Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (Wii, PS3, 360, iPhone)

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Reply #1300 on: September 26, 2010, 06:28:47 AM


Recommended, but for $15? Hmm... I guess I'll get it.



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Reply #1301 on: September 26, 2010, 07:30:10 AM
You know, call me stingy if you must, but the fact that this game is taking an episodic approach makes $15 sound pretty damn expensive.  Even only three episodes will put them just five bucks shy of typical new-release Wii disc.  Which makes the whole "side-scrollers aren't valuable enough for discs" thing even more obvious bull than it already is.

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Reply #1302 on: September 26, 2010, 07:49:54 AM
No reason to say stingy. 15 bucks is basically high-way robbery for a game that really should only be 8-10 bucks at the most.

But hey! Once again, we get another example of "Sega does what Nintendon't"! 8D



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Reply #1303 on: September 26, 2010, 07:53:58 AM
 o~O Well.......that's kinda ballsy.

I mean, if you're gonna charge $45 bucks, you might as well release the whole damn thing as one game on a disc for that much, rather than make people wait Episode by Episode right when they're getting into the game.

I dunno, this seems pretty stupid.



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Reply #1304 on: September 26, 2010, 07:59:23 AM
o~O Well.......that's kinda ballsy.

I mean, if you're gonna charge $45 bucks, you might as well release the whole damn thing as one game on a disc for that much, rather than make people wait Episode by Episode right when they're getting into the game.

I dunno, this seems pretty stupid.
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Reply #1305 on: September 26, 2010, 08:19:41 AM
But hey! Once again, we get another example of "Sega does what Nintendon't"! 8D

What are you talking about? Nintendo ain't good with prices at all. No first party Wii or DS titles go down in price, and some of the DS games go $5 higher than the standard $30 price point. They also don't have a Player's Choice line this generation, now that I think about it. Conversely, it didn't take long for Sega to drop House of the Dead Overkill and Madworld to $20.

But yeah, $15 for a part of a game does not sound like a good idea. I intended to wait until all of Sonic 4 was released and just play it all at once anyway. By then there should be a discount for the whole package. XBLA and PSN sometimes have sales too, so that's another reason not to get the Wii version I guess.


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Reply #1306 on: September 26, 2010, 12:23:24 PM
You're all now aware Sonic 4 will come in four parts, the whole thing totaling $60.

You're all also now aware that Sega will not do a physical release once all four parts are out.

You are now considering Sonic 4 Retro Remix, a hack of Sonic 1 being developed alongside Sonic 4, will be much better.



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Reply #1307 on: September 26, 2010, 08:03:40 PM
Four parts? That actually would justify the $15 price point if this is only a quarter of the game. I wasn't expecting more than three parts.

And another talking point than can be seen as defending the price: Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles were full price when they came out, right?


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Reply #1308 on: September 26, 2010, 08:19:45 PM
Four parts? That actually would justify the $15 price point if this is only a quarter of the game. I wasn't expecting more than three parts.

And another talking point than can be seen as defending the price: Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles were full price when they came out, right?

I think so. Just remember they were half of what they were, and you needed both to get the full game, (Sonic and Knuckles was a top-loader Genesis cart if I recall). Apparently what Sega's trying to do is re-live the S3&K experince by doing so in "episodes".


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Reply #1309 on: September 26, 2010, 08:27:08 PM
I think so. Just remember they were half of what they were, and you needed both to get the full game, (Sonic and Knuckles was a top-loader Genesis cart if I recall). Apparently what Sega's trying to do is re-live the S3&K experince by doing so in "episodes".


I have both games. Sonic and Knuckles has the lock-on part on top. Sonic 3 (and any other Genesis game) could be inserted on top of S&K.

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Reply #1310 on: September 26, 2010, 08:50:40 PM
You're all now aware Sonic 4 will come in four parts, the whole thing totaling $60.

You're all also now aware that Sega will not do a physical release once all four parts are out.

Honestly, it's still kinda stupid. If you're going to charge full disc price, then I don't see why they don't just release a physical disc of it. I mean, it's nice for gamers, for if they don't like it they can just not buy all of it. However, in terms of business, it's kinda stupid for the exact same reason.



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Reply #1311 on: September 27, 2010, 03:45:17 AM
I think that, since very little of Episode 2 is currently finished (story, lol), Sega is doing this mainly to gather input between episodes, similar to how they delayed Ep1.

It's still a sucky value proposition, though.  No Wii game costs 60 bucks, and for lack of the need to actually manufacture anything, a DLC title is expected to be cheaper.  The fact that Nintendo almost never adjusts pricing on their servers doesn't help any for the Wii owners.

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Reply #1312 on: September 28, 2010, 09:20:55 PM
iPhone on October 7th ( Across all territories. No price mentioned as of yet.)

Wii Shop Channel on October 11th (15th in EMEA countries) for 1500 points.

PlayStation Network on October 12th (13th in EMEA countries) for $14.99 / £9.99 / €12.99 / AU$19.95

XBOX Live Arcade on October 13th (across all territories) for 1200 points.

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Reply #1313 on: September 29, 2010, 04:21:55 AM
Same price all around then, thats just awful.

Iphone version will be the cheapest, most likely.



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Reply #1314 on: October 11, 2010, 12:44:39 AM
I'll just leave this here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzxiOu1LJfA[/youtube]



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Reply #1315 on: October 11, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
That was really cool. What was the gimmick in the old build? Cause I'm sure it wasn't as good as this. Riding the decks of cards around like Ice Man was awesome.


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Reply #1316 on: October 11, 2010, 02:58:09 AM
That... was... AWESOME!!! ^.^

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Reply #1317 on: October 11, 2010, 03:33:31 AM
That was really cool. What was the gimmick in the old build? Cause I'm sure it wasn't as good as this. Riding the decks of cards around like Ice Man was awesome.

Play a pinball machine to amass 100,000 points to clear the level. Here it is in the leaked 360 build:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n2A5Xv8M_U[/youtube]

This is the gimmick that stayed in place for the iPhone. It can actually be beaten in less than 30 seconds if you pause spam during the reels and manage to line up Jackpots twice.



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Reply #1318 on: October 11, 2010, 06:51:32 AM
So, who's getting this tomorrow?

I am, but thats because I'm a dedicated fan.  :\



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Reply #1319 on: October 11, 2010, 07:29:41 AM
As ready as I am to defend the game, I'm waiting for the entire Sonic 4 package to be released.

Play a pinball machine to amass 100,000 points to clear the level. Here it is in the leaked 360 build:

Oh yeah, I remember that now. This change was for the better. Pinball hasn't been fun since Adventure 1, and even then I don't think it was all that cool.


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Reply #1320 on: October 11, 2010, 08:17:18 AM
I would wait, but I have no [tornado fang]ing clue how long it will be between parts. And there are supposed to be four, correct? They could get the Second and Third done really quick but take ages on the fourth. That would drive me nuts.



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Reply #1321 on: October 11, 2010, 07:08:34 PM
Yeah, about that four parter business, sauce please?


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Reply #1322 on: October 11, 2010, 07:52:20 PM
I got Sonic 4 on the Wii about an hour ago

It is really great and i am now stuck on Casino Street Act 3

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Reply #1323 on: October 11, 2010, 10:20:02 PM
Yeah, about that four parter business, sauce please?

Hey, I got that from here when STM said it. I'm equally as unsure about the validity of this statement.



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Reply #1324 on: October 11, 2010, 10:26:23 PM
I know. I'm kinda directing that at him.


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