Topic: Metroid Discussion Thread

[irgpie]

Am i the only one who thinks Samus' voice fits perfectly? I was skeptical before about having her speak in this game period.

It's fine, I'd say. Sounds better than it did before. I could never understand why some people can actually rage over something like this. Although it's much worse with Zelda fans. ("a semi official game with terrible VAs and lame cartoon neither of which Nintendo was involved with is a perfectly legitimate reason for Zelda games not to have voice acting!")

also I'm worried there being no mention of Prime will lead to some people starting that "Prime is not canon" crap again.

[Satoryu]

I don't think they covered Prime there because the Trilogy mostly stands by itself. It doesn't really depend on the first game for setup, and nor does RoS depend on the Primes. They concentrated on the numbered games cause they all relate to the Metroids and Space Pirates.

And yes, Samus sounds great. But that doesn't mean Link should ever talk again.

[The Drunken Dishwasher]

That vid rubs off any bit o' smudge of worry I have left of Jessica Martin's performance~

I look forward to hearing it once more whenever the NA NC updates~

Oh yeah, there is supposively gonna be a new trailer of Other M to be shown at GTTV tonight at 12:30 AM Pacific time for NA television most likely.  

[geekgo4]

I don't think they covered Prime there because the Trilogy mostly stands by itself. It doesn't really depend on the first game for setup, and nor does RoS depend on the Primes. They concentrated on the numbered games cause they all relate to the Metroids and Space Pirates.

And yes, Samus sounds great. But that doesn't mean Link should ever talk again.

Well, Link wasn't meant to talk(nor be a character at all) in the first place. He was suppose to be an AVATAR!

Zelda, Ganon, and the rest of the NPC's, however, have no excuses. They really couls have good voices.

[Satoryu]

That I absolutely agree with.

[Flame]

God damn it, he set the video to private now.

I dont suppose someone managed to snag it before then, no?

[Klavier Gavin]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1CHQ2YOFTc[/youtube]

Posted on: August 13, 2010, 11:32:51 PMExclusive Action Trailer

[The Drunken Dishwasher]

DAT NEW TRAILER!!! 

[Zan]

Well, Link wasn't meant to talk(nor be a character at all) in the first place. He was suppose to be an AVATAR!

Zelda, Ganon, and the rest of the NPC's, however, have no excuses. They really couls have good voices.

Link already talked in Sound and Drama.

[Ephidiel]

i just noticed now but the grapple beam is on the wrong arm ;__;

[irgpie]

i just noticed now but the grapple beam is on the wrong arm ;__;

It was originally on the right arm in Super Metroid.

[Police Girl]

Oh nice, 3D Speed Booster and ShineSpark. Hopefully we don't have any MorphBall Shinesparking required to get some expansions.

Also, is that the ability to turn Abilities on and off? I'm liking this game more and more every time I see it.

[Hypershell]

But that doesn't mean Link should ever talk again.

EXCUUUSE ME, Princess!

Link already talked in Sound and Drama.

Further, ever since LttP, there have been obvious instances where Link is speaking to the NPCs, his dialogue either being represented by a bunch of ellipses or a brief darkening of the screen.  Link's silence is a matter of presentation, not of character, and there is a HUGE difference.  It works for a text-only game where the player is expected to use their imagination, but in a voiced title, a silent hero is an uninvolved hero.  And that's not who Link is.  Look at Twilight Princess, he's the friendly village go-to guy, and big brother to all the kids.  A character like that ceases to be believable if everyone's talking to him and he never says a word in return.

This is why I despise the "IGN Zelda mentality" of Link remaining silent in an otherwise fully voiced game.  It's naive and ignorant, first of all, to claim a presentational issue as a character development issue.  Further, I've seen the "silent hero in a voiced game" treatment in Dragon Quest 8 already, and it accomplishes absolutely nothing except to make the main character boring and shift virtually all focus to the supporting cast.

Posted on: August 15, 2010, 03:38:30

also I'm worried there being no mention of Prime will lead to some people starting that "Prime is not canon" crap again.

I suggest we hog-tie and castrate all people who suggest this of ANY video game series without either an extremely heavy contradiction or a developer statement as evidence.  The willingness of fans to selectively ignore titles never ceases to amaze and annoy me.

[Phi]

Look at Twilight Princess, he's the friendly village go-to guy, and big brother to all the kids.  A character like that ceases to be believable if everyone's talking to him and he never says a word in return.

sucks for you, then.

a silent hero is an uninvolved hero.

I disagree.

Having him not speak is one of the things that makes him a unique character in my book. We already know that he is an established hero/warrior, and it's really up to the player to decide how exactly he relates to the situations that follow throughout the game; whether it's trying to rescue the princess or pressing onward to defeat Ganondorf. To me it's almost like having a created character, and (as cheesy as it may sound) going through the game somewhat through your own eyes. It also creates a slate for people to speculate on what type of personality Link has. And even then, Nintendo has had Link demonstrate a variety of facial expressions (like the feeling of "shock", pain, joy or nervousness).

Link is already given courage and bravery, and that should be enough.

[Fxeni]

sucks for you, then.

I disagree.

Having him not speak is one of the things that makes him a unique character in my book. We already know that he is an established hero/warrior, and it's really up to the player to decide how exactly he relates to the situations that follow throughout the game; whether it's trying to rescue the princess or pressing onward to defeat Ganondorf. To me it's almost like having a created character, and (as cheesy as it may sound) going through the game somewhat through your own eyes. It also creates a slate for people to speculate on what type of personality Link has. And even then, Nintendo has had Link demonstrate a variety of facial expressions (like the feeling of "shock", pain, joy or nervousness).

Link is already given courage and bravery, and that should be enough.

I think you misinterpreted his post. He was explaining why he's for Link being silent, but he thinks the NPCs should remain silent as well to keep the illusion going stronger. I'd have to agree with him in this case.

[Phi]

I think you misinterpreted his post. He was explaining why he's for Link being silent, but he thinks the NPCs should remain silent as well to keep the illusion going stronger.

Hmm... i guess you're right (this is what happens when you post right after recovering from a flu). Well, looks like my entire post went to [parasitic bomb] now in terms of the argument, huh?

Either way, my opinion still stands.

[dragontamer272]

You know what's crazy? All the time I mentioned here (and other sites) that I freakin' hated Metroid so much so many times... but now... I seem to like it.

I kinda do look forward to Metroid Other M, a game for 2D (Platformer) and 3D (FPS) fans.

The only Metroid games I own so far are: Metroid Prime (also included a Bonus Disc for MP 2: Echoes), Metroid Fusion, Metroid (unlocked by using NGC GBA Cable), and Super Metroid (downloaded on my Wii).

But by far, my favorite game is "Metroid Fusion".

[Protoman Blues]

The willingness of fans to selectively ignore titles never ceases to amaze and annoy me.

Then they should've made X7 and the Xtreme games better! 

[Kieran]

Exclusive Action Trailer

I definitely see the Varia Suit in that trailer, but strangely it doesn't have the fins on the shoulders either.  Oh well.  Looks like I was right, anyway... the suit she starts the game with is the vanilla Power Suit.

[ViperAcidZX]

Other M is starting to get more and more interesting for me.

Well my favorite games from the Metroid series Metroid Prime 1 (the original release without the Echoes Bonus Disc), Super Metroid (played this on emulator though I'm planning to download this to my Wii), Metroid Prime Triology, and the NES Metroid (played this on Metroid: Zero Mission). Though my personal favorite is Zero Mission; really did a good job recreating the NES Metroid along with the addition of items from the other games like the Speed Boost and implemented Samus' abilities like wall jumping into the game.

[Hypershell]

My favorite Metroid is Zero Mission.  The soundtrack to that game kicks ass beyond all sane reasoning.

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Freaking awesome in every sense of the word.

Hmm... i guess you're right (this is what happens when you post right after recovering from a flu). Well, looks like my entire post went to [parasitic bomb] now in terms of the argument, huh?

Either way, my opinion still stands.

Fox pretty much had it.  What I'm saying is that IF they were to voice Zelda games, it'd be stupid to leave Link out of it.  But I'm fine with the current presentation of Link as a silent hero in a text-dialogue game.  I just don't believe that presentation works in a fully voiced game, which is something I've seen a lot of the gaming press push for.  "Voice the entire supporting cast, but leave Link silent."  Rubbish, I say.

Then they should've made X7 and the Xtreme games better!  

*gives him ZEE UPPERCUT!!*
You mean X7 and Xtreme1.  Xtreme2 cannot possibly be any better without migrating hardware.  Not a bad idea, mind you, but it's as good as any GBC X game will ever get.

Speaking of which, I will GLADLY take Xtreme2's dash mechanics, with the blessing that is proper air-dash momentum, over Bass's in MM10.  That dash-jump lag is intolerable.

[Tenshi]

 That new Metroid trailer made me wet myself with it's sheer awesomeness.

[OBJECTION MAN]

You know what's crazy? All the time I mentioned here (and other sites) that I freakin' hated Metroid so much so many times... but now... I seem to like it.

I kinda do look forward to Metroid Other M, a game for 2D (Platformer) and 3D (FPS) fans.

The only Metroid games I own so far are: Metroid Prime (also included a Bonus Disc for MP 2: Echoes), Metroid Fusion, Metroid (unlocked by using NGC GBA Cable), and Super Metroid (downloaded on my Wii).

But by far, my favorite game is "Metroid Fusion".

Gee I thought Super Metroid was the worst game ever according to you. See now, this is what happens when you actually play the game before forming a retarded opinion.

[Satoryu]

Man, where'd all the Zero Mission love come from all of a sudden? I thought I was the only one who liked that game the most.

[Hypershell]

I guess you never heard me talk about Metroid before.  Zero Mission isn't just my favorite Metroid, it's pretty much my favorite GBA game.