I know who you're talking about with these protos, he's the one I got the X6 Proto from. Nobody would be getting any carts (unless he changed his mind). He just wants the money to dump and release them.
Did he really come down to $3000 to release them all? Originally he had these prices listed:
I talked to him several times and he said specifically it was for the carts, not ROM images
(which is what I actually wanted as I sold my NES, SNES, Game Gear along time ago, still have a GBA though) And yep, $3000 for all of them. He also said that it was this much because they were not cheap for him to acquire.
For all of that it came to nearly $8000. If he has come down that much I'd definitely be more interested in working with a fundraiser to get them dumped. Even if we didn't reach a goal of $3000 I'm sure we could get some of them dumped.
I'm all for it.
It would be so easy if each RM/MM fan donated one dollar. Nobody pockets would take a hit that way. One can wish right?
After all, there are a ton of us.
Wow just for dumping them? Hoarders are ridiculous. When Degamer (Henger83 whatever) brought it up I thought some one was selling proto carts and I would love to participate in buying proto carts.
I'm not to fond of hoarders either.
When Degamer (Henger83 whatever) brought it up
Hey, I don't want the name change. Change it back to DeGamer please.
It makes sense though. Protoyypes are rare, because people DON'T have them. If they were to be dumped and distributed, their value would plummet and no one would care to own them. It's really a smart move, because the demand will be high enough eventually. Until then hes enjoying it and you aren't so no skin off his ass.
The problem with prototypes/betas is the person who has them. Sometimes they do pay to get them and some times not. And if they are willing to share, it's usually for a price or a trade (This was the reason for me not getting them Rockman World prototype for the GB). Look at the Rockman 8 beta. The person who had it paid nothing for it and I asked him for a copy and looked what happened
I doubt the value would plummet. Just because most people willing to pay those high prices for rare games/protos want the originals. Most people that just use roms or are happy with repros don't think to them selves that they are going to pay $200+ for a proto.
The value would only still be there for collectors wanting originals. And yeah most casual gamers could careless about betas/prototypes. Sometimes people pay money just for bragging. Look at the gold cart of Rockman 4, they're expensive, bot easy to come by and there's only a few of them ever made, but the game content is the same as the final. Why pay so much money for a different casing?
Although I do agree that he can probably care less if we ever end up with it. I hope he's at least made a personal backup for himself since I've heard plenty of stories from hoarders that refused to dump their disc/cart only to lose it or have it ruined/worn out somehow and become totally useless.
Some people don't care if others get it or not. Then there's people who do have such things and don't want anyone to have it despite knowing that many others would want it. I knew a person that had a very rare Resident Evil protoype only to lose it because he didn't make a back up.
I guess the thing is for me is when I seek out stuff like this I like to share it for all to enjoy and like finding others that do the same.
From my experience with DreamTR he is very nice and many people say he typically has fair prices. Which is definitely true for his disc based games. The X6 proto was bought for only $50, which I feel if anyone had checked the contents, it probably would have gone for more. I think cartridge games in general tend to be higher due to the fact there is a bit more work into preserving them and then the cost of dumping them is higher compared to a CD that can be popped into any computer.
I've also heard the same. Damn $50 for X6? I would have bought that right away. ANd yeah, that's the unfortunate part about carts (epecially for older systems) which is why I wanted to buy the ROM images initially instead as I wouldn't have any way to dump them (except for GBA) and then I'd be the only one to have the game and that would make me the hoarder.
As for the thing on hoarders, I used to hate them, but then I changed my mind a few years ago. The bottom line is nobody deserves the data, and technically nobody should have it. If something gets released I say be grateful for that. If a person pays money for (usually) stolen property they can do whatever they want with it.
Well, you're absolutely right about not supposed to be having them, but if I can buy them then why not?
As for hoarders, it really depends on the person
. Some people hoard stuff so that it will have more value among collectors, which I can understand. Some other hoard stuff JUST BECAUSE
they know other people want it and they don't want those people to have it (I guess it gives them a sense of control) and they like watching people reactions in not being able to obtain what they have. And some hoard for attention. Those last two are