New Console to possibly be revealed at E3 (http://ca.kotaku.com/5792165/new-nintendo-console-debuting-at-e3-launching-in-2012-more-powerful-than-xbox-360-and-ps3)
More powerful than a PS3, 360, and a locomotive. What new wonders will Nintendo show us? Stay tuned.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL ABOARD
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6071/83568192164hypetrainjpg.jpg)
Leave me off that damn train.
If I get hyped like I was for the Wii I'm just going to be dissapointed, like I was with the Wii for the first year or so that I had it.
Still, This should be intresting.
I've decided that I'm gonna fuel the hype train with glorious, pointless, random delicious fun silly liquid Schwartz levels of hypedom!
Ahem...
IF THIS SYSTEM IS MORE POWERFUL THAN A PS3 OR 360, NINTENDO CAN FINALLY FINALLY MAKE THAT POKEMON MMO GAME WE ALL WANT, AND THUS RULE THE WORLD! 8)
Who doesn't love trains? 8)
(for that matter, who doesn't love Twilight Princess and Excite Truck as launch titles?)
HD for quite some time has been a matter of when rather than if with Nintendo. Miyamoto himself said around NSMBWii's release that he wants to see Mario in HD. It's just a matter of when Nintendo is convinced that it's cheap and mainstream enough to not be punishing those who aren't yet on board.
EDITS: Incidentally, I'd be hard-pressed to say they were wrong. Microsoft and Sony were just a bit premature, which left them with some console production cost woes. Sony, especially (Microsoft swims in money thanks to Windows). Nintendo being a game-exclusive company, that's not a misstep that they could afford to make. The flipside, of course, is that in the long-run Nintendo is under the most pressure to release new hardware.
And hopefully Nintendo will be paying close attention to the 3DS network structure - what works and what still needs tweaking - when they're ironing out their new system. It's already trouncing Wii in terms of response time when managing friends, and I know they're getting ready to kick their previous shop system in the behind. But there's still the typical Nintendo lack of communication. What good does it do to see what game a friend is playing, if you still can't tell whether they're actually looking for an online match without starting up the game on your end? Some kind of messenger is needed there.
Well, consider me sold already, I just pray to god the damn thing isn't literally twice as expensive here like it's brother the 3DS =/
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 14, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
I've decided that I'm gonna fuel the hype train with glorious, pointless, random delicious fun silly liquid Schwartz levels of hypedom!
Ahem...
IF THIS SYSTEM IS MORE POWERFUL THAN A PS3 OR 360, NINTENDO CAN FINALLY FINALLY MAKE THAT POKEMON MMO GAME WE ALL WANT, AND THUS RULE THE WORLD! 8)
It'll bring the apocalypse if it ever happens. *checks rumored release date for the console*
...Oh
Quote from: Klavier Gavin on April 14, 2011, 10:20:05 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL ABOARD
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6071/83568192164hypetrainjpg.jpg)
CAN I DRIVE?
Quote from: Hypershell on April 14, 2011, 10:35:57 PM
(for that matter, who doesn't love Twilight Princess and Excite Truck as launch titles?)
People without souls, that's who.
I'm not gonna board the hype train.
But I'll ride my Excitement Bike.
[spoiler]
Get it?
I made a Nintendo joke.[/spoiler]
Holy [tornado fang], news that I wasn't on top of?
Holy [tornado fang], new Nintendo console?
Holy [tornado fang], more powerful than PS360 confirmed? (not that this was ever an issue but...)
Holy [tornado fang], where are my sedatives? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Eh. I'll wait until I see the games.
As long they announce this AFTER announcing Xenoblade and Last Story (and whatever wii games for this year for the last Hurrah for the Wii, and DS...I hope Soma Bringer is announced as well).
Then i'm game.
And thus the 8th console generation begins.
Ugh, [tornado fang]ing really? I just got a god damn Wii. Where's the god damn longevity in consoles?
Just wait for a price drop or create a backlog of games you'll want till you feel ready to get the console.
That's what I always do. I got my PS3, PSP, DS and Wii pretty late.
also
(http://a.imagehost.org/0633/Zelda_Config_Screen_01.jpg)
I BELIEVE
Quote from: Gotham Ranger on April 15, 2011, 05:07:18 AM
Ugh, [tornado fang]ing really? I just got a god damn Wii. Where's the god damn longevity in consoles?
Wii came out on 2006, GC came out on 2001, N64 on 1996, SNES on 1991, and the NES 1985.
That's 6 years between NES->SNES, and 5 years for everything else. This would be the longest between Nintendo consoles since the NES->SNES so you really can't complain or say that you didn't see this coming.
More Rumors courtesy of GoNintendo (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=155868)
- launch titles from third-party developers are in the works right now
- all-new controller
- controller features a built-in HD screen
- Blu-ray as the main optical drive
LoL, an HD Screen built into the controller. Madness I say! Madness! XD
*sits in a corner moping*
*she double-checks to make sure it says Nintendo, all printed on the system*
Yea, I'm definitely getting it, no matter what features it has~ *Ninty fangirl* >u<
Last time "rumors" were out we got the 3DS.
So I see little reason not to believe 'em this time.
Something tells me that this might be more than just a Wii 2. I wonder what they'll call it.
Perhaps the Nintenterprise?
Nintendo tan! Stop going so fast! I haven't even gotten the 3Ds yet. >.<
No worries, Wanda. This is slated for 2012 I believe, so there's still time to pick up your 3DS.
Man I hope the Nintenterprise connects with the 3DS well.
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 15, 2011, 08:32:57 AM
- Blu-ray as the main optical drive
This confuses me to no end
Well there's no reason why Sony wouldn't help make themselves money, in theory.
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 15, 2011, 10:38:37 AM
Something tells me that this might be more than just a Wii 2. I wonder what they'll call it.
Perhaps the Nintenterprise?
Boldly going where no Nintendo console has gone before? I'm down with that.
Actually, Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray.
It's owned by the Blu-Ray Disc Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association)
I really want this system to have a new Monster Hunter.
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 15, 2011, 10:57:45 AM
Well there's no reason why Sony wouldn't help make themselves money, in theory.
Like Cosake said, Bluray isn't Sony's. But Sony could probably still use the money, what with all their 'bad press' recently 8U
It's just that I understand that adopting newer technologies is the way to go, but it disagrees with what I thought was Nintendo' s image of being the low-end cost family goto.
Then again, improvements over things like Wii1's puny onboard flash are welcome regardless of cost.
Thing is...there are parts now that are cheap and can trump the PS3 and 360 hardware wise.
PC already has hardware that has been trumping the PS3 and 360 for years now. Certainly w/ the success of the Wii, i'm sure Nintendo can actually flex their muscles once again.
Of course what can be done w/ hardware is a different story altogether, as proven by the GC/DC/PS2/Xbox era <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
I do hope the new controller keeps the two-parter design, the nunchuk/mote was really comfortable even for motion insensitive games.
Wait...A HD display. On a controller? Why...
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3691/whywouldyoudothat299212.jpg)
Oh well. Regardless of what random silly things they do from time to time, I still believe in Nintendo~ Count me as excited 8D
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 15, 2011, 08:32:57 AM
More Rumors courtesy of GoNintendo (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=155868)
- launch titles from third-party developers are in the works right now
- all-new controller
- controller features a built-in HD screen
- Blu-ray as the main optical drive
LoL, an HD Screen built into the controller. Madness I say! Madness! XD
As I'vew said a thousand times before on many different venues, I do believe that people should expect a Gamecube philosophy designed console (affordable as [tornado fang], makes profit from the jump and is more than capable of competing with 720/PS4) simply because not only has computer tech become cheap as hell, but Nintendo is literally jumping up two generations instead of one coming off the feature set of Wii and into tech of today. Just to give people some idea of the unique and interesting situation Nintendo's currently in with their options, there were 100 dollar (USD) graphics cards capable of blowing out both PS3 & 360 in
2007-8. With the added three years since then,
1.5 Billion dollars of R&D, and 1wata/Sakurai/Miyamoto commenting on different aspects of a more powerful console that they want to mess with (Iwata: heavy insistance on getting the big names that don't usually happen on Nintendo systems & online, Sakurai stating that he wants to make HD games, Miyamoto saying that they move on only when something particularly interesting he wants to do or see can't be done on current tech) I see no reason why anyone couldn't get a little hyped over this.
Also, on a more humorous side, with the inclusion of an HD caliber screen on the controller, Nintendo has pretty much said "[tornado fang] it, here's some more HD to make up for lost time." XD
Well, it can't be actual HD though, can it? But yeah, pretty much XD
Quote from: Krystal on April 15, 2011, 11:35:20 AM
Wait...A HD display. On a controller? Why...
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3691/whywouldyoudothat299212.jpg)
Maybe they realized they loved the DC controller and thought they should improve on it? XD
I'm just curious as to how they plan to implement this Controller Screen for games and such. What ya'll up to Nintendo?
Also, a question to those who have owned a DC. Is the controller comfortable? How did that screen thing function?
Wasn't hyped before but I am now very curious on what the big red N has up its money grubbing sleeves.
Except for the cord being on the wrong end of the DC controller, I always love the thing. The screen on that was part of the MemCard.
As for the Blu-Ray/HD thing, I personally feel Nintendo did the right thing in waiting till HDTV's became much much more mainstream than they were when the Wii first came out. They've had time to build a monopoly and now they can move on. The real question is whether or not the new crowd they've gained will go with them. The gamers, tech geeks, and nintendophiles will always buy new systems. Will the new market continue on or stick with their Wii's?
Either way, Nintendophile PB cannot wait for the Nintenterprise!
To me, REALLY comfortable.
While the d-pad itself is small, a friend of mine taught me one thing, "You're a gamer right? you should be able to adapt to almost every controller". So I toughed up and got used to it, for the sake of loving fighters. And well, it's quite comfortable~ even the way the wire is set up (while on the wrong end, it has this thing that keeps it held, and well...you sorta forget where the wire is), it's quite neat.
More info/rumors from GoNintendo (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=155889)
- codename is "project cafe"
- similar to the architecture of the 360, but a little more powerful
- easy to develop for
- controller has a standard single, 6-inch touch screen (not HD)
- similar to the Dreamcast VMU with ample storage capacity
- still a huge "surprise" about the platform to be revealed at E3
- custom IBM PowerPC CPU with three cores, a GPU from the ATI R700 family with a shader unit at version 4.1, and at least 512Mb of RAM
- GameCube backwards compatibility as well
- controller has a front-facing camera, D-Pad, two bumpers, two triggers and "possibly more"
- can allegedly be used as a Wii sensor bar
I like "huge surprises!" 8D
It will be awesome if the huge surprise is the auto 1080p render for GC and Wii.
but at the same time, I don't think that's enough to warrant a 'huge surprise'.
Just to drop a little knowledge on what to expect should that GPU spec alone pan out:
Quote from: brain_stewR700 is the codename for only one GPU; the 4870x2.
There's no way that would end up in the system but if Nintendo are using a GPU that is more than 10x as powerful as Xenos in their dev kits, then this thing is going to be no slouch.
Xenos is the 360's internal GPU name. Also: (http://twitter.com/jimreilly/statuses/58948527677648896)
QuoteThere will be first and third party "Wii 2" games at E3. No clue if they'll be playable.
Can it be E3 yet? D:
Quote from: Solar on April 15, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
Can it be E3 yet? D:
I say this (and "Can it be Christmas yet") every day of the year. XD
Posted on: April 15, 2011, 01:44:41 PM
Holy [tornado fang]
QuoteDual analog sticks on the controller. Can stream game content from the console. Not sure if it'll be full games, mini-games, or apps.
http://twitter.com/jimreilly/statuses/58952595657596929
Holy [parasitic bomb]...does it make toast yet?
Quote from: Jericho on April 15, 2011, 08:44:41 PM
I say this (and "Can it be Christmas yet") every day of the year. XD
What's the difference?
Jerry is all tingly and excited
Oh man, imagine a Star Fox game with the controller screen showing radar and making Gundam like sounds as missiles & such are incoming.
Quote from: Acid on April 15, 2011, 09:35:53 PM
Jerry is all tingly and excited
You cannot comprehend how ready my body is. XD
Readier than the Reggie pic?
I don't care until it's officialy released and has a decent game library.
Touch screen on a console!? What madness is this!?!
Oh well, still like to see the thing in action and it's games before getting hyped. Though I may be impatient for the day E3 comes up...
So, no news on the sony or microsoft side?
Well Sony will most likely be show casing the PSP2 (NGP). As for Microsoft, I have no idea.
This [parasitic bomb] better be HDMI-compatible. Otherwise, FORGET IT.
I'd settle for component video. Fortunately, my TV supports both.
Quote from: Dexter Dexter on April 15, 2011, 11:48:07 PM
This [parasitic bomb] better be HDMI-compatible. Otherwise, FORGET IT.
i'm sure it will be.
Man, I just came back from work and now the Neogaf thread on Wii2 is just hard to catch up, oh my...
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 15, 2011, 09:36:01 PM
Oh man, imagine a Star Fox game with the controller screen showing radar and making Gundam like sounds as missiles & such are incoming.
I just wanted to say that I hate you for making me want this now XD
Quote from: Fox McCloud on April 16, 2011, 12:40:06 PM
I just wanted to say that I hate you for making me want this now XD
Or imagine Slippy showing up on the controller screen to ask for help! XD
Or perhaps an F-Zero game in which the controller screen has the speedometer and a rear view mirror! 8D
Might as well
Quotehttp://gameolosophy.com/consoles/wii/rumour-pikmin-coming-to-project-cafe-nintendo-talking-with-rockstar/
There is a lot of rumors being thrown around about the Wii, and some people I know who work close with Nintendo have been dropping me some rumors. Even though I trust these people since they've been right on many past rumors (a 3D DS, Donkey Kong Country Returns, etc), please understand everything below is a rumor and should be taken with a grain of salt.
**Rumors from highly reliable sources below**
Some key inside sources have told me that Nintendo has moved Pikmin 3 from the original Wii to their new console, which is currently being codenamed, "Project Cafe". I have been told that this new Pikmin game will indeed be at E3 in video form. When Pikmin 3 was in development, a decision was made that the boosted graphics from the next Nintendo console would add an extra benefit to create more realistic grass, dirt, mud, rocks, and water in the game. The extra graphics horsepower would allow little extra environment details that couldn't be done on the original Wii. People who have seen the game have told me that it looks drop dead gorgeous.
Another thing I've been told is that Nintendo is trying to build a better relationship with Rockstar Games to get them to throw major support on the next Nintendo console. They are trying to persuade Rockstar into believing that franchises like Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead Redemption can work on this next Nintendo console. From what I'm hearing, Nintendo realizes that Rockstar pulls a lot of weight with older gamers, and they would like to see Rockstar play a bigger key role to attract a key demographic. This isn't unbelievable since Rockstar put Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars on the DS, and "Manhunt 2″ on the Wii.
This notion of replacing buttons with a customizable touch screen setup does not appeal to me. I will not play a game with just bumpers/triggers. I want physical face buttons.
Yes, it's a deal breaker.
Do you own a Wii?
If yes, then shut up.
If not, then carry on.
it's wishful think but I wish Nintendo makes this region free for once. We had to neuter SNES and N64, use the conversion cart inside the Hogan's alley (5 screws) game for the NES, and Modchip the GC and Wii already. Make it easy on us this time like Sony did.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 17, 2011, 05:44:46 PM
This notion of replacing buttons with a customizable touch screen setup does not appeal to me. I will not play a game with just bumpers/triggers. I want physical face buttons.
Yes, it's a deal breaker.
Who said they're replacing buttons. As far as I know, they're just adding a 6" touchscreen, not getting rid of buttons.
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 17, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
Who said they're replacing buttons. As far as I know, they're just adding a 6" touchscreen, not getting rid of buttons.
Furthermore, you really think the devs that anonymously gave their remarks on how "this system isn't like Wii [it's not a gimmick]"
whatever the [tornado fang] that's supposed to imply would embrace it so willingly with something that unorthodox?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27233001&postcount=11360
This, LEGO Star Wars III, the 3DS, and Skullgirls is definately gonna hurt my wallet badly when I get the cash.. So far, I'm intrested to see the games for this system.. Heh.
Quote from: VixyNyan on April 19, 2011, 01:19:37 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27233001&postcount=11360
Main feature?!! I must know what it is now!
The person who originally posted that quote was apparently fooled.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27233471&postcount=11449
Quote from: Kieran on April 17, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
Do you own a Wii?
If yes, then shut up.
If not, then carry on.
If you dont know the difference between adding and removing functionality, then shut up.
Oh darn, it looks like you don't get an option to carry on.
Quote from: Kieran on April 17, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
Do you own a Wii?
If yes, then shut up.
If not, then carry on.
The Wii uses motion to supplement, rather than replace, the use of physical buttons. I get what Objection is saying, and I share similar ergonomic preferences, but I don't think he has anything to worry about either. I can't imagine Nintendo would throw an all-touch controller at us. As PB said, all reports, not to mention simple logic, point to an addition rather than a replacement.
Quote from: Hypershell on April 19, 2011, 03:27:35 AM
As PB said, all reports, not to mention simple logic, point to an addition rather than a replacement.
I sure as hell hope so. As an addition it isn't a bad idea, except that additional controllers will probably be like 100$ now.
The touch screen controller sounds WAY too suspicious...
But if it's true, it will be like playing with an iPhone.
Quote from: VixyNyan on April 19, 2011, 01:19:37 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27233001&postcount=11360
Debunked, but here's something of a consolation prize:
Quotepeople PEOPLE PEOPLE!!
01net (the NGP people) has reported a June 2012 launch with Rockstar on board and GTV5 coming soon, along with the console being SIGNIFICANTLY MORE POWERFUL THAN THE XBOX 360.
So it could be true anyways.
Jim Reily @ Twitter (http://twitter.com/jimreilly/status/60097083612467200):
QuoteThe next big scoop on the Nintendo console is a picture of the controller. I wonder if someone will get one.
;)
I think it's funny how so many people are seeing the matter of horsepower as a radical departure from Nintendo's established style, when their benchmark for performance comparisons is nearing 6 years old.
Anyways, on the controller, I see the bizarro-Nintendo-hook here as being that the controller has a screen in the first place. That it's touch-sensitive is just a Nintendo expectation these days.
NO WAY is the touch screen alone replacing all other inputs. The thing wouldn't have sticks, which were already confirmed, if that was the case. Besides, Nintendo got a lesson in that waaay back when the DS first launched, with Super Mario 64 and the DSphat's thumb strap that everyone forgot about.
I'll say now the same thing I said when the Wii remote was first shown years ago: If it's backwards compatible, it must accept old or comparable controllers. End of story.
I'll believe it when i see it. These rumors are way to fishy considering Nintendo's track record. They've always been known to focus more on gameplay than graphics. I'm standing at a 80% chance that it will have 360 graphics at least and slightly less powerful than [late era] PS3. I don't see the point in trying to surpass it. (I'll admit that i would still be surprised nonetheless if it had 360 graphics)
As for the HD-screen controller, the concept sounds pretty sweet to me. But that would probably increase the price to a risky amount, considering your getting a HD console as well. I'm not very good at estimation of sales/figures but i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a smart route to take. Again, all speculation but i'm really pumped and will get it day one whether it has great horsepower or not. >_>
At the moment I'm just imagining a cross between a 3DS and the Wii and with a 360/PS3. Don't mind me.
Quote from: Krystal on April 19, 2011, 10:41:37 AM
At the moment I'm just imagining a cross between a 3DS and the Wii and with a 360/PS3. Don't mind me.
That's pretty much what I'm thinking as well.
That and a new StarTropics as well as you dressed as Captain Syrup! XD
So has anything been confirmed yet?
Other than "Nintendo's making a new system" everything seems to be pure speculation.
Quote from: Superdee on April 19, 2011, 05:03:41 AM
I'll believe it when i see it. These rumors are way to fishy considering Nintendo's track record. They've always been known to focus more on gameplay than graphics. I'm standing at a 80% chance that it will have 360 graphics at least and slightly less powerful than [late era] PS3. I don't see the point in trying to surpass it. (I'll admit that i would still be surprised nonetheless if it had 360 graphics)
As for the HD-screen controller, the concept sounds pretty sweet to me. But that would probably increase the price to a risky amount, considering your getting a HD console as well. I'm not very good at estimation of sales/figures but i'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a smart route to take. Again, all speculation but i'm really pumped and will get it day one whether it has great horsepower or not. >_>
Firstly: It's not so far-fetched to think that Nintendo can make a console that'll outperform the 360 in terms of raw power. Afterall, the 360 is six years old now, and while its graphics are impressive, they're hardly earth-shattering. It's not as though the thing could run Crysis on full settings.
Secondly, the "HD" thing regarding the controller screen is really a misnomer. There are no HD screens that small. Granted, it would definitely be high-definition in the sense that the PSP is high-definition compared to the Gameboy. But actual HD? No.
Wasn't the Gamecube pretty strong? Stronger than XBox and PS2?
The Gamecube was definitely more powerful than the PS2. I think the original XBox still outperformed it, though.
Really, the GC's main downfall was that the storage medium they used was horrible.
Quote from: Superdee on April 19, 2011, 05:03:41 AM
I'll believe it when i see it. These rumors are way to fishy considering Nintendo's track record. They've always been known to focus more on gameplay than graphics.
The only home console from Nintendo that didn't feature the best graphical horsepower at the time of it's release is the Wii.
The SNES came out and tounced the Gen (in all aspects, not just graphical, lol).
The N64 came and beat out the PSX.
The GameCube toppled the PS2.
Then they bowed out of the race for the Wii.
Quote from: Kieran on April 19, 2011, 02:48:52 PM
The Gamecube was definitely more powerful than the PS2.x
You can see that in games like Mega Man X: Command Mission, where the game is smoother in frame rate.
Gamecube runs at 60 visual fps, while the PS2 version runs at 30 visual fps. o.o;
^ That's something I noticed with
Megaman X Command Mission
Sonic Heroes
Shadow The Hedgehog
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 : Battle Nexus
Briefly anything that's on GC is better...
I miss my GC copy of Command Mission... B(
Quote from: Vexan on April 19, 2011, 04:45:41 PM
I miss my GC copy of Command Mission... B(
::hugs his copy of CM for GC::
My, precious.....
Gamecube also had considerably faster load times. Come to think of it, load times have never really been much of an issue with Nintendo, save for the Wii (It's very noticeable in Brawl, anyway).
Cartridges tend to do that, yeah. It's much like why SSDs are faster than regular HDDs.
Quote from: AquaTeamV3 on April 19, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
Gamecube also had considerably faster load times. Come to think of it, load times have never really been much of an issue with Nintendo, save for the Wii (It's very noticeable in Brawl, anyway).
There were loading times in Brawl? I really didn't feel it.
Posted on: April 19, 2011, 03:18:06 PM
Also, time to pour some more Liquid Schwartz into the Hype Engine... (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156206)
- Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Konami, Activision, Rockstar/Take Two, Electronic Arts, Namco and Ubisoft all have development kits
- each company has at least one game in the works
- Nintendo really reaching out to third parties
- Nintendo may hold back 1st party games at launch to help promote third party offerings
- StarFox for the Wii successor is in early development stages
- storage solution at work that should do away with the issues third parties had on Wii
- revamped downloadable service
- much-loved FPS getting a 'port' to 3DS
- big focus on 3DS at E3 showing
- Nintendo considering launching Skyward Sword around the same time Wii's successor hits
- Hideo Kojima approached concerning Wii successor
- Resident Evil game being worked on for Wii successor
- Retro working on a Wii successor game, not related to Metroid
I'll take a guess and claim that, if SE is working on a title, it will be Dragon Quest X.
DA-YUM. There really goes the money in the neighborhood. Will Friend Codes be a thing of the past? I hope so. I really do think that this thing is backwards compatable, I like stuff with backwards compatability *hugs my PS3 and Wii*.
My opinions on these revelations.
Quote
- Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Konami, Activision, Rockstar/Take Two, Electronic Arts, Namco and Ubisoft all have development kits
Alright, other than EA and Activision (Whom I don't give two shits about), sounds nice, I like that Rockstar is on board with Nintendo.
Quote
- each company has at least one game in the works
Sweet, I'll be intrested in seeing what they have (Except for EA and Activision, because its just going to be COD or a Sports game [/generalization])
Quote
- Nintendo really reaching out to third parties
They don't do enough of this, but maybe they should try reaching out to
good Third-Parties, like the ones that have Dev Kits.
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- Nintendo may hold back 1st party games at launch to help promote third party offerings
I'd be wary of that, the Wii tried that and we got [parasitic bomb] like "Chicken Shoot". What they should try and do is step up QA to keep freeware/cheap/lazily made garbage from reaching the console.
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- StarFox for the Wii successor is in early development stages
[tornado fang]. Yes.
Quote
- storage solution at work that should do away with the issues third parties had on Wii
What issues? Their saves being 60 blocks or so? why do those saves take so much damn space anyway? I've always wondered about that.
Quote
- revamped downloadable service
Less Disconnects, slow downloads (for me at least), and more QA? Sure!
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- much-loved FPS getting a 'port' to 3DS
I'm hoping to dear god they mean Metroid Prime or something, if it ends up being COD then I'll question why this was news.
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- big focus on 3DS at E3 showing
Sounds nice, maybe we'll see more of that awesome looking Paper Mario game.
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- Nintendo considering launching Skyward Sword around the same time Wii's successor hits
Why? Do it too late and it'll get overshadowed, like Twilight Princess GCN.
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- Hideo Kojima approached concerning Wii successor
Now this could be intresting, maybe we'll see another MGS game.
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- Resident Evil game being worked on for Wii successor
Probably a side story, if it was RE6 that would be fine too.
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- Retro working on a Wii successor game, not related to Metroid
DKC Returns 2, I can only guess.
Quote from: Kieran on April 19, 2011, 02:48:52 PM
The Gamecube was definitely more powerful than the PS2. I think the original XBox still outperformed it, though.
Really, the GC's main downfall was that the storage medium they used was horrible.
In all fairness Microsoft sits on a pile of money generated by Windows, which gives them quite an edge. But yeah, correct on all points.
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 19, 2011, 10:26:59 PM
There were loading times in Brawl? I really didn't feel it.
Brawl has a long load when first starting the game, otherwise it seems pretty negligible to me. I've already seen 3DS games with more intrusive loading than that. Not to mention, God help you if you find yourself in need of the Wii System's SD Card menu.
Quote- Nintendo considering launching Skyward Sword around the same time Wii's successor hits
I sure hope not. The Wii's need of solid software is only going to grow more intense as people start anticipating new hardware, and if Nintendo's showcasing a power boost with the thing (as in, no easy generation-leaping ports like with Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario), then that's all the more reason Skyward Sword should come sooner rather than later. I'm seeing too many late-lifecycle DS games already that are only suffering for it, be it in sales or in whether or not they get localized at all.
Quote from: RMZX Anarchy on April 19, 2011, 10:45:41 PM
I'd be wary of that, the Wii tried that and we got [parasitic bomb] like "Chicken Shoot". What they should try and do is step up QA to keep freeware/cheap/lazily made garbage from reaching the console.
I don't think the Wii held back on releases so much as the gaming populace rebelled against Nintendo cutting their hype trains short. Brawl was basically the last non-Zelda Wii game to get a long pre-release media showing, Mario Kart kinda missed the mark, and Nintendo started their ninja-secrecy launches from there. It left the gap feeling worse than it really was, IMHO.
Now, with the 3DS, they've definitely held their best foot back and I'm getting annoyed with it real fast. Pilotwings was welcome, but they could have done much more with it. Kid Icarus can't come soon enough.
Quote(Star Fox)
[tornado fang]. Yes.
Damn straight. *IF* they get back to the formula that actually works, anyway. Flight game sequels seem to always run into trouble when some idiot decides that flight isn't enough. >.>
QuoteWhat issues? Their saves being 60 blocks or so? why do those saves take so much damn space anyway? I've always wondered about that.
More like digital download issues. WiiWare games are subject to an extremely tight filesize limit, which is why MMU (before it was canned) was expected to skip it. Half a gig works fine for saves, but for a collection of N64 games, let alone original titles, you run into some serious storage issues. That's also why you basically never see post-release content developed for any Wii game.
Thankfully, with the 3DS, Nintendo had the good sense to design it to stream off of external storage (the SD card). The Wii was not, which leaves its "SD menu" as only an automated file swap with the system's flash memory, thus requiring one to leave empty space on an already tight system storage as well as grossly inflating the load time. It's one of my pet peeves with the system.
Is it bad that I'm hoping that Retro's the one working on Star Fox? They've done well with the other IPs, so I'd be able to trust them if they were the ones working on it.
Quote from: Acid on April 19, 2011, 10:44:01 PM
I'll take a guess and claim that, if SE is working on a title, it will be Dragon Quest X.
I have my doubts on that, but who knows at this point.
[tornado fang] it! I just got my Wii last year and now Nintendo pulls this? Man, I am always for the cool stuff.
QuoteNintendo considering launching Skyward Sword around the same time Wii's successor hits
Hay guys, remember when Nintendo delayed a finished Zelda game for an
entire year so they could make it a launch title for the Wii?
Man, that sucked.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on April 20, 2011, 02:29:00 AM
Is it bad that I'm hoping that Retro's the one working on Star Fox? They've done well with the other IPs, so I'd be able to trust them if they were the ones working on it.
Nope. I'm hoping they work on it!
Posted on: April 20, 2011, 12:57:32 AM
Speaking of Retro... (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156221)
- Retro Studios working on game for Wii successor
- taking on "a project everyone wants us to do"
- information comes from two sources within Retro
- company was amongst the very first to receive a development kit
- have been working ever since on a new project for the Wii successor
So yeah, I reaaaaaaaaaaally hope it's StarFox, since that's probably the title I want them to do the most! XD
Either that or Metroid Dread...
I think it said earlier that it's not Metroid related! XD
Starfox or F-Zero
http://www.technobuffalo.com/rumors/could-these-be-nintendos-new-project-cafe-controllers/ (http://www.technobuffalo.com/rumors/could-these-be-nintendos-new-project-cafe-controllers/)
http://kotaku.com/#!5794002/and-here-come-the-flood-of-fake-wii-2-mock+ups (http://kotaku.com/#!5794002/and-here-come-the-flood-of-fake-wii-2-mock+ups)
:3
I for one, welcome the fact that a Nintendo console has controllers again.
[spoiler]This is probably fake though[/spoiler]
Is it just me or was that mock-up done using Super Mario World screenshots?
Quote from: Kieran on April 20, 2011, 07:24:40 AM
Hay guys, remember when Nintendo delayed a finished Zelda game for an entire year so they could make it a launch title for the Wii?
Man, that sucked.
...no, that was pretty awesome.
Besides, it was nice to have a Wii game that actually looked as good as a high-end GCN game, damn lazyass developers (The Force Unleashed makes me want to poke my eyes out).
Anyway, the same thing wouldn't work here, considering that a pretty major hook of Skyward Sword is its Motion Plus use. Migrating that to traditional controller+touch screen would be a hell of a buzz-kill. And God knows Nintendo needs to do a better job of actually supporting their peripherals anyway (I weep for Wii Speak).
Quote from: Acid on April 20, 2011, 12:39:20 PM
Starfox or F-Zero
One would hope that Sega would return for F-Zero, given the amount of ass they kicked with GX, so if it's non-Metroid, then I'm seriously leaning towards Star Fox.
http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/04/rumor-retro-studios-big-new-project-cafe-title-is-eternal-darkness-2.html
That would be insane!
*ba dum tsh*
Oh wow. That'd be cool too, even though I still want a Star Fox.
Quote from: Acid on April 20, 2011, 12:39:20 PM
Starfox or F-Zero
Nintendo no longer loves F-Zero...
CURSE YOU NINTENDO! THAT WAS MY CHILDHOOD! O:<
Keepin' em coming! (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156338)
- should be backwards compatible with Wiimotes
- Project Cafe controller may have some sort of gyroscopic control
- still saying the platform is significantly more powerful than 360/PS3
- Project Cafe controller with built-in screen is indeed the platform's main control scheme
- Nintendo wants to launch in Q1 or Q2 2012 if possible
- controller will most likely not be able to retain any data of its own
- for streaming game content from console to controller, there will most likely be a range for data transfer, and the system will have to be powered on
- controller's internal guts should mostly be related to the buttons and content streaming
- another statement saying that Project Cafe games will be at E3, but will most likely not be playable
Eternal Darkness 2 huh? Odd, I thought the rights belonged to Silicon Knights. I guess that would explain why it never popped up anywhere else before though. Looking at the Prime series, I'm sure Retro could do it well, considering some of the elements they've already used before.
I've never actually played Eternal Darkness.
I wish that I wasn't the last get these awesome systems, I just had me Wii last year and I had yet to get any Wiiware. I hate having to wait to start my job!
Bluray? More powerful than 360/PS3? Touchscreen..?
hoooo boy. I wonder what the price for this baby's gonna be.
I'll be AMAZED if they somehow manage to keep it affordable.
All that amazing tech is like 2 years old by now so it'll probably only be a little more than the Wii was originally.
I'll be surprised if they release it for more than $250.
Align's right, considering that the 360 and the PS3 are already over five years old, you can probably build something with better raw specs without breaking the bank.
And the hits just keep on comin' (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156400)
- retail cost of anywhere between $350 and $400
- will ship from Taiwanese manufacturer, Foxconn, this October
- earliest possible retail release anywhere between mid-October and early November
- built on revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU architecture
- will out perform the PlayStation 3's NVIDIA 7800GTX-based processor
- CPU will be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset
- clocking speeds will be faster
- 1080p output with the potential for stereoscopic 3D as well
- overall size will be comparable to that of the original Xbox 360
- likely to resemble a modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System
- utilize controllers with integrated touchscreens and be capable of streaming games to each controller
- could feasibly provide a virtualized console for each individual unit
- considering naming the platform Stream, but there are several other names being considered
Sounds like they're putting more tech and less family-friendly this time. Just like old times...
I still hesitate to believe that the console will cost any more than the Wii and the 3DS. Every Nintendo console in history has been about the same price, and I can't see them doubling it now.
Edit: Though, I have to admit that the NES's launch price, if you adjust for inflation, was well over $400...
Are we sure that's the US price?
If so, totally called it. old or not, it is still new and powerful technology, and if this thing claims to be stronger than the 360 and PS3, there is no way it can be too cheap.
I'm gonna wager $300-350. Nintendo's pushed the envelope a bit higher than usual lately, but I don't see them launching a $400 console. Recall, if you will, that everyone and their dog claimed $300 for the 3DS (based on currency exchange rates, which was senseless).
More rumors (http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156522)
That mockup made me realize that Cafe controllers could basically look like oversized NES controllers. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing
GET HYPE. 8) (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110425_4e.pdf)
Yay I was reading that PDF a while ago. It's official! ^^
Can't wait~ :cookie:
The controllers better have rechargeable battery packs and not replaceable ones. I don't want to have to deal with finding new batteries.
How about cords you plug into the system?
Pfff, cords, in this day and age?
All kidding aside, I'd rather see removable battery packs. That way you don't have to buy a new controller whenever one stops holding a charge.
Xbox-style Play Charge kits, definitely
OH-fficial
Though... Ninty seems to be keen on docks now, if the 3DS is going to be setting trends and all, so controller docking...? (or i'm just mad)
Docking docking docking; all this talk of docking is making me want some Voltron.
Quote from: Rep on April 25, 2011, 07:29:03 PM
Xbox-style Play Charge kits, definitely
I support this~ Because it helps recharge the controller battery pack at the same time. ^^
Oh and...
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156627
Quote
The following commentary and information comes from Satoru Iwata...
- "It became difficult for developers to surprise customers with the current Wii. We will offer something new for home game systems."
- 3D will not be the main focus of the Wii successor
- Wii successor will not arrive until after April 2012
Curses! If it's not at X-Mas time, I might actually have to buy it instead of my usually B-Day/X-Mas gift! 8D
More rumors! (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156766)
- once again, no more friend codes,
- console will be designed around the concept of connecting, sharing, and gaming with others
- big online presence
- stream video of games being played to other peoples' machines
- could lead to joining up with that person's game for online play
Now this is getting interesting. Any talk of its price point yet? I'm a bit of a miser and my Wii is currently collecting dust so it'll be useful to know if I decide to buy one.
On that note, I have they manufacture enough units to keep up with demand. I remember having to stand outside to wait for the local Future Shop (Best Buy, only more Canadian) to open when they had an incoming shipment. Eighteen months after release.
My guess is it will be $250-$300.
Now if they announce a Pokemon MMORPG, then I'm sold.
Yeah, right.
Like I said, if they ever do it will break the bank wide open.
These new rumors sound like something that came out of Valve... but i better keep my expectations on the lowest level.
The rumors that dreams are made of... (http://purenintendo.com/2011/04/26/more-project-cafe-rumors-games-to-be-shown-off-at-e3/)
Quote- Nintendo are planning a full reveal of the console, controller and 1st/2nd party games at E3.
- The console is confirmed to be backwards compatible with all Wii/Gamecube titles, and all your VC games will be transferred over once you link your credit card to the system.
- Many 3rd party developers have development kits who are supposedly hard at work to have something to show (and play) at E3.
- 3rd Parties were involved with the development of the console, with requests for what specifications they'd like to see. As of now (which could change) the system runs of a custom built IBM triple-core CPU and has 2gb RAM. The graphics chip is a custom built Radeon R700 chip.
- There is an internal SSD. Size is unknown at this point.
- It will run natively at 1080p.
- The new controller slightly resembles a Gamecube controller with a large LCD screen in the middle of it. The controller is light for its size and looks like a tablet with Gamecube-like prongs to the side. It has dual analogue sticks, face buttons, d-pad and shoulder buttons. No triggers were on the device.
- The screen on the controller is indeed a 6″ LCD high resolution (reported 640 x 960 pixels) display. However, Nintendo said in order to keep battery life manageable, the controller doesn't have any hardware to produce graphics itself. The image is simply a video stream directly from the console.
- The controller uses rechargeable lithium ion batteries. Size of the battery is unknown.
- The Wiimote can be used and a new model of Wiimote will be released with the console. This new controller will have overhauled internals allowing for much more precise movement tracking than even the Wiimote Plus had.
- The Project Cafe system development kit is not representative of the final console design. The console is smaller and resembles the Japanese/European SNES models.
- Nintendo have told developers that their online system will be 'the best online experience' that's available on consoles. The whole idea of the machine is to be connected to the internet 24/7. It's being targeted as an online/social console. Friend codes are gone, but no word on whether the online service will be subscription based.
- The Pokemon RPG is the title Nintendo will be showing off their online experience with.
- As reported by other sources, Nintendo is targeting this console to the hardcore gamers once again.
- Nintendo is planning on some sophisticated inter-game communication between the 3DS and the console. Nintendo didn't explain what they're planning on.
To be shown at E3:
Nintendo:
- Pikmin 3 (playable, launch title)
- Pokemon RPG (video, launch or near launch title)
- Super Mario Bros title (playable)
- Star Fox (playable)
- Smash Bros 4 (playable)
- Mario Kart (video)
- Zelda (tech demo)
- Metroid (tech demo)
- New IP (video)
Rockstar Games:
- Red Dead Redemption 2 (video)
- Grand Theft Auto "New Title" (video)
Ubisoft:
- Rayman Legends (playable)
- Red Steel 3 (playable)
- New IP (video)
SquareEnix:
- Final Fantasy XV
Capcom:
- Resident Evil (video)
- Megaman (video)
- Monster Hunter (video)
EA:
- NBA '13 (video)
- NFL '13 (video)
- NHL '13 (video)
Activision:
- Modern Warfare 3 (video)
Konami:
- Metal Gear title (video)
- Winning Eleven (video)
Namco:
- Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (playable)
- Soul Calibur 5 (video)
- Pacman Rebirth (video)
AHAHAHAHA. I mean, no way this is all true, but man o' man!
Triple core? How unusual.
I'm liking what I'm hearing, again, no way in hell can it all be true but DAMN!
Would really like it if the VC game transfer is legit, that way I won't really have a reason to keep my Wii hooked up unless its for Homebrew.
Dual Analog Sticks on a large Gamecube type controller? Here's hoping they aren't as shoddy as the one analog stick on the Gamecube controller. (As in, hoping it won't wear out and become complete garbage.)
Ok, now THAT'S just too good to be true. Won't believe it until I see it.
Quoteall your VC games will be transferred over once you link your credit card to the system.
How would that even work? =/
What if we bought our games with Wii points?
Quote from: Flame on April 28, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
What if we bought our games with Wii points?
What I think they meant is linked up with your Club Nintendo Account. Which would make more sense.
Club Nintendo account is a better idea. Since I have like 120+ games registered on it. ^^;
That would make the most sense. It'd still screw me over though =/
Man, I barely beat Brawl and now a smash 4 is coming up? I cannot take it anymore! I hopwe they still support Wii online games or else I going to use Homebrew. I am not sur eif my warranty is up already.
I REALLY wouldn't get excited about that yet. Until it's proven otherwise just consider it as a fanboy's perfect wishlist.
Quote from: Solar on April 28, 2011, 06:43:49 PM
I REALLY wouldn't get excited about that yet. Until it's proven otherwise just consider it as a fanboy's perfect wishlist.
What kind of perfect wishlist includes annual sports games and COD?
The other stuff, sure, but EA and Activision are stale as ever.
adds to believability
Quote from: RMZX Anarchy on April 28, 2011, 10:38:39 PM
What kind of perfect wishlist includes annual sports games and COD?
The other stuff, sure, but EA and Activision are stale as ever.
The one that wants to stay slightly credible. Even then those just make it more unbelieveable considering it says they'll be announcing the '13 titles before even finishing the '12 ones. Hell, it's not even just announcements, it says there'd even be footage, why would they work on those games before even finishing their predecessors?
Because it's really just the same game with minor tweaks every year.
Quote from: Align on April 28, 2011, 10:49:38 PM
adds to believability
Quote from: Kieran on April 28, 2011, 11:18:03 PM
Because it's really just the same game with minor tweaks every year.
And the people still throw down $60 for a game that is the same exact thing, but when they zoom in on the players faces you can see sweat! Oh my god it has to be bought because its marginally more realistic!
MW3 would probably be "With one new weapon and a new single player campaign that will last 20 minutes!"
Anywho, back on topic. I hope that new Megaman game for Cafe is legit. Can't go wrong with more Megaman.
I hope they actually call it the nintendo Cafe.
That way i can say "Im gonna play some cafe"
It would just sound so bizzare
Quote from: Solar on April 28, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
why would they work on those games before even finishing their predecessors?
As a former Activision employee I can tell you that's nothing new. I've seen a case of
THREE sequels being worked on before the game even released.
Well, it's not surprising, but still, I'm sure that you can agree that announcing the '13 version before the '12 version is even out is just plain stupid.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 29, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
As a former Activision employee I can tell you that's nothing new. I've seen a case of THREE sequels being worked on before the game even released.
You used to work at Activision? What was it like?
Quote- Smash Bros 4 (playable)
The next time Nintendo pours some Liquid Schwartz into my hype train, they
DAMN WELL had better throw in some Mewtwo action!
I dislike Lucario with every fiber of my being. The character just irritates me. SO much. Now Mewtwo on the other hand... is awesome.
Quote from: RMZX Anarchy on April 29, 2011, 01:07:52 AM
You used to work at Activision? What was it like?
I imagine it must have been similar to working on the pyramids as a slave in Egypt. XD
Quote from: Flame on April 29, 2011, 02:17:45 AM
I dislike Lucario with every fiber of my being. The character just irritates me. SO much. Now Mewtwo on the other hand... is awesome.
Well [parasitic bomb]. *Has a Lucario on his Black team*
Lucario doesn't bug me, I actually enjoyed using him in Subspace Emissary. What bugs me is the number of people who think he plays even remotely similar to Mewtwo; he doesn't (if anything, Zelda is the closest match).
So among all this Nintendo console fan-gasming, is it too out of line to ask for a Rogue Squadron 4, with controller-based targeting computer? And, for that matter, "2P gunner" options for Snowspeeder, B-Wing, Millennium Falcon, and Lambda Shuttle?
Lucario tries too hard to be Goku and fails.
Quote from: RMZX Anarchy on April 29, 2011, 01:07:52 AM
You used to work at Activision? What was it like?
Activision is a heartless soulless corporate machine. Creativity is stunted for the sake of 'too much risk'. Even the more original projects were pretty bad I thought as well. People were allocated to projects without much thought. A 'take anyone we can get' kind of scenario it seemed like. I've seen a lot of good ideas get cast aside because "its too much of a change, and since this already makes money without changing anything lets keep it that way". While under normal circumstances too much change can be bad, but they take it to the extreme and stagnate their top cash cow series as you probably all have noticed.
I liked the people I worked with though. Good group of guys. It was also interesting seeing a professional development environment. I don't regret it, that's for sure. I also don't want to go back at the same time.
In the end I was laid off when the economy tanked. Now I work for the police, go figure.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 29, 2011, 07:00:05 AM
Activision is a heartless soulless corporate machine. Creativity is stunted for the sake of 'too much risk'. Even the more original projects were pretty bad I thought as well. People were allocated to projects without much thought. A 'take anyone we can get' kind of scenario it seemed like. I've seen a lot of good ideas get cast aside because "its too much of a change, and since this already makes money without changing anything lets keep it that way". While under normal circumstances too much change can be bad, but they take it to the extreme and stagnate their top cash cow series as you probably all have noticed.
I liked the people I worked with though. Good group of guys. It was also interesting seeing a professional development environment. I don't regret it, that's for sure. I also don't want to go back at the same time.
In the end I was laid off when the economy tanked. Now I work for the police, go figure.
I think this kind of behavior goes on in a lot of game companies nowadays. Risk vs. Creativity. Sorry to hear about that though.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 29, 2011, 07:00:05 AM
Activision is a heartless soulless corporate machine. Creativity is stunted for the sake of 'too much risk'. Even the more original projects were pretty bad I thought as well. People were allocated to projects without much thought. A 'take anyone we can get' kind of scenario it seemed like. I've seen a lot of good ideas get cast aside because "its too much of a change, and since this already makes money without changing anything lets keep it that way". While under normal circumstances too much change can be bad, but they take it to the extreme and stagnate their top cash cow series as you probably all have noticed.
I liked the people I worked with though. Good group of guys. It was also interesting seeing a professional development environment. I don't regret it, that's for sure. I also don't want to go back at the same time.
In the end I was laid off when the economy tanked. Now I work for the police, go figure.
That explains why you act a bit negative sometimes...that sucks ):
If you dont mind me asking, what kind of work do you do for the police? Something computer related? Or just a regular cop?
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 29, 2011, 07:00:05 AM
Activision is a heartless soulless corporate machine. Creativity is stunted for the sake of 'too much risk'. Even the more original projects were pretty bad I thought as well. People were allocated to projects without much thought. A 'take anyone we can get' kind of scenario it seemed like. I've seen a lot of good ideas get cast aside because "its too much of a change, and since this already makes money without changing anything lets keep it that way". While under normal circumstances too much change can be bad, but they take it to the extreme and stagnate their top cash cow series as you probably all have noticed.
I liked the people I worked with though. Good group of guys. It was also interesting seeing a professional development environment. I don't regret it, that's for sure. I also don't want to go back at the same time.
In the end I was laid off when the economy tanked. Now I work for the police, go figure.
Heh, I can guarantee that isn't exclusive to Activision, from experience. At least the people you worked with were cool, sometimes there isn't even that luxury.
Quote from: Protoman Blues on April 29, 2011, 07:01:59 AM
I think this kind of behavior goes on in a lot of game companies nowadays. Risk vs. Creativity.
Activision just takes it to the logical extreme and snuffs out anything that they can't repackage and sell as a new product every year.
Quote from: Flame on April 29, 2011, 12:59:03 PM
If you dont mind me asking, what kind of work do you do for the police? Something computer related? Or just a regular cop?
Computer forensics & IT.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on April 29, 2011, 01:25:31 PM
Heh, I can guarantee that isn't exclusive to Activision, from experience. At least the people you worked with were cool, sometimes there isn't even that luxury.
Oh of course. EA is also a big offender. We actually had people from EA quit there and come to us, saying it was way better. That's a scary sentiment right there.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 29, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
Oh of course. EA is also a big offender. We actually had people from EA quit there and come to us, saying it was way better. That's a scary sentiment right there.
That kinda [parasitic bomb] sounds awful. Glad I changed my mind on wanting to be in Video Game Development.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 29, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
Oh of course. EA is also a big offender. We actually had people from EA quit there and come to us, saying it was way better. That's a scary sentiment right there.
I remember hearing from the wife of an EA employee whose husband was forced to work unpaid overtime but that was many years ago and I forgot where I read it.
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156766
Quote- once again, no more friend codes,
- console will be designed around the concept of connecting, sharing, and gaming with others
- big online presence
- stream video of games being played to other peoples' machines
- could lead to joining up with that person's game for online play
http://www.1up.com/news/nintendo-stream-console
And...
http://thenintendostream.com/ign-responds-to-wii-2-rumors/ (check this site more and more, since it might update daily)
QuoteConfirmed
* Nintendo is working on a Wii successor, due out in 2012. This is a no-brainer as we've gotten an announcement straight from Nintendo. The story was originally broken by Game Informer, back when it was a rumor.
* "Cafe" will be playable at E3. And not "playable" in the sense that there's simply a working unit on stage. Anyone who attends E3 2011 can get some time with the hardware, which should be very interesting.
Likely
* The system is codenamed "Project Cafe." Based on recent evidence I don't see why there is any doubt that this is the codename. IGN even says the name is verified by "multiple sources." But I guess it hasn't been outright confirmed.
* "Project Cafe" will be more powerful than an Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. This seems fairly obvious. The real question is how much more powerful will the new console be? Based on contradictions we've heard, it's difficult to tell.
* Nintendo's new controller design is more traditional, albeit incorporating a touch screen in the middle. This has come from a few major sites now, but I just hope it looks a lot nicer than the mockups we've seen.
* The system will be backwards compatible with GameCube and Wii. I don't think there is any other source for this rumor. But I want it to be true, and it would make the jump to a new system easier, even if that is true for any system.
* Games are being developed for "Project Cafe." The Wii struggled with 3rd-party support and based on what we've heard, they're trying to fix this problem with the new hardware. Basically, there better be games in development.
Possible
* One of the actual product names being considered for "Project Cafe" is Stream. I hope this is true as changing the domain name again would be annoying. But so far this rumor has only come from IGN, and they admit it's not set in stone.
* Rockstar and Nintendo are working together on amazing things. We've heard this a couple of times. And IGN's stance is they haven't heard any specific, but thinks it'd make business sense. Hopefully Nintendo can persuade Rockstar.
* Nintendo is going after the hardcore gamer market. As noted by IGN, this move would go against Nintendo's philosophy to appeal to "everyone," but at the very least it seems like they're working to bring in the Xbox 360 and PS3 crowd.
Unlikely
* Retro Studios is working on Eternal Darkness. This rumor came from a source that is not particularly reliable. Plus, as noted by IGN, "going from Metroid to Donkey Kong to Eternal Darkness" is a little strange.
* The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is going to jump to Project Cafe. I thought this was going to happen at first, but it definitely does look like Skyward Sword is going to be the Wii's last hurrah, which is probably for the best.
Quote from: RMZX Anarchy on April 29, 2011, 03:57:04 PM
That kinda [parasitic bomb] sounds awful. Glad I changed my mind on wanting to be in Video Game Development.
I still have aspirations of working in the industry myself, to which I'm working on to this day. In my opinion, the way to go is indie development. Tiny one team companies are popping up all over and developing for numerous platforms. Some more successful than others. In my spare time I'm working toward being an indie developer. Sometimes slower to progress than I'd like, but I move ever closer. I may not have the biggest budget, or the best talent and technology, but I will be able to make games I believe in. Games I have pride in. They'll never be triple A titles, or big cash cows, but they'll be fun games that people like my friends and I would enjoy playing. To me, that's what it's all about.
That said; There's no shame in working the triple A industry. You can learn a lot from being there. They have the budget and the big talent usually. I'd be happiest making small scale quasi retro titles with a small team, but I know I'll never be immortalized like the director of a multi-million dollar block buster.
I wish you the best of luck!
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 30, 2011, 03:43:05 PMSometimes slower to progress than I'd like, but I move ever closer. I may not have the biggest budget, or the best talent and technology, but I will be able to make games I believe in. Games I have pride in. They'll never be triple A titles, or big cash cows, but they'll be fun games that people like my friends and I would enjoy playing. To me, that's what it's all about.
Hey, with someone could make an enjoyable "retro game" adaptation of
the Great Gatsby on essentially no budget, then anything is possible.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 30, 2011, 03:43:05 PM
I still have aspirations of working in the industry myself, to which I'm working on to this day. In my opinion, the way to go is indie development. Tiny one team companies are popping up all over and developing for numerous platforms. Some more successful than others. In my spare time I'm working toward being an indie developer. Sometimes slower to progress than I'd like, but I move ever closer. I may not have the biggest budget, or the best talent and technology, but I will be able to make games I believe in. Games I have pride in. They'll never be triple A titles, or big cash cows, but they'll be fun games that people like my friends and I would enjoy playing. To me, that's what it's all about.
That said; There's no shame in working the triple A industry. You can learn a lot from being there. They have the budget and the big talent usually. I'd be happiest making small scale quasi retro titles with a small team, but I know I'll never be immortalized like the director of a multi-million dollar block buster.
Just keep at it. At least you have a realistic view of things, which is a very good start. Most people usually have a more... idealistic vision of things.
Quote from: OBJECTION MAN on April 30, 2011, 03:43:05 PM
I still have aspirations of working in the industry myself, to which I'm working on to this day. In my opinion, the way to go is indie development. Tiny one team companies are popping up all over and developing for numerous platforms. Some more successful than others. In my spare time I'm working toward being an indie developer. Sometimes slower to progress than I'd like, but I move ever closer. I may not have the biggest budget, or the best talent and technology, but I will be able to make games I believe in. Games I have pride in. They'll never be triple A titles, or big cash cows, but they'll be fun games that people like my friends and I would enjoy playing. To me, that's what it's all about.
That said; There's no shame in working the triple A industry. You can learn a lot from being there. They have the budget and the big talent usually. I'd be happiest making small scale quasi retro titles with a small team, but I know I'll never be immortalized like the director of a multi-million dollar block buster.
Awesome post right here. You and I have a lot in common just from reading this and as such, I wish the best for you in the future. Just keep at it. :)
Reading that over again, I'd like to point out that many indie companies/groups usually have a very hard time of it. For all the success stories we hear about, there's far far more disappointing tales out there. Don't get me wrong, developing games a la indie is certainly more entertaining since you have a greater say in it's development, but it's definitely not as good as lots of places make it seem.
Thank you all for your encouraging words.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on May 01, 2011, 03:14:00 AM
Reading that over again, I'd like to point out that many indie companies/groups usually have a very hard time of it. For all the success stories we hear about, there's far far more disappointing tales out there. Don't get me wrong, developing games a la indie is certainly more entertaining since you have a greater say in it's development, but it's definitely not as good as lots of places make it seem.
Haha, I know. It's a gamble, but for me I can't imagine not trying it. Perhaps misguided or arrogant, but I think my game ideas will work out very well and are generally better planned than most of the indie stuff I see. However, if it doesn't work out I can always just go back to putting badguys in jail. I find it an almost equally rewarding career.
Well, you also have experience in the triple A industry, so if you want to go indie, you already have experience with the big players to know how certain things work/should work/etc etc.
Not everyone does.
I really wasn't there that long to be honest. About 6 months before they went 'economy tanked' mode and axed half the department. New guys get cut first, me among that group.
I suppose I did learn a lot in those 6 months though.
6 months is a hell of a lot more than no months.
Microsoft trying to get on the E3 Gravy Train? (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=157535)
We shall see! 8D
I almost don't feel a need for a new console after the PS3 and 360. They both feel like they have a while to go yet before being replaced. I always use to look forward to the next generation of console, but to be honest this last generation felt like it didn't need to be replaced already.
It seems to me that the Wii and DS are being replaced more due to demand by developers than by players. I don't think that same demand is there for PS3/360 successors, which pretty much leaves their main reason for updating as "steal Nintendo's thunder".
If that rumor is even true.
Microsoft and Sony have no reason to go further just yet, considering how they extended the life of their consoles with their respective motion control.
Quote from: Hypershell on May 07, 2011, 05:31:48 AM
It seems to me that the Wii and DS are being replaced more due to demand by developers than by players. I don't think that same demand is there for PS3/360 successors, which pretty much leaves their main reason for updating as "steal Nintendo's thunder".
I think it's more in line with the typical Nintendo strategy. Whereas Sony & Microsoft have other divisions that make money for them, Nintendo just focuses on gaming alone, so when one of their systems starts to drop in sales, it's time for the next. Personally, I think Nintendo made the right call with the Wii in the first place. Now HD is much more mainstream, accessible, and possibly cheaper to develop, they can release a more powerful console for less of the cost and hopefully bring all the people they gained with the Wii over to the Nintenterprise.
Microsoft rushing out a system is pretty much what got them in trouble with the 360 and the [acid burst] poor god awful hardware it first started out with, so hopefully they are a lot more careful this time around with their next system. I think they want to do it cause Nintendo has the Nintenterprise and Sony has the NGP.
As for Sony.....I honestly don't know what's going to become of them. Due to the PSN debacle, they could have some seeeeeeerious lawsuits coming their way, and they need the NGP to actual make a profit, and quite frankly I don't see how it can. I don't see how that system is going to be under $350 at the launch date and besides the hardcore gamers & tech nerds, I don't see anyone buying it.
But we'll see at E3.
Microsoft likely doesn't give a damn if they get themselves into trouble in their gaming division, seeings how Windows is their cash-cow ("reliability", whether in hardware or software, really isn't their strongest point). Many believe that they entered the gaming scene mainly because they thought that Sony releasing a Linux-capable gaming console would threaten them.
And ah, the NGP. I'm sure it'll be "respectable" as the PSP was. But really, I find it funny how many people complain about the 3DS pricing when we all know there's no way in hell the NGP will be any better. Same goes for battery life, assuming the level of wireless activity between the two is comparable (3DS is heavy on that, but you can shut it off).
But does that mean that they will not support the Wii online anymore?
I had yet to get any Wiiware or VC but there are less than 'legitimate methods to get those. -_-Quote from: Hypershell on May 07, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
And ah, the NGP. I'm sure it'll be "respectable" as the PSP was. But really, I find it funny how many people complain about the 3DS pricing when we all know there's no way in hell the NGP will be any better. Same goes for battery life, assuming the level of wireless activity between the two is comparable (3DS is heavy on that, but you can shut it off).
Battery Like has always been the strongsuit of most Nintendo portables, I mean you can get 8 hours of battery on the Gameboy handhelds and you can shut it off anytime you wish without worrying about power. I am not sure about NGP or PSP but I do know that Nintendo had always been about quality when it comes to portables.
Quote from: Hypershell on May 07, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
Microsoft likely doesn't give a damn if they get themselves into trouble in their gaming division, seeings how Windows is their cash-cow ("reliability", whether in hardware or software, really isn't their strongest point). Many believe that they entered the gaming scene mainly because they thought that Sony releasing a Linux-capable gaming console would threaten them.
I agree, but if their next system has the same troubles as the original 360 release did, then people might not jump on it until their new new system comes out.
QuoteAnd ah, the NGP. I'm sure it'll be "respectable" as the PSP was. But really, I find it funny how many people complain about the 3DS pricing when we all know there's no way in hell the NGP will be any better. Same goes for battery life, assuming the level of wireless activity between the two is comparable (3DS is heavy on that, but you can shut it off).
Right now I think they have bigger things to worry about than the NGP, but yeah I agree.
Further speculation on this (and other general pre-E3 game news) goes here. (http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?topic=5965.0) Have fun guys. :)