The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread

[Protoman Blues]

Preorder confirmed! 

I think I'll name one of my Pidgey's "Preorder" 

[Jericho]

Just got back to read thing this thread and I--

HOLY [tornado fang]. Typhlosion following behind me confirmed.

[Dr. Wily II]

probably not much, Linoone can be anywhere on the list to pick up stuff, and odds are it will still pick up better items than whatever pokemon is following you. The higher the level, the better items Linoone got.

Yes, but the thing is, if Linoone is the lead Pokemon, will the items it picks up be due to his Pickup ability, or items ala Amity Square?

[Gotham Ranger]

Screw Typhlosion. I'll stick with my Quilava.

Edit: GOD DAMN IT, RPM. Stop being god damn ninjas.

[Blackhook]

Screw Typhlosion. I'll stick with my Quilava.

Edit: GOD DAMN IT, RPM. Stop being god damn ninjas.

I don´t even know how to pronouce Typhlosion  .....so I gave mine a nickname 

[Klavier Gavin]

The official Japanese Pokemon website has revealed better-quality images of HeartGold and SoulSilver's Johto map and box art in addition to a new image of Ecruteak City. No new information was revealed on the website, though we can now see that there is a new, fairly large chunk of land to the west of Cianwood City (Johto's Battle Frontier?), a new building west of Goldenrod City next to the Radio Tower, and a small new area west of National Park.

PokéWalker info:

For one, there are currently four known PokeWalker courses, each of which will have different Pokemon that you can encounter and then transfer to HeartGold and SoulSilver. They are called "Refreshing Field," "Noisy Forest," "Rugged Path," and "Edge of the Night Sky," the latter being the one that the McDonalds Jirachi unlocks once traded over to the two games (side-note: The Jirachi will also be downloadable via Wi-Fi to people with the Japanese games). The default courses are the first two, and to unlock the Rugged Path field you need to take an unconfirmed 1,000 steps. Presumably, the more steps you take with the PokeWalker, the more fields you will unlock, and the more wild Pokemon you can encounter. To encounter a wild Pokemon, you use the PokeWalker's built-in PokeRadar, which will detect wild Pokemon and then allow your Pokemon to battle it. You can also use the PokeWalker's Item Finder to find hidden items, just like in the main games. To use both items requires a certain amount of watts, or steps taken.

Also:

both Lugia and Ho-Oh are confirmed to be capturable in both games, just like in the original Gold and Silver.

[Dr. Wily II]

Was looking at this...
That is one beautiful image of Ecruteak City.

[Klavier Gavin]

Was looking at this...
That is one beautiful image of Ecruteak City.

Because I told you. >_>
And I agree.

[Dr. Wily II]

Yeah, yeah. >_>

More for speculation on the 3 new areas!
Ready? GO!

[Pringer X]

Yes, but the thing is, if Linoone is the lead Pokemon, will the items it picks up be due to his Pickup ability, or items ala Amity Square?

A combination of both maybe. Doesn't Linoone actually hold onto the item with Pickup and Pokemon in Amity Square just hand them over to you?

[Dr. Wily II]

Nope, you must "talk" to the Pokemon in order to get the item it holds in Amity Square.
So, it holds on to it until you "talk" to it, just like Pickup.

[Akira]

Was looking at this...
That is one beautiful image of Ecruteak City.

Ecruteak?... is Kyoto! LOL

[Pringer X]

Nope, you must "talk" to the Pokemon in order to get the item it holds in Amity Square.
So, it holds on to it until you "talk" to it, just like Pickup.

I think Pickup just lets the Pokemon hold on to it, but I don't know if the Pokemon actually holds onto the item like in Amity square though. I never bothered going there, so I don't know if they have an actual physical hold on the item like with Pickup.

[Hypershell]

I know I'm late, but:

- All 493 Pokemon can follow you around, you can see Steelix and Wobbuffet following the trainers in the scans

F)*(#&$^% YEAH!  Game is sold (as if the promise of a Kanto Gym Leader remix wasn't enough).  I get to show off my DRAGONITE POWER at all times.

[Dr. Wily II]

I think Pickup just lets the Pokemon hold on to it, but I don't know if the Pokemon actually holds onto the item like in Amity square though. I never bothered going there, so I don't know if they have an actual physical hold on the item like with Pickup.

Well, I telling you now.
It holds on to the item in Amity Square, I always go there to pick up the berries and accessories.

[Klavier Gavin]

Heart Gold and Soul Silver footage

[Gaia]

Finally, something other than screenshots. but boy are they crazy in that video.

[STM]

It looks like the new area in the video is called, "Shinto Iseki"... I don't know what Shinto translates to (if anything... God, maybe? Some with better moonrune knowledge help me here. ) but the latter is obviously Ruins.

[Jericho]

My frothing demand for his game intensifies.

Also, that Ecruteak City picture is gorgeous.

[HokutoNoBen]

It looks like the new area in the video is called, "Shinto Iseki"... I don't know what Shinto translates to (if anything... God, maybe? Some with better moonrune knowledge help me here. ) but the latter is obviously Ruins.

Shinto, in itself, means "Way of the Gods".

If Palkia and his pimps are indeed involved, then, yeah, it's a fitting name for that place.

But any way...what music I heard was enough to make me squeal in delight. Oh, yeah.... 

[Pringer X]

It looks like the new area in the video is called, "Shinto Iseki"... I don't know what Shinto translates to (if anything... God, maybe? Some with better moonrune knowledge help me here. ) but the latter is obviously Ruins.

Wikipedia to the rescue:

Shinto (神道, Shintō?) is the name ascribed to the non-Buddhist religious practices of Japan. The word Shinto ("Way of the Gods") was adopted from the written Chinese (神道),[1] combining two kanji: "shin" (神?), meaning gods or spirits (originally from the Chinese word shen); and "tō" (道?), or "do" meaning a philosophical path or study (originally from the Chinese word tao). The terms Kami no michi and kannagara can also be used and the meanings are very similar.

[Dr. Wily II]

Hmm... Notched-Ear Pichu knows Volt Tackle, and Pain Split...
And seeing Arceus walking behind...

[Pringer X]

You know what I'm expecting? Move tutors that are going to end up changing the meta game AGAIN and send the whole thing into chaos. Think about it, Platinum sent Scizor straight to the OU and several others into the UU or lower, and Dragonite was no longer the only one that could do Dragon Dance AND Outrage, so it pretty much gave it the middle finger even moreso. They'll probably do something else as well, probably give several Pokemon that couldn't learn Dragon Dance or Mach Punch before those moves, and god knows what else.

[Tickle Buffalo]

I'm expecting the metagame to stay exactly the same, just like it always does when new games come out.


srsly dude we can work this stuff out on our own.

[Hypershell]

Both are correct.  The metagame will change since the moves change, but it'll always remain the same: A bunch of incessant whining about which way is the "proper" way to play. 

and Dragonite was no longer the only one that could do Dragon Dance AND Outrage, so it pretty much gave it the middle finger even moreso.

Platinum may have handed out Outrage to his competitors, but it also gave Dragonite Superpower.  When the only thing you can't STAB Outrage into oblivion is Steel, that's not something to be overlooked.

Still hoping we'll see the return of Extremespeed Dragonite, though, but seeings how they already said FU to Crystal with the whole female player shpiel, I'm not all that hopeful.  We'll see.  Either way, I'm buying this game.  G/S music remixes and any Pokemon following you is just too damn awesome to pass up.