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HyperSonicEXE · **Reply #150 on:** March 03, 2010, 09:04:38 PM

Quote from: Taiyo on March 03, 2010, 08:55:19 PM

So then it's OK if I want portable classic Sonic then?

Passable would be the better word. $:\$

Hypershell · **Reply #151 on:** March 03, 2010, 11:40:59 PM

I think I'll just continue to hope that jEnesis DS is one day updated to be able to handle a game as large as S3&K. Plug any other Sonic game/hack into it and it works just fine. In the meantime, there's always Mega Collection.

HyperSonicEXE · **Reply #152 on:** March 03, 2010, 11:44:13 PM

Quote from: Hypershell on March 03, 2010, 11:40:59 PM

I think I'll just continue to hope the jEnesis DS is one day updated to be able to handle a game as large as S3&K. Plug any other Sonic game/hack into it and it works just fine. In the meantime, there's always Mega Collection.

Provided its structure is right and has a decent number of buttons or functions, I'm buying an early PSP2.

Then, not touching it until a certain, later point in time.

EDIT: There is a good thing about this Collection; the Special Stages function extremely well. I'm impressed by the improved handling in the S3&K special stages compared to previous emulations.
I've missed playing as Tails...so cute and can fly.

Satoryu · **Reply #153 on:** March 05, 2010, 07:55:20 PM

My friend picked this up yesterday, so we all got to try out some of it. I played up till Carnival Night in S3K. And I noticed quite a bit of inconsistencies.

For some stupid reason, the game select calls S3K "Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 3."
There are no multiplayer modes or options menus.
Sound effects sometimes don't come out right. Like if you release a spin dash as soon as you start it, you won't hear the "pshoo" sound, just the revving sound.
There is more lag in places. And the game in general does run slower than normal. Probably due to a reduced framerate.
The background in the magnetic spheres bonus stage is [tornado fang]'d up.
There's a lot of flickering in the special stages. The ground jitters so much at times, it's nauseating.
During a boss fight, you can slowly scroll more of the screen thanks to the cropping done.
Upon completing an act, the screen will move a bit closer to the center, so your character might get cut off during the score tally.

All in all, though, it's still playable. If you really really want to play the Genesis Sonics on the go and haven't already put emulators on your portable devices, you'll be just fine with this.

Kieran · **Reply #154 on:** March 05, 2010, 08:30:42 PM

Makes you wonder why the hell they removed the options menus.

Ike-Mike · **Reply #155 on:** March 05, 2010, 09:21:01 PM

Well, at least it doesn't sound to be as much of a disaster as Sonic Genesis.

Satoryu · **Reply #156 on:** March 06, 2010, 02:02:08 AM

Quote from: Kieran on March 05, 2010, 08:30:42 PM

Makes you wonder why the hell they removed the options menus.

They must not want us to be able to cheat.

Quote from: Ike-Mike on March 05, 2010, 09:21:01 PM

Well, at least it doesn't sound to be as much of a disaster as Sonic Genesis.

Oh nowhere NEAR as bad. I can't even call Sonic Genesis playable, it's so broken.

HyperSonicEXE · **Reply #157 on:** March 08, 2010, 09:53:29 PM

I don't know why they took out the Options, Start Button, and the Level Selects. And Multiplayer.

UGH! Somebody figure out how to hack this game.

Satoryu · **Reply #158 on:** March 08, 2010, 10:36:50 PM

I don't think pause on the touch screen is necessarily bad. It's just unexpected.

HyperSonicEXE · **Reply #159 on:** March 08, 2010, 10:46:21 PM

I've gotten used to the Touch Screen Pause, but if I had the Start button, I could at least do Sonic 1's Level Select.

I heard the "ring" sound after UDLR.

xnamkcor · **Reply #160 on:** March 09, 2010, 06:51:15 PM

Quote from: Sato on March 05, 2010, 07:55:20 PM

My friend picked this up yesterday, so we all got to try out some of it. I played up till Carnival Night in S3K. And I noticed quite a bit of inconsistencies.
For some stupid reason, the game select calls S3K "Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 3."
There are no multiplayer modes or options menus.
Sound effects sometimes don't come out right. Like if you release a spin dash as soon as you start it, you won't hear the "pshoo" sound, just the revving sound.
There is more lag in places. And the game in general does run slower than normal. Probably due to a reduced framerate.
The background in the magnetic spheres bonus stage is [tornado fang]'d up.
There's a lot of flickering in the special stages. The ground jitters so much at times, it's nauseating.
During a boss fight, you can slowly scroll more of the screen thanks to the cropping done.
Upon completing an act, the screen will move a bit closer to the center, so your character might get cut off during the score tally.

All in all, though, it's still playable. If you really really want to play the Genesis Sonics on the go and haven't already put emulators on your portable devices, you'll be just fine with this.

Can he run it on an emulator and try to force the menu option to be selected through RAM hacking?

Gaia · Quote from: Gaia on May 07, 2010, 12:30:32 AM

Quote from: Sato on March 05, 2010, 07:55:20 PM

My friend picked this up yesterday, so we all got to try out some of it. I played up till Carnival Night in S3K. And I noticed quite a bit of inconsistencies.
For some stupid reason, the game select calls S3K "Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 3."
There are no multiplayer modes or options menus.
Sound effects sometimes don't come out right. Like if you release a spin dash as soon as you start it, you won't hear the "pshoo" sound, just the revving sound.
There is more lag in places. And the game in general does run slower than normal. Probably due to a reduced framerate.
The background in the magnetic spheres bonus stage is [tornado fang]'d up.
There's a lot of flickering in the special stages. The ground jitters so much at times, it's nauseating.
During a boss fight, you can slowly scroll more of the screen thanks to the cropping done.
Upon completing an act, the screen will move a bit closer to the center, so your character might get cut off during the score tally.

All in all, though, it's still playable. If you really really want to play the Genesis Sonics on the go and haven't already put emulators on your portable devices, you'll be just fine with this.

For some reason the PC port (AKA: Sonic & Knuckles Collection) is better emuliated, with the exception of music (that I can live without) than most of the ports today.

xnamkcor · **Reply #162 on:** March 09, 2010, 07:00:53 PM

Quote from: Gaia on March 09, 2010, 06:54:58 PM

For some reason the PC port (AKA: Sonic & Knuckles Collection) is better emuliated, with the exception of music (that I can live without) than most of the ports today.

Sonic & Knuckles Collection owns the sky.

Someone needs to make a jukebox hack for it with Winamp(like that one arcade emulator(kawaks?). That way we can use the GYM or VGMs. Or set up some sort of trainer that watches the EXE for music prompts and makes winamp play certain files.

Mirby · **Reply #163 on:** March 10, 2010, 02:31:15 AM

I had that, and I loved it. I d/led it and it just sucks. Yes, classic Sonic for new generation is good, but still. If you want to play these, do one of the following:
1. Download on VC
2. Buy Sonic Mega Collection (or SMC+)
3. Get an old Genesis if you don't have one already and get the originals
4. Emulate on PSP or something...

A good attempt, admittedly better than Genesis (although taking a [parasitic bomb] is better than playing that atrocious abomination), but they could've done better. Much MUCH better...

Also, am I the only one who wants the UDLR in Sonic 4?

Frozen Potato · **Reply #164 on:** March 11, 2010, 01:49:49 PM

Quote from: Mirby on March 10, 2010, 02:31:15 AM

Also, am I the only one who wants the UDLR in Sonic 4?

Your not the only one...

UDLR+C *ring*

i lost mah StH,StH2 and S&K tape lol......somone robbed it.....missed em....

xnamkcor · **Reply #165 on:** March 11, 2010, 05:32:17 PM

Quote from: Mirby on March 10, 2010, 02:31:15 AM

I had that, and I loved it. I d/led it and it just sucks. Yes, classic Sonic for new generation is good, but still. If you want to play these, do one of the following:
1. Download on VC
2. Buy Sonic Mega Collection (or SMC+)
3. Get an old Genesis if you don't have one already and get the originals
4. Emulate on PSP or something...

A good attempt, admittedly better than Genesis (although taking a [parasitic bomb] is better than playing that atrocious abomination), but they could've done better. Much MUCH better...

Also, am I the only one who wants the UDLR in Sonic 4?

Emulating on the PSP rocks(as long as you don't mind using Fast Emulation(water coloring is weird). I have Sonic, Knuckles in Sonic, Sonic 2, Knuckles in Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I had Sonic CD, but I don't care for it much.

PS: Play Sonic(2 or 3 is prefered) with those red and blue 3D glasses.
PPS: There might be a seizure risk.

Mirby · **Reply #166 on:** March 13, 2010, 10:41:57 PM

Codes do work in this. Screenies of proof. At least these two work. Apparently, you need to be S3&K for that one to work... Stupid.

You need to hold Y and press Start. However, since the Options menu was removed from S2 and no competition option in S3 means no codes for that.

Also, lol cut off level select screen.

Kieran · **Reply #167 on:** March 15, 2010, 02:39:44 PM

But wait a minute, how'd you get to the Sonic 2 level select screen without the options menu? I thought that was the only way to do it.

Police Girl · **Reply #168 on:** March 16, 2010, 04:57:37 AM

Look Closer, its Knuckles in Sonic 2. That one didn't have an options screen, you entered the code in on the title screen.

Kieran · **Reply #169 on:** March 16, 2010, 02:33:22 PM

Oh, I forgot about that.

xnamkcor · **Reply #170 on:** March 16, 2010, 05:18:13 PM

Quote from: Kallen on March 16, 2010, 04:57:37 AM

Look Closer, its Knuckles in Sonic 2. That one didn't have an options screen, you entered the code in on the title screen.

Wasn't Sonic 3 & Knuckles done by doing it while hanging on a swinging vine?

Mirby · **Reply #171 on:** March 16, 2010, 08:45:01 PM

But you need to hold A+Start (on the genesis version at least) to return to the title screen. No pause means no debug mode.
Also, relevant:

Which would you rather play? Original, vibrant Sonic, or crappy, washed-out, shrunken Sonic?

ARGH! Dang forum is resizing it! It's supposed to be 896x448, but it resizes it to 500x250! ARGH!

Psycho Yuffie · **Reply #172 on:** March 16, 2010, 09:10:32 PM

First of all, I love the Genesis. It was my second console. Admittedly, I pretty much only got it for the Sonic games. I never thought the games ran bad on it. I wasn't much of a Mario fan when I was younger, so I didn't see the point in a SNES. Also, I didn't really get into RPGs until high school and I didn't even know about the RPG monopoly the SNES had until that time either.

Second, Mirby, you're playing it on an emulator. Those aren't the true colors of the DS screen. The vibrant color mode in No$GBA is actually a bit closer to the real experience.

Third, size is relative to where the screen is being viewed. The DS is meant to be paid within a personal distance. This means that the size of the screen isn't that big of an issue. I think that the cropped screen is bit more of a concern. It doesn't look like they adjusted the resolution to fit the DS, they only centered it over the screen. I would assume that would cause numerous potential glitches.

Mirby · **Reply #173 on:** March 16, 2010, 09:19:56 PM

Whatever. The point remains, the originals are much better.

Also, the level select screen resizing proves the point.

Satoryu · **Reply #174 on:** March 16, 2010, 09:54:11 PM

Back when I was trying the game out, I thought something was up with how Sonic looked. Turns out yeah, the screen's scrunched in. That probably caused the flickering I saw as well.

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