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ParasiteBirth · **Reply #25 on:** July 24, 2009, 08:56:51 AM

Hm.....

Why doesn't Megaman Shoot Wily?

1. Who would be the enemy then? where would be the danger? where would be the sequels?? -God bless MM9-

2. Seriously, can there be a better Evil scientist than Wily himself? its IMPOSSIBLE to create better than him! he is too loved as an antagonist to be -SHOT!-

3. No one can take his place, and we need him, who else would be the mad scientist to go on making such bad ass robots to fight with and escape by luck to finally reappear countless times?

I understand your point, to bring justice and save the world, Mega should have shot wily since long.. but story-wise he isn't -capable- of that.

CyberXIII · **Reply #26 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:04:03 AM

Why can't Mega Man simply shoot Dr. Wily? Someone keeps mentioning the Laws of Robotics or some other shite, but I don't remember that ever being mentioned in the games...

Fxeni · **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:13:10 AM

I think it's moreso that it goes against Rock's preprogrammed morals.

The Great Gonzo · **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:15:56 AM

Also, there's the law to consider. And I'll bet the humans would freak out if they knew Megaman was capable of killing them, Wily or no.

~~Plus, Capcom would have to bring in a new Big Bad. I think they like Wily too much to do that.~~

Irgendein · **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:16:43 AM

Quote from: CyberXIII on August 10, 2009, 04:04:03 AM

Why can't Mega Man simply shoot Dr. Wily?

Didn't you already make a topic about this? >_>

EDIT: Nevermind, it's been merged...

The Great Gonzo · **Reply #30 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:17:22 AM

And one right before/after this? Slow down, man.

VixyNyan · **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:18:38 AM

Yey, I can merge~

CyberXIII · **Reply #32 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:32:18 AM

Quote from: Irgendein on August 10, 2009, 04:16:43 AM

Didn't you already make a topic about this? >_>

EDIT: Nevermind, it's been merged...

Good lord, now I know I'm getting old and senile...

Someone hit me.

Bag of Magic Food · **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2009, 07:30:25 AM

Quote from: The Great Gonzo on August 10, 2009, 04:15:56 AM

Plus, Capcom would have to bring in a new Big Bad. I think they like Wily too much to do that.

Nah, they can just invent some new mad scientist named Dr. Cossack or something, who's even more evil than Wily!

Nexus · **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2009, 07:50:37 AM

Methinks fans are still going nuts about the "Die Wily" scene in Megaman 7, despite his canon "pacifistic" nature. Do note, that MM/RM 7 was also the only Classic series game that had [alittle] blood, and Bass did have some minor cursing in the original japanese script. I think that the MM/RM team still had some "darker" influences from when they made Mega Man X / Rockman X beforehand.

Quick Addition: This knowledge isn't 100% confirmed. It's been awhile since I bothered to check sources.

Gauntlet101010 · **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2009, 08:48:10 AM

It's X who has the pacifistic nature, the classic Megaman is more childlike and nieve.

Anyhow, even if the rule in the MM universe is "no robot can kill a human" Asimov's rule is "no robot can harm a human". So it doesn't follow Asimov any way you slice it.

Turian · **Reply #36 on:** November 07, 2009, 06:04:19 PM

Mega Man was just blowing off some steam. He has to big of a heart to kill a living creature. It's just not in his nature. Zero, on the other hand....lol.

Zan · **Reply #37 on:** November 07, 2009, 07:11:33 PM

Quote

Anyhow, even if the rule in the MM universe is "no robot can kill a human" Asimov's rule is "no robot can harm a human". So it doesn't follow Asimov any way you slice it.

"X" IS THE FIRST OF A NEW
GENERATION OF ROBOTS WHICH
CONTAIN AN INNOVATIVE NEW
FEATURE - THE ABILITY TO
THINK, FEEL AND MAKE THEIR
OWN DECISIONS. HOWEVER THIS
ABILITY COULD BE VERY DAN-
GEROUS. IF "X" WERE TO BREAK
THE FIRST RULE OF ROBOTICS,
"A ROBOT MUST NEVER HARM
A HUMAN BEING", THE RESULTS
WOULD BE DISASTROUS AND I
FEAR THAT NO FORCE ON EARTH
COULD STOP HIM.

VixyNyan · **Reply #38 on:** November 07, 2009, 07:35:52 PM

Flame · **Reply #39 on:** November 07, 2009, 08:38:47 PM

Thread over.

Gauntlet101010 · **Reply #40 on:** November 07, 2009, 08:54:52 PM

Took two months to correct me on that. You guys are slipping.

Of course, MM still shoots directly at Wily in every single MM game he's ever in. And causes the vehicle he's in to explode. Which pretty clearly puts Wily in harms way. So, Asimov's rules FAIL in the MM universe.

Bag of Magic Food · **Reply #41 on:** November 07, 2009, 09:58:29 PM

No force on Earth can stop Original MegaMan! He is disastrous!

Rin · **Reply #42 on:** November 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM

Wait, wasn't this whole "DIE WILY" thing only in english version? I could be wrong tough.

VixyNyan · **Reply #43 on:** November 07, 2009, 10:37:36 PM

Yea it was in the English one. The Japanese one has Rock just being quiet. ^^

Flame · **Reply #44 on:** November 07, 2009, 11:21:17 PM

Then what are we arguing about?

VixyNyan · **Reply #45 on:** November 08, 2009, 01:22:07 AM

There's an argue because...

Protoman Blues · **Reply #46 on:** November 08, 2009, 01:28:05 AM

LoL, how dramatic!

Zan · **Reply #47 on:** November 08, 2009, 01:34:18 AM

Quote from: Gauntlet101010 on November 07, 2009, 08:54:52 PM

Took two months to correct me on that. You guys are slipping.

Of course, MM still shoots directly at Wily in every single MM game he's ever in. And causes the vehicle he's in to explode. Which pretty clearly puts Wily in harms way. So, Asimov's rules FAIL in the MM universe.

I'm more surprised why nobody jumped on Turian for Necromancy before that.

And really, it's not that Asimov's three rules of robotics don't apply to Rockman/MegaMan, it's just that they don't apply in the same way as Asimov uses them; instead of being literally coded into a robot, they're rules that are kept in mind when making robots.

Gauntlet101010 · **Reply #48 on:** November 08, 2009, 02:06:22 AM

Quote from: Zan on November 08, 2009, 01:34:18 AM

I'm more surprised why nobody jumped on Turian for Necromancy before that.

And really, it's not that Asimov's three rules of robotics don't apply to Rockman/MegaMan, it's just that they don't apply in the same way as Asimov uses them; instead of being literally coded into a robot, they're rules that are kept in mind when making robots.

Edit:
No, no ... least I be drawn into another debate. I'll just leave it at a vague, "I don't see any evidence of Asimov's rules practically applied in the classic MM universe" and leave it at that. Other people can debate all they like.

Thanatos-Zero · **Reply #49 on:** November 08, 2009, 02:36:13 AM

Quote from: Vixy on November 08, 2009, 01:22:07 AM

There's an argue because...

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