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Title: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Harruhy on December 26, 2008, 12:37:58 PM
Dash Jump, or Air Dash, which do you prefer?
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: The Drunken Dishwasher on December 26, 2008, 12:51:22 PM
As far as the series is concerned.  I really prefer dash jumping, mostly because I find fun into it, especially in terms of doing fun long jumps, seeing that shadow effect in some of the games (Zero series and X4-X6 coming in...X8 does have a bit of it, but dash mechanics in that are a tad different compared to the X games before it).  So...while Air Dashing is also fun, I find more fun into it via a fighter (Guilty Gear, being a good example of air dashing), Dash jumps, yeah X and Zero and eventually i'll play the ZX games, I like more.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Zan on December 26, 2008, 01:04:31 PM
How about both? Unless you see that as being spoiled by the ZX-series.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Harruhy on December 26, 2008, 01:17:07 PM
How about both? Unless you see that as being spoiled by the ZX-series.

Eh, it seems like it makes things too easy.


Something about Air Dash, whatever happened to dashing straight up? In X3, you can get the upgrade, and dash straight up, and in X4, with the upgrade, you can air dash, and hover. It seems like it would have made it a bit less annoying to get the buster upgrade in Storm Owl's stage. Was it just removed for gameplay?
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: RMX on December 26, 2008, 01:44:31 PM
whatever happened to dashing straight up?

Blade Armor had a pretty cool stop mid-air and dash in any direction thing.

I still prefer Dash Jump, it gives me a sense of speed.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Harruhy on December 26, 2008, 01:49:50 PM
Blade Armor had a pretty cool stop mid-air and dash in any direction thing.

While it was cool, I never really found it all that useful, except for select areas.


Oh, another thing, in X6, when Alia says the Falcon Armor wasn't repaired or whatever, why wasn't it ever repaired during the events of the game after the intro stage?
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Tickle Buffalo on December 26, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
The point of dashing is to go fast.
Dash jump lets me move faster than air dashing.

Dash jump wins.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Robert Oakes on December 26, 2008, 02:18:27 PM
While it was cool, I never really found it all that useful, except for select areas.


Oh, another thing, in X6, when Alia says the Falcon Armor wasn't repaired or whatever, why wasn't it ever repaired during the events of the game after the intro stage?

Probably as an incentive to use the new armors the game offers. If you need a plot explanation, you can presume the armor was eventually damaged beyond repair or there simply wasn't time for Alia to work on it, since she had her hands full investigating the Nightmare phenomena (or both).

Anyway, both dash jump and air dash have different uses, and whichever is more useful depends on the situation. Air dash tends to be more practical when you need to overcome obstacles the dash jump can't cover, such as reaching high ledges and dodging certain attacks. However, if I had to choose one over the other, I think I'd vote for the dash jump; it offers more mobility.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Harruhy on December 26, 2008, 02:24:18 PM
Doesn't anybody find it odd that Bass can dash, while X couldn't until the second game? I'm gonna assume it's just for gameplay.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Sub Tank on December 26, 2008, 02:24:59 PM
RUSH JET
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Hypershell on December 26, 2008, 06:03:15 PM
Oddly enough my decision varies with the game.  I tend to go for dash-jumps on X2-X6, but air-dashing in Xtreme2 and X8.  And even though there is no need to choose, I'd probably give air-dashing the upper hand in the ZX games, too.

So the game count is 5-4 for dash-jumping.  But you know what?  I'm going to vote air-dashing anyway, just to spite Inticreates for removing it from Zero. :P

Doesn't anybody find it odd that Bass can dash, while X couldn't until the second game? I'm gonna assume it's just for gameplay.
Well, unlike most armor abilities, dashing was an optional component of X's original specs (see X1 intro).  Apparantly Light just didn't bother to add it.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Karai on December 26, 2008, 07:04:39 PM
Air Dash for me. It gives me more control over movement.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on December 26, 2008, 07:16:14 PM
*cringe*

Wow, now that's a hard choice.

I like the Dash Jump, I really do. Whether it's on the ground or off of walls, it's a very empowering move.
Then there's the Air Dash, which is pretty easy to do, and in X5 and X6 proved quite useful. Also in ZX/A as well.

I guess I'm just going to have to say Air Dash. It'll save your tail.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: AquaTeamV3 on December 26, 2008, 07:45:11 PM
I'd have to say Dash-Jump.  I enjoy doing armorlesss runs, and you usually can't air dash during those (sans X7-8).  It certainly makes boss-fights more interesting as well.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Satoryu on December 27, 2008, 03:26:23 AM
dash jump for me. i dash jump all the time, whereas air dashes are situational. in X4 onwards, you lose all your momentum after an air dash, both horizontal and vertical. in X2 and 3, you keep the momentum. and in the latter's case, you can do it twice. X3's up air dash sucked balls, though. the Blade Armor fixed that.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 27, 2008, 04:18:54 AM
Nova Strike.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Jericho on December 27, 2008, 04:21:41 AM
Dash jumpan for me.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Fxeni on December 27, 2008, 05:43:02 AM
Dash Jump by far for me. Air Dash can actually get in the way sometimes for me, especially nowadays considering how used I am to having no armour on.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Galappan on December 27, 2008, 06:07:20 AM
SImply Dash Jump.

Oh My, i just can't imagine myself only having an Air Dash but NO Dash Jump at all (From X->Zero->ZX)

...DISASTROUS. >.>
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Protoman Blues on December 27, 2008, 06:28:51 AM
Sliding!   8)
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Jericho on December 27, 2008, 06:36:04 AM
Sliding!   8)

Go back to the classic series you. XD
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: RMX on December 27, 2008, 01:35:47 PM
Nova Strike.

The only good original answer
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Hypershell on December 27, 2008, 04:33:44 PM
I'd say the "original" responses to this thread are too obvious (love Sub Tank's, even if it's wrong series), but since nobody said it yet:

Falcon + Speedster, FTW
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Protoman Blues on December 27, 2008, 07:09:57 PM
I also like Air Dash + Speed Burner.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Satoryu on December 27, 2008, 08:39:59 PM
Oh My, i just can't imagine myself only having an Air Dash but NO Dash Jump at all (From X->Zero->ZX)

...DISASTROUS. >.>

partly because it's impossible.

Falcon + Speedster, FTW

this is true.

I also like Air Dash + Speed Burner.

this would be true if it was the other way around, preceeded by a dash jump.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on December 27, 2008, 08:53:46 PM
The only good original answer

Of course, the best answer is the X5 Falcon Armor's flight capabilities.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Align on December 28, 2008, 12:58:12 AM
Game won't really feel complete without both, but barring that...
Just air dash worked great in Xtreme 2, and it was more or less utterly required in later games, but with how they then remove your velocity making you drop like a rock, I prefer dash jumping.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Sakura Leic on December 28, 2008, 01:05:49 AM
I say Dash Jump because you use it the most in any game anyway.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Shiki Tohno on December 28, 2008, 02:39:29 AM
Dash Jump. Has better overall momentum conservation.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Nekomata on December 28, 2008, 03:26:39 AM
Doesn't anybody find it odd that Bass can dash, while X couldn't until the second game? I'm gonna assume it's just for gameplay.
Forte can Dash-double jump. Something Zero can't do until Zero 3.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Night on December 28, 2008, 04:09:24 AM
I prefer the dash jump, especially ones off of walls in the zero series games.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 28, 2008, 05:34:37 AM
partly because it's impossible.

Power Fighters Bass would have a word with you.

Posted on: December 27, 2008, 11:33:18 PM
I prefer the dash jump, especially ones off of walls in the zero series games.
this.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Jericho on December 28, 2008, 05:42:43 AM
This thread reminds me, Ultimate Foot Chip in Zero 3 > Everything in the Rockman universe regarding character movement short of Rush Jet (it's nostalgic!) and Skates in DASH/Legends (they were just awesome when you ran into cars with them). Shadow dash double jump forevah. XD
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 28, 2008, 05:44:56 AM
shadow double dash jump.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Jericho on December 28, 2008, 05:46:57 AM
shadow double dash jump.

I would have worded it like this if the Shadow Dash part of the Ultimate Foot Chip allowed you to pass through things during jumps as well. XD
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Satoryu on December 28, 2008, 07:01:19 AM
Power Fighters Bass would have a word with you.

we're talking X here, ho.

kidding. you got me there. but really, how useful is it there? not very. hell, the dash itself isn't very useful in that game. it's a suicide move.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 28, 2008, 07:03:32 AM
Unless you're Duo.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Satoryu on December 28, 2008, 07:06:20 AM
i'm talking Bass here. don't change the subject.

but now that you have, his down+jump move is the only one that's useful in that game. there's like nothing to slide under.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 28, 2008, 09:12:20 AM
You said the dash is useless in the game. I begged to differ. Duo has a spike on his shoulder that causes damage to anything it rams into while dashing. (which i thought was a pretty cool feature...)
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Police Girl on December 28, 2008, 11:52:47 PM
Classic Dash Jump, The Original and the best.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Satoryu on December 29, 2008, 01:14:13 AM
You said the dash is useless in the game. I begged to differ. Duo has a spike on his shoulder that causes damage to anything it rams into while dashing. (which i thought was a pretty cool feature...)

i'm talking Bass here. don't change the subject.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 29, 2008, 01:52:28 AM
I JUST DID >BD >BD
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: VixyNyan on December 29, 2008, 02:02:52 AM
(http://lol.rockmanpm.com/flame-ijustdid.png)
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 29, 2008, 02:28:09 AM
lol... +3...
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: HyperSonicEXE on December 29, 2008, 03:37:30 AM
Duo has a spike on his shoulder that causes damage to anything it rams into while dashing. (which i thought was a pretty cool feature...)

Spike?
SPIKE?!
SPIKE!!!

*bew bew bew bew bew bew bew*
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on December 29, 2008, 04:26:18 AM
took me a second there.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Turian on February 08, 2009, 09:48:03 PM
Gold max Armor= Dash jump+Air dash. Instant win.

[parasitic bomb]. I just necro-posted. Sorry DZ.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Shinichameleon / Nayim on February 09, 2009, 10:43:15 AM
Everybody loves Dash jump 8)
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Legendary on February 11, 2009, 04:28:04 AM
Agreed. Mainly because I like airsnaking with it. Also cuz I sometimes jump right into attacks and I like having the option of u-turning in the sky.

Plus, with dash jumping, you can clear the Great Wall!

...yes, you can. Of COURSE you can.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Hypershell on February 14, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Gold max Armor= Dash jump+Air dash. Instant win.
Be thankful this is an X-series thread, 'cuz Model HX destroys that.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Zechs on February 21, 2009, 07:54:52 AM
Well, Dash Jump. But with the limitless Nova Strike, Dash/Strike = Win.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on February 21, 2009, 08:29:07 PM
Honestly, id say it depends on the situation. if you want to just hurry the [tornado fang] up, then dash jump.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: AdamTheHedgehog on March 16, 2009, 09:30:58 PM
Dash Jump; Gets you much farther sometimes than a air dash does.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Flame on March 17, 2009, 02:21:20 AM
dude, topic's been dead for a while now.
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Police Girl on March 17, 2009, 02:31:44 AM
Somehow, I don't see this guy hanging around much longer. I wonder why... 8D
Title: Re: Air Dash v.s. Dash Jump
Post by: Harruhy on March 17, 2009, 03:49:18 AM
*locks*