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« Reply #175: March 04, 2011, 12:19:18 AM »

Been a while since I've been here  Sad. Lots of crazy stuff going on  Ugh , but beta wise some goodness has come up.  omg

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwnKwU1F3M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwnKwU1F3M</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGFIYwisiA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGFIYwisiA</a>


And of course:  Green

Some stuff of interest... maybe
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« Reply #177: March 04, 2011, 05:18:15 AM »

Digging that Stage Select tune.
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« Reply #178: March 04, 2011, 05:20:09 AM »

I tried running it on an emulator and it said "ERROR: unsupported MIPS CPU Instruction"

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« Reply #179: March 04, 2011, 05:21:22 AM »

I tried running it on an emulator and it said "ERROR: unsupported MIPS CPU Instruction"

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What Emulator? I used ePSXe and it worked fine.

That damn rabbit from Mario 64 screwing up your game, thats what.
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somedays i wish i could just jump into an empty space.
otherdays i feel like i should just sleep
and finally, most of the time i just want to feel like i'm actually alive.

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« Reply #180: March 04, 2011, 05:30:44 AM »

I use AdriPSX  o3o

EDIT: Nevermind, I got epsxe and it works now.
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...When Larry the reploid accountant goes maverick of his own accord, he's certainly formidable during tax season, but he isn't going to provide X the challenge needed to make him grow as a warrior and reach his potential.

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« Reply #181: March 05, 2011, 05:50:47 AM »

Now this is some awesome stuff. I love looks into the development of a project, especially of such a high quality title. Thank you for sharing this!
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« Reply #182: March 05, 2011, 08:55:40 AM »

I really wonder what that unused tune was supposed to be for. I mean, both Tenguman and Clownman's stages use it.
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« Reply #183: March 05, 2011, 05:57:02 PM »







I saw those too. I unfortunately made the mistake as passing them off for random junk. I was changing multiple things at once and thus messed up the graphics and backgrounds to the opening stage and the ice stage. So when I saw those other stages, I thought it was due to the game showing random crap because of my tinkering. I'm glad you pointed it out though as I probably wouldn't have gone back to them. Thanks!  Thumbs Up It would have been sweet if those stages were more complete.  Dream Works


I really wonder what that unused tune was supposed to be for. I mean, both Tenguman and Clownman's stages use it.

That's just there as a place holder. Capcom does this a lot as I've seen similar stuff in unfinished builds of their other games.
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« Reply #184: March 05, 2011, 06:48:25 PM »


I saw those too. I unfortunately made the mistake as passing them off for random junk. I was changing multiple things at once and thus messed up the graphics and backgrounds to the opening stage and the ice stage. So when I saw those other stages, I thought it was due to the game showing random crap because of my tinkering. I'm glad you pointed it out though as I probably wouldn't have gone back to them. Thanks!  Thumbs Up It would have been sweet if those stages were more complete.  Dream Works


That's just there as a place holder. Capcom does this a lot as I've seen similar stuff in unfinished builds of their other games.

Henger83 said the same thing.

Maybe you guys are twins or something.

PS: http://www.mediafire.com/?yctzb5yvf0lu2nk
Non-PSF copy of the music in case somebody has some weird aversion to playing PSFs.
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« Reply #185: March 05, 2011, 07:23:25 PM »

Henger83 said the same thing.

Maybe you guys are twins or something.


That IS me  Tongue  Wink
Oh, and that's how I heard the unused track I mentioned about in the video. That should have told me there were more stages  Embarrassed

I'd actually like to change my youtube name. I've heard it's possible (unofficially) but I'm not sure.  Undecided Anyone know of a way?



Anyone want to pitch in to buy any of the following betas?  Huh

NES-
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Mega Man 4
Mega Man 5

SNES-
Mega Man 7
Mega Man Soccer (early, no gameplay)
Rockman X3 (early version, says Sample on the title screen)

Game Gear-
Mega Man

Game Boy
Rockman World (in English with NOA info on title screen)
Mega Man II
Mega Man III
Mega Man V

GBA-
Mega Man Battle Network 2 (debug version)


I believe it's $3000 for all of them (that is a lot) or maybe just pitch in to get the  Rockman X3 sample cart. Doesn't matter to me who gets to keep the cart cuz I'm not going to buy another Super Famicom/Nintendo to play it.  The rom will suffice for me.  Laughing Too bad there's no detail next to the other betas to note differences.  Sad
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« Reply #186: March 05, 2011, 07:33:15 PM »

Like this?
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« Reply #187: March 05, 2011, 09:07:38 PM »

Like this?

You're so mean.
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« Reply #188: March 07, 2011, 01:03:50 PM »

I... actually didn't mean to be.
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« Reply #189: March 07, 2011, 04:09:19 PM »

I know.

I think he meant he wanted to change his Youtube account name.
And then you changed his name here to the name he doesn't like.

I thought it was kinda funny.
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« Reply #190: March 08, 2011, 12:41:42 AM »

Like this?


Ack!....   omg
What have you done to me? *Thunder Carnivals Acid* (the tornado hold won't help you now.) Tongue
Mah boi, a youtube account name change is what all true Rockman fans strive for.   Wiggle


But yeah, xnamkcor is right. If only youtube was that easy  Ugh
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« Reply #191: March 10, 2011, 02:38:01 PM »


That IS me  Tongue  Wink
Oh, and that's how I heard the unused track I mentioned about in the video. That should have told me there were more stages  Embarrassed

I'd actually like to change my youtube name. I've heard it's possible (unofficially) but I'm not sure.  Undecided Anyone know of a way?



Anyone want to pitch in to buy any of the following betas?  Huh

NES-
Mega Man 2
Mega Man 3
Mega Man 4
Mega Man 5

SNES-
Mega Man 7
Mega Man Soccer (early, no gameplay)
Rockman X3 (early version, says Sample on the title screen)

Game Gear-
Mega Man

Game Boy
Rockman World (in English with NOA info on title screen)
Mega Man II
Mega Man III
Mega Man V

GBA-
Mega Man Battle Network 2 (debug version)


I believe it's $3000 for all of them (that is a lot) or maybe just pitch in to get the  Rockman X3 sample cart. Doesn't matter to me who gets to keep the cart cuz I'm not going to buy another Super Famicom/Nintendo to play it.  The rom will suffice for me.  Laughing Too bad there's no detail next to the other betas to note differences.  Sad

I know who you're talking about with these protos, he's the one I got the X6 Proto from. Nobody would be getting any carts (unless he changed his mind). He just wants the money to dump and release them.
Did he really come down to $3000 to release them all? Originally he had these prices listed:

NES
Mega Man 2 - $850
Mega Man 3 - $700
Mega Man 4 - $750
Mega Man 5 - $750

SNES
Mega Man 7 - $750
Mega Man Soccer (early, no gameplay) - $250
Rockman X3 (early version, says Sample on the title screen) - $1000

Game Gear
Mega Man - $750

Game Boy
Rockman World (in English with NOA info on title screen) - $750
Mega Man II - $750
Mega Man III - ? -wasn't on his 2009 list
Mega Man V - ? -wasn't on his 2009 list

GBA
Mega Man Battle Network 2 (debug version) - $400

For all of that it came to nearly $8000. If he has come down that much I'd definitely be more interested in working with a fundraiser to get them dumped. Even if we didn't reach a goal of $3000 I'm sure we could get some of them dumped.
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« Reply #192: March 10, 2011, 07:31:29 PM »

Wow just for dumping them? Hoarders are ridiculous. When Degamer (Henger83 whatever) brought it up I thought some one was selling proto carts and I would love to participate in buying proto carts. But damn those prices skaarg listed for dumping them are just plain ridiculous. Hoarders are freaking ridiculous especially when it comes to beta/protos.
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« Reply #193: March 10, 2011, 08:00:18 PM »

Wow just for dumping them? Hoarders are ridiculous. When Degamer (Henger83 whatever) brought it up I thought some one was selling proto carts and I would love to participate in buying proto carts. But damn those prices skaarg listed for dumping them are just plain ridiculous. Hoarders are freaking ridiculous especially when it comes to beta/protos.

It makes sense though. Protoyypes are rare, because people DON'T have them. If they were to be dumped and distributed, their value would plummet and no one would care to own them. It's really a smart move, because the demand will be high enough eventually. Until then hes enjoying it and you aren't so no skin off his ass.
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« Reply #194: March 10, 2011, 08:11:35 PM »

I doubt the value would plummet. Just because most people willing to pay those high prices for rare games/protos want the originals. Most people that just use roms or are happy with repros don't think to them selves that they are going to pay $200+ for a proto. Although I do agree that he can probably care less if we ever end up with it. I hope he's at least made a personal backup for himself since I've heard plenty of stories from hoarders that refused to dump their disc/cart only to lose it or have it ruined/worn out somehow and become totally useless. I guess the thing is for me is when I seek out stuff like this I like to share it for all to enjoy and like finding others that do the same.

EDIT: Also I still don't know where this guys post thread is so I don't want to be quick to judge him I'm just going off of what skaarg said.
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« Reply #195: March 10, 2011, 08:40:30 PM »

From my experience with DreamTR he is very nice and many people say he typically has fair prices. Which is definitely true for his disc based games. The X6 proto was bought for only $50, which I feel if anyone had checked the contents, it probably would have gone for more. I think cartridge games in general tend to be higher due to the fact there is a bit more work into preserving them and then the cost of dumping them is higher compared to a CD that can be popped into any computer.

As for the thing on hoarders, I used to hate them, but then I changed my mind a few years ago. The bottom line is nobody deserves the data, and technically nobody should have it. If something gets released I say be grateful for that. If a person pays money for (usually) stolen property they can do whatever they want with it.
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« Reply #196: March 10, 2011, 08:50:25 PM »

Is there a thread or something of his you can link me too?

I guess i just get annoyed since many of these people would consider them selves hard core collectors that would be appalled at things like downloading roms but then find no qualms with charging money for a proto dump. Note I don't know anything about DreamTR specifically so I'm not trying to bag on him I just know that many people seem to have a double standard when it comes to these things.

EDIT: Found this (Google is my friend) http://forums.hidden-palace.org/viewtopic.php?t=2815&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=fb31bcc2ced78247e664336b87337582

It sounds like from what I can tell Drx is offering to buy the carts and dump them. I imagine that it would be possible to deal with DreamTR directly and purchase them. Probably a bit out of my price range though judging from the prices on drx's thread.
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« Reply #197: March 12, 2011, 05:18:43 AM »

I know who you're talking about with these protos, he's the one I got the X6 Proto from. Nobody would be getting any carts (unless he changed his mind). He just wants the money to dump and release them.
Did he really come down to $3000 to release them all? Originally he had these prices listed:

I talked to him several times and he said specifically it was for the carts, not ROM images (which is what I actually wanted as I sold my NES, SNES, Game Gear along time ago, still have a GBA though) And yep, $3000 for all of them. He also said that it was this much because they were not cheap for him to acquire.



For all of that it came to nearly $8000. If he has come down that much I'd definitely be more interested in working with a fundraiser to get them dumped. Even if we didn't reach a goal of $3000 I'm sure we could get some of them dumped.

I'm all for it.  Thumbs Up
It would be so easy if each RM/MM fan donated one dollar. Nobody pockets would take a hit that way. One can wish right?  Dream Works  After all, there are a ton of us.  Tongue



Wow just for dumping them? Hoarders are ridiculous. When Degamer (Henger83 whatever) brought it up I thought some one was selling proto carts and I would love to participate in buying proto carts.

I'm not to fond of hoarders either.  Angry


When Degamer (Henger83 whatever) brought it up

Hey, I don't want the name change. Change it back to DeGamer please.  Tongue




It makes sense though. Protoyypes are rare, because people DON'T have them. If they were to be dumped and distributed, their value would plummet and no one would care to own them. It's really a smart move, because the demand will be high enough eventually. Until then hes enjoying it and you aren't so no skin off his ass.

The problem with prototypes/betas is the person who has them. Sometimes they do pay to get them and some times not. And if they are willing to share, it's usually for a price or a trade (This was the reason for me not getting them Rockman World prototype for the GB). Look at the Rockman 8 beta. The person who had it paid nothing for it and I asked him for a copy and looked what happened  Green



I doubt the value would plummet. Just because most people willing to pay those high prices for rare games/protos want the originals. Most people that just use roms or are happy with repros don't think to them selves that they are going to pay $200+ for a proto.

The value would only still be there for collectors wanting originals. And yeah most casual gamers could careless about betas/prototypes. Sometimes people pay money just for bragging. Look at the gold cart of Rockman 4, they're expensive, bot easy to come by and there's only a few of them ever made, but the game content is the same as the final. Why pay so much money for a different casing?


Although I do agree that he can probably care less if we ever end up with it. I hope he's at least made a personal backup for himself since I've heard plenty of stories from hoarders that refused to dump their disc/cart only to lose it or have it ruined/worn out somehow and become totally useless.

Some people don't care if others get it or not. Then there's people who do have such things and don't want anyone to have it despite knowing that many others would want it. I knew a person that had a very rare Resident Evil protoype only to lose it because he didn't make a back up.  Face Palm


I guess the thing is for me is when I seek out stuff like this I like to share it for all to enjoy and like finding others that do the same.

Same here  Grin



From my experience with DreamTR he is very nice and many people say he typically has fair prices. Which is definitely true for his disc based games. The X6 proto was bought for only $50, which I feel if anyone had checked the contents, it probably would have gone for more. I think cartridge games in general tend to be higher due to the fact there is a bit more work into preserving them and then the cost of dumping them is higher compared to a CD that can be popped into any computer.

I've also heard the same. Damn $50 for X6? I would have bought that right away.  ANd yeah, that's the unfortunate part about carts (epecially for older systems) which is why I wanted to buy the ROM images initially instead as I wouldn't have any way to dump them (except for GBA) and then I'd be the only one to have the game and that would make me the hoarder.  Tongue



As for the thing on hoarders, I used to hate them, but then I changed my mind a few years ago. The bottom line is nobody deserves the data, and technically nobody should have it. If something gets released I say be grateful for that. If a person pays money for (usually) stolen property they can do whatever they want with it.


Well, you're absolutely right about not supposed to be having them, but if I can buy them then why not?
As for hoarders, it really depends on the person. Some people hoard stuff so that it will have more value among collectors, which I can understand. Some other hoard stuff JUST BECAUSE they know other people want it and they don't want those people to have it (I guess it gives them a sense of control) and they like watching people reactions in not being able to obtain what they have. And some hoard for attention. Those last two are  Steamy
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« Reply #198: April 17, 2011, 05:40:41 AM »

EDIT: Sorry.

It's best if you click here for the proper post for all the details.

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« Reply #199: April 17, 2011, 05:28:50 PM »

Ishida Akira as Juno laughing like a maniac at the GAME OVER screen?
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BEAM ME UP THAT SAMPLE HERE, SCOTTY! I SO WANT TO HAVE IT!
Could you do that, please? I could extract them alone, but then finding this would be a nightmare. D :

Awesome stuff, man. I think I once found some of those Legends ones when I was just starting my adventure into extracting stuff from games, namely the GEEMU OVAA from servbots. Can't remember if anything else.

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