Ever since I have learn about these two concepts, I became fond of them. I have always(well, almost) did see a bit of charm in them. Trying to become a different being and never saying a word... well, alomst never.
Link Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kigurumi
So, what are(or wre) your thoughts on these concepts? Do you still find Fursuits and Kigurumi creepy and disturbing? Did you find any good pictures of them?
So what would creep you out the most? The very bad designs with little effort and it makes it obvious that that's a male in that suit, or the really good designs with pure effort and looks very ambiguous. And if there is actually a female in that suit...
The same can apply to Fursuits. And mostly how both act and potray.
I also realise something...
http://ko-kr.facebook.com/pages/Malibu-CA/KCL-PRODUCTIONS-MASCOTS-WALKAROUND-COSTUMES/6878389150
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx5qPWZZEb8
Some Mascot Coatumes used for advertising really are well-made.
I... I... what?
I mean, wait... you mean... no, I mean... what?
Please... please go away.
I mean... this Kigurumi [parasitic bomb] is one thing, but finding FURSUITS charming? I just... WHAT THE HELL, MAN?!
......
ARAMLAKmlamlaamlfdmalmflsamfslsalafmala
Has anyone made a Blue Badger Costume yet? :3
Quote from: Night on October 28, 2010, 04:32:00 AM
Has anyone made a Blue Badger Costume yet? :3
Hey, now THAT would be awesome. : >
Quote from: Return X on October 28, 2010, 04:11:44 AM
I... I... what?
I mean, wait... you mean... no, I mean... what?
Please... please go away.
I mean... this Kigurumi [parasitic bomb] is one thing, but finding FURSUITS charming? I just... WHAT THE HELL, MAN?!
......
ARAMLAKmlamlaamlfdmalmflsamfslsalafmala
Yeah, I'm insane.
I DO NOT THINK LIKE THOSE FREAKS! I try to visualize this as an art form. As Trying to animate something to life.
Sometime, thoughts and imagination can make a person go too far, think they really are the character.
But, really, it's suppose to be like the character costumes that entarain people in theme parks, not the erotic kind.
Oh, and I AM NOT ONE MYSELF!
Robotnik fursuit > Major LOL
Quote from: geekgo4 on October 28, 2010, 04:47:46 AM
Yeah, I'm insane.
I DO NOT THINK LIKE THOSE FREAKS! I try to visualize this as an art form. As Trying to animate something to life.
Sometime, thoughts and imagination can make a person go too far, think they really are the character.
But, really, it's suppose to be like the character costumes that entarain people in theme parks, not the erotic kind.
Oh, and I AM NOT ONE MYSELF!
Okay, okay I get it.
Never the less... Fursuits of any kind deserve to be burned, and are not in any way a form of art.
[Neither are kigurumi, but whatever]
*stares blankly* I see RPM has reached new lows in my absence.
I'm disappointed in life. Bye. *jumps off a bridge*
Quote from: Return X on October 28, 2010, 05:31:46 AM
Okay, okay I get it.
Never the less... Fursuits of any kind deserve to be burned, and are not in any way a form of art.
[Neither are kigurumi, but whatever]
Seriously what have you got against these suits?
...it's the erotic crap, isn't it?
Quote from: geekgo4 on October 28, 2010, 06:03:16 AM
Seriously what have you got against these suits?
...it's the erotic crap, isn't it?
[tornado fang]ing furries.
That's all there needs to be said.
Quote from: geekgo4 on October 28, 2010, 04:47:46 AM
I DO NOT THINK LIKE THOSE FREAKS!
Oh, and I AM NOT ONE MYSELF!
Denial~
Which stage is that again?
Quote from: CephiYumi on October 28, 2010, 06:12:29 AM
Denial~
Which stage is that again?
Okay. I can't afford a suit. I can't pull off the facade either.
I just like looking at the designs. So much work and texture. Is that so wrong?
Suurely some one here has a favorite form of costume desing.
Quote from: geekgo4 on October 28, 2010, 06:40:18 AM
Suurely some one here has a favorite form of costume desing.
Indeed.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/20uya11.jpg)
I don't want to see this stuff when returning to RPM after having been gone for so long... But... I... Ugh, whatever floats your boat man.
Quote from: Return X on October 28, 2010, 06:48:24 AM
Indeed.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/20uya11.jpg)
Ahhh, much better.
This too:
[spoiler](http://www.maridah.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/rinandsaber-21-of-26.jpg)[/spoiler]
I say "whatever floats your boat".
You like it? Good for you.
just dont bring all that fursecution crap my way, and im just fine.
"art form"? well, if you mean something Akin to Cosplay or just plain costuming and [parasitic bomb], than I guess? thing is, most furries dont quite see it that way. They just want to BE anthropomorphic animals.
The "Dolling" one, or whatever wikipedia called it, IS actually rather creepy. But once again, whatever floats your boat.
That aside, random topic on the matter is random.
Well... I did want to post something like this during the end of October, because of... the costumes.
Okay, I can see that the idea of fursuits CAN be a bit off by some people.
But, I guess the the point still stands. Most people here want to see a face, instead of a mask.
I guess do some character costumes form theme parks creep you out, as well?
Personally, when I design costumes, I like to design a full-head mask. It's more challenging to do so, and the end result can be awesome. I'd rather cover the face than allow it to show through, unless the costume I'm designing is clearly human. The majority of my costumes, though, have been full-head masks and accompanying ensemble. They are very restrictive, very stuffy, hard to see out of, and very, very hot, I can assure you that. I don't envy mascot characters at all, or anyone who needs to stand under hot stage lights in a full costume.
Anywho, I've been monitoring this topic to an extent. The discussion of costuming is fine, and I would rather it stay there. If it starts going into fetishes, though, this bugger's getting locked.
QuickEdit: I changed the title to something a bit more broad. Now, let us move away from the icky connotations associated with fursuits and to a general costuming topic of discussion.
I guess it can't be helped. At least someone knows the concept.
In addition to full-head masks, many "Dollers" tend to use skin-tight garments called "Zentais" to cover the entire body. That way, no one can really tell if they performer is either mal e or female.
Here's a couple of vids on how's it's made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeEYszaQD8o
So, Quickman. Is this something you have seen before?
But, anyway, for Full Costuming, I was really talking about stuff like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daYz7q7YV8w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsdLVXj_wFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsdLVXj_wFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9RRkBGfW4
What do you think, now?
I kinda like the kigurumi. As I see it, to each their own.
Quote from: Return X on October 28, 2010, 06:48:24 AM(http://i52.tinypic.com/20uya11.jpg)
*o*
Who and what is that?
Quote from: Quickman on October 28, 2010, 08:40:47 AMIf it starts going into fetishes, though, this bugger's getting locked.
:(
Quote from: Spectrolysis Dolorum on October 28, 2010, 06:58:33 PM
*o*
Who and what is that?
That's a cosplay of Lelouch from Code Geass. ovo
Quote from: GuardianHX on October 28, 2010, 07:14:57 AM
I don't want to see this stuff when returning to RPM after having been gone for so long... But... I... Ugh, whatever floats your boat man.
Ahhh, much better.
This too:
[spoiler](http://www.maridah.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/rinandsaber-21-of-26.jpg)[/spoiler]
This will work too:
[spoiler](http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/273/1/4/icy_penguigo_by_kenjiko-d2ztajc.jpg)[/spoiler]
Sometimes fursuits should be better off left as Mascots.. *shrugs* >.>
Quote from: Night on October 28, 2010, 08:52:50 PMThat's a cosplay of Lelouch from Code Geass. ovo
That's not how I remember Lelouch... I'm guessing that must be some kind of uniform.
Quote from: Spectrolysis Dolorum on October 29, 2010, 05:13:28 AM
That's not how I remember Lelouch... I'm guessing that must be some kind of uniform.
I don't get it.
Are you serious, or are you just pretending?
Either way... it's not Lelouch.
IT'S ZERO!
Quote from: Gaia on October 28, 2010, 10:25:56 PM
This will work too:
[spoiler](http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/273/1/4/icy_penguigo_by_kenjiko-d2ztajc.jpg)[/spoiler]
Sometimes fursuits should be better off left as Mascots.. *shrugs* >.>
They're not that bad. NOt all fursuiters think nor go "that way."
Some of the suit I' have seen are actually...(dare I say it)...
...cute.
QuoteIf it starts going into fetishes, though, this bugger's getting locked.
You do realize that this topic will always be treading that fine line right?
Quote from: Return X on October 29, 2010, 05:21:26 AMI don't get it.
Are you serious, or are you just pretending?
Either way... it's not Lelouch.
IT'S ZERO!
Quote from: Night on October 28, 2010, 08:52:50 PMThat's a cosplay of Lelouch from Code Geass. ovo
What the [tornado fang] man.
Quote from: Spectrolysis Dolorum on October 29, 2010, 06:24:22 PM
What the [tornado fang] man.
Hey... Zero is Lelouch and Lelouch is Zero.
ALL IS FINE IN THE NATURAL ORDER OF FORGETTING WHAT I WROTE BEFORE!
HEIL!
Quote from: Spectrolysis Dolorum on October 29, 2010, 06:24:22 PM
What the [tornado fang] man.
Lelouch and ZERO are the SAME PERSON, aren't THEY?!
Quote from: geekgo4 on October 29, 2010, 07:13:10 PM
Lelouch and ZERO are the SAME PERSON, aren't THEY?!
Quote from: Return X on October 29, 2010, 06:55:25 PM
Hey... Zero is Lelouch and Lelouch is Zero.
Way to restate the already addressed.
=w=;;
sorry about that...
..but Zero is Lelouch's alterego.
I still like Kigurumi...
(http://seriaya.minidns.net/fig05.JPG)(http://seriaya.minidns.net/fig08.JPG)(http://seriaya.minidns.net/fig04.JPG)
I don't care what anyone thinks, I find this fascinating...
Quote from: Talyn on October 29, 2010, 11:14:35 PM
I still like Kigurumi...
(http://seriaya.minidns.net/fig05.JPG)(http://seriaya.minidns.net/fig08.JPG)(http://seriaya.minidns.net/fig04.JPG)
I don't care what anyone thinks, I find this fascinating...
Heh. Animegaos(the real term) can also be describe as "Living Dolls"
...though, those pictures might be pushing it.
Hm, well I think this is an interesting topic. While I know the taboo with it, I don't think that as a whole it should be hated so much. Who hasn't known a kid to dress up like an animal at Halloween? I think the problem is when it is sexual. And again, as someone mentioned, that they want to be the animal or the person and that disturbs some people.
Then again, why is pretending to be someone you aren't so terrible? L.A.R.P.ers, while usually teased, are not so ostracized as the fursuiters. Maybe it's in the way they present themselves? Oh well, anyway on topic...
Taking it as just wearing a costume a full body outfit isn't all that weird really. I see it as an art form, sure, a lot of time and work can go into making a good costume. Homemade costumes, especially one made well and that look like who or whatever they are emulating, can be a testimony to someones true devotion to the art or their fanatic devotion to the series they base it off of.
I think the problem with the... Anime Kigurumi is it? Is the 'creepy factor' of the masks. But really, how can fans of any sort of anime complain? The proportions don't translate well into real life. Of course the fans of the anime kigurumi like it, but for those who don't, I think it is just their mind not liking the transfer between the anime and real life.
Again, just my opinion. I personally like more cosplay-still-human-face. Oh if only I had the money for some catears and a tail. Another boring Halloween for me. *sigh*
yeah. its the masks that are unsettling a bit.
Honestly how can people breath in those things, well other than the fact that the mask is obviously loose. Anyway I find it creepy but I'm not one to judge.
Well, from experience with wearing full-head masks, breathing in those things is very difficult. It's best, when wearing those kinds of costumes, to keep strenuous activity to a minimum to keep from overheating. And take frequent breaks. Breathing through a straw helps, too.
Other than the High Octane Nightmare Fuel, I probably could think of another reason why most fans would have distaste in these forms of costuming.
It sometimes degrades/berates the character fans like.
Oh, another thing about full-head masks... If you intend to ever wear one, make sure to wipe down the inside with Lysol prior and after wearing it. I got sick twice now after wearing a full costume for an extended period of time. With all that trapped air, sweat, and such, they're a biohazard after a while.
I never would have figured it would take more than just simply putting another head on your head.
But seriously, no one knows any good photos of how costuming is shown? Shown right, that is?
Well, I have posted plenty of pics of my Xenomorph, and that is a full costume. It includes a full-head mask. But I'm not sure what type of costuming style you're looking for.
The thing about full costumes is that they are quite difficult to build. If you don't know what you're doing and/or lack the resources to build such costumes, it can seem like an impossible undertaking. That and it requires some effort to wear the costume after it's built as they are really hot. There are many people who can't handle how hot a heavy costume will get, and that may be one of the things that dissuade them from building those costumes.
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