Topic: Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (Wii, PS3, 360, iPhone)

[Protoman Blues]

I can't stop laughing at this photo!

[Satoryu]

Yes because an unfinished hack is indicative of an official product.

I'm only referring to the fact that Megamix gives you the option to turn off Super Sonic music. Wish they'd do the same for invincibility and speed shoes.

[Gaia]

Oh, and look at that! Useless enemy "air bridges" also returned!

Air bridges are for wussies. I spent half of Sonic Rush and Adventure without using them unless it's forced into a stage whereas you have no choice. Looking at you, last act (Yes, before the Final Boss, I always referr to Act 7's last chance emerald zone as the "Last Act").

[HyperSonicEXE]

Finally! FINALLY!

Playable Super Sonic!

I'm not worried about the Homing Attack or the enemy bridge; honestly, they're awesome (in theory) in 2D. We'll see how the mechanics on that plays out.

I got what I wanted. Now I wait.

[Flame]

Sounds good to me.
I DO worry about this "New move" though.

[Hypershell]

...So basically, ol boy Iizuka went for this whole "DLC" avenue in the first place, because they couldn't see people spending 50-60 bucks for a 2D Sonic game on disc.

I'll be curious as to how the combined price of all four DLC episodes compares.  Because I'm VERY eager to call bull on that one; I find it more likely that they simply enjoy the iron grip that DLC gives the distributor on the product.

So, Iizuka was asked about Tails and Knux, gave no definite answer but hinted they'd be in Episode 2.

[Waifu]

As long as we keep with Sonic, Robotnik, Tails and Knuckles with no new friends, I am going to love this game.

[STM]

And if Fang is in to mug you of the emeralds in episode 2?

[Waifu]

That would be great too!

[Mirby]

What we need is MIGHTY! I've been saying this since frickin' Sonic and the Black Knight. WE NEED MIGHTY BACK!

[AquaTeamV3]

What we need is MIGHTY! I've been saying this since frickin' Sonic and the Black Knight. WE NEED MIGHTY BACK!

But that's not going to happen as the guy who designed him ragequit.    I still say that it'd be very sweet to get playable Metal Sonic (or at least have him as a boss).

[Mirby]

I hate ragequitters.

Wait, even though he quit, he's still an established part of the Sonicverse, right? So can't Sega bring him back? It's not like he took the copyrights and stuff to Mighty with him...

[AquaTeamV3]

That's exactly what the guy did!

[Mirby]

Well, let's hunt him down and steal them from him so Mighty can be in this.

[AquaTeamV3]

Wait, scratch that.  I just looked into the matter, and apparently that whole thing about Mighty leaving was a hoax.  He was more or less scrapped because Sonic Heroes' teams are made of 3 characters.  That said, I agree that he's long overdue for a return, along with Ray the Squirrel!

[Mirby]

Bean the Dynamite?

[HokutoNoBen]

I dunno what the fuss is about Mighty. I mean, really, back in Chaotix, he was just a palette swap of Sonic, with a wall-jump ability. 

Any way, the likes of Mighty and Fang are among the only ones I have left who have yet to be sodomized by modern day Sega/Sonic. Frankly, I'd prefer it to stay that way. Or hell, give 'em to the likes of Sega AM, Treasure or P*, and allow them to start anew (and FAR FAR AWAY from Izuka and dem). 

Bean the Dynamite?

Bean and Bark both may have appeared in Sonic the Fighters, but technically, they are Sega AM (Virtua Fighter, Fighting Vipers, etc)'s creations, who appeared as "guest characters" in StF, and later in Fighters Megamix.

If AM ever got around to doing another "light-hearted" fighting game starring those two and Honey, I'd be ecstatic. Again, just keep them far away from SegaSonic!     

[Mirby]

Yeesh, at least I knew about Bean. Then again, the Sky Fish is a Sonic maniac (who still admits that the later games are basically [parasitic bomb], so a good Sonic maniac)

[Flame]

relevant.

[Gotham Ranger]

Something looks off, but I can't decipher what

[Hypershell]

That's exactly what the guy did!

I know you already retracted that, but I just thought I'd chime in: Archie comics still uses Mighty under the Sonic license.

[STM]

In reality, it's because the character has no noticeable niche that isn't taken up by another character:

Knuckles is the brother from another mother character now in that there's a rivalry, but no different from the one you'd see between two best friends or brothers.

Shadow, meanwhile, moved into Knuckles' old gimmick of being a straight rival, only with the new anti-hero centered trait of all his actions being for his own benefit, so he dances a line in between both good and evil.

Silver is the upstart rookie who wishes to show how competent he is... pretty much Axl.

Blaze is also in Shadow's rival character archetype but she leans much more toward good.

And of course, we have Metal Sonic, who is swinging between master and slave, but regardless, is considered a ruthless killing machine or a loudspeaker for Eggman.

Where would Mighty fit in? Having two alike characters isn't encouraged in gaming or story writing in general unless there's a damn good reason for them being alike.

[Flame]

Silver is the upstart rookie who wishes to show how competent he is... pretty much Axl.

Is it just me, or does Silver SOUND just like Axl as well as generally being the same kind of character?

[Hypershell]

In reality, it's because the character has no noticeable niche that isn't taken up by another character:

Well, Sega's already ignored that ability-wise (Werehog vs Chaos 0).  Character-wise, there are so damn many new-age Sonic characters that I doubt it'd matter.  Where do the likes of Big and Cream fit into those character niches?

I'm going with the popular opinion that Mighty got booted out of the Chaotix due to Heroes' 3-character system.  That in turn effectively severs all of his character relations, unless Sega is willing to bring Ray back.  There's no reason they can't have him return, and rewrite him as they did the rest of the Chaotix, to fit whatever role they see fit.  They just won't.

Mighty may not need to be as prevalent as, say, Knuckles or Shadow, but I think he could stand to make another appearance.

[Waifu]

At least Axl managed redeem to himself (sort of) in Command Mission and X8 by being less annoying but Silver is just some weird intrusion that I felt should had stayed in one game.

Well, Sega's already ignored that ability-wise (Werehog vs Chaos 0).  Character-wise, there are so damn many new-age Sonic characters that I doubt it'd matter.  Where do the likes of Big and Cream fit into those character niches?

Cream & Cheese have a character niche?