These robots were stolen and converted for combat by Dr. Wily.
Well, I'm not arguing about that. If we agree on that, I don't see why you're arguing with me.
Really though, I don't see what's so difficult about accepting them as Wily and Light's
None. Again, not talking about that. Of course, if we don't know what the sourcebook says on the matter, this is presuming and I'll toss some doubt at it.
but mostly Wily's
Because
now you're making stuff up. Fanon.... in a thread
about fanon. That's what I'm talking about.
So really, that's quite an over the top and pointless request. You have to settle for some uncertainty either way.
I don't like pointless debates and arguments. I don't like stringing together unoficial sources (which Ariga is) with what fans think characters ought to be like (which you're doing) and call it official. If you do that, you can toss in an "I think" in there.
I like cutting to the chase. The chase is making a scholorly reference. Which you can't do. But if you
could do it, that'd cut the BS. We wouldn't need theories, unofficial material, or any of this she-said he-said crap that's done whenever a debate is called on
anything MM. If you're not prepared to do that, or can't, then you should, at least, have the decency to admit that you might be wrong and allow the debate to end.
Forgive me for figuring you did have the sourcebooks. You go on like you do. If you could and did, though, that'd end the argument right away. Efficiantly. Quickly. And, in such a way that leaves no room for error. That's the benefit with checking your sources.
For this little point....
In the end, MMN and Auto both agree that Capcom says they're stolen. MMN says in full, Auto says in part. Ariga is not Capcom and ranks the same as Captain N, just better quality. The end. Stolen. As for whether they're mostly Wily's I don't agree; I think that's just what you tend to think because you like Ariga's designs as opposed to what's true.
And, for the record, I do trust Auto. Unfortunately he doesn't have his books on hand. He agrees witht he need for good souce siting. Maybe when / if he remakes RRC. I also trust MMN, even if Auto doesn't fully. But MMN does not cite their sources and it's unkown how much of their stuff is assumptions. Nor is the entry on Gemini entirely consistant with Auto's. So, there you go. The fact is the Megaman Community fails at entirely seperating fact from fanon which makes me doubt the purity of the data.
But mostly, I was hoping you'd just see if you might have forgot something and to clear it up without further argument.