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Reply #125 on: May 06, 2009, 09:16:07 PM
And stop giving Evee evolutions, it has enough already (Fire, Dark, Psychic, Water, Elec, Grass, Ice). o.o;

YOU SHUT YOUR POKEMOUTH! 

Eevee should have EVERY possible Evolution.  EVERY ONE!  Steeleon, Poiseon, Buzzeon, Spectreon, Puncheon, Draceon, Cloudeon, Buzzeon, Sandeon, and Graveon!



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Reply #126 on: May 06, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
Now that's something I completely agree with XD


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Reply #127 on: May 06, 2009, 09:17:37 PM
There's quite a few pokemon that have been completely swept undertow while others like Tangela and Rhydon were given more evolutions. Pinsir could use a Scizor like evolution, for one. Tauros is pretty much doomed, Lapras, Kangaskhan, Hypno, Persian... there's still a lot of older mons that need some boosts.

PB: And then the God Eevee with all elements and that schools the crap out of Arceus?



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Reply #128 on: May 06, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
Now you know why I love my Eevee~ can turn into anything, but it's even cuter just as it is. ^^

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Reply #129 on: May 06, 2009, 09:19:29 PM
But six is good enough for me, I was thinking of overevolving Gardevoir extra forms, as well as everyone else.. that way no two pokemon can be exactly the same.

Besides, there are more multi-forms of others 'sides Evee.. it's route's perfectly fine for my standards, not like a major one is going to come out for awhile after the GSC remake..

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Reply #130 on: May 06, 2009, 09:21:26 PM
Lapras

Now I would totally love a Baby Lapras Pokemon myself. An evolved form would be Pokenice too. 

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PB: And then the God Eevee with all elements and that schools the crap out of Arceus?

WHY THE POKEFUCK NOT?  8D



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Reply #131 on: May 06, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
I think they need to cool it down on the Legendaries. There's around 35 of them now, which is slowly nearing the 10% area. Diamond and Pearl really overdid it with the amount they introduced.



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Reply #132 on: May 06, 2009, 09:27:24 PM
That's what I said too.  I really like them coming out with more and more 'Mon, but I think they really have enough Legendaries.




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Reply #133 on: May 06, 2009, 09:27:45 PM
+1 for the Eevee should have every kind of evolution. XD



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Reply #134 on: May 06, 2009, 09:28:16 PM
....Although I wouldn't object to a Baby Articuno...



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Reply #135 on: May 06, 2009, 09:29:22 PM
Zapdos is superior! *bricked*



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Reply #136 on: May 06, 2009, 10:05:48 PM
MEWTWO, TENTACRUEL, AERODACTYL! OMANYTE, SLOWBRO, PIDGEOT, ARBOK...

That's all folks!

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Reply #137 on: May 06, 2009, 10:55:57 PM
I mean really , Isnt it better to have fought and loss then to be a whimp and run?

No EV training going on here, so I'm sure someone who cares enough to do that garbage can easily dispatch my team... but oh my, how would they ever know if they're too cowardly and throw red flags because I don't play by their rules?

I guess most players just aren't as brave as you two. It does take supreme courage to play a video game, I guess.




What's wrong with more legendaries, by the way? I can't really see a problem with adding more. I guess it is annoying to have to keep resetting if you want one with good IVs, but that's mostly just a problem with IVs being bullshit.



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Reply #138 on: May 06, 2009, 11:04:16 PM
More starters and legendaries creates more movies~

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Reply #139 on: May 06, 2009, 11:29:36 PM
What's wrong with more legendaries, by the way? I can't really see a problem with adding more. I guess it is annoying to have to keep resetting if you want one with good IVs, but that's mostly just a problem with IVs being bullshit.

It's not the stats, just look at this:
-Elemental creatures? Check.
-Man made golems of legend? Check.
-Giant of legend? Check.
-Invincible man made creature? Check.
-Ruler of the skies? Check.
-Ruler of the seas? Check.
-Aliens? Check.
-Ancestor of every living creature (pokemon actually)? Check.
-Spirit of the forest? Check.
-A wish granting creature (Jirachi)? Check.
-Whatever Rayquaza is meant to be? Check.
-Creator of the oceans? Check.
-Creator of the lands? Check.
-Creator of emotions? Check.
-Creator of intelligence? Check.
-Creator of willpower? Check.
-Moon deity or similar (Cresselia)? Check.
-Volcano deity or similar (Heatran)? Check.
-Whatever Shaymin is? Check.
-The boogeyman (closest comparison I could think for Darkrai)? Check.
-Creator of time? Check.
-Creator of space? Check.
-The devil (that's the most similar thing to Giratina)? Check.
-God? Check.

Tell me what's left for them to use =/


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Reply #140 on: May 06, 2009, 11:47:32 PM
Oh, you think the creators of Pokemon can't come up with more of the things? They've made ridiculous amounts already, they can certainly manage more. [parasitic bomb], I can manage more.

Looking at your list, for example, I notice we've got two moon pokemon (Darkrai is totally moon based), but no sun one. So we start with a sun legendary. Going with the space theme, we'll go with a planet for its version mascot partner. Go along with the rule of three and put an asteroid legendary in there to fill out the trio. They may not be as impressive as a pokemon in control of time, but I suspect nobody's really going to complain.

That took me like 5 minutes to come up with, and while I wouldn't call it good, I'd still call it serviceable. A group of people who actually take some time can only do better.



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Reply #141 on: May 06, 2009, 11:54:02 PM
Oh, you think the creators of Pokemon can't come up with more of the things?

I don't doubt it, it's just that it's gotten ridiculous. Besides, every gen they keep making even more powerful legendaries (I'm not talking stat wise), and they already reached God. What can they do that surpasses a god?

Looking at your list, for example, I notice we've got two moon pokemon (Darkrai is totally moon based), but no sun one.

Darkrai puts you on an eternal sleep and haunts your dreams for eternity, I don't see how that relates to the moon. Besides, they're not exactly legendary, but we've already got Solrock and Lunatone.


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Reply #142 on: May 07, 2009, 12:08:52 AM
Well, he only shows up when it's a new moon, and he's based around shadows, like the new moon is. Look it made sense to me alright. :(

Solrock is just a funny shaped rock, it's not really that much like some spirit of fire. Moltres is basically a phoenix, and that didn't stop them making Ho-Oh, who's basically the same, a generation later.
And are you gonna complain if the next pokemon isn't some overdeity who can create universes or something? I'm not.



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Reply #143 on: May 07, 2009, 01:19:04 AM
Also, the designs of the Pokemon are getting a bit weird especially the legendaries where they look similar (and dare I say it) Digimon and it looks strange to me.

I don't doubt it, it's just that it's gotten ridiculous. Besides, every gen they keep making even more powerful legendaries (I'm not talking stat wise), and they already reached God. What can they do that surpasses a god?

I agree especially with the God part where the Pokemon are so powerful, they can probably create their own planet and what about Clefairy
the Pokemon that supposedly brought them to Earth? Why didn't it get Legendary status? I'll stick with Mewtwo, Zapdos, Motlres, Articuno, Dragonite and Pikachu as my team and I am set for life!



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Reply #144 on: May 07, 2009, 01:25:17 AM
I agree especially with the God part where the Pokemon are so powerful, they can probably create their own planet

They already did. Earth was literally created by Pokemon in the series.


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Reply #145 on: May 07, 2009, 01:28:16 AM
More starters and legendaries creates more movies~

True, but Lucario certainly proves as an example that breaks the rule.  He proved that a movie that could work just fine with just a nice new, shiny and non-Legendary Pokemon altogether, PLUS an already established Legendary (Mew). Lukey wasn't even a starter, and yet he was the 4th Generation Poke that we got to know the most.

So, I say we could certainly stand to do more in that vein. I agree with the overall notion that D/P/Pl over-did with Legendaries, and we could stand to see less the next go-round.



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Reply #146 on: May 07, 2009, 01:32:26 AM
Lucario

I loved that movie. ^^

It's also made sure that Lucario got into Brawl. =D

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Reply #147 on: May 07, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
I loved that movie. ^^

It's also made sure that Lucario got into Brawl. =D

I liked "Wave-Guiding Hero", too, at least in JP.  8D

And yeah, the fact that Lucario was the 4th Gen Poke that got the most amount of play guaranteed him a spot. Basically the same thing for how Mewtwo was able to get into Melee, and even how Nyasu/Meowth was "allegedly" planned for the original game.



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Reply #148 on: May 07, 2009, 03:11:18 AM
The one thing I'm just hoping for is that they redeem the loss of Pokemon Tower, albeit with a Poltergeist-esque scenario at the Radio Tower.

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Reply #149 on: May 07, 2009, 03:31:43 AM
Not really remake related, but does anyone want an Outrage Gible? Mostly Jolly. They're not really very interesting, especially to someone with Platinum, but I was gonna release them anyway, so...