Topic: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread

[Solar]

Yeah I never used a Gyarados, it takes too much to train it and it's never worth it.  I mean for crying out loud it's a flying type pokemon but it can't learn flying attacks not even Aerial Ace.  Arcanine can learn Aerial Ace no problem but not Gyarados who is a flying type not thanks that just makes him more vunerable for no reason.

I really doubt he'd be OU if it wasn't worth it. Besides, what does he need Aerial Ace for?

[Sakura Leic]

I really doubt he'd be OU if it wasn't worth it. Besides, what does he need Aerial Ace for?

I'm just saying why make him a Flying type if he can't learn any flying moves other than Bounce, which is a move that is learned by a bunch of non flyers anyway, through a move tutor.  It just makes him more vunerable for no reason.  Plus Bounce is just Fly with less accuracy, less attack power, and less PP but can Paralyze pokemon pretty well.

[Police Girl]

Yeah I never used a Gyarados, it takes too much to train it and it's never worth it.  I mean for crying out loud it's a flying type pokemon but it can't learn flying attacks not even Aerial Ace.  Arcanine can learn Aerial Ace no problem but not Gyarados who is a flying type not thanks that just makes him more vunerable for no reason.
So you didn't know that any tournament inside the games demands that you save and you went ahead and saved anyway? 

Honestly I like the Battle Frontier because I stay far far away from the Battle Factory myself and focus on the Battle Castle, Battle Tower, and ocassionally the Battle Arcade.

EDIT: Okay Gyarados can learn Bounce but I would never use Bounce or Fly in a real battle.

I just don't like the picky bitchy rules they have in the Battle Frontier, No Legendaries so you can't have any aces in the hole, Limited Item usage (Or none at all.), Restricted to 3 Pokemon, No Items allowed to be held by your Pokemon (No Leftovers, real nice.)

It feels like tournament rules. I don't play Tournaments, so I find it to be a massive crock of [parasitic bomb] Nintendo made to make Tourneyfags be Tourneyfaggish while not playing in a Tourney.

And again, its EV Training REQUIRED. if you just kill whatever comes your way like I do you won't win, because they WILL have better stats.

[Mirby]

Agreed completely.

[Gaia]

I never bought into the whole "Psychics are too powerful" complaints back then.  While it's true that there's no real way to hit them from a type-weakness standpoint (Ghost moves sucked too, regardless of Poison hybrid status), all first-gen Psychics with the exception of Hypno had high Speed but crappy Defense.  

Yeah, a hard-hitter can take 'em down pretty good, even if there's a fair enough level distance beteween the defender and the attacker. But some Spychic pokemon have moves that can make ghosts more vunrable to non-special moves, so that's a real benefit there.

[Solar]

I'm just saying why make him a Flying type if he can't learn any flying moves other than Bounce, which is a move that is learned by a bunch of non flyers anyway, through a move tutor.  It just makes him more vunerable for no reason.  Plus Bounce is just Fly with less accuracy, less attack power, and less PP but can Paralyze pokemon pretty well.

Think of it this way, it was either Flying or Dragon. Would you like to fight against a Water/Dragon Gyarados?

[Sakura Leic]

Think of it this way, it was either Flying or Dragon. Would you like to fight against a Water/Dragon Gyarados?

Well early on no, but it's still not a pokemon I would ever use.

[Police Girl]

Yeah, a hard-hitter can take 'em down pretty good, even if there's a fair enough level distance beteween the defender and the attacker. But some Spychic pokemon have moves that can make ghosts more vunrable to non-special moves, so that's a real benefit there.

Reminds me of some Pokemon Yellow fun that happened back in the day.

I was fighting Sabrina using my Pikachu and Snorlax, Pikachu fell to her Kadabra I think... Anyway, it was down to Snorlax and Alakazam. I had given Snorlax Metronome, and I was close to getting my ass beat. I try metronome to see if I can get anything good....

SNORLAX used TRANSFORM!

OH HELL YES!

I used Psychic on Alakazam, (Keep in mind I was close to dying.) and killed him.

Most amazing Metronome usage ever.

Too bad I was probably 9 or 10 when this happened.

[Solar]

I used Psychic on Alakazam, (Keep in mind I was close to dying.) and killed him.

How did that even happen.

[Gaia]

How did that even happen.

A weakness error most likely. Spychics could be hit hard from other spychic moves and deal good amounts of damage to them. That or it was due to Snorlax's origional sp.attack power that helped Psychic defeat the Alakazam.

[Solar]

But why would a sp.attack be influenced by the Attack stat? An sp.attack that would be not very effective AND against a pokemon with a high Special >_>

[Sakura Leic]

But why would a sp.attack be influenced by the Attack stat? An sp.attack that would be not very effective AND against a pokemon with a high Special >_>

It must of been very close to dying.

[Gaia]

But why would a sp.attack be influenced by the Attack stat? An sp.attack that would be not very effective AND against a pokemon with a high Special >_>

Gah, that was a post error! *fixes* ><  

It must of been very close to dying.

Either that or it was at a decent level, the snorlax was.

[Police Girl]

How did that even happen.

Sheer Luck? I think it was a critical hit... or it was close to dying... And Snorlax was I think around lvl 60 or something.

I don't really remember other than that Alakazam was beating my ass, I used Metronome, got Transform, and killed him with Psychic.

[VirusChris]

Luck also plays a big role a battle, and boy that must've been epic when that happened! ^_^


Well I finally got off my lazy butt and started off where I left off in Soul Silver getting the Boulder Badge, Volcano Bagde, and Earth Badge finally. Honestly I was kinda stumped on how to get the Poke Flute music on the PokeGear to play to wake up that Snorlax until I went back to Lavender Town and got the upgrade on the radio part to play the flute.

Well anyway I'm close to facing off with Red, but I need to go to Oak's first to put up my Kanto starter Pokemon. And it will always be Charmander, he will always have a special place in my heart as my most favorite starter Pokemon.



After that I'm going around to collect my ideal Pokemon Team and finally do that IV and EV training on them to make them the best. And I'm not going to have Final Evolution stages of my team as I want to see how far they can go from their First or Second Stage.



And to be on topic, what new feature on Pokemon Black and White do you like so far you've heard from the announcements? Personally I'm liking all of them, but the new Dream World catches my attention. An interesting idea and looks very cool. One feature I'm sad that's not returning, or seems like it, is having your Pokemon follow you around. It makes it more special and more closer to my Pokemon who's traveling alongside me.

At least give the ability if you want your Pokemon outside of the Pokeball or not. Or well, no real loss in gameplay.

Also do you think this new "evil" team, Team Plasma, really is evil or misguided? Kinda like how Team Magma and Aqua was in Ruby and Sapphire? I'm going with the latter judging by their conversation in an article about them.

[Shinigami No Tekken]

Luck also plays a big role a battle, and boy that must've been epic when that happened! ^_^

Pokemon Leafgreen, only Pokemon was Charmander, beating Brock's Geodude, having like 4 HP left, Charmander getting JUST enough EXP, learning Metal Claw, rock-blocked Onix. Got Boulderbadge.

2nd playthrough, went for a bit of a challenge.

[Solar]

Is Brock really any challenge with Charmander if it knows Ember? Because I don't remember having any trouble at all.

[Shinigami No Tekken]

Ember didn't do all that much damage. Unless you were like uberly overleveled. No. The only way to  beat Brock is either get a Butterfree with Confusion or have Charmander learn Metal Claw.

Or just not pick Charmander at all.

[AquaTeamV3]

There was always the fun method in Yellow that involved catching a Mankey.  You're far more likely to keep it in your party than Butterfree, too.

[Shinigami No Tekken]

There was always the fun method in Yellow that involved catching a Mankey.  You're far more likely to keep it in your party than Butterfree, too.

Yeah. That was real FUN.

Forgot about that.

But yeah. Catching a level 3 Caterpie and wandering in the small grass just south of Pewter for hours on end training is way easier.

[Police Girl]

There was always the fun method in Yellow that involved catching a Mankey.  You're far more likely to keep it in your party than Butterfree, too.

Aw yeah, I had to level that Mankey up HIGH, I ended up with a Primape I think... So it was obviously disobedient. (That was before my Yellow version save got Wiped.)

Ember didn't do all that much damage. Unless you were like uberly overleveled. No. The only way to  beat Brock is either get a Butterfree with Confusion or have Charmander learn Metal Claw.

It was probably harder back in the RBY days, where Metal claw was Non-existant.

[Sakura Leic]

Aw yeah, I had to level that Mankey up HIGH, I ended up with a Primape I think... So it was obviously disobedient. (That was before my Yellow version save got Wiped.)

Wait I thought that pokemon only became disobediant if you didn't originally owned them.

[Police Girl]

Wait I thought that pokemon only became disobediant if you didn't originally owned them.

I thought it was if the level got too high.

[Mirby]

It's both, I think. I spammed the box feature in Pokemon Stadium, and when I traded my lv100 Charizard to a new game, he never listened. But I think if you were to somehow get to an area with high-level Pokemon (like Route 46 in G/S/C that you can get high leveled pokemon early on, with some difficulty) and caught one, it would be disobedient as well.

[Ninja Lou]

I am to lazy to look this up but is White/Black a DS or 3DS game?