GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)

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Reply #400 on: August 10, 2010, 03:04:31 PM
Didn't DiDio want Batman to become a god or whatnot?
No, that's Morrison.



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Reply #401 on: August 10, 2010, 05:20:28 PM
No, that's Morrison.
These days, I assume everything that doesn't make sense or is bad or I don't like in comics is either Quesada or DiDio's fault.



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Reply #402 on: August 10, 2010, 07:18:06 PM
It will be picked up again. They just needed to give Ollie a Robin Hood kind of way this time. As soon as he and his Merry Men step out of the forest, they'll be reinstating his marriage into the story.

Well, J'onn does have to burn it down! XD

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BTW, anyone got any theories to how Batman's gonna get out of being surrounded by Dollotrons and how Joker's gonna survive Damian's beating? =P

Dollotron repellent Bat-Spray? Or Bruce shows up, perhaps.

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And can anyone make the connection as easily as I can to how Batman's gonna be the new Orion?

It would be rather New God-ish, and Morrison loves him some New Gods.



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Reply #403 on: August 10, 2010, 07:28:12 PM
These days, I assume everything that doesn't make sense or is bad or I don't like in comics is either Quesada or DiDio's fault.
It's not exactly that. See, I'm a Morrison fanboy. But I used to hate the guy, because I just heard about his concepts. Heck, I used to hate DC, but I didn't really give any of its stuff a chance, simply because I found the concepts ridiculous.

Grant Morrison has Batman be thrown through time, and travel back through the ages while uncovering mysteries about his bloodline and interacting with DC historical figures and time travellers. That was just after a dark God suddenly became a mega-consciousness in Earth, Superman reset the universe and then saved it from a reality-eating vampire.

That sounds really lame just saying it. It does. But read it, and it's absolutely AWESOME.



And the Bat-God thing, was referring to both Batman being someone who can basically survive anything (so Morrison skipped the usual brooding street-level crap and posed him with a REAL challenge), and aparently, there are a ton of references to Batman being Orion.

You see those antlers where Batman left his cowl on the cave? Look at the symbol they form. Look at how Orion's constantly referenced in the comic.

Batman's gonna be the new Orion, at least in a way.



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Reply #404 on: August 10, 2010, 10:25:34 PM
Funny, cause I've always loved Morrison, at least his DC work. I never read his X-Men comics.



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Reply #405 on: August 10, 2010, 11:44:41 PM
Funny, cause I've always loved Morrison, at least his DC work. I never read his X-Men comics.
Read them awhile ago. They're as Morrison-like as they can be.

Do read them. You won't even feel like you're reading Marvel. Plus, Frank Quitely art. And awesome multidimensionally colorful storylines like Morrison does best.

...just don't look up who Xorn is or you'll be spoiled. Comics-wise, it's pretty much as known as the "Aerith dies"  spoiler or the "Atlas is Fontaine" one.

Up until now, I think I've only disliked one Morrison comic. "How I Killed My Boyfriend". It's kinda bullshit, but I guess it's alright in an indie sort of way. The rest of his stuff, like Doom Patrol, Animal Man, The Filth, The Invisibles, We3 ande everything else is amazingly awesome.


...also...



...what?

...MAKE UP YOUR MIND QUESADA



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Reply #406 on: August 11, 2010, 04:47:41 AM
Read them awhile ago. They're as Morrison-like as they can be.

Do read them. You won't even feel like you're reading Marvel. Plus, Frank Quitely art. And awesome multidimensionally colorful storylines like Morrison does best.

...just don't look up who Xorn is or you'll be spoiled. Comics-wise, it's pretty much as known as the "Aerith dies"  spoiler or the "Atlas is Fontaine" one.

Heh, I already know, so no worries there.



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Reply #407 on: August 11, 2010, 05:52:15 AM


...what?

...MAKE UP YOUR MIND QUESADA

So Pete and MJ are married again? I'm confused.

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Reply #408 on: August 11, 2010, 06:13:46 AM
The best thing about this is that from what I've read, all it explains is the marriage. It doesn't explain why Harry is back, what happen to Peter's "Other" Spider-powers, etc.



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Reply #409 on: August 11, 2010, 08:25:49 AM
Spider-man has gotten me so confused in recent years that I just don't care anymore.

And speaking of Frank Quitely, while I like his art, his people always look like they have pursed lips.  Half-lidded eyes, pursed lips, like they're either smug as hell and needing a slap across the face, or they see something that disgusts them.  He seemed to favour that pose and composition for a while, from what I remember.  I haven't seen his recent stuff, though.  He may have ditched that.


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Reply #410 on: August 11, 2010, 09:25:10 AM
And speaking of Frank Quitely, while I like his art, his people always look like they have pursed lips.  Half-lidded eyes, pursed lips, like they're either smug as hell and needing a slap across the face, or they see something that disgusts them.  He seemed to favour that pose and composition for a while, from what I remember.  I haven't seen his recent stuff, though.  He may have ditched that.
He hasn't. But I still loooooooove him. 8D

The best thing about this is that from what I've read, all it explains is the marriage. It doesn't explain why Harry is back, what happen to Peter's "Other" Spider-powers, etc.
For a man who mutilated half a comic book instead of making his own and then added crap like "bad guy falling takes out Spidey" or "bird frees villain", I'm surprised you're surprised on such a quality story. =P



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Reply #411 on: August 11, 2010, 10:18:52 AM
For a man who mutilated half a comic book instead of making his own and then added crap like "bad guy falling takes out Spidey" or "bird frees villain", I'm surprised you're surprised on such a quality story. =P

LoL, who said I was surprised. I expect nothing from this man anymore. XD



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Reply #412 on: August 11, 2010, 05:25:01 PM
Hey, guys.
I'm soon going to go and read all of this [parasitic bomb] called Scott Pilgrim. I've never read it, and I just know that's it's about a guy who has to batte all of a certain's girl's ex'es in order to get some pussy from her.
And blatantly obvious vidya gaems references.
Beside that, what am in for?



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Reply #413 on: August 11, 2010, 05:41:22 PM
Wherever you go on the internet, you'll hear one of two things:

1- HIPSTER BULLSHIT BURN ALL OF IT DOWN
2- OH GOD I LOVE IT IT'S THE REBIRTH OF COMIC BOOKS

Truth is, Scott Pilgrim's a funny little comic. I, myself, didn't enjoy it IMMENSELY as at first everyone did. It's a love story with No More Heroes-styled ranking battles. Gaming references are the blatantly obvious kinds (the kind that's like "pass me the mushrooms" "OH IS THAT LIKE IN MARIO?" Seriously, it's that bad), and the story is pretty enjoyable. I love certain characters, think many can be very cool, and rest assured that both the movie and the game are AWESOME (far better than the comic even). My main problem with it, is that both the main characters are immensely unlikeable. Scott and Ramona are supposed to be rooted for, but you end up loving the rest of the cast (who actually does something other than whine about their lives and act cool) that you'll end up having a bit of hatred for those two. But Scott eventually turns into that friend of yours who's an [dark hold], the story turns into something you've invested in and you deserve to know more, and you know what? It's one of those things which, if not for a ton of blatant [tornado fang]ing publicity and "BEST THING EVER" shoved in our faces, it would have been that one cool little comic we would have found out and thought: "Wow, this is pretty cool and fun". But as it stands?

Well, Scott Pilgrim is something that would have worked better as a webcomic. It's a comic about a guy that almost seems autobiographical and "coolified" in order to give it some kinda pizazz. I didn't like the first volume, then warmed up to it, then pretty much ended up liking, but not loving it. I do expect to love the movie, and currently am totally addicted to the game, mostly because those two are made by reputable and excellent directors/developers.

My advice? Download and read all of it. It's of webcomic standards, but it's pretty good, I guess. Not for everyone. I kinda like it.



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Reply #414 on: August 11, 2010, 06:01:25 PM
Okay.
I get it...
So I've started reading it... and I already learned that Scott is 23 and he's dating a 17 year old chinese girl.
wat

and that his band is sexy bob-ombs

and that, indeed, the supporting cast is more interesting.

Just by barely reading few pages.

Wow.



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Reply #415 on: August 12, 2010, 04:39:43 AM
So is scott pilgrim like a highlander plot?



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Reply #416 on: August 13, 2010, 05:53:39 AM
From what I gather, it's more of nerd fantasy.  I've been tempted to give it a look for a while, but never got around to it.  If one took a gander at my bookshelf, they can see that my interests clearly lay elsewhere.  My manga section is very small, while my graphic novel section is dominated by DC and Star Wars. 


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Reply #417 on: August 15, 2010, 03:11:08 AM
I'll end up reading it now that I've seen and loved the movie. (It's now my favorite movie of all time and I'll glady see it another bazillion times. I'm sorry).

Sorta' made me upset though that whatever medium involves that many video game references and general background (which things are doing more and more these days) that everyones' just gonna' be like 'Oh well they're just copying Scott Pilgrim'.

Other than that I read Maus a while back. It's the only comic book / graphic novel / whatever to make me teary. I also think about how much our world has changed since then.

It's pretty difficult to read. It just goes on and on and on. Though I guess that's the point and it just heightens the content.


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Reply #418 on: August 15, 2010, 07:55:17 AM
I liked Scott Pilgrim to a certain degree, although I do agree that the supporting cast is far stronger for pretty much the whole series. I have yet to see the movie, but I'll be looking into it. The game looks interesting too, despite its dev.



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Reply #419 on: August 15, 2010, 08:18:27 AM
The movie was very enjoyable, I thought.



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Reply #420 on: August 19, 2010, 03:46:05 PM
Just got into reading my first WildStorm series, Planetary by Warren Ellis. I'm digging it. It's like X-Files on steroids (and I [tornado fang]ing loved X-Files).



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Reply #421 on: August 19, 2010, 07:03:12 PM
Just got into reading my first WildStorm series, Planetary by Warren Ellis. I'm digging it. It's like X-Files on steroids (and I [tornado fang]ing loved X-Files).

I heard good things about it, are there any trades?

In other news, what are everyone's impressions on Brightest Day? I'm currently finding the Deadman, Firestorm, and Martian Manhunter portions but not so much the Hawks or Aquaman's. The former is a shame because I always liked Hawkman.

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Reply #422 on: August 20, 2010, 05:29:19 AM
So far I am liking it very much!



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Reply #423 on: August 20, 2010, 08:26:59 AM
Me too.  I haven't been going as tie-in crazy as I'm short on cash, but what I get, I like.


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Reply #424 on: August 20, 2010, 08:47:08 AM
I heard good things about it, are there any trades?
There's a 4 volume collection and a 2 volume collection. Also a collection of all 3 one shot crossovers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_%28comics%29#Collected_editions

Take your pick.

I'm loving it. I'm up to #18 and I'm loving the analogues of the different superheroes. Whether it be The Four or a quick flash of Cap's shield.