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Reply #825 on: April 02, 2010, 08:12:20 PM
Casino Street Zone Act 1: Watch | Download
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Reply #826 on: April 02, 2010, 08:18:51 PM
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Reply #827 on: April 02, 2010, 08:25:14 PM
Close enough of a return to form for me to go on ahead and get my old name back.

Minecart's convoluted, and some of the jump/Casino spring physics are messed up, but it's close enough.
EDIT: And I just saw a BLOODY OPEN-BOTTOM spot in the 3rd Casino Street. OY!

There were a few open-bottom places in Sonic 2 and 3&K.  Just not nearly as many as in, say, Sonic Rush.

Their placement has always seemed kinda arbitrary, so Sonic 4 can't be faulted too badly for it yet.

I am curious about something else though.  Splash Hill Zone is unquestionably Green Hill Zone.  Lost Labyrinth is Labyrinth Zone, Casino Street is Casino Night Zone.  We're not even talking about inspiration here, we're talking about the developers blatantly copying the aforementioned zones from previous games and slapping a new coat of paint on them.  I'm not going to complain about that as such, but I wonder if they're doing it on purpose since "Episode 1" is apparently supposed to be a prologue for the rest of the game...  Could they perhaps be setting us up to relive the first few Sonic games before throwing something different at us?

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Reply #828 on: April 02, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
Hmm, maybe you do need the Homing Attack in spots after all. Oh well, no biggie.

Act 1 looks exactly the same as Casino Night. Not surprising. Act 2 is pinball ONLY, which is an interesting and almost welcome genre change. And Act 3 looks more different than I would've expected of this game. It's like Casino Night, but mostly indoors and has a ton of Carnival Night cannons. The boss looks like Casino Night's boss on easy mode. Looked really easy, though I did not expect him to Screw Attack.


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Reply #829 on: April 02, 2010, 11:38:16 PM
There were a few open-bottom places in Sonic 2 and 3&K.  Just not nearly as many as in, say, Sonic Rush.

Their placement has always seemed kinda arbitrary, so Sonic 4 can't be faulted too badly for it yet.

I am curious about something else though.  Splash Hill Zone is unquestionably Green Hill Zone.  Lost Labyrinth is Labyrinth Zone, Casino Street is Casino Night Zone.  We're not even talking about inspiration here, we're talking about the developers blatantly copying the aforementioned zones from previous games and slapping a new coat of paint on them.  I'm not going to complain about that as such, but I wonder if they're doing it on purpose since "Episode 1" is apparently supposed to be a prologue for the rest of the game...  Could they perhaps be setting us up to relive the first few Sonic games before throwing something different at us?

True, true. I didn't watch the other vids to see if they were open-bottom. The minecart didn't do that, thank god.

I think at this point, we need to let them do Paint-Coating. FFS, it's been how long since we've seen a decent game? They need some good influence; they've been hanging out with the wrong crowd.



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Reply #830 on: April 03, 2010, 01:07:18 AM
Casino level looks nice.

I bet there will be ice stage too... -_-


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Reply #831 on: April 03, 2010, 01:11:11 AM
In another episode, I think. ^^

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Reply #832 on: April 03, 2010, 04:39:06 AM
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Reply #833 on: April 03, 2010, 05:22:44 AM
Note how they're both in stages where the gimmick is the whole stage. Granted the Casino physics mess up is general, but the minecart is specific.

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Reply #834 on: April 03, 2010, 06:11:52 AM
Casino Street/Night doesn't look bad. If Sega can pull this off, I'd be all for giving it a shot. A return to classic Sonic is something I've wanted for years. 'Course, now I totally suck at the games. I gave Sonic 2 a spin (ho ho) the other day and it kinda left my rear quarters in ruins.

It's so embarrassing, over the last 11 years, I somehow started sucking at games I could play blindfolded as a kid.  >w<

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Reply #835 on: April 03, 2010, 07:50:59 AM
Close enough of a return to form for me to go on ahead and get my old name back.
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Reply #836 on: April 03, 2010, 07:52:50 AM
Aldo!

Yeah, that was a name I took on for a while there when Sonic Unleashed bombed and my patience for the ol' Blue Blur wore out. And while this game doesn't totally restore that patience, it's certainly looking better than what we've been getting, so I'm back to my old self.



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Reply #837 on: April 03, 2010, 10:22:08 AM
More~

Splash Hill Zone Act 1: Watch | Download
Splash Hill Zone Act 2: Watch | Download
Splash Hill Zone Act 3: Watch | Download
Splash Hill Zone Boss: Watch | Download
Lost Labyrinth Zone Act 1: Watch | Download
Lost Labyrinth Zone Act 2: Watch | Download
Lost Labyrinth Zone Act 3: Watch | Download
Lost Labyrinth Zone Boss: Watch | Download

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Reply #838 on: April 04, 2010, 04:36:50 AM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=119462

inb4 the link doesn't work because the post got deleted.

Also;
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Reply #839 on: April 04, 2010, 04:49:03 AM
[spoiler]HYPAA METAL SONIC!  8D

I can see he'll appear in the next episode.. but it makes me wonder.. he's starting to make a lot of appearances lately.. [/spoiler]
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So its about ass now huh? EVEN THE ASS HAS 'EXCEEDED'!

One mention of LEGENDS and everyone goes batshit.  :\

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Reply #840 on: April 04, 2010, 05:17:09 AM
Congratulations. Everyone's beaten Sonic 4 without having ever played it.

So much for Sega ever doing something like this again. Enjoy more [parasitic bomb] like Black Knight.



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Reply #841 on: April 04, 2010, 05:53:55 AM
You can thank the so-called fans for looking something to nitpick about every new sonic game.. and Sega's half-assed attempt at lockout. -u-'

Workshop/DA/YT/Photobucket なにかんがえてるの!?
So its about ass now huh? EVEN THE ASS HAS 'EXCEEDED'!

One mention of LEGENDS and everyone goes batshit.  :\

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Reply #842 on: April 04, 2010, 07:09:54 AM
This is only a fraction of the entire game, mind you. It's not over yet, and by next time maybe Sega will keep a closer eye on their goods.

All in all, I still like what I see. Rehashy or not, it looks fun. And in fact, I'm thankful for these vids for showing me EXACTLY what I'm getting into when I get the game. There's no uncertainty of what to expect. I know how the physics work, I know the gimmicks. I know I like what I've seen, and I've seen a huge chunk of the game, so transitively I should enjoy the game.


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Reply #843 on: April 04, 2010, 07:20:28 AM
Congratulations. Everyone's beaten Sonic 4 without having ever played it.

So much for Sega ever doing something like this again. Enjoy more [parasitic bomb] like Black Knight.

If "Sonic 4" was the best they can do when trying "something like this", then honestly, [tornado fang] it. They don't even need to bother. In the end, all that the leaking has done is just prove exactly that this is definitely a case of "it is what it is...".

If the game was actually any good, chances are....! The leaking would have only done more to help the game, rather than hurt it. You only have Sega-Sonic to blame for not doing "their" part.



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Reply #844 on: April 04, 2010, 07:50:04 AM
You can thank the so-called fans for looking something to nitpick about every new sonic game.. and Sega's half-assed attempt at lockout. -u-'
Hey, just because I nitpick something doesn't mean I hate it.



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Reply #845 on: April 04, 2010, 11:06:08 AM
If the game was actually any good, chances are....! The leaking would have only done more to help the game, rather than hurt it. You only have Sega-Sonic to blame for not doing "their" part.
Okay, stop. Usually, I take a pretty laid back approach on this, but this completely misses the point.

This is more serious because the we now have a whole game out on the market for all to see without playing three months in advance. In essence, this cripples potential sales of the title and, more importantly, casts doubts on Sega to ever try a project like this again (which I understand that even getting this thing green lighted was a pain because Execs weren't keen on the idea).

Long story short, kiss 2D Sonic good bye. All because the fans were too damn impatient and someone broke NDA by serving as a third-party and actually GIVING out the videos. This case is so severe, PartnerNET has been shut down. This has never happened at this level before and with an anticipated major multiplatform release.

Quality of the title because no one in this topic is qualified to talk about it (and kill yourself if you say you are just by staring at videos) is completely separate to the case here.



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Reply #846 on: April 04, 2010, 12:51:00 PM
I only took a peep at the first boss to see what it's like. Now I know they're more or less updated re-releases (I'm avoiding the word rehash because I, for one, like this idea), so I have a fair enough idea what to expect for the first few bosses. I haven't watched the rest because, well, I don't want to spoil the game for myself. I just want to play it and figure it all out for myself.

I'll still buy it.

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Reply #847 on: April 04, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Hey, just because I nitpick something doesn't mean I hate it.

It wasn't aimed at you, I was most likely directing it at the "fans" who think they can [parasitic bomb] out a better story and game than Sega. If they can, why don't they prove it with thier silly little game maker?

I'm still gonna give this a shot when I have the chance anyway, I have yet to skip a Sonic game~

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So its about ass now huh? EVEN THE ASS HAS 'EXCEEDED'!

One mention of LEGENDS and everyone goes batshit.  :\

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Reply #848 on: April 04, 2010, 08:19:19 PM
Okay, stop. Usually, I take a pretty laid back approach on this, but this completely misses the point.

This is more serious because the we now have a whole game out on the market for all to see without playing three months in advance. In essence, this cripples potential sales of the title and, more importantly, casts doubts on Sega to ever try a project like this again (which I understand that even getting this thing green lighted was a pain because Execs weren't keen on the idea).

Long story short, kiss 2D Sonic good bye. All because the fans were too damn impatient and someone broke NDA by serving as a third-party and actually GIVING out the videos. This case is so severe, PartnerNET has been shut down. This has never happened at this level before and with an anticipated major multiplatform release.

Quality of the title because no one in this topic is qualified to talk about it (and kill yourself if you say you are just by staring at videos) is completely separate to the case here.

Please. You're starting to sound like the admin goons over at Sonic Retro, at this point. If you choose to blame the "leaker" and those who gave him attention, to me, you're still missing out on the main thing. Leak or no leak, the game itself, and its inherent quality there of, is still the centerpiece of this menagerie.

And that's the basic thing. The video could have done so much more to "make the case" for the game. If the game played well (the main thing that was important), and really did more to prove that "Blue is Back~!", then huzzahs would have been uttered and people would have been happy to wait 3 more months to get the game for themselves. And since there's no Pulitzer-level story line being leaked, the only thing that has been spoiled are stage gimmicks, bosses and the like.

So, far as I'm concerned? This is no different from how, especially many years ago, it only took one importer to obtain a Japanese release of a game, many months to a year before the Western release, and spoil the entire contents of the game itself for non-importers/-Japanese speakers. Everything about the game would be laid bare, and then it'd just be on the other users to decide if they still want in or not. Fundamentally, that's all that's going on here, too.



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Reply #849 on: April 04, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
This is more serious because the we now have a whole game out on the market for all to see without playing three months in advance. In essence, this cripples potential sales of the title and, more importantly, casts doubts on Sega to ever try a project like this again (which I understand that even getting this thing green lighted was a pain because Execs weren't keen on the idea).

On the contrary. It's because I've seen the majority of the game in videos that I want to play it even more.

And really, this will kill sales? If it wasn't a Sonic game, maybe. But diehard Sonic fans will buy anything with the guy on the cover, no matter how good or bad the game is. Why do you think Sonic games ALWAYS get Player's Choice, etc.? I don't think Episodes 2 and 3 have much to worry about.


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