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Reply #200 on: July 19, 2010, 07:05:38 AM
Wow, I go away to be the best man in my best friend's wedding, and lookit all that I missed! 8D

Any way, the main thing I'm hoping is that the 8-bit MM sprite model being showcased indicates that there may be a way to possibly import NES/SNES sprites into the mix. Or at least those those "Xtreme" sprites...  8D



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Reply #201 on: July 19, 2010, 07:21:53 AM
Fresh Belgian US continuity Waffles.
God damn. Its like 1:00 am in the morning and now I want waffles. :|

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #202 on: July 19, 2010, 07:37:08 AM
Wow, I go away to be the best man in my best friend's wedding, and lookit all that I missed! 8D

You might say you were his.....Mega-Man?  AHAHAHAHAHA!  8D

Heh, I've got Best Man duties coming up a year from now.



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Reply #203 on: July 19, 2010, 02:05:59 PM
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I hope one of them does, cause this doesn't seem like anything that major...
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Megaman and crew being robot like "Humanoids"/Cyborgs,
Megaman's early box art,
Wily being Light's assistant just prior to Megaman 1,
Megaman knowing about Protoman being his brother
Almost all of Megaman 7, Including the added "Die wily"
Zero's unification "prophesy" and blueprints,

-Inconsistent names everywhere. They can't even stick to their own stuff.
-The existence of Monsteropolis; that multi faceted land of robot-like humanoids.
-Roll going completely unmentioned and unnamed until MM3/MM4, and even then there are those sources considering her either a new character, or not a robot at all.
-Exclusion of a LOT of facts that were originally written in the manuals.
-Plasma Cannon versus a Rock Buster with Solar Bullets, in fact, MM4 made it sound like the Mega Buster was introduced in 4; it was only upgraded in 4.
-Time Skimmer, Chronos Institute, 37 something years into the future.

-Altered the game instead of properly translating them (X2, X3, X5, MM7, PU, ZERO, Legends, EXE4+.). Resulting in Serges' character being butchered, Vile being killed years ago while it wasn't nearly that long and Vile haunting X in his dreams while he should actually be reviving again and again, Wily being a comrade of X's, Rock being more than a robot when he isn't, ProtoMan outright exclaiming Light is his father when he wants nothing to do with Light, Rock being called "Blue Bomber" instead of "Original" by his copy, everybody making too many puns in an already overly cutesy game. A hand held gun being the Z-buster; rectified in Z-collection. Confusing what a Decoy is by naming them Carbons and somehow introducing yet another name; Betas. Confusing the mankind playback plan with what Juno was doing. Changing the origin of Rock Voulnutt's name. "What a fine young man she is.", abbreviating terms like crazy and cutting out a lot of content.

-The Reploid War lasting centuries while we're still in the same century (21XX)
-Zero acting weird to an anti-virus while he only acts weird to the virus itself.
-Exclusion of X's in-depth schematics and Right's deeper warning about worrying.
-Nearly all dates in Cain's Journal being off, two journal dates being unified as one, and there being stuff about Zero in the Sigma rebellion date.

-Lab accident before the unveiling of the first six robots in which one robots goes array and sets the lab on fire. An enraged Wily accusing Light of jealousy and intentionally sabotaging the experiment; which leads to Wily stealing the plans of the industrial robots and disappearing for several months.
-Rock being a courageous male human wearing a robot shell so that Wily cannot reprogram MegaMan.
-Rush transformations having impossible specs. No way Rush Marine can move that fast!
-Zero being X's trusted robocanine that died in X1. Aaarf, he wants one!

And I probably forgot a LOT of things.



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Reply #204 on: July 19, 2010, 03:06:43 PM
-Lab accident before the unveiling of the first six robots in which one robots goes array and sets the lab on fire. An enraged Wily accusing Light of jealousy and intentionally sabotaging the experiment; which leads to Wily stealing the plans of the industrial robots and disappearing for several months.
-Rock being a courageous male human wearing a robot shell so that Wily cannot reprogram MegaMan.
-Rush transformations having impossible specs. No way Rush Marine can move that fast!
-Zero being X's trusted robocanine that died in X1. Aaarf, he wants one!

And I probably forgot a LOT of things.


Wait what?


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Reply #205 on: July 19, 2010, 03:24:01 PM
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Wait what?

Get equipped with the Reploid Research Lavatory.



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Reply #206 on: July 19, 2010, 04:44:28 PM
Aw, but changes like those are part of what makes the overall Megaman mythos so interesting! ;_;

Still not sure how Zero became a dog, though.



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Reply #207 on: July 19, 2010, 05:31:32 PM
PS3/Xbox360

NOT WII

INAFUNNNEEEEEE!!!!!

MM9 is awesome.

So will MMX9.


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Reply #208 on: July 19, 2010, 06:56:43 PM
The least you folks could do is fix up the TV Tropes articles for the Mega Man series. I mean, after all, only a few of the RMs's personalities have been mentioned there, and someone erroneously used Quint's data card info from the US RM&F, for instance.



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Reply #209 on: July 19, 2010, 07:00:57 PM
Aw, but changes like those are part of what makes the overall Megaman mythos so interesting! ;_;

Still not sure how Zero became a dog, though.
The same way the other changes happened. Bad translation.

Or, that one guy happened to just have watched "the Nightmare Before Christmas".

They dont make it interesting. It makes it annoying and confusing. For example, I didnt know X5 was THAT badly translate where they changed thing around. (Comrade thing aside, but I simply thought that was a mistake due to vague Japanese writing) I want to know the story, not the localization team's own fanwank that they insert into the story.
The least you folks could do is fix up the TV Tropes articles for the Mega Man series. I mean, after all, only a few of the RMs's personalities have been mentioned there, and someone erroneously used Quint's data card info from the US RM&F, for instance.
or, we could instead, put the correct facts in the ever growing MMN wiki.
Hell, maybe even our own.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #210 on: July 19, 2010, 08:10:32 PM
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I want to know the story, not the localization team's own fanwank that they insert into the story.

Then translate the sourcebooks. That's where a lot of the story is, and they're not going to be brought over any time soon.



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Reply #211 on: July 19, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
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Then translate the sourcebooks. That's where a lot of the story is, and they're not going to be brought over any time soon.

MegaMan Zero Official Complete Works
Mega Man Complete Works
Mega Man X Complete Works
and so on.

All of which even effectively advertised Japanese-only materials such as the Remastered Tracks and Rockman and Forte Challenger from the Future, even keeping original Japanese logos.



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Reply #212 on: July 19, 2010, 08:26:02 PM
Well they do make the US side interesting on how bad they F'd-up  the localization/translation/whatever. I lol'd at hearing that Zero was a DOG!
Gonzo I think you should refer to it maybe as the "US Side" or something. :p

X needs a dog ;^;

Also, Who was that knight dude in the trailer?


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Reply #213 on: July 19, 2010, 08:29:59 PM

Also, Who was that knight dude in the trailer?



Arthur from Ghosts n Goblins/Ghouls n Ghosts.

Anyway, Just to drop this off here...
Its a translated X1 script. (has the original, the japanese, and the translated japanese)
 you can see how in many cases, the meaning or sentiment of a part changes due to how it's translated.

[spoiler]Mega Man X / Rockman X Script

Rockman X transcription by Boco the Chokobo
Translation from Japanese by Boco the Chokobo
Editing / Formatting by Boco the Chokobo
Mega Man X transcription by Reeve

boco@chibiusa-loves-hotaru.zzn.com
reeve@megaman-x.com


Intro
--------------------------------------------------------------
NOM ENGINEER WORK SYSTEM
Model CPS-9204

Copyright © 2105, 2109, 2114
NOM Corporation
All Rights Reserved

real  mem = 8192 TB
avail mem = 32768 TB

primary data cache : 512KB
primary inst.cache : 768KB
secondary cache    : 32768KB

login: Dr.CAIN
code : ******

>device -dvl -a

reading "R.X.S."              * MMX line reads "reading "M.X.S.""
reading "BD-E"
reading "WARNING"



ROCKMAN X                     * MMX line reads "MEGAMAN X"
SPECIFICATION

"HEAD" IS
EQUIPPED WITH:

Broad-range
Eye Camera

Ultra-sensitive
Voice Recogni-
tion System

Voice Genera-
tion System
made by MOKUOO                * MMX line reads "made by HAYATOM"
Inc.



"CHEST" IS
EQUIPPED WITH:

Accumulative
Energy Gene-
rator

Micro-fusion
Fuel Tank

Central Joint-
controlling
System



"ARMS" ARE
EQUIPPED WITH:

X-Buster (Rock                * MMX line reads "X-Buster (Mega"
Buster Mark17)

Energy
Amplifier

Variable
Weapon System



"LEGS" ARE
EQUIPPED WITH:

Gyroscopic
Stabilzation
System

Emergency
Acceleration
System
 (Optional)



INTERIOR
SKELETON:

Reactive armor
skeleton which
reduces damage
by 93 percent.

BODY SKIN:

Lightweight
"Titanium-X"
alloy.



WARNING:

"X" IS THE FIRST OF A NEW
GENERATION OF ROBOTS WHICH
CONTAIN AN INNOVATIVE NEW
FEATURE - THE ABILITY TO
THINK, FEEL AND MAKE THEIR
OWN DECISIONS. HOWEVER THIS
ABILITY COULD BE VERY DAN-
GEROUS. IF "X" WERE TO BREAK
THE FIRST RULE OF ROBOTICS,
 "A ROBOT MUST NEVER HARM
A HUMAN BEING", THE RESULTS
WOULD BE DISASTROUS AND I
FEAR THAT NO FORCE ON EARTH
COULD STOP HIM.

APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS WILL
BE REQUIRED BEFORE WE CAN
SAFELY CONFIRM  HIS RELI-
ABILITY. UNFORTUNATELY I WILL
NOT LIVE TO SEE THAT DAY,
NOR DO I HAVE ANYONE TO
CARRY ON MY WORK. THEREFORE,
I HAVE DECIDED TO SEAL HIM
IN THIS CAPSULE, WHICH WILL
TEST HIS INTERNAL SYSTEMS
UNTIL HIS RELIABILITY HAS
BEEN CONFIRMED. PLEASE DO
NOT DISTURB THE CAPSULE
UNTIL THAT TIME.

"X" POSSESSES GREAT RISKS
AS WELL AS GREAT POSSIBILI-
TIES. I CAN ONLY HOPE FOR
THE BEST.

        SEPTEMBER 18, 20XX
                   T.RIGHT    * MMX line reads "T.LIGHT"




From here on, the Mega Man X script is on the left, the Rockman X in the
 middle, and the translation on the right. Chapter breaks are unofficial,
 but character names are from CAPCOM. Actions are in --these--.


Awakening Road
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 Vile:                 VAVA:                        Vava:
You worthless piece   BAKAme!orenikaterutodemo     Idiot! You thought you could
of scrap metal, did   omattaka EKKUSU!             beat me, X?
you think you         
could defeat me?      inochiha hitotsushikanainda, You only live once. Should've
                      daijinitsukaubekidattana..   used it for something more
                      HAHAHAHA!                    important.. HAHAHAHA!

--Zero shoots Vava's Ridearmor's arm off--

 X:                    EKKUSU:                      X:
I guess I'm           ku,kusou!                    D..dammit!
not powerful enough   orenochikaradeha,yatsurawo   I'm not strong enough to beat
to defeat him...      taosukotohadekinainoka...    them, am I...
                     
 Zero:                 ZERO:                        Zero:
X, you shouldn't      EKKUSU,imanoomaedeha,        X, as you are now, you don't
expect to defeat him, yatsura,SHIGUMAwotaosukotoha stand a chance against them -
he is designed to be  dekinaidarou.                no, against Sigma.
a war machine.       
                      shikashiomaeniha,tatakaini   But, since this is a war,
Remember, you have    yotte,nouryokuwotakameru     you'll gain abilities and
not reached full      chikaragaaru!                power with experience.
power yet.           
                      sonochikarade omaehamotto    You should expect a lot for
If you use all the    tsuyokunareruhazuda!         yourself.
abilities you were   
designed with, you    imanooreyorimozutto...       Compare that to me, and even
should become         orehasorenikakeruze!         I wouldn't know the result.
stronger...           
                      orehasakiniitte SHIGUMAno.   I'll go scout ahead for
You may even become   AJITOwosaguru.               Sigma's stronghold.
as powerful as I am. 
                      omaeha kakuchinoHANTA-wo     Your orders are to fulfill
I'll scout ahead and  buttsubushitekure.           your duty as a Hunter.
collect as much       
information on        mataatodeaou...              We'll rendezvous later.
Sigma's fortress
as I can.             EKKUSU...                    X...
                      shinunayo.....               ..don't die...
I'll meet up with you
when you get there.   
See you later!       
                     
X, I know you can do 
it!                   



ICY PENGUIGO - Leg Part               * MMX: Chill Penguin
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 Dr. Light:       RAITOhakase:                 Dr. Right:
So you've        EKKUSUyo,yahari              X! It seems you've
come...          kiteshimattaka..             come after all...
                 
X, I gave you    dekireba omaeniha,           I wanted you to have
the ability      heiwanahibiwo okutte         a peaceful existance,
to choose        hoshikattanojya...           if it were at all
your own path in                              possible...
life,            koremo,unmei
                 nanokanou...                 This, also, was a
and I hoped                                   predestined possibility.
the world        KAPUSERUnihairunojya,
would allow      EKKUSU.                      Enter the capsule, X.
you to choose a 
peaceful one.    sousureba,omaeha             Well then, you'll recieve
                 DASSHUga dekiruyouninari,    the ability to dash,
But now it       idounouryokuga oohabani      which I expect will be
seems that       APPUsuruhazujya.             a substantial increase
you are                                       in your capabilities.
destined to      konoyounaKAPUSERUga         
fight.           madakakuchini kakusareteoru. I've already hidden
                 tsuyokunaritainonara         capsules like this one
Because I        KAPUSERUwo                   all over the place.
thought the      sagashidasunojya!            If you want to become
world might                                   strong, search for them!
need a new       tsuraikotomo ookarouga,
champion,        ganbarunojyazo..             Surely on this journey,
                 EKKUSUyo...                  you'll encounter heartbreak.
I have hidden                                 Just do your best...
capsules like   
this one.                                     X....
                 
If you find     
and use them     
you will be     
able to increase
your powers     
                 
beyond           
anything the     
world has       
ever known.     
                 
Step into       
this capsule     
                 
and recieve     
an accelera-     
tion system     
to boost your   
speed.           
                 
Good Luck, X!   


STORM EAGLEED - Head Part             * MMX: Storm Eagle
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Dr. Light:       RAITOhakase:             Dr. Right:
This capsule     kokodeha,HERUMETTOwo     Here, the Helmet Power-
contains an      PAWA-APPUsaseru          Up Part will be given.
enhancement for  PA-TSUwoataeyou.
your helmet                               With the Head attack,
                 HEDDOTAKKUde,tokubetsuna special ceilings can
which will allow tenjyouwokowshite        be broken, making it
you to break     susundeikukotoga         possible to continue
some ceilings    dekirujyrou.             onward.
with a headbutt.


BURNIN' NOUMANDER - Arm Part          * MMX: Flame Mammoth
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Dr. Light:        RAITOhakase:             Dr. Right:
This capsule      kokodeha,EKKUSUBASUTA-wo Here, I will grant
contains a part   PAWA-APPUsaseruPA-TSUwo  you the X-Buster
                  sazukeyou.               Power-Up Part.
which will
increase the      arayuruSHOTTOwo          If you charge the
capabilities      CHA-JIsaserukotode,      shot, this will
of your X-Buster. yorikyouryokunakougekiga draw out a more
                  kuridaserujyarou.        powerful strike.
You can use it
to fire all
types of weapons.


STING CHAMELEAO - Body Part           * MMX: Sting Chameleon
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Dr. Light:     RAITOhakase:               Dr. Right:
This capsule   kokodeha,BODIwoPAWA-APPU   Here, the Body Power-
contains a new saseruPA-TSUwoataeyou.     Up Part will be given.
type of body
armor.         uketaDAME-JIwo,hangenshite This will reduce by
               kurerukotojyarou.          half all damage recieved.
It will reduce
damage to your
systems by
fifty percent.


ARMOR ARMAGE - Hadouken               * MMX: Armored Armadillo
--------------------------------------------------------------
 Dr. Light:       RAITOhakase:                Dr. Right:
I give you a     fufufu,doujyaEKKUSU!        Fuhuhu, `sup X?
special present. kitaenukareta,              I guess training you
Now, enter the   konokaradana!!              in this body would be
capsule, please!                             a huge mistake, eh!
                 ushironimiyuru daibakufude,
                 kitaenikitaenuitanojya!!    Behind the Big Shaking
                                             Shogunate is the place for
                 bakufutoyuutemo,            special training!
                 "edobakufu"no
                 kotodehanaizo!!             With the Shogunate and
                                             me doing karate, it's like
                 sonnakotoha do-demoyoi!     being back in Edo!
                 EKKUSU! KAPUSERUni
                 hairunojya!                 Such a good feeling! X!!
                                             Get in that capsule!!
                 washiga shugyounosue
                 etokushita wasawo,omaeni    Once we're done training,
                 sazukeyou! tadaashi         I'll grant you a new technique!
                 uchikataha,jibunde          But you need to figure out
                 mitsukerunojya!!            how to use it on your own!

                 EKKUSUyo, shugyoujya!       Train, X!
                 shugyou orunomijya!!        Training is the only way!!


Sigma's Stronghold
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Zero:                ZERO:                     Zero:
Finally! We've found EKKUSU,tsuniSHIGUMAno     X, I've finally
Sigma's fortress!    AJITOwomitsukedaze!!      discovered Sigma's
                     totetsumonakuookina       stronghold!  It's
Let's go in and put  yousaida!                 friggin' HUGE!!
an end to his war
against the humans!  hitotsujinawadeha ikanai  It'd be impossible
                     darouga,OREtachinoPAWA-de for anyone else, but
                     ikkiniketchakuwo          with our power, we'll
                     tsuketeyarouze!!          put an end to this!



Again
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 Zero:                 ZERO:                       Zero:
Let's split up.       tekinokougekiwobunsansasere X, to confuse
                      tameni,futateniwakarete     the enemy, we'll
I'll go in first and  koudousuruzo EKKUSU!        act in two groups.
then you can slip in
while I keep the main OREhasakiniiku!             I'll go first!
defense force         omaemo atokarakitekure!!    Follow after me!!
busy!



Irregular Hunter                      * MMX: Maverick Hunter
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Zero:                 ZERO:                 Zero:
Stay back, X, I'll    EKKUSU,sagatteiro!    X, stand down!
take him on!          koitsuha OREgataosu!  This guy is mine!

--Zero is captured--

 Vile:                 VAVA:                   Vava:
X, do what I tell you FUFUFU...               Fuhuhu...
or he's history!      koitsuwo tasuketaika,   You wanna try to
                      EKKUSU!                 save him, X?

                      tasuketainonara,        Do what I say if
                      OREnomeireini shitagae! you want to help him!

                      sousureba inochidakeha  If you do, I just might
                      tasuketeyaru...         spare him...

 Zero:                 ZERO:                   Zero:
Don't listen to him,  EKKUSU,OREnikamawazu    X, don't worry about me!
X! Go ahead and blast koitsuwo yatteshimae!!  Just do it!!
him!!

 Vile:                 VAVA:                        Vava:
Dream on Zero!        zuibun iseigaiina            It's good to be commander,
X knows he can't      ZERO! omaegasonokinara,      huh, Zero? Digging your own
defeat me!            soremoiidarou...             grave is fine with me...

My armored carrier is EKKUSU,sukoshihatsuyokunatta Well, X?  I was almost
more than a match for tsumaridarouga,OREno         worried for a second, but
his ancient weapons!  RAIDOA-MA-ha oohabni         my Ride Armor gives me
                      PAWA-APPU                    a much greater power-up!!
                      shiteiru!!
                                                   You'll see how I got my
                      OREnihamukautoha,            reputation! I'll crush you
                      minohodoshirasume! ikuzo!!   like a can of sardines!
                                                   Let's go!!

--X is captured--

 Zero:                  ZERO:                  Zero:
Maybe..... but I'm not omaenoaiteha,EKKUSU    It's not X you should
through yet!           dehanaku konoOREda!!!  worry about -- it's me!!!

--Zero self-destructs--

 Vile:                 VAVA:                     Vava:
What a worthless      BAKAnayatsume,sonnakotode What a stupid bastard, trying
gesture! I can't be   konoorega taoserutodemo   something that stupid to kill
defeated so easily!   omottanoka!?              someone like me.. just what was
                                                he thinking?
So X, it's just you   saaEKKUSU,tsugihaomaeno
and me now!           banda! kakugohaiika!?     Well, X.. your number is up!
                                                Are you prepared!?

--X breaks free--

 Vile:                 VAVA:                     Vava:
What the...!? Where   na,nanii-!! omaeni,       What the hell!? You,
did that energy come  sonnachikaraga nokotteita you still had all that
from??                toha!                     power!

It really doesn't     FU,maoyoi!                Heh, it's still alright..
matter how much       inujinishitaZEROni,       I'll send you to be
energy you absorb X,  suguniwaseteyruze!!       together with your precious
                                                Zero!!
you are still far too EKKUSU,kakugoshiro!!!
weak! Prepare to be                             X! Prepare to die!!
terminated!

--Vava dies; Arm Part collected--

 Zero:                 ZERO:                     Zero:
X, I've taken too     EKKUSU,munendaga OREha    X.. I have regrets, but..
much damage.....      kokomadeda...             it's a little late now..

Auto repair systems   omaenochikaraha,          Your power, it's already
can't handle it...    sudeniOREwokoeteiru...    surpassed mine...

My power is fading    imanoomaenara...          Right now.. I'm sure..
fast...               SHIGUMA..wo...            you... could stop...
                      taoserukamo...shi..re...  Sig.... ma.....
Your power is greater
than I thought.       ......                    ......
                      ......                    ......
Maybe you can destroy
Sigma.

--Vava dies; Player is Lazy--

 Zero:                 ZERO:                          Zero:
You are more powerful zuibuntsuyokunttana,           You've grown very strong,
than you were before, EKKUSU...                      X...
but Sigma is much
more than he appears  daga,SHIGUMAha gaikenkaraha    But Sigma seems to have
to be.                hakarishirenaai PAWA-wo        unimaginable power...
                      motteiru...
You're going to need                                 I'm done, I've fought...
an edge.              OREhamou,tatakaen...           there's only one of us
                      tadahitotsu,nokosaretanozomiha left.. only you, X...
Take my arm cannon    EKKUSU, omedakeda...
and your attack power                                Take my Arm Part with
should increase.      OREnoA-MUPA-TSUwo              you.. it'll increase the
                      motteike...                    attack power of your
Good Luck, X!         BASUTA-no kougekiryokuga       Buster...
                      kakudanniAPPU
                      suruhasuda...                  ..of course, I don't know
                                                     if you can take the recoil
                      mottomo,omaega tsukai          of the thing or not...
                      konsetaranohanashidagana...
                                                     See ya...
                      jyana...                       X....
                      EKKUSU...
                                                     ..my last wish....
                      tanondazo.....



Repliroid King                        * MMX: Reploid King
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Sigma:                SHIGUMA:                     Sigma:
Welcome! I see you    fufufu...subarashiiyo,       Fuhuhu.. superb job, X!  You
managed to get here   EKKUSU.hitoridekokomde       made it here all by yourself.
by yourself.          tadoritsukutoha.             Truly splendid.
Very impressive!      jitsunisubarshii.
                                                   Well then, since we're even,
I could destroy you,  sateto,sugunidemowatashito   I'd love to suggest a contest
but I would not rob   oteawase negaitainogaga,     of sorts - well, it seems my
my pet of that        ainiku watashinoPETTOga      pet here won't permit that.
pleasure.             sorewoyurushitekurenakutene.
                                                   So I guess I might as well
He knows how to deal  nanishiro,urgirimonono       leave the management of the
with betrayers.       shimatsuh,subetekoreni       traitors entirely up to him..
                      makaseteirunodene...
Should you live,                                   Be that as it may, it is my
I will be waiting for soredeha EKKUSU,             Heart's desire to be able to
you. Don't disappoint kimito tatakaerukotowo,      join you in glorious combat.
me X!                 kokoroyorinegtteiruo.        HAHAHAHAHA....
                      HAHAHAHAHA...

--Velguarder dies--

 Sigma:                SHIGUMA:                         Sigma:
Excellent job, X!     migotoda,EKKUSU.                 So beautiful, X.
I see why Zero        soredekoso,anoZEROga             You are very much the
counted on you. You   mikondotokoda.                   man Zero hoped you'd be.
are almost as good a
hunter as I was.      dehanozomidoori,watashiga        As I hoped, I will be
                      aitewoshiteyarou.                your partner in this last
But, the time of your konowatashinitatawatsuitakotowo, dance. I build within me
destruction has       anoyodekoukisurugayoi!           the power to open the
arrived! You shall                                     very gates of Hell itself!
regret ever having
defied me!

--Sigma is dying--

 Sigma:                SHIGUMA:                    Sigma:
No!!! It's not        BA,BAKAna...                F..fool... when I face you,
possible! I'm a       omaegaotokini,konowatashiga I lose like this...
Reploid! I can't be   yararerutoha...
destroyed by you!                                 Why...
                      nazeda...                   Why did you destroy
Why, X?!              nazeomaeha,watashini        my dream..!
Why have you done     imukatta...
this to us?!                                      Our time..
                      warera,REPURIROIDOno        The Age of Repliroids..
Without the humans,   jidaiga...
my Reploid brothers                               ..it's coming...
could have ushered in hajimarouto...
a new age.....                                    ..he.. said it.. was...
                      iu..no..ni.....



The Transient Silence
--------------------------------------------------------------

THE WAR HAS ENDED   tatakaiha owtta.                The battle has ended;
FOR NOW AND PEACE   ashitani nareba,                for tomorrow, a
HAS BEEN RESTORED.  futatabi heiwana asaga          peaceful morning will come.
BUT THOSE WHO       otozurerukotodarou.             However, those who have
SACRIFICED THEM-    shikashi,kizutsuki taore,       lost their lives on this
SELVES FOR THE      yorunoyamiheto kieteitta        dark night cannot see the
VICTORY WILL NEVER  monotachiga,sonoasawo           peaceful sunrise. Morning
RETURN.             mukaerukotoha hasshitenai.      will not arrive for them.

EXHAUSTED, X GAZES  hitori tachitsukusu             For the only one standing,
AT THE DESTRUCTION  EKKUSUno sugataha,              exhausted, the light from
HE HELPED CAUSE     bakuhatsunohikarini terasarete, the explosions illuminating
AND WONDERS WHY HE  imanimo kieteshimaisounimieta.  him, it cannot come too soon.
CHOSE TO FIGHT.
WAS THERE ANOTHER   naze,tatakawanakuteha           Why, why is it that
WAY?                naranainoka.                    I must fight?
                    daremoEKKUSUni,sonokotowo       For X, the answer
STANDING ON THE     oshieteha kurenai.              does not come.
CLIFF, THE ANSWERS  yasumumamonaku,dokokade         After a moment's respite,
SEEM TO ESCAPE HIM. IREGYURA-tachiga hasseishi,     the Irregulars rise some-
HE ONLY KNOWS THAT  futatabikareha tatakainouzuheto where, and the hurricane of
HE'LL FIGHT THE     makikomarete ikunotarou...      battle continues...
MAVERICKS AGAIN
BEFORE HE FINDS     yasashiwo sutekirenu            Your kindness cannot
HIS ANSWER.         IREGYURA-HANTA-•EKKUSU.         be discarded,
                    karenotatakaiha,                Irregular Hunter X.
HOW LONG WILL HE    dokomade tsuzukunode arouka.    Will his fight
KEEP ON FIGHTING?   kareno udeni                    carry on, somewhere?
HOW LONG WILL HIS   tsumetaku hikaru,               The X-Buster on his arm
PAIN LAST?          EKKUSUBASUTA-no                 shines cooly...
MAYBE ONLY THE      kagayakitotomoni...
X-BUSTER ON HIS
HAND KNOWS FOR
SURE.....



 Sigma:                    SHIGUMA:
YOU HAVE WON A TEMPORARY  omaegataoshitamonoha,watashi jishindehanai.
VICTORY, X! WHAT YOU      BARABARAninattaKIKAIha,watashino bunshinno
DESTROYED WAS ONLY A      younamono.watashihafutatabi,jittaitonatte
TEMPORARY BODY -- MY      yomigaeru... EKKUSUyo,mata aeruhiwo
SPIRIT REMAINS INTACT.    tanoshimini shiteiruzo.HAHAHAHAHA...

IN TIME I WILL FIND OTHER    Sigma:
BODIES STRONG ENOUGH TO     The one you defeated was not me.
DO MY BIDDING AND I WILL    This time was my other self's opportunity.
RETURN. I SHALL SEE YOU     But I revive again. X.. soon will come the
SOON, X. VERY SOON...       day when we truly meet. HAHAHAHAHA...
                         


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Special Thanks:
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For translational advice and kanji lookup,
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For Rockman X resources,
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For the Mega Man X script,
 Reeve ( reeve@megaman-x.com )
For forcing me to translate Rockman X in the first place,
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For making life worth living,
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This is a derivitave work of material © CAPCOM 1993, and is done with
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EDIT: Never mind, i found the X2 one. With just a google search too!


...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #214 on: July 19, 2010, 08:34:45 PM
Also, Who was that knight dude in the trailer?

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Reply #215 on: July 19, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
-Inconsistent names everywhere. They can't even stick to their own stuff.
-The existence of Monsteropolis; that multi faceted land of robot-like humanoids.
-Roll going completely unmentioned and unnamed until MM3/MM4, and even then there are those sources considering her either a new character, or not a robot at all.
-Exclusion of a LOT of facts that were originally written in the manuals.
-Plasma Cannon versus a Rock Buster with Solar Bullets, in fact, MM4 made it sound like the Mega Buster was introduced in 4; it was only upgraded in 4.
-Time Skimmer, Chronos Institute, 37 something years into the future.

-Altered the game instead of properly translating them (X2, X3, X5, MM7, PU, ZERO, Legends, EXE4+.). Resulting in Serges' character being butchered, Vile being killed years ago while it wasn't nearly that long and Vile haunting X in his dreams while he should actually be reviving again and again, Wily being a comrade of X's, Rock being more than a robot when he isn't, ProtoMan outright exclaiming Light is his father when he wants nothing to do with Light, Rock being called "Blue Bomber" instead of "Original" by his copy, everybody making too many puns in an already overly cutesy game. A hand held gun being the Z-buster; rectified in Z-collection. Confusing what a Decoy is by naming them Carbons and somehow introducing yet another name; Betas. Confusing the mankind playback plan with what Juno was doing. Changing the origin of Rock Voulnutt's name. "What a fine young man she is.", abbreviating terms like crazy and cutting out a lot of content.

-The Reploid War lasting centuries while we're still in the same century (21XX)
-Zero acting weird to an anti-virus while he only acts weird to the virus itself.
-Exclusion of X's in-depth schematics and Right's deeper warning about worrying.
-Nearly all dates in Cain's Journal being off, two journal dates being unified as one, and there being stuff about Zero in the Sigma rebellion date.

-Lab accident before the unveiling of the first six robots in which one robots goes array and sets the lab on fire. An enraged Wily accusing Light of jealousy and intentionally sabotaging the experiment; which leads to Wily stealing the plans of the industrial robots and disappearing for several months.
-Rock being a courageous male human wearing a robot shell so that Wily cannot reprogram MegaMan.
-Rush transformations having impossible specs. No way Rush Marine can move that fast!
-Zero being X's trusted robocanine that died in X1. Aaarf, he wants one!

And I probably forgot a LOT of things.


Wow, that sure is a lot of details, facts, and other things left out, mistranslated, or otherwise just done differently from the Japanese version.



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Reply #216 on: July 19, 2010, 08:40:00 PM
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MegaMan Zero Official Complete Works
Mega Man Complete Works
Mega Man X Complete Works
and so on.

The others, then. >.> And those are primarily artbooks.

About that script:

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Isn't this the yaoi-influenced one? >.>



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Reply #217 on: July 19, 2010, 08:42:05 PM
what?
Dunno bout that. Whatever the dude/dudette might like, the script is just a translated one. ive read through it, and I dont see anything distinctly yaoi related.

in any case, heres the X2 one, (since X2 was far worse off with the translation than X1 was)
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Mega Man X2 / Rockman X2 Script

Rockman X2 transcription by Boco the Chokobo
Translation from Japanese by Boco the Chokobo
Editing / Formatting by Boco the Chokobo
Mega Man X2 transcription by Reeve

boco@chibiusa-loves-hotaru.zzn.com
reeve@megaman-x.com


The Mega Man X2 script is on the far left.  The Rockman X2 script and my
translation share the space on the right, with the Japanese in the middle and
the translation on the far-right if space permits; otherwise with the Japanese
on top and the translation below.  Lines will seperate them in the second case.

The Japanese version does not label who is speaking and when; the colors, text
speed, and speech patterns are instead used to identify characters.  Since the
US version -does- list who is speaking, I won't bother adding it in to the
other versions like I did in X1, excepting the rare instances when different
people talk in the Japanese version.  Sagesse's name is changed to Serges in
the US version, and X's to Mega Man, so be aware of that as you read.

A (p) in the text means a short pause before the rest of the characters are
displayed.  Also, Sigma's next-to-last line slows down as it displays, having
more and more time between each character (his scream is at fast speed, like
Agile's text) - I've removed all mentions of speed from the script otherwise.
(for reference, Agile speaks fast, Violen speaks slow, and everyone else uses
the same text speed except as mentioned above)


Intro
--------------------------------------------------------------

It has been 6 months since     saikyounoIREGYURA- "SHIGUMA"tono tatakaikara     
the destruction of (Sigma)     hantoshigo...                                   
and little has changed.                                                         
                               EKKUSUha SHIGUMAnosantouno IREGYURA-noshoriwo   
The Maverick revolt started    omonaninmutoshite katsudoushiteita.             
by Sigma is over, but Mega     ----------------------------------------------
Man X and the new generation   It has been half a year since the battle with
                               the strongest Irregular, "Sigma".
of Maverick Hunters have yet                   
to destroy all of Sigma's      X has been actively processing the third-class
followers.                     Irregulars who were under Sigma as his main duty.


Lead by information gained by  kyoumo mata EKKUSUha HANTA-kichikarano
Dr. Cain, Mega Man X and the   shireiwoukeIREGYURA-ga seizousareteiruto sareru
rest of the Hunters have
                               koujyouno chousa oyobi hakainotame
tracked the last of the        nakamano IREGYURA-HANTA-to tomoni shutsudoushita.
Mavericks to an abandoned      ----------------------------------------------
reploid factory.               Today also, X again acts on orders from the
                               Hunter Base; to investigate a factory suspected
There they hope to wipe out    of producing Irregulars,
the last of the resistance.
                               and to attempt to destroy it with the help of
                               the other Irregular Hunters.
                               

Little do they suspect that    shikashi sorehaEKKUSUnitottearatanatatakaiheno
real war is about to begin...  PURORO-GUdeshika nakatta...
                               ----------------------------------------------
                               However, this would become for X nothing but
                               a prologue to a new battle...

MEGA MAN X2         ROKKUMAN X2                  ROCKMAN X2
Versus X-Hunters    " BA-SASU KAUNTA-HANTA- "    "VERSUS COUNTER-HUNTERS"


An Observation (Behind the Curtain)
--------------------------------------------------------------

(SERGES)                       yatsuga EKKUSUnanoka... narubodo nakanaka
This is their leader.          yarioruwai.
His name is Mega Man X.        ----------------------------------------------
                               So that is X... I see he's becoming quite
                               a competitor.


(VIOLEN)                       FUN! taishitakotonaiZE!
Those who underestimated him   ----------------------------------------------
are now nothing but scrap.     HAH!  He is no such thing!


(AGILE)                        tashikani kareno nouryokuha kikendesune.
We won't make the same         imanouchini taoshite shimawanakuteha...
mistake.                       ----------------------------------------------
                               Certainly, his abilities are quite dangerous,
He is powerful, but he is      don't you think?  Surely we should not be giving
blind to what is happening     thought to defeating him now..
around him.


(SERGES)                       koyatsuno shoriha washirano bukani
Our Mavericks will keep him    makaserutosurukanou.
busy until we are ready.       ----------------------------------------------
                               I propose we leave it to our subordinates to
                               deal with him and see how it goes.


(AGILE)                        ...tokorode anoREPURIROIDOga kanseisurunoni
Yes. How is the plan           itsumadekakarunodeuka...
proceeding?                    ----------------------------------------------
                               ...by the by, how long do you suppose it will
                               take to complete that one Repliroid?


(SERGES)                       PA-TSUha hobo kanseishite irunojyaga
Collection is proceeding as    ...(p)seigyokairoga fukanzennanojya.
scheduled.                     ----------------------------------------------
                               I've almost completed the parts, but... (p)
However, we are having         the control circuit is still imperfect.
problems with the control
chip.


(AGILE)                        watashitachino mokutekinotameniha
We have little time.           anoREPURIROIDOnochikaraga hitsuyounanodesu.

We must finish construction    isoganakuteha...
on schedule.                   ----------------------------------------------
We must hurry...               For the sake of all of our plans, that
                               Repliroid's power is indispensible.

                               To not hurry would mean...


A Challenge
--------------------------------------------------------------

(AGILE)                        ...(p)EKKUSUme!
I see now why Sigma fell at
the hands of Mega Man X.       ...sasugani ichidotohaie SHIGUMAsamawo
                               taoshitadakenokotoha arimasune.
He is quite formidable.        ----------------------------------------------
                               ...(p) X!

                               ...it is as expected in that he was after all
                               once able to defeat Lord Sigma, hm?


(SERGES)                       bukadakeni makashiteha okennou...(p)
I am not sure our Mavericks    chokusetsu washiranotede taosushikanaika.
can hold him long enough.      ----------------------------------------------
                               Defeating our subordinates shows power...(p)
We may have to intervene.      Perhaps he will only fall by our own hands.
 

                               ku'ku'ku'... (NOTE: This is probably the sound
                                             of their communications system.)

                  -- Meanwhile, in the Bat-Cave... --

(MEGA MAN)                     KEINhakase!(p) nanika oyobidesuka?
Dr. Cain! what happened?!      ----------------------------------------------
                               Dr. Cain!(p)  Why did you call?


(DR. CAIN)                     KAUNTA-HANTA-tonanoru IREGYURA-kara
A group of Mavericks calling   tsuushinga haittanojya.
themselves the (X-Hunters)     ----------------------------------------------
                               We've recieved a transmission from a group of
have just contacted us...      Irregulars calling themselves the Counter-
                               Hunters.


(SERGES)                       "... ...GAGA... GAGAGA   (Note: radio static)
Greetings. We have all of       ROKKU... E...KUSU..."     Rock...  e..X...
Zero's parts.
                               "...ZEROnoPA-TSUha WASHIraga teniireta
                                torimodoshitakereba..."
                               ----------------------------------------------
                               "...we have obtained Zero's parts, which we
                                know you'd like to recover..."

                        AGILE:
           "EKKUSU,anatahitoride watashitachini      "X, please come and
            aini kitekudasai"                        meet with us, alone."



(VIOLEN)                       "omaega OREtachini katereba
They can be yours,              ZEROnoPA-TSUwo kaeshiteyaruZE!"
if you can defeat us!
          ----------------------------------------------
                               "If you win against us, we'll give them back!"


(AGILE)                        "tanoshiminishiteimasuyo...(p)
We look forward to meeting      EKKUSU..."
you, X!                        ----------------------------------------------
                               "It has been a pleasure dealing with you.(p)
                                X..."


(DR. CAIN)                     konokichini ZEROnokoudouwo seigyosuru
X, Zero's control chip is      KONTORO-RUPA-TSUwo hokanshiteorunojya.
still stored here.             
                               yueni yaturaha soukantanni
I doubt it is possible to      ZEROwo saiseisurukotohadekinaimazujya.
resurrect him without it.      ----------------------------------------------
                               We still have the Controller Part in the base,
                               which rules Zero's behavior.

                               So for them, it isn't possible to revive Zero
                               so simply.


(MEGA MAN)                     KEINhakase(p)
Dr. Cain, I've got to get      ZEROnoPA-TSUha orega torimodoshimasu!
Zero's parts back              ----------------------------------------------
                               Dr. Cain..(p) I'll recover Zero's parts!
at any cost!   


Challenge Accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------

ENCOUNTER WITH VIOLEN:

(VIOLEN)             gahahahaha'!               AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
X, I shall crush     konoBAIORENsamano PAWA-de  The power of Master
you like a tin can!  hineritsubushiteyaroZE!    Violen will crush you!

-battle-

(VIOLEN)             gugugugu'...               Grr...
it cannot be!        dokonikonnaPAWA-ga         where were you hiding
Now the unification  kakusareteirunoda!         that power..!
is in jeopardy!


You got              ZEROnoBODIPA-TSUwo         Obtained Zero's
Zero part No.2!      teniireta!                 body parts!


ENCOUNTER WITH AGILE:

(AGILE)              yahari kimashitane         So you came after all,
Welcome X.           EKKUSU...                  hm, X..?
Your destruction is  konoAJI-RUga               Please let me, Agile,
at hand!             oaiteitashimashou.         be your partner here.

-battle-

(AGILE)              konowatashiwo kokomade     That I was cornered
I may have failed,   oitsumerutoha...           this time.. I can
but you will never   shinjiraren!               hardly believe it!
live to see Zero!
                     anatawo omaku              It seems we'll need to keep a
                     miteitayoudesune.          closer eye on you from behind
                     tsugini autokiwotanoshimini  the curtain.  It has indeed
                     shiteimasuyo...       been a pleasure.  Until next we meet!


You got              ZEROnoREGGUPA-TSUwo        Obtained Zero's
Zero part No.1!      teniireta!                 leg parts!


ENCOUNTER WITH SAGESSE:

(SERGES)             WASHInonaha SA-GESUjya.    My name is Sagesse.
I am Serges and I    nakanaka ikinoyosasouna    You seem to have a very good
cannot allow you to  yatsujyaga soremo          style, but how long do you
stop the             itsumade motsukanou.       suppose you'll be able
unification!                                    to hold on to it as well?

It is for the good
of all!

-battle-

(SERGES)             sasugajyano...             As I expected...
You have merely      kokohaichido nigeruto      This is my only
delayed,the          surukanou.                 opportunity to escape.
inevitable. We will
meet again...


You got              ZEROnoHEDDOPA-TSUwo        Obtained Zero's
Zero part No.3!      teniireta!                 head parts!


Mission Accomplished
--------------------------------------------------------------

(DR. CAIN)                     oo! tsuiniZEROnoPA-TSUwo subete teniiretanoka!(p)
I can try to reactivate Zero  korede ZERowoyomigaeraseru kotogadekiruzo.(p) daga
to help, but I need more time
                               sukoshi jikangakakarisouda. moushibaraku
before you can reinstall his   ganbattekure.  tanondazo EKKUSU.
control chip...                ----------------------------------------------
Try to slow them down!         Oh! Have you recovered all of Zero's parts?(p)
                               I should be able to revive him with these.(p)
Good luck!
                               But it will take a little time.  Try to hold on
                               for a bit longer is all I'm asking, X. 


A Father's Legacy
--------------------------------------------------------------

RIGHT CAPSULE - METAMOR MOTHMENOS:

(LIGHT)                EKKUSU konoKAPUSERUni     Enter the capsule, X.
Mega Man X, enter      hairunojya.
the capsule.                                     Here, I will grant you
                       kokodeha PAWA-APPUshite   a power-up for your Body.
This enhancement       BODIPA-TSUwo sazukeyou.
will modify your                                 By converting damage recieved
body armor.            tekikarano DAME-JIwo      from enemies into weapon
                       bukiENERUGI-ni kaete      energy, something like a
With it you can        bokuhatsusaserukotoga     large power discharge can be
absorb damage and      dekirunojya.              executed.
transfer it into
explosive weapon
energy.


RIGHT CAPSULE - CRISTAR MYMINE:
                                                 
(LIGHT)                EKKUSU konoKAPUSERUni     Enter the capsule, X.
Mega Man X, enter      hairunojya.
the capsule.                                     Here, I will give you a
                       kokodeha aratana me       part to replace your eyes.
This enhancement       tonaru PA-TSUwoataeyou.   Utilizing your internal energy,
will modify your       EKKUSUnoENERUGI-wo        a Radar will be produced.
radar optics.          riyoushita               
                       RE-DA-jya.                When used in various places,
It uses some energy,                             it is posible to find
but with it you        samazamana bashode        hidden items.
will be able to see    shiyousuruto nakusareta   
objects that you       AITEMUwo mitsukerukotoga  Good luck, X...
could not see before.  dekirunojya.

Good luck, Mega Man.   ganbarunodazo EKKUSU...


RIGHT CAPULE - SONIC OSTREAGUE:

(LIGHT)                EKKUSU konoKAPUERUni      Enter the capsule, X.
Mega Man X, enter      hairunojya.
the capsule.                                     Here, I will grant you
                       kokodeha JYANPUryokuwo    a part to increase your
This enhancement       PAWA-APPUsaseru PA-TSUwo  jumping power.
will modify your       sazukeyou.
main drive unit.                                 You may now execute
                       kuuchuude DASSHUsuru      the Dash while
With it you will be    kotoga dekiruyouni        in mid-air.
able to dash while     naruhazujya.
in mid-air.

Use it wisely,
Mega Man X.


RIGHT CAPSULE - WHEEL ALLIGATES:

(LIGHT)                EKKUSU konoKAPUERUni         Enter the capsule, X.
Mega Man X, enter      hairunojya.
the capsule.                                        I will grant you a
                       CHA-JISHOTTOwo               part to further power-up
This enhancement       saraniPAWA-APPUsaseru        your charged shots.
will modify your       PA-TSUwosazukeyou.
X-Buster.                                           By accumulting energy,
                       ryoureni ENERUGI-wotamete    you may continuously
With it you will       renzokude kougekisurukotoga  attack through the use
be able to charge      dekiru DABURUCHA-JIjya.      of a Double Charge.
energy in both arms
at once.               arayuruSHOTTOwo              Since all shots are now
                       CHA-JIsaserukotode,          able to be charged,
This enables you to    yorikyouryokunakougekiga     this part can draw out
shoot a Double-Shot    kuridaserujyarou.            a more powerful strike.
or to charge any
weapon!


Double-Zero Point
--------------------------------------------------------------

WITHOUT ZERO:

(DR. CAIN)                     suman EKKUSU...(p) tattaima KAUNTA-HANTA-no
I'm sorry X...                 hutoriga konokichiniarawarete...
One of the X-Hunters attacked
                               ZEROnoPA-TSUwo subete ubawareteshumattanojya...
the base and...
took all of Zero's parts       yatsuraha jibunnoAJITOni modotte
away...                        ZEROwo IREGYURA-toshite yomigaeraserutsumorijya.

They are going to rebuild      KAUNTA-HANTA-no kichiha DABURUZEROPOINTO
Zero at their base.
                               hokkyokutenni arukotoga wakattanojyaga...
I tracked them to location     ----------------------------------------------
00 - The North Pole!           Sorry, X...(p) the surviving Counter-Hunters
                               stormed the base...

                               They stole all of Zero's parts, damn them...

                               They returned to their fortress, and they intend
                               to revive Zero as an Irregular.

                               The Counter-Hunter Base is at 00-Point.

                               That's somewhere near the North Pole, but...


(MEGA MAN)                     KEINhakase!(p)
I can't let them tamper with   orega ZEROwo tasukenikimasu!
him Dr. Cain.                  ----------------------------------------------
                               Dr. Cain!(p)
I've got to save him!          I'm going to save Zero!


WITH ZERO:

(DR. CAIN)                     EKKUSU!
Mega Man X! I've located       KAUNTA-HANTA-no kichiwo hakkenshitazo!
The X-Hunters base!
                               DABURUZERO POINTO(p) hokkyokutenda!
It's at grid location 00.      ----------------------------------------------
That's right at the            X!  I've located the Counter-Hunter Base!
North Pole!
                               00-Point..(p) the North Pole!


(MEGA MAN)                     wakarimashita KEINhakase(p) shutsudoushimasu.
Roger, Dr. Cain! I'm on my     ----------------------------------------------
way!                           Understood, Dr. Cain.(p)  I'm on my way.


(DR. CAIN)                     ZEROnoshuufukuniha mousukoshijikanga kakaru.(p)
It will take some more time    soremade ganbattekure.
to reactivate Zero...          ----------------------------------------------
                               Zero's repairs are taking a bit longer than I
Slow them down                 thought.(p)  Take care until then.
Mega Man X!


Revenge! Counter-Hunters
--------------------------------------------------------------

VIOLEN'S DEFEAT:

(VIOLEN)               KISAMAga OREyori             You think you're so
What?! How could he    sugureteirutodemoiunoka!(p)  much better than me!
have overloaded my     konoOREnoPAWA-gatsuujinutoha My power is only starting -
circuits?!!
Arrrggghhh...          guaaaaa~!                    GUAAAAAA!


SAGESSE TANK'S DEFEAT:

(SERGES)               WASHIhakokode horobirunoka?  I'm being destroyed here?
This is impossible!
The prophecy must      RAITOnowasuregatamino        Being defeated by the
be fulfilled!          ROBOTTOni matahaiboku        robotic memento of Right..
                       surutoha... munenjya..       such regret...


INTERLUDE WITH A DEAD MAN:

(LIGHT)                yokuzo kokomadekita!!        Wow, you came here!!
Wow! You are so cool!  EKKUSU!                      X!
I'm not worthy!!!      konkainowasaha koreda!       The latest peacemaker
I'm not worthy!!!      hore!sassato hairunojya.     is this!  So!
                                                    Enter, quickly!
Step inside for
a special surprise!


AGILE FLYER'S DEFEAT:

(AGILE)                masaka...                    Never... has that
NO!! This cannot be!   konnahasudeha...             happened...
!! Master,avenge me!
                       SHIGUMAsama                  Master Sigma!
                       douka warewarenokatasawo!    How.. with our toughness..!


AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE:

(SIGMA)                ...(p)                       ...(p)
It has been a while,   hisashiburidana EKKUSU.      It's been a while, eh, X?
Mega Man X...


(MEGA MAN)             ...!(p) SHUGUMAka!           ...!(p)  Sigma!?
What?! Sigma!!


(SIGMA)                ...(p)                       ...(p) Somehow, the Counter-
It seems that the      douyara KAUNTA-HANTA-no      Hunter operation also seems
X-Hunters have         sakusenmo shippainoyouda.    to have failed.  But
failed.                daga anshinshitamae.         you can't relax just yet.
But don't worry,
                       omaenotameni tanoshii        I've prepared a
I have arranged for    shukouwo youishitearu        wonderful plan,
some new toys for      nodayo.                      just for you.
you to play with
...                    chuuouKONPYU-TA-de           I'll be waiting at
                       matteiruzo.                  the Central Computer.


HUNTER VERSUS HUNTER
--------------------------------------------------------------

(SIGMA)                hisashiburidana EKKUSU.      It's been a while, eh, X?
Look who I found       konohiwo machiwabiteitazo.   We've been waiting for this
wandering around                                    day, for your apology.
Mega Man!              shoukaishiyou
                       karegawatashino              Let me introduce him.
My friend here has     aratanaPA-TONA-da.           He is my new partner.
a small problem with
you.                   mukashino nakamadoushi       You were comrades in the
                       zonbunnitatakatte            old days, before he began to
It seems that you      kuretamae.                   fight as freely as he wished.
let him die and he's
not too happy about
that!

Now I think it is
time that he repays
the favor!


WITHOUT ZERO:

(MEGA MAN)             ZERO...                      Zero...
Zero...


(ZERO)                 ...EKKUSUka?                 ...X?


(MEGA MAN)             ! saokuga modottanoka        ! You've recovered from that
Do you remenber me...  ZERO!                        change in heart?  Zero!


(ZERO)                 aa... omaeniha               Yeah... You really must've
Yea... I guess so...   zuibun meiwakuwo             wanted to see me again if you
Sorry to cause you     kaketamitaidana.             risked your life with all
so much trouble.                                    those troublesome annoyances.
                       EKKUSU! omaehaSHIGUMAwo
X, you need to go      oikakero.                    X! Chase after Sigma.
after Sigma!
I'll try and           oreha konokichino            I'll destory the base's
destroy the main       MEINKONPYU-TA-wo             Main Computer!
computer!              hakaisuru!


(MEGA MAN)             shinukika! ZERO!!            You'll die!  Zero!!
Take care of
yourself, Zero.
I don't have time
to put you back

together again!


(ZERO)                 orekara daijoubuda(p)        I'll be okay.(p) Go quickly!
I'll be ok.            hayakuikunda!
Get going,X!


WITH ZERO:

(ZERO)                 SHIGUMA!oreno COPI-nishiteha Sigma! You seem to have made
Sigma, you should      dekiga yokunaiyoudana.       a mistake in copying me.
have studied the
blueprints closer!

There is only one
Zero!


(SIGMA)                onore ZERO!                  Why you..! Zero!
Wait, Zero!            nazekisamaha watashini       Why haven't you
I know your secret!    KIBAwo mukeru!!              turned to my side!!
You were destined
to follow me!          kisamanohontounotekiha       Your true enemy
                       watashidehanaihazuda.        shouldn't be me.


(ZERO)                 oreha omaega                 But I still hate you.
Maybe so, but I        kirainanosa.
still don't like
you!


(SIGMA)                CHIi!                        Damn!
Fine.
If you will not
follow me, then
I'll watch you die

once again!


(MEGA MAN)             ZERO!                        Zero!
Zero!


(ZERO)                 EKKUSU matasetana.           I kept you waiting, didn't
Sorry to keep you      daga aisatsuhaatode!(p)      I, X?  But the pleasantries
waiting, Mega Man X.   oretachiga                   will have to wait!(p) What
The greetings will     imasubekikotoha              we need to do now is
have to wait.
                       SHIGUMAwotaosukotoda!        to defeat Sigma!
We've got to defeat
all the                oreha konokichino            I'll destroy the
Mavericks including    MEINKONPYU-TA-wo             base's Main Computer.
Sigma!                 hakaisuru.
                                                    X!  You chase after Sigma!
I'll take out the      EKKUSU! omaehaSHIGUMAwo
main computer,and      oikakero!
you follow Sigma.
Let's go!


BOTH:

(ZERO)                 kokoda! EKKUSU!              Here! X!
Here it is, X!         konosakinoheyani SHIGUMAno   Sigma's true form is
Sigma lies just        hontaiga aruzo!              in that last room!
ahead!


Repliroid King, take 2
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(SIGMA)                dokomademo watashinojyamawo  No matter where, my annoyance
You are merely a       shitaitoiunokane...          wants to go at it and speak
bothersome insect,     EKKUSU!                      sweetly... X!
Mega Man X!
                       naraba PAWA-APPUshita        In that case, this Sigma's
It is about time       konoSHIGUMAga mizukara       power-up will personally
that I crush you       kisamawo yamini              kill you and bury you in
beneath my heel!       houmutteyarutoshiyou.        the oblivion of darkness.


--battle--

(SIGMA)                EKKUSU...                    X...
Mega Man X, I have
lost to you            konkaimo                     This time, too,
again...               watashinomakenoyouda.        I was defeated.

Each defeat only       ...dagawatashiha             ...but any degree of new
makes me stronger      nandodemoyomigaeri           power can be matched
and serves to bring    aratanachikarawo             by me.
you closer to your     erukotoga dekiru.
ultimate doom!                                      If you think your victories
                       kisamano shourinadohonno     and such at this time are
But, something is      hitotokinomonodeshika        worth anything -
not right.             nainoda!                     they're not!
I... don't quite
understand...          shikashi ZEROhanaze...       However, Zero.. why...
Why did Zero...        yatsuha... saigono...        he was.. the last of...
                       WAI.. NAN...ZUno...          Wi.. num.. bers....
He is ... last...
of the doctor's        guoooooooooo~!               Guoooooooooo~!
creations...

Arrrrrggggghhhhh...


A Time of Peace
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Joined by his friend Zero,    futatabiyattekita SHIGUMAnokyouiwoshirizoke
Mega Man X gazes out over     shinyuu·ZEROwo sukuidashitaEKKUSU
the sea.
                              HANTA-toshiteno ninmuwomattoushi
Sigma has once again been     ZEROtomitsumeru asahinoumiga
destroyed, but X wonders if   EKKUSUno tooikiokuwo yobisamasoutosuru
the fighting will truly end. 
                              EKKUSUha kangaeru
Was Dr. Light's dream of a    tsumetaiBODYIkara afurederu atsuichikarato
world in which reploids and   atatakana yasuraginowakewo
humans lived together in
peace merely a dream?         ningento kikai
                              aiirenu futatsunoseimeiga kyouzonsuru
The price of peace is often   heiwanasekai sorehakatsute
high, X thinks to himself.    hitorinokagakushaga nozondeyamanakatta
                              risoukyou
Who or what must be
sacrificed for it to become   mizukaranitakusareta
reality?                      RAITOhakaseno negaiwo
                              yagatekareha shirukotoni narunodarouka
And when the time comes,     
will he be able to do it?     EKKUSUyo
                              aratanaru tatakainimuke
The future holds the answers  sonochiisanasonzainonakani
or...                         himerareta ooinaruchikarawo
                              imhayukkurito yasumerugaii

                              konoheionnotokiga
                              karisomenomononi owaranukotowo inorinagara...


Once again, the threat of Sigma has been dealt with.
X has rescued his close friend, Zero.

Having fulfilled his duty as a hunter,
X watches the morning sun's reflection on the waters with Zero,
the sight calling his distant memories and causing them to awaken. 

X is thinking,
his cold body flooded with hot energy and
the warm sense of peace.

Humans and machines,
incompatible in their second try at coexistance.
A peceful world - one that
a single scientist wishes for and works towards.
Utopia.

Entrusted personally with
Dr. Right's wishes -
will it eventually become clear to him?

X.
You are destined for new battles
during your short existance,
but your great hidden power
can rest well a little longer.

This time of peace..
All one can do is pray that it never ends...



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Special Thanks:
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For translational advice and kanji lookup,
 EDICT ( http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e )
 BABELFISH ( http://babelfish.altavista.com/ )
 Boyer-Johnson Sensei ( pxb1203em@evsc.k12.in.us )
For Rockman X resources,
 Reeve ( reeve@megaman-x.com )
 Servbot 20 ( servbot20@rockmania.i-p.com )
For the Mega Man X2 script,
 Reeve ( reeve@megaman-x.com )
For forcing me to translate Rockman X in the first place,
 TDOMMX ( tdommx@hotmail.com )
For GameFAQs itself,
 CJayC ( gamefaqs@gamefaqs.com )
For making life worth living,
 Heather ( amazonessduo@hotmail.com )


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This is a derivitave work of material © CAPCOM 1994, and is done with
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...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #218 on: July 19, 2010, 08:50:15 PM
X1 script on GameFAQs, Vile battle on Sigma 1:
"I'll send you to be together with your precious Zero!!"

According to a japanese speaker at the time who was keeping tabs on the first reason these retranslations were being done (a retranslation ROM project), Vile says "Zero died like a dog" (died in vain) and that X will soon join him.

I don't remember exactly what "Boco" claimed to it, but ultimately that line was not in the patched ROM - and the guy overseeing the project (coding the changes and such) wasn't going to arbitrarily change it if it happened to be untrue.

So while you're not going to find anything glaringly-Yaoi-like, now that's some lot of poetic license there. Whenever things get fuddly-cuddly I'd take it with a grain of salt.

After all you're talking about someone who claimed Magma Dragoon is jealous of X and Zero's relationship and that's why he wants to destroy either of them.

And as for what the thread is... was about... the teaser didn't do anything for me.

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Reply #219 on: July 19, 2010, 08:57:19 PM
What Mr. Shin just said. Also:

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what?
Dunno bout that.

Maybe my mind's just in the gutter, but some of Sigma's lines seemed...odd. For Sigma, anyway.



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Reply #220 on: July 19, 2010, 09:35:06 PM
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And those are primarily artbooks.

Not Zero's. And the other two are full of developer interviews, highlighting the Japanese side of things.



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Reply #221 on: July 19, 2010, 09:38:58 PM
I'm sure there's still a lot of info that's not in MMOCW/MMXOCW. And I don't own MMZOCW, so I didn't realize that... ._.



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Reply #222 on: July 20, 2010, 01:13:49 AM
MMOCW/MMXOCW may be primarilly art books, but there's still a *LOT* of behind-the-scenes info regarding developer intentions and design inspiration.  Also some character descriptions that clarify previously ambiguous/unclear points, including specifying that Iris had the hots for Zero during Erasure (previous translations stated that in the context of saving her life, thus implying their relationship as new to the Repliforce War; this is not actually the case).

Rock points the 'gun', regardless.
I really need to stick to X/Zero/ZX/Legends (or at the very least, post-MM8).  It's what I'm good at.

Even though, you know, Timeman and Oilman suddenly exist.
No offense, but nobody should *NEED* to tell you why that point is moot.  The same criticism applies to all regions, thus it does not excuse Gauntlet neglecting PU for the sake of the U.S.

Quality isn't the issue here. It's for ease of reference.

We've established, when you previously granted genuine translation errors, that Xtreme2 does not take place in a bathroom, correct?  In what way is the Reploid Research Lavatory more difficult to reference than any legitimate setting?

-Inconsistent names everywhere. They can't even stick to their own stuff.
-The existence of Monsteropolis; that multi faceted land of robot-like humanoids.
-Roll going completely unmentioned and unnamed until MM3/MM4, and even then there are those sources considering her either a new character, or not a robot at all.
-Exclusion of a LOT of facts that were originally written in the manuals.
-Plasma Cannon versus a Rock Buster with Solar Bullets, in fact, MM4 made it sound like the Mega Buster was introduced in 4; it was only upgraded in 4.
-Time Skimmer, Chronos Institute, 37 something years into the future.

-Altered the game instead of properly translating them (X2, X3, X5, MM7, PU, ZERO, Legends, EXE4+.). Resulting in Serges' character being butchered, Vile being killed years ago while it wasn't nearly that long and Vile haunting X in his dreams while he should actually be reviving again and again, Wily being a comrade of X's, Rock being more than a robot when he isn't, ProtoMan outright exclaiming Light is his father when he wants nothing to do with Light, Rock being called "Blue Bomber" instead of "Original" by his copy, everybody making too many puns in an already overly cutesy game. A hand held gun being the Z-buster; rectified in Z-collection. Confusing what a Decoy is by naming them Carbons and somehow introducing yet another name; Betas. Confusing the mankind playback plan with what Juno was doing. Changing the origin of Rock Voulnutt's name. "What a fine young man she is.", abbreviating terms like crazy and cutting out a lot of content.

-The Reploid War lasting centuries while we're still in the same century (21XX)
-Zero acting weird to an anti-virus while he only acts weird to the virus itself.
-Exclusion of X's in-depth schematics and Right's deeper warning about worrying.
-Nearly all dates in Cain's Journal being off, two journal dates being unified as one, and there being stuff about Zero in the Sigma rebellion date.

-Lab accident before the unveiling of the first six robots in which one robots goes array and sets the lab on fire. An enraged Wily accusing Light of jealousy and intentionally sabotaging the experiment; which leads to Wily stealing the plans of the industrial robots and disappearing for several months.
-Rock being a courageous male human wearing a robot shell so that Wily cannot reprogram MegaMan.
-Rush transformations having impossible specs. No way Rush Marine can move that fast!
-Zero being X's trusted robocanine that died in X1. Aaarf, he wants one!

And I probably forgot a LOT of things.
Well, by simply listing "inconsistent names everywhere", you rule out most of the easy stuff.  It might be worth noting that it's not even just character names.  Force Armor and Great Legacy come to mind.

Items from earlier in the discussion not in that list are the missing 5th Command Mission newbie and the infamous Laguz Island bathroom of evil.

-I know that Marshmallow Man has contested the notion of Zero's "awakening" being incomplete in X5.  This is presumably not in the original script.

-Alia's last line in the Zeroless X6 ending was tweaked a bit to be more suggestive as to her having an attachment to X.

-"Mega Man" starring in X-series games has been going on as recently as X8.

-Pretty much all mentions of Cain in the X4 manual.  His creating Double, and the Cain Labs directive about restructuring the 17th and 0th Hunter Units (another manual point which is contradictory to the game storyline, I might add).

Posted on: July 19, 2010, 07:10:52 PM
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Too slow, Red.  But I'll clarify further.

He said that only of MMOCW/MMXOCW, not MMZOCW, which is both.  And really, all are both.  It's a matter of what the primary role is.  MMZOCW is the sole sourcebook of the Zero series.  MMOCW/MMXOCW add to existing Japanese books and thus primarily focus on art/development, but even so, there are a few nifty tidbits.  Ever wonder if Berkana ever had a legitimate occupation?  That's in there.

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Reply #223 on: July 20, 2010, 01:20:00 AM
Too slow, Red.  But I'll clarify further.

He said that only of MMOCW/MMXOCW, not MMZOCW, which is both.  And really, all are both.  It's a matter of what the primary role is.  MMZOCW is the sole sourcebook of the series.  MMOCW/MMXOCW add to existing Japanese books and thus primarily focus on art/development, but even so, there are a few nifty tidbits.  Ever wonder if Berkana ever had a legitimate occupation?  That's in there.

Sorry about the delete. Didn't know you read it.



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Reply #224 on: July 20, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
Every time Xtreme 2's Research Lavatory is mentioned, I chuckle a little.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.