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Reply #175 on: October 24, 2013, 07:04:11 AM
So many people are going crazy over this latest episode. Some went as far as to say it was one of the best episodes of the entire franchise.

I... don't really understand the hype. It was a great episode, sure, but something felt off to me.

Didn't Avatar Roku explain in the first series that the dragons were the ones who taught humans how to firebend? Yet, here is the lion-turtle, granting everyone with the power of fire. Might be a plot inconsistency. In this episode, the dragons simply seemed to influence Wan in using bending as an extension of his body, but the power itself doesn't come from them.

Other than that, it was certainly a fun watch. I'm hoping the real meat will come in the next episode.



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Reply #176 on: October 24, 2013, 07:12:56 AM
The Lion Turtles just gave the elements to the people, but they learned how to Bend from the dragons/sky bison/badger moles and so forth. Before Wan learned how use it, he would simply shoot it out. (No seriously, me and practically all the NYCC crowd squee'd when he was doing the Dragon Dance).



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Reply #177 on: October 24, 2013, 07:18:38 AM
My friends and I squee'd when he did that too. :D

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Reply #178 on: October 24, 2013, 07:27:07 AM
The Lion Turtles just gave the elements to the people, but they learned how to Bend from the dragons/sky bison/badger moles and so forth. Before Wan learned how use it, he would simply shoot it out. (No seriously, me and practically all the NYCC crowd squee'd when he was doing the Dragon Dance).

Ahhh, okay. That makes much more sense.

I always knew the badger moles helped Toph control her bending, but for some reason, I had it in my head that the dragons granted firebending.

Thanks for clearing that up.



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Reply #179 on: October 24, 2013, 07:37:07 AM
Plus it ties so much together. How Aang learned "Energybending" from that one Lion Turtle. Why he's even called the "Avatar" in the first place (because he's Raava's avatar). Why he's the bridge between both worlds. It also makes a wonderful connection between Wan & Korra, since Wan was also impulsive and did things without thinking them through, which is what leads to chaos. So now there's so much potential for her to grow. Hopefully she does.

It also opens up other possibilities towards this season's finale. Does she defeat Vaatu? If she does, is the Avatar even needed? What if Vaatu claims someone of his own to be his Avatar? Has he already? It just really opened up this series.



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Reply #180 on: October 24, 2013, 07:53:39 AM
it's currently believed that the lion turtle who taught aang to energybend is the same one who gave wan firebending, thanks to the similar head markings (all lion turtles have unique head markings).

also you mentioned the connection, but it's more of a parallel. korra was just trying to help, thinking she was doing the right thing. instead, things are literally going to hell because of her actions.

same with wan.

anyways, unalaq is definitely in contact with vaatu. we even saw unalaq leave the spirit world through a spirit portal (desna points it out, asking if he was just in the spirit world, and unalaq dismisses the question completely). to what extent he's in contact we don't know, but i don't see a dark avatar truly happening. unalaq would need to learn the other 3 elements to be a true dark avatar, and even then if vaatu entered his body and they merged, vaatu would likely only use unalaq's body as a puppet, whereas the avatar/raava link is more even.

and korra can never kill vaatu; to defeat vaatu completely would also result in raava's destruction. considering how closely linked the avatar and raava are, that would also likely mean korra's death. light cannot exist without darkness, as the two share a symbiotic fluctuating relationship. the stronger one gets, the weaker the other is, but one cannot exist without the other. raava explained that to wan.

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Reply #181 on: October 24, 2013, 08:06:23 AM
Things have changed though. Vaatu fed on the chaos between the humans & the spirits, so if freed he could easily feed on the chaos of the Water Tribe civil war, plus everyday human life. It was probably just a boast, but in there battle he said that he might be able to rid himself of Raava forever.

Plus what I still find interesting is Jinora's role in all of this. There's more to Tenzin's story than just him reuniting with his siblings.



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Reply #182 on: October 24, 2013, 08:50:27 AM
Remember the statue she saw? It showed Raava behind Wan, arms encompassing him. So there's that.

Also it probably glowed because the spirit portal was opened. Also I don't think that Vaatu realizes that without Raava he cannot exist. He can get as powerful as he wants, but if he were to completely wipe her out he'd wipe himself out. Things have changed in the physical realm, but the fundamental laws of the universe cannot change. Light cannot exist without darkness, and therefore Raava cannot exist without Vaatu (and vice versa). It is Raava's light that gives definition to Vaatu's darkness, and her light that he corrupts into darkness. If she's gone, what will he have to corrupt?

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Reply #183 on: October 24, 2013, 09:47:47 PM
Here's the thing though, if you go by the universal "big bang" theory and such, darkness can and had existed without the light before. Mind you, that's probably not how Vaatu is portrayed, but it's still possible. They are most likely going the whole corruption aspect of light & darkness, order & chaos.



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Reply #184 on: October 29, 2013, 09:14:59 PM
There is a thing going the interweb that people are thinking that Vaatu want to make a Dark Avatar. Other then that, Part 1 and 2 are the best episodes in the whole LoK series hands down in my opinion thus far.   

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Reply #185 on: November 09, 2013, 07:00:47 AM
OH MY GOD. THIS JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER & BETTER!!!



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Reply #186 on: November 09, 2013, 08:08:51 AM
[spoiler]I didn't expect Iroh to show up, but I'm so happy that he did. And his appearance makes perfect sense, plus it's comforting to know that Iroh will live on forever in the Spirit World. His body may be dead, but his soul (and love for tea) shall be eternal...[/spoiler]

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Reply #187 on: November 09, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
[spoiler]It's such a perfect tribute to Mako[/spoiler]



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Reply #188 on: November 09, 2013, 09:39:38 PM
[spoiler]It's such a perfect tribute to Mako[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think this calls for the incredibly heartbreaking tribute from Avatar (couldn't find the actual scene).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5E9aA-PoM8[/youtube]

Tears me up every time.[/spoiler]



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Reply #189 on: November 09, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
[spoiler]I think this calls for the incredibly heartbreaking tribute from Avatar (couldn't find the actual scene).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5E9aA-PoM8[/youtube]

Tears me up every time.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]AWW MAN....THE FEEEEEELS[/spoiler]



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Reply #190 on: November 12, 2013, 09:03:23 AM
So apparently they just finished mixing the final episode of Book 2.

And well...
[spoiler=a couple of shots from said episode][/spoiler]
HNNGGHH

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Reply #191 on: November 12, 2013, 02:16:30 PM
Wait, that's not SPARKY SPARKY BOOM MAN, is it? :o



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Reply #192 on: November 12, 2013, 06:39:57 PM
Vaatu knows Hyper Beam too, ya know.

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Reply #193 on: November 12, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
Oh right, duh. I'd love if he came back, though.

His "death" wasn't convincing.



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Reply #194 on: November 12, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
It was really unclear.

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Reply #195 on: November 12, 2013, 08:35:31 PM
Pretty sure he'd be dead already though.



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Reply #196 on: November 12, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
Yeah probably. And no chance of him surviving in a way similar to Iroh.

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Reply #197 on: November 12, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Plus it would take away from the pure awesomeness, that is this!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySywzWDPjRw#t=128[/youtube]



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Reply #198 on: November 15, 2013, 07:46:13 PM

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Reply #199 on: November 15, 2013, 08:17:42 PM
Wow. Soooo that's pretty much ALL of Korra tonight.

[tornado fang] YEAH!!