Topic: In the end, Zero's purpose came to pass.

[Flame]

In the end, when you think about it, Zeros intended purpose of destroying X came to pass after all.
The moment Zero entered the picture, X's fate was sealed already. without Zero, there would have been no maverick virus, without no Virus, there would have been no maverick wars, and X would not have had to fight for so many centuries. without the wars, there would have been no desperate research into curing Viral Maverick programs, Without Zero, Mother elf would never have been created by studying his body and connection to the virus. Without her, the elf wars would never have started, and X would not have been ultimately forced to sacrifice his body to seal away Dark Elf, and therefore would not have been killed by Elpizo lusting after Dark elf.

Zero may not have followed his mission to the letter, or even willingly, but in the end, it happened anyway.

[Akamaru]

His mission to is to kill X with his own hands and saber. Not to set a chain of events that eventually lead to his death. Its like throwing a bottle over a bridge and ends up the cause of death of a person 6 years later.

[Pringer X]

Weren't there Mavericks anyway? Sigma battled Zero when he first woke up and was crazy and while Sigma was still a good guy. Sigma was a Maverick Hunter before Zero showed up, meaning the Virus had to exist prior to Zero's awakening. Granted your theory is sound, there are a good bit of flaws to it.

[Align]

There were mavericks anyway, but certainly there wouldn't have been so many without the virus.
However, without Zero, X might've lost the first war...
Or not even fought.

[Acrosurge]

I suppose Wily's purpose in creating Zero was kind of fulfilled, but X's consciousness is fine and dandy, even by the ZX era.

[Flame]

back before Zero, there WERE mavericks, but no virus. Mavericks were for the most part, captured and repaired, as they went maverick due to problems with their electronic brains.
but since standard reploid design was so flawed, it happened VERY often, and in most cases, caused a lot of problems, such as the IHX mechaniloid shows. (even though it was controlled by sigma, the point still stands.) so the Hunters were formed.
in fact, the X1 manga itself shows them as more of a paramilitary organization, or even militaristic police.

[Acid]

I think Zero's purpose was to kill Mega Man directly. Wily couldn't have forseen this entire roundabout... like the Maverick Wars, Elf Wars, Neo Arcadia... unless... it went just as planned.

[Flame]

I suppose Wily's purpose in creating Zero was kind of fulfilled, but X's consciousness is fine and dandy, even by the ZX era.

yeah, but thats because by ZX he is technically revived. but from Z2, to pre-ZX, he counts as dead. his physical body was destroyed completely, all that remains is his soul. he can leave cyberspace due to his sheer power. once the control chip is destroyed, its considered a death. which is why technically, Zero only really died once in Z4, where he disintegrated upon atmospheric rentry.

Posted on: November 15, 2008, 01:26:22 AM

I think Zero's purpose was to kill Mega Man directly. Wily couldn't have forseen this entire roundabout... like the Maverick Wars, Elf Wars, Neo Arcadia... unless... it went just as planned.

he didnt, it was just destiny, to put it bluntly. as much as Zero tried, he couldnt escape his intention after all.

[MassKiller1]

Wasn't Zero's purpose to surpass Forte and destroy Rockman? I thought Dr. Light created X to counter Zero.

[Pringer X]

yeah, but thats because by ZX he is technically revived. but from Z2, to pre-ZX, he counts as dead. his physical body was destroyed completely. all that remains is his soul. he can leave cyberspace due to his sheer power. once the control chip is destroyed, its considered a death. which is why technically, Zero only really died once in Z4, where he disintegrated upon atmospheric rentry.

By that logic, Zero was dead by the start of the Zero series since he didn't have his actual body in the first place.

Besides, if Wily was THAT smart to have all that crap happen, wouldn't he have already done it when he was alive? Otherwise, why would he have continued to harass Mega Man? He wanted instant satisfaction and rather than go though THAT long of a waiting period (in which he wasn't even alive for), he would just have Bass literally shoot Mega Man right in the back of his head when he turned around. Seriously, this is a freakin' mad scientist we're talking about here, why go to SUCH lengths, if you're not even going to be able to see it come true?

Wasn't Zero's purpose to surpass Forte and destroy Rockman? I thought Dr. Light created X to counter Zero.

No, X was created as a new generation of robots, and at some point, Wily either managed to get a copy of the plans, or made them from scratch after hearing about X.

[Acid]

Wasn't Zero's purpose to surpass Forte and destroy Rockman? I thought Dr. Light created X to counter Zero.

You're not implying that Zero killed Rock and Co. Are you?

[Akamaru]

I think Zero's purpose was to kill Mega Man directly. Wily couldn't have forseen this entire roundabout... like the Maverick Wars, Elf Wars, Neo Arcadia... unless... it went just as planned.

Wily couldn't have forseen this. He only plans as far as him taking over the world with 8 robot masters, not with centuries of wars.

[MassKiller1]

You're not implying that Zero killed Rock and Co. Are you?

No I am not. Looking at all the evidence it's clear that no one knows what happened to Rockman after Rockman 9.

[Flame]

By that logic, Zero was dead by the start of the Zero series since he didn't have his actual body in the first place.

Besides, if Wily was THAT smart to have all that crap happen, wouldn't he have already done it when he was alive? Otherwise, why would he have continued to harass Mega Man? He wanted instant satisfaction and rather than go though THAT long of a waiting period (in which he wasn't even alive for), he would just have Bass literally shoot Mega Man right in the back of his head when he turned around. Seriously, this is a freakin' mad scientist we're talking about here, why go to SUCH lengths, if you're not even going to be able to see it come true?

first of all, READ: PHYSICAL BODY. please remind me why Phantom is considered dead.
Zero in the Z series HAS a physical body. he is considered alive. now, whats unknown, is  status when Ciel found him, as he'd been lying there unmaintained for a century almost, and was in terrible disrepair. in fact, in the remastered tracks, Ciel hears his voice before entering the room. Zero's disembodied voice questioning what she wants with him  and to leave him alone. I woulld say he was disembodied much like X, but when passy repaired and reactivated him, he was pulled back into his place. Then there the fact he cannot remember his past well. hibernation sickness my ass. his memory device was screwed up when Passy fixed him up.

also, ive already said Wily didnt forsee it.

[MassKiller1]

Flame knows well o.o

[Wanda Bear]

Hmmm....after Megaman 9 huh? Didnt Light's robots have experation dates? Maybe Rock was forced to get one after the law was passed and then they scrapped him and the rest of Light's bots. Light secretly took Rock's mind (or whatever he needed) and made X. That's a possible explaination given what news MM9 shows.

[MassKiller1]

Hmmm....after Megaman 9 huh? Didnt Light's robots have experation dates? Maybe Rock was forced to get one after the law was passed and then they scrapped him and the rest of Light's bots. Light secretly took Rock's mind (or whatever he needed) and made X. That's a possible explaination given what news MM9 shows.

In an interview Capcom states that Rockman and X are separate characters...one is not the other.

[Flame]

I hate the Rock is X theory almost as much as the cataclysm.

[MassKiller1]

Same here (even tho the Cataclysm is all BS...nice use of sprite o.o).

[Gaia]

Hmmm....after Megaman 9 huh? Didnt Light's robots have experation dates? Maybe Rock was forced to get one after the law was passed and then they scrapped him and the rest of Light's bots. Light secretly took Rock's mind (or whatever he needed) and made X. That's a possible explaination given what news MM9 shows.

They probably kept his expiration date on hold, because the world needed a savior if Wily ever attacks again. But in the end, Mega (Along with other robots) were put into a Robot Musem, for great honor to him when Wily "vanished" so he can begin building Zero, thus removing him from the mind of the public years later. (being in textbooks, perhaps) Light made a copy of his mind (As your point), just in case they needed a savior for the next few centuries. Rock's old data, however, was constantly put on replay on his "holy actions".

Now fast-foward to the X series. Zero was discovered before X (Sigma was there during an escort, meaning that Zero was intentionally the base for some police reploids, as now dubbed. however, during that clash, he went mad, but however, during a scene of MHX, He was probably told to do so by the reploid creator, being Dr Cain himself. however, during that final battle in X8, Axl was belived to be "dead" until his revival in ZXA.

However, now back to the Zero series, the elf wars has passed, "OLD X" has entered the history books, Copy X reigns supreme. Zero defeats him, and a chain of events happen afterward. Now that Weil was returned. Zero may have ententionally completed his task of ending X's life, aka, the copy. therefore, completing Zero's purpose while Wily was in glee in hell. (He has been watching the events from there, possibly)

.. Sorry if I went overboard and if it doesn't make sense, I thought the whole Mega thing needed a rant or two.

[Flame]

Now fast-foward to the X series. Zero was discovered before X

big flaw right there.  there would BE no Sigma to discover him if X hadnt been dug up first.

[MassKiller1]

big flaw right there.  there would BE no Sigma to discover him if X hadnt been dug up first.

What happened was that Zero was created first.

Also X had nothing to do with Zero's discovery (Zero was being all maverick to begin with).

[Flame]

that is not known for a fact. but X was most definetly discovered first as he is the model the reploid race is based on. without him, thered be no sigma to find Zero.

[MassKiller1]

Sigma was a reploid, meaning he was created using X's blueprints, basically implying that X was discovered first.

Actually in Rockman The Power Fighters if you play as Bass is shows that Wily already has Zero in production while Dr. Light and X are never together in the same sentence let alone a scene.

[Flame]

doesnt mean anything. Wily likes to boast and brag about his creations, and doesnt give 3 shits about their feelings. Bass doesnt give 3 shits either, as hes too busy boasting that hes more powerfull than anything Wily can dish out. Light is very humble, and modest. it would make sense that he kept X a secret from Rock and the others, especially Rock, not to make him feel that he was being replaced. Protoman also, would dislike the idea, and as he goes on his own accord, its unpredictable what he would do if he found out.