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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 08:27:55 AM »

But now they're not even canon with the new canon.  So, things could be changed on a whim.  We now have two different canons.  It's like old EU is Earth Prime and new EU is Earth Lucas, and Infinities is Earth Wat.   It's going to be a hellish, confusing mess.

And then there's the possibility that Disney will actually delay establishing a solid canon, with all the old EU up in the air.  We also can't be sure how things will be referenced.  Mara Jade could be name-dropped, but her actual character left vague.  Is she a former Emperor's Hand?  Is she a waitress?

What about Kyle Katarn?  Most Awesome McBadass Powerfist Jedi ever, or a gas station attendant?

Grand Admiral Thrawn.  A Chiss Grand Admiral who is incredibly arrogant and a master tactician?   Or some homeless guy with schizophrenia?

Granted, they weren't g-canon, but they were still canon, something that I further confirmed during my visit to Lucasfilm.  Internally, the EU was still considered canon, despite the retcons needed from TCW.  Leland Chee's entire job was to oversee the entire canon, including the EU.  I've seen his Holocron, I've seen the archives, I've seen stuff I've NEVER seen that was still considered to be in canon.

All of that right now is in limbo.  All of it.

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 08:10:10 AM »

The ice cream didn't help.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 08:06:00 AM »

Grand Admiral Jello said it pretty well what we're losing.

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 07:32:23 AM »

I think I should have some ice cream.  Ice cream makes things better.

*eats a Vanilluxe*

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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 07:05:13 AM »

In theory, it's easy.  In practice, it's a system that will need to be discussed, finalized, confirmed with the Story Group, and implemented in the countless of articles across Wookieepedia, with not just a new icon, a new category, and a new era, but also a segment in the Behind The Scenes section, plus changes made to Appearances lists, deciding which sourcebooks are still canon, and excising non-canon bits in general subject articles to reflect this new change.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:48:14 AM »

What is this and should I even know...

A reread of The Glove of Darth Vader

That should suffice.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:41:31 AM »

Maul returning from the dead is still canon, as it happened in TCW. 

Fett's fate is up in the air, but he's a cash cow, so he's most likely still alive.

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:35:17 AM »

We had Cathar...

until Schrödinger came along.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:31:21 AM »

As a chronicler of that non-canon canon, it makes things a big pain in the [tornado fang]ing ass now.

Though, I will admit that there's a lot of post-RotJ stuff I didn't like, particularly from the NJO era.  Good riddance to the Yuuzhan Vong. 

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:27:37 AM »

Yeah, they really should have solidified their stance a bit more before saying anything. I get the impression that anything Post-Jedi is now an alternate reality (which, let's face it, is probably for the best for the majority of things) but anything during or before the movies is a big question mark.

As explained in the thread, post-RotJ EU is pretty much non-canon (or is it?), with the movies and TCW still canon, including (near as I can tell) the EU from those eras (such as SotE, which occupies a unique place as being G-canon EU).  However, TOR is no longer canon due to events in FotJ.

So, it's canon.  But it's not.  But it is.  But it's not.  But it is until they say it's not.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney/Lucasfilm, EpVII coming Dec. 2015, post-RotJ EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:23:01 AM »

Pretty much.  New EU begins with Rebels and the ST.  The old EU is available to derive stuff from, so it's canon, but it's no longer in continuity with the new EU, which is the new canon.

Hence Schrödinger's Canon.

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 06:20:09 AM »

Now I'm trying to explain Schrödinger's Canon, using Fett as an example.  In Schrödinger's Canon, Fett is both dead and alive until we hear otherwise.  He is not "mostly dead," as that implies the state of being dead, which in Schrödinger's Canon, he's in, but not in.  Fett occupies a state that is both states.

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 05:32:03 AM »

Me too!

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 26, 2014, 05:23:40 AM »

I'm so glad family drama has kept me away from being active on the Wook for a while as holy [tornado fang] it exploded today, along with the rest of SW fandom. 

What a lousy start to the weekend.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney has bought LucasFilm (Episode VII Planned), Now in talks to buy Hasbro..

« on: April 26, 2014, 03:04:14 AM »

Further discussion on TFN and tweets from Jennifer Heddle reveal that we barely know what's going on and Lucasfilm doesn't know what's going on.

Schrödinger's canon is off to a great start! 

And yes, that is the official term on TFN.  Best thing to come out of an announcement that they're backpedaling on while trying to push forward at the same time.

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Entertainment / Re: Disney has bought LucasFilm (Episode VII Planned), Now in talks to buy Hasbro..

« on: April 26, 2014, 02:10:47 AM »

Yeah.  I really don't want a Schrödinger's canon.

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Entertainment / Post-RotJ EU now rebranded as Legends, old EU non-canon

« on: April 26, 2014, 01:37:50 AM »

And boom goes the dynamite.

While I've been expecting it since the initial announcement of the Sequel Trilogy, it's still disheartening.  The X-Wing series?  Non-canon.  Thrawn Trilogy?  Non-canon.  Mara Jade?  Non-canon.  In fact, Disney now prohibits EU characters (such as Thrawn and Mara) from participating in the motorcade at their Star Wars Weekends.

Wookieepedia will become a HUGE mess as we sort this out.

Urrrgh...

On the bright side, though, Chewie lives again!

QuickEdit: Reading over the discussion on TFN regarding this announcement, Lucasfilm is backpedaling on the initial announcement.

So, according to the Story Group, the old EU is canon, but at the same time it's not canon, but it is until they say it's not.

MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MINDS

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Off The Wall / Re: Post Pictures Of Yourself

« on: April 26, 2014, 01:19:37 AM »

Ohshi- *Hypnosis bounces off of Mirror Shades and hypnotizes self* @-@

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 25, 2014, 11:40:27 PM »

Bleh, rain, rain, rain.  So much for going out for a walk.  I think I'll curl up with Mabel.

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Off The Wall / Re: "What's Upsetting You Right Now?"

« on: April 25, 2014, 10:25:50 PM »

Finding out about it through text, though.  It's so impersonal.  I'm sorry you had to find out that way.

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Forum Games / Re: Add a caption to the previous poster's avatar, ROUND TWO!

« on: April 25, 2014, 10:12:25 PM »

...Are they having a party in there?

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.

« on: April 25, 2014, 09:55:55 PM »

Amy's investigating a case in a bad part of town, where the sun never shines, where brutality is a way of life, and where... where people aren't really very nice at all.  Really.

Now I'm picturing Sonic noir.  Yeah, they did Spin City, but it can still be redone and grittier.

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 25, 2014, 09:30:22 PM »

Looks like it's going to rain.

Shame, as I was planning to wear my Hypno hoodie. 

Shame, as I was going to walk down to the store for a couple things.

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Off The Wall / Re: "What's Upsetting You Right Now?"

« on: April 25, 2014, 09:26:48 PM »

*hugs Clefant*

I'm sorry...

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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth

« on: April 25, 2014, 06:43:55 AM »

Oh, the other day when picking up salmon oil for Mabel, I got to hold a baby ball python.  So cute.