54:41 PM

Quote from: Hypershell on November 01, 2009, 08:34:57 PM
a TV output probably would have worked a lot better.

O^O This! Nintendo, why aren't you giving this to us?

Yes, they should not let emulation become the best option for recording gameplay videos!

I'M STILL WAITING FOR MY DS PLAYER Wii DEVICE, NINTENDO.

Posted on: November 01, 2009, 10:03:42 PM

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Quote from: Hypershell on November 01, 2009, 08:34:57 PM
http://kotaku.com/5393749/iwata-dsi-xl-not-just-for-seniors-its-for-watching-others-play-too

Apparently Iwata's spin on the "point" of the DSi XL is that the wider viewing angle is supposed to make it more feasible for others to watch you play.

Seriously? why the [tornado fang] do i care if others can or cant see me play? I play for MYSELF, not my friends.

Quote from: Flame on November 02, 2009, 04:04:45 AM
I play for MYSELF, not my friends.

Be an Ike, not an Ivan.

Ike plays for his friends, you should too.

(Insert long friendship speech here)

I was going to make an Ike joke, but I couldnt think of the way to put it. XD
No. they can play for themselves.

Quote from: STM on November 02, 2009, 08:59:27 AM
Ike plays for his friends, you should too.

For some reason I can't shake the image of Ike sitting at home, DSi XL in hand, yelling "GREAT!!!  STYLUUUUUS!!!"

There are times when my own brain scares me.

Or if you're doing Pictochat:

"I write for my friends."

Or if playing Pokemon and being a douche:

"You'll get no Mudkips egg from me!"

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