Best and Worst Armors?

Started by AquaTeamV3, September 01, 2009, 04:19:37 AM

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Galappan

Best Armor for me is X4 Armor.  I have no complains with each part even the stock buster charge part which I learned to appreciate lately.

For the worst I think is X3 Armor. The double air dash is good but the charge shot is awkward. That's why sometimes when I played X3 I just leave the buster part untouched.

Magnus Ragnar

Personally I hold the X1 Armor as the best, mainly because I cannot stand the original X1-X6 enough to play them alot.(total possible foes made with that sentence: S*** loads.) I play MHX a lot which is why i say X1's Armor kicks ass.

I have played through them all(YAY ANNIVERSRY COLLECTION) but they just didn't have a certain charm to them. I blame X8 and all it's awsomeness for that, if only because it was 3D graphics on a 2D plane. Though i do recall most of the armors i managed to get without getting frustrated to death, I didn't play the games long enough to notice anything useful about them. Though the Hover on the Force/Fourth/Ultimate armor got me killed more the once because i kept accidentally triggering it. I did like the Shadow Armor, though.

I can hold up X7's Glide Armor as the ultimate in FAIL because of how utterly stupid it was. I don't recall the charge on the buster for it, but then again I haven't played X7 in freaking YEARS. I've long-sence given the game to Sapphire Knight so i don't even have it anymore to know how horrible it was. The Giga Crush sucked, the Glide was near-useless, i don't even remember what the Helmet did, and the buster just let you charge Boss Weapons(if it had anything else i don't remember).

The Neutral Armor is easily my favorite because of how you can customize it. I never used the Icarus or Hermes armors, i just took the parts i liked best from both sets and used them(A combonation i dubbed the "Icarmes Armor" because i felt like it) until i managed to unlock the Ultimate Armor.

Align

Quote from: Flame on September 13, 2009, 09:59:04 PM
I would think so. unless like X3, you can get up to that by upgrades and power ups.
Well yeah. It was in the context of the MMZ doublejump, which requires a chip, so...
Played a fangame, the name of which I forget, which was easy to hate but had many cool moves for Zero (Shadow airdash, for one) and no limits whatsoever on them. [tornado fang]ing hard despite that, and not in a very good way, but the lategame flying around as invinci-Zero was pretty awesome.

Keno

Quote from: Flame on September 14, 2009, 03:44:30 AM
For once, I kinda agree with you on this one. A game should be challenging enough that it lasts a good while, while not lasting forever.
I guess. The longer the better IMO.

Soultrigger

Quote from: Pyro Magnus on September 14, 2009, 09:27:16 AM
I can hold up X7's Glide Armor as the ultimate in FAIL because of how utterly stupid it was. I don't recall the charge on the buster for it, but then again I haven't played X7 in freaking YEARS. I've long-sence given the game to Sapphire Knight so i don't even have it anymore to know how horrible it was. The Giga Crush sucked, the Glide was near-useless, i don't even remember what the Helmet did, and the buster just let you charge Boss Weapons(if it had anything else i don't remember).
Really? I thought the glide was useful...
By the way, the Buster part added homing shots to the charge shot (useless, but apparent), and the Helmet attracted nearby items I believe.

Does the X4 Black Zero count as an armor? The only thing that was useful for was cool points...>_>


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Keno

The homing shots rocked. They dealt extra damage, allowed multiple enemy kills much better in a 3D environment, & kept track of disappearing enemies, namely Red & Sigma. The Glide Armor rocked.

Seriously though, the X2 armor is crap. Letting go of ladders to fire is never OK. As if X is incapable of grabbing it with his other hand. That was like the stupidest bullshit ever.

Flame

Glide armor was BARELY useful. the only real things the glide was good for was rescuing the God damn reploids and fighting Red. THATS IT. It lost altitude too quickly for any more usage than that.

X2 armor had Giga crush though. And Shoryuken. And one of the BEST busters in the series.
Quote from: marshmallow man on April 25, 2010, 04:55:26 PM
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

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Quote from: Keno on September 15, 2009, 07:13:23 AM
Seriously though, the X2 armor is crap. Letting go of ladders to fire is never OK. As if X is incapable of grabbing it with his other hand. That was like the stupidest bullshit ever.

Yeah, but often do you actually need to fire off of a ladder in X2?  That's a pretty small con on a very large list of pros.  Heck, you fell off of ladders in MM3 when you opened the menu, but that doesn't stop the game from being awesome.
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Flame

X2-X3, double shot attacks make you fall off the ladder. Because you switch rapidly to the second buster. Just ask Zero.

Hell, in X3, Zero falls off the ladder just by using the saber. Doesn't stop him from being broken though.
Quote from: marshmallow man on April 25, 2010, 04:55:26 PM
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

Satoryu

is there a point in X2 where you absolutely HAVE to climb a ladder? i can't thinmof a place with a ladder that doesn't also have walls surrounding it. not only is wall jumping faster than climbing ladders, but firing the double charge from the wall has no delay.

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Align

Limitations are limitations, even if circumventable..

Keno

Exactly. Over complicating things in such a manner that things stop working is retarded.

Hypershell

You know, I don't think I can EVER recall having, or even trying, to fire from a ladder in X2.  I noticed Ultimate Buster disarming Shadow Armor's ceiling attack more than I noticed releasing a ladder for double-charges in the SNES...

Quote from: Pyro Magnus on September 14, 2009, 09:27:16 AM
Personally I hold the X1 Armor as the best, mainly because I cannot stand the original X1-X6 enough to play them alot.(total possible foes made with that sentence: S*** loads.) I play MHX a lot which is why i say X1's Armor kicks ass.
Oh, the cruel irony of that statement.  MHX's buster is so gimped compared to the SNES...

QuoteI don't recall the charge on the buster for it, but then again I haven't played X7 in freaking YEARS.
Understandable considering that the "main" shot is unchanged.  What it does is add three smaller seeker-shots around your blast.  Very small, and thus easy to miss.  The main blast carried over from unarmored is so ridiculously powerful as-is that you don't notice the upgrade all that much.

Quotei don't even remember what the Helmet did
Lets you grab power-ups from a SLIGHTLY longer distance.  Pretty worthless.

Quote from: Soultrigger on September 15, 2009, 05:54:23 AM
Does the X4 Black Zero count as an armor? The only thing that was useful for was cool points...>_>
Black Zero period does not count as an armor as per Light's own statement in X5.  A palette-swap, whether it pertains to an enhancement or not, is not an armor, otherwise we get into X's special weapons, Z2's forms, and Z3/4's Body Chips.

Quote from: Aqua on September 15, 2009, 03:13:41 PM
Heck, you fell off of ladders in MM3 when you opened the menu, but that doesn't stop the game from being awesome.
No, the ridiculous lag time when firing an enhanced buster shot took care of that.
(foolishly misread the quote)

X3 was awesome when it was new, nobody cared, and all the oddities about it (multiple Ride Armors, capsules beyond the basic four, Zero) were actually fresh.  These days it hasn't aged so well IMHO, although it does retain a few strong points.
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Quote from: Hypershell on September 16, 2009, 12:52:38 AM
X3 was awesome when it was new, nobody cared, and all the oddities about it (multiple Ride Armors, capsules beyond the basic four, Zero) were actually fresh.  These days it hasn't aged so well IMHO, although it does retain a few strong points.

Like the best Zero theme in all of MegaMan!   8D

Bag of Magic Food

Quote from: Hypershell on September 16, 2009, 12:52:38 AM
A palette-swap, whether it pertains to an enhancement or not, is not an armor,
Sure it is.  It's armor in the exact same shape as the wearer's body.  8D

Quote from: Hypershell on September 16, 2009, 12:52:38 AM
No, the ridiculous lag time when firing an enhanced buster shot took care of that.
Enhanced buster shot?  In Mega Man 3?   o~O   Wait, which game are you referring to now?

Hypershell

I apologize, I misread the post.

Quote from: Protoman Blues on September 16, 2009, 12:54:54 AM
Like the best Zero theme in all of MegaMan!   8D


I don't know how anyone can even pick a "best Zero theme" these days, with how many badass ones there are.  But just off the top of my head I'd say that X2's and X5's are both much higher up there than X3's.
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X5's theme is X vs. ZERO, and therefore doesn't count.  Unless of course, you mean X5's Opening Stage Zero theme, which is by far his worst opening theme!   8)

X2's is good, but too short, repetitive and not as heroic!  X3 IS THE BEST!   8)

Flame

X5,s Zero openign theme was pretty good, but coming from X4, made it sound bad.

X4 and X3 for me. X4 is pretty damn bad ass for Zero. likewise, X's best themes, (not counting the highwas from X1 because that is automatic win already) are his... actually, I cant think of a theme X has had that WASNT good.
although imagine a MHX3?
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Quote from: marshmallow man on April 25, 2010, 04:55:26 PM
...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

Bag of Magic Food

I was thinking once that if I ever made a Let's Play video of Hugo 2: Whodunit, I would start dubbing Zero's entrance music from X3 onto it after gaining control of Penelope.

(Now I wish I had been able to get further in that game, as I read some spoilers for it just now, and I found out there's a Doctor Who reference in it.)

Fxeni

The only ladder in X2 where I can possibly think of the double charge shot being remotely a problem is in Morph Moth's stage right before the X-Hunter's room, mainly due to the position of the wall next to it. Otherwise, bitching about the double charge shot dropping you off the ladder is kind of pointless, as others have noted.

The intro stage music in X3 was probably the game's strongest point musically, both (I guess you could consider it)X's and Zero's themes. Most of the other songs in that game paled in comparison, especially the Boss and Doppler's Boss themes. Man those hurt.

Saber

Quote from: Hypershell on September 05, 2009, 04:47:54 PM
Still, it'd have been nice to have Ultimate Armor and Black Zero in the same file.

That's easy. Grab the upgrade with one character, drop into a pit until all your lives are gone, return to stage select, take the other character and do the level again with the other.



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Quote from: Protoman Blues on September 16, 2009, 01:06:15 AM
X5's theme is X vs. ZERO, and therefore doesn't count.  Unless of course, you mean X5's Opening Stage Zero theme, which is by far his worst opening theme!   8)

X2's is good, but too short, repetitive and not as heroic!  X3 IS THE BEST!   8)

X5 Zero's opening, when it starts of is kick ass, but I'll admit I didn't like the rest of it.
Also which X3 are you talking about? bVd

Zan

Quote from: Saber on September 16, 2009, 02:25:11 PM
That's easy. Grab the upgrade with one character, drop into a pit until all your lives are gone, return to stage select, take the other character and do the level again with the other.

That's a different game, Saber.

Saber

Quote from: Zan on September 16, 2009, 04:53:44 PM
That's a different game, Saber.

He was talking about X5 the sentence before that. Or my eyes are broken...



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