The new next-gen 2013 Xbox reveal (discussions here)

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Reply #175 on: May 23, 2013, 12:32:05 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124268-Microsoft-Exec-If-Youre-Backwards-Compatible-Youre-Really-Backwards

Smooth, Microsoft. Real smooth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *inhale* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Reply #176 on: May 23, 2013, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from:  Microsoft Exec: "If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards" @ The Escapist
According to him, only five percent of customers play previous-generation games on new gaming systems.



-EDIT-
The Xbox One:


In actuality:


Seems about right.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0&hd=1[/youtube]


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Reply #177 on: May 23, 2013, 08:28:26 PM
You know its bad when Vixy can't even find any merit in the system.

Somehow that made me lmao.

Well I know where this [parasitic bomb]'s going to appear one day...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWuDhJTMHUs[/youtube]
Believe me, its destined to appear there one day.

Hey James. We got a present for ya. >0<

But then again read this [parasitic bomb]
They think they're so smart... NOT!



Oh yeah, this... >0<

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0&hd=1[/youtube]

aand, THIS! >0<


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Reply #178 on: May 24, 2013, 07:35:03 AM
Hey, all this Xbox TV business reminds me of something...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTpeYoqAhc[/youtube]

Yeah...
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4352710/live-tv-on-the-xbox-one-microsoft-didnt-learn-from-google-tv

Posted on: May 23, 2013, 04:54:41 PM
It just gets better and better!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/22/xbox-one-incompatible-with-current-gaming-headsets

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #179 on: May 24, 2013, 07:42:08 AM
Wow, just wow.

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Reply #180 on: May 24, 2013, 07:43:53 AM
They won't stop until the hole they've dug themselves into collapses on top of them.



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Reply #181 on: May 24, 2013, 08:14:52 AM
Cause that hole obviously won't be full of money.

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Reply #182 on: May 24, 2013, 08:18:41 AM
Yeah, they squandered what they had with the 360.



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Reply #183 on: May 25, 2013, 01:27:36 AM
So that whole used games fee problem? Apparently they'll try to have specific retailers outfitted with 'Azure' systems that can cross-reference your Live account when you sell a game to them, so they remove the game from your system to avoid keeping it on your system. Okay. And apparently they'll force retailers to only allow a 10% discount on pre-owned Xbone games. The [tornado fang].

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124323-Update-Xbox-One-To-Take-Cut-With-Every-Pre-Owned-Sale

[spoiler]Was going to say that the retailers only get a 10% cut but apparently that was a misreport on their end at first.[/spoiler]



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Reply #184 on: May 25, 2013, 03:34:13 AM
Oh god I just want to see how much worse it gets! XD

Posted on: May 24, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Is9YJ/www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-24-microsoft-applies-for-patent-on-tv-achievements

I just don't know how these guys think anymore. XD

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Reply #185 on: May 25, 2013, 04:12:02 AM
So now I can get stupid bragging rights awards to show off that I have sat through terrible shows and animes like Johnny Test and Queen's Blade?

[tornado fang] no. I think sitting through one season of these drecks is a monumental achievement all on thier own, thank you very much. B(

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Reply #186 on: May 25, 2013, 04:14:15 AM
Oh god I just want to see how much worse it gets! XD

Posted on: May 24, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Is9YJ/www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-24-microsoft-applies-for-patent-on-tv-achievements

I just don't know how these guys think anymore. XD



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Reply #187 on: May 25, 2013, 04:24:11 AM


There better be a Shark Repellent achievment too.



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Reply #188 on: May 25, 2013, 08:12:31 AM

That's so unrealistic.

That achievement would be worth AT LEAST 15G

OH [parasitic bomb] IM USING LINK AND I ACCIDENTALLY FINAL SMASHED A CUCCO OH GOD HELP
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Reply #189 on: May 25, 2013, 10:33:31 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-yaverbaum/so-long-sony-why-the-crit_b_3333781.html


"Microsoft has nothing to prove when it comes to making gamers happy."


Actually, they do.

Consider the following:

the Xbox was a GAMING console.

the Xbox 360, despite all the features that got added in along the way, was a GAMING console.

And Sony's PS4, is going to be a GAMING Console.

Xbox has to compete with it, and all the TV and sports and Halo TV shows in the world will not win over the gaming market, (particularly the core gamers of the market) who are tuning in to Microsoft's Xbox One to see GAMES. not TV, they can watch that already. they want GAMES. they want a gaming machine that will blow them away with graphics, speed and power, and any other bonus features are just icing on the cake.

However, MS has made all the WRONG decisions, and included all the WORST aspects of these features.

complex archaic DRM- you have to install your game to the hard drive, rendering the disc useless to star with when you can go full digital instead like Steam. (and given they are pushing their online, it's not impossible). To play used games, you have to pay a full game price fee. if you want to play your game on another console? you have to pay a fee. This system KILLS the tradition of game lending among friends and family, not to mention the used games market that many gamers use to get games cheaper.

orwellian Kinect surveillance. The Kinect MUST be connected for the system to work. And it will be active all the time. Even when the system is turned off.

TV SPORTS TV SPORTS- have I mentioned already, how nobody cares about this aside from the casual gaming market, who sees this as the most amazing thing? the non-gaming people will not buy this, because they already have ways of watching TV and sports and blu-ray, and don't need an "all in one" system. the hardcore market, aside from a select few, will skip this, because of the hoops and loops and un-friendly DRM you have to jump through to play games, and not be able to share a disc with your friend.

a select few of both of those groups, and even the casuals, will skip this because of the orwellian big brother kinect.

so who exactly is the target audience? casual gaming rich people who can waste money on an "all in one" that replaces things they already have?

the PS4 and Wii-U will be the winners of this generation simply because of one reason:

they are actually concentrating on making a system dedicated to playing GAMES, for GAMERS. Not watching TV and spying on your life. Also, since neither of them have all the extra bullshit added to them, they will both likely be cheaper than the One. (the Wii most assuredly is)

if Microsoft wants to make an all in one, go ahead, but don't mask it as a gaming console.

...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.


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Reply #190 on: May 25, 2013, 01:20:12 PM
I hope that sales of the XBOTCHED won't catch up to those of the WiiU or PS4 until all this bullshit is excised. Even near-universally reviled flops like the Jaguar had to have gotten better reveals than this (or if they didn't, they are now not that bad in retrospect).



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Reply #191 on: May 25, 2013, 04:27:13 PM
Man these guys are delusional, oh well just wait until profits in the console devision are at an all time low, especially internationally.  I really wonder how much this thing will cost, it has to be really expensive will all that TV crap the Xbone is putting in.

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Reply #192 on: May 25, 2013, 04:51:38 PM
I can tell that it won't be worth $300-400 for an over-glorified DRM-botched TV box. It shames me high-profile developers like Hideo Kojima and Ken Levine were even in the damn intro of Xbitch One's reveal.


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Reply #193 on: May 25, 2013, 05:15:06 PM

I guess all I can really say is it isn't exactly what I'd expect out of a $4.4M game

It doesn't even have mouth animations


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Reply #194 on: May 25, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
Gee, it is almost as if this were a terrible marketing decision...


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Reply #195 on: May 25, 2013, 08:55:26 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4352710/live-tv-on-the-xbox-one-microsoft-didnt-learn-from-google-tv

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"For the first time, you and your TV will have a relationship."

That should make the OTHER kind of technophiles happy.

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Reply #196 on: May 25, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
What about those of us who have no TVs?  What will we do?


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Reply #197 on: May 25, 2013, 09:05:41 PM
What about those of us who have no TVs?  What will we do?
You wouldn't play video games on console if you don't have one.

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Reply #198 on: May 25, 2013, 09:09:04 PM
Hasn't stopped me this weekend.  You should see the crazy temporary Wii setup.  Wii plugged into a converter cable that's plugged into a laptop, with the laptop plugged into a monitor, so we're playing the Wii on two screens.  It's a huge tangled daisy chain of cords.


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Reply #199 on: May 25, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
You wouldn't play video games on console if you don't have one.

The Wii U Car trip kind of shoots that down.

Though you can't do that to play Wii games, it'll at least make more sense with Virtual Console games.

But in all other cases, yes, you can't really play consoles without some sort of screen or crazy workaround.