Rockman X is Over

[Sakura Leic]

Honestly I think this was for the best.

[Hypershell]

I hate to be "that guy", who says that the world is better off for a game that I have little to no intention of playing being unavailable to the rest of the hemisphere just because.

But, here's the thing: In any sane world, XOver is not to be directed at us.  We know it, CoA knows it, the birds crapping on Sven's roof know it. It's a throw-away designed to stick Mega Man's name into the heads of people who are looking for a zero-value time waster.  Does CoJ know that? Honestly, not so sure. Problem is, we ARE being drawn to XOver for the sole reason that Capcom has jack [parasitic bomb] otherwise. It's NOT the game for us, but it's all we've got, and that in turn damages confidence in Mega Man as a brand.

XOver cannot carry the franchise.  Period.  CoA sees that and probably wants to at least hold off until it can run alongside something else.

[Archer]

[spoiler]But CoJ doesn't care about Megaman[/spoiler]

[Flame]

But CoA does, and can, with the right data, change opinions on brand viability. They ARE, still Capcom, after all. They do not have much creative freedom with brands, but their data on matters regarding a key franchise that is currently in stagnation hell, which they have NO idea what to do with, is important to CoJ. That's all they really want, data. numbers. They could give three shits about what every single Megaman fan in the world thinks, but if one of their branches gives them some numbers, that does mean something. At least more than anything anyone else tells them does.

[Hypershell]

It seems that ever since Legends 3 made it cool, truly anything and everything has to aspire to getting "100,000 Strong."

Well...I guess it'll be entertaining to see whether or not they can overtake the Mega Man Universe page...

[Sakura Leic]

I don't know what I should be more weirded out over.  The fact that X-Over got a page like that despite the fact it's only been delayed and not canceled, though I really shouldn't be surprised, or the the fact that the Universe Page still has under 200 likes, though I shouldn't be surprised by that either.  I also apparently liked the Universe page a while back though I barely remember that I did that.

[Protoman Blues]

It seems that ever since Legends 3 made it cool, truly anything and everything has to aspire to getting "100,000 Strong."

...you mean 100,00 Strong...

[Sakura Leic]

...you mean 100,00 Strong...

Oh god that's just hilarious.

[Flame]

I just don't know what to say to that. Except they have [parasitic bomb] taste if they care THAT much about Xover.

[Rin]

Or perhaps it's, you know, a troll.

[OBJECTION MAN]

MMU 100k Strong - Started 2011 - 150 likes total

lol

[Hypershell]

I know, right?  I try to keep that link handy whenever somebody claims that Legends 3 is only popular because it was cancelled.

It's amazing how taking Powered Up 2, giving it [parasitic bomb] controls, and trying to pass it off as the aesthetic middle ground between Disney's Tron and Angry Birds, doesn't get you much in the way of recognition.  The only thing that game proved was that Inafune actually CAN make "mega" catch-phrases sound badass.

[Archer]

I find it sad that you people complain about how much you want Legends 3 and put effort into only to then laugh in someone else's face when they do they same for something they want.

You are terrible hypocritical people.

[Flame]

I find it sad that you people complain about how much you want Legends 3 and put effort into only to then laugh in someone else's face when they do they same for something they want.

You are terrible hypocritical people.

>implying it's the same thing at all

[The Great Gonzo]

Tarbo-san is working on a mod to free Luka from the auto-scroll purgatory Capcom stuck him in.

[Archer]

>implying it's the same thing at all

but it is

someone wants something to come out that was cancelled

[Sakura Leic]

But it wasn't canceled, it was delayed.

[Archer]

But it wasn't canceled, it was delayed.

MMU

[Mirby]

MMU

not really a fair comparison

this is out in some form

mega man universe was cancelled before it was out at all

[Karasai♪]

Mega Man Universe was cancelled before they even made gameplay trailers

[Hypershell]

Actually, the opposite is true.  Not only were the trailers out there, but Universe was playable at public events before it was cancelled.  I got a taste of it myself.

I find it sad that you people complain about how much you want Legends 3 and put effort into only to then laugh in someone else's face when they do they same for something they want.

You are terrible hypocritical people.

First of all, all of my negativity was directed at the game, not the fans.  I'm laughing at a piece of programming, not at a group of people.

Second, I'll gladly be the hypocritical prick if that's what it takes to strike down the flawed logic of "the only reason anyone cares about Legends 3 is because it was cancelled".  Universe is the control group that proves it false.

Third, no it isn't the same. Nobody opened up development of Universe to the public, and granted full coverage of the initial greenlight meeting, only to cancel it without warning behind closed doors five months later.  Nobody ever said that the reception of a trial version of Universe would decide the game's fate and then pulled said trial before it could be received, after specifically asking the target audience to be patient for it following a nonspecific delay.

And perhaps most importantly: Mega Man Universe was nothing new.  It had the exact same strengths and weaknesses of Powered Up, which failed, and applied them to Mega Man 2, which Capcom had already spent the last two Classic installments dry-humping.

Make no mistake, despite my being unimpressed I still would have bought Universe if it came out.  And I'd have loved to see it overturn my expectations the way MM10 did.  But the bottom line is that Universe had a lot to prove, made a playable appearance, and through that playable appearance, proved nothing.  And all of that was before Inafune left; I'm not sure anyone besides him understood what exactly the game was supposed to be in the first place.  I can't in good conscience tell Capcom that they were wrong to cancel it.

Absolutely none of that is applicable to Legends 3.  The devs were psyched and on-track, the response from the extremely few who did play it was positive, and a full-featured 3D adventure could have gone a long way to establishing Mega Man as a relevant force in modern gaming, as opposed to the NES relic that he's otherwise been easily dismissed as ever since the nostalgic shock of MM9 wore off.  Capcom destroyed it all because it was a "dead brand" fueling a too-scary-open community.  Bull.  [parasitic bomb].

As desperately as I want the game, there's more to it than that.  They were wrong to cancel it, and doing so was a detriment to the franchise.  I happen to also really want to play Rockman Online, but I wouldn't throw the same weight behind it.

[Archer]

Third, no it isn't the same. Nobody opened up development of Universe to the public, and granted full coverage of the initial greenlight meeting, only to cancel it without warning behind closed doors five months later.  Nobody ever said that the reception of a trial version of Universe would decide the game's fate and then pulled said trial before it could be received, after specifically asking the target audience to be patient for it following a nonspecific delay.

Oh it's been a year and a half already, get the [tornado fang] over it.

Its the same.

I doubt even half the people who liked the 100,000 strong for Legends 3 thing even followed the devroom or even cared about it.

Not all Mega Man fans are as obsessed with Legends 3 as you are and may have even prefered MMU. While Legends 3 did have a lot more behind it is no good reason to laugh at their effort. Thats just sad.

[The Great Gonzo]

A year and a half with no answers or hints as to why it was canned.

Don't get me wrong, my rage has simmered down to a few flickering embers. But telling people who might want to know what the hell Capcom was thinking to "get over it"...urgh.

And didn't Hypershell just say that he wasn't trying to mock the people who wanted MMU?

[Reaperoid]

--withdrawn--

[megaman24681012]

Oh it's been a year and a half already, get the [tornado fang] over it.

Its the same.

I doubt even half the people who liked the 100,000 strong for Legends 3 thing even followed the devroom or even cared about it.

Not all Mega Man fans are as obsessed with Legends 3 as you are and may have even prefered MMU. While Legends 3 did have a lot more behind it is no good reason to laugh at their effort. Thats just sad.

Well it doesn`t matter now. We ain`t getting any Mega Man games for a LONG while.