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Gaming / Re: Super Smash Bros. Thread
« on: June 11, 2014, 10:04:03 PM »
Still waiting for Mewtwo. 8|
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 09:48:42 PM »
Indeed, and I'm willing to forgive him since he turned his opinions around.
Also, the comics correlation was originally brought up as an example of a media scapegoat, as it's the best example out there. I'm hoping that Slendy and creepypasta don't become the next media scapegoat. We don't need another Dr. Fredric Wertham.
Just an aside, Wertham's "cameo" in JLU with his "The Innocent Seduced" book in a segment about a media pontiff railing against the Justice League was cute and gave me a good chuckle.
Also, the comics correlation was originally brought up as an example of a media scapegoat, as it's the best example out there. I'm hoping that Slendy and creepypasta don't become the next media scapegoat. We don't need another Dr. Fredric Wertham.
Just an aside, Wertham's "cameo" in JLU with his "The Innocent Seduced" book in a segment about a media pontiff railing against the Justice League was cute and gave me a good chuckle.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 09:40:51 PM »
He did later become an advocate for the comics industry in the 70s.
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General / Re: Change my nickname, please
« on: June 11, 2014, 09:39:51 PM »Can anyone change my name to Marisa Kirisame?
Changed, but as Reaperoid said, you seem to want a name change after every hiatus. Granted, Randolph Carter gets his changed every month, but he adds a theme to it.
Basically, if you're going to ask for a new name every time you come back, may as well make a game out of it. I have no idea why all the constant name changes that coincide with activity.
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 09:32:29 PM »Been interested with Lovecraftian Lore for a very long time, and I have yet to read any of the books. I'm not sure which title should I start first....any ideas?
You can pretty much read them in any order. I suggest The Dunwich Horror. It's written as more of a serial, and is a bit easier to read than some of the other stories. It will help get you used to the prose.
After that, I suggest The Colour Out of Space. That one is good and creepy and one of my favorites after The Dunwich Horror.
Dagon is a good one, but it can be a challenging read. It's short, though.
Call of Cthulhu is a classic. Definitely read that.
Pickman's Model was great, so add that one to your list. The Thing on the Doorstep was a good one. Cool Air and Herbert West: Reanimator are good non-Eldritch stories, along with The Beast in the Cave (written when Lovecraft was twelve or so).
That should get you started. I've yet to read The Haunter of the Dark, but it's a must for any Lovecraft reading list, same with At the Mountains of Madness. Shadow Over Innsmouth was okay, but it's not one of my favorites.
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 10:10:05 AM »
I'm planning to take him through Victory Road where Gravelers attack in hordes and fall from the ceiling. If he can handle that, I think he'll be okay.
Aside from the nightmares.
Aside from the nightmares.
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 10:00:04 AM »
I got my Noibat, and Hypno dealt with Gravelers. They exploded in his face. He's hiding behind the couch, huddled in a corner and there's a storm coming, so he's going to be freaking out. Time to get his meds...
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 08:20:35 AM »Holy crap Phi got promoted!
I promoted him as he's an active mod and most of the other global mods are inactive, and Vixy helped fix the settings.
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 07:41:25 AM »
Time to drag poor PTSD-wrought Hypno to Terminus Cave. I want a Noibat. I'll be merciful and use a Max Repel and remind him that he'd better be thankful for being boxed when I took Mewtwo out to Victory Road to do some grunt work.
The therapy bills aren't covered by Trainer's Insurance.
The therapy bills aren't covered by Trainer's Insurance.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 07:11:47 AM »
According to the article, the research was actually there, at least some of it. For the purposes of the book, case studies were changed and divided to be different people. I can actually see why he would do this, too. It's like changing names, and some details, which happens all the time.
The thing is, if someone's case history made it into a book and their friends and associates could tell that it was them, then it could ruin their reputation and they would have a viable position to sue for slander. For books like this, omitting certain details and modifying case studies helps to prevent such things from occurring.
You'd be surprised just how many professionals do this. This isn't the first I've heard about such accusations, nor is Wertham the first to be on the receiving end.
Psychiatrists and psychologists operate under HIPPA, and they need to maintain patient confidentiality. Patients are often used in medical journals and related texts, but their names are omitted. For the purposes of a mass-market text, details concerning a patient's case would be omitted, cases would be changed, etc. Nowadays texts will come with a notice explaining this, but back then, I don't think it was required, as what Wertham was discussing was a relatively new field.
The thing is, if someone's case history made it into a book and their friends and associates could tell that it was them, then it could ruin their reputation and they would have a viable position to sue for slander. For books like this, omitting certain details and modifying case studies helps to prevent such things from occurring.
You'd be surprised just how many professionals do this. This isn't the first I've heard about such accusations, nor is Wertham the first to be on the receiving end.
Psychiatrists and psychologists operate under HIPPA, and they need to maintain patient confidentiality. Patients are often used in medical journals and related texts, but their names are omitted. For the purposes of a mass-market text, details concerning a patient's case would be omitted, cases would be changed, etc. Nowadays texts will come with a notice explaining this, but back then, I don't think it was required, as what Wertham was discussing was a relatively new field.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 06:54:03 AM »
The omission of details of the kids' lives we knew about. We didn't get to the Batman chapter yet, hence why I neglected to mention it. I was covering the crime and horror comics, which I have read. In the first few chapters, he discusses the "injury to the eye motif" which were quite prevalent in a number of EC Comics that I had read.
The research into the comics was what I was discussing, not the cases. For the most part, from what I've read in the book and could compare to the comics mentioned that I've also read, the research was for the most part correct.
Ringman and I did discuss the case studies presented, as they were quite fragmented. But we still gave credit where credit was due, as the one place he did his research was in the comics.
This was my argument; Wertham researched the media. Many media watchdog groups do not do this and their claims as to what certain things contain are wildly inconsistent with the claims by people who actively consume the media that they are targeting.
The research into the comics was what I was discussing, not the cases. For the most part, from what I've read in the book and could compare to the comics mentioned that I've also read, the research was for the most part correct.
Ringman and I did discuss the case studies presented, as they were quite fragmented. But we still gave credit where credit was due, as the one place he did his research was in the comics.
This was my argument; Wertham researched the media. Many media watchdog groups do not do this and their claims as to what certain things contain are wildly inconsistent with the claims by people who actively consume the media that they are targeting.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 06:15:08 AM »Interesting, that book sounds interesting. At least he did in-depth research to support his findings and such.
It's been reprinted, so you can get it on Amazon at a decent price. I started reading it because it came in a comics torrent. It's interesting, particularly if you're a comic historian, but it can be a challenge to read. The prose is that of a textbook.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 06:03:31 AM »
The horror genre (that includes creepypasta, as that's a subgenre of horror and more akin to urban legends) itself is not bad. Horror stories have existed since Man could weave a tale by firelight. Horror is not everyone's cup of tea, yes, but it in and of itself is not bad and does not spawn serial killers—unless they're fictional.
This is gearing up to become just another witch hunt. Back in the day, comics were to blame. It was a relatively new media that adults at the time were not very knowledgeable of. Thus, you had stories of kids jumping out of windows, because they thought they could fly like Superman. You had stories of kids committing violent crimes because they read EC Comics' fare like Crime SuspenStories, Weird Science, and The Vault of Horror. Dr. Fredric Wertham became a household name with his book analyzing this supposed crime-comic correlation, Seduction of the Innocent.
Flash-forward to the early 90s. Doom has just hit PCs. It's a gory demonic mess that's enjoyed by young and old. Then comes the Columbine school shooting and the perpetrators had made Doom level mods (which weren't that great, by the way. They're still available to play, and they're poorly-done). Suddenly, Doom is bad.
Early-Naughties rolls around. You suddenly start seeing cases which blame Grand Theft Auto. GTA and similar games are now the target of parental watchdog groups everywhere. Do you know what your kids are playing?
Slenderman and creepypasta is just next in line to be the next media scapegoat, mainly because once again, parents are not providing proper guidance, are not knowledgeable about the material, and are quick to pin the blame onto something that they don't understand.
For the record, Dr. Wertham became an advocate for the comic industry in the 70s, and having read part of his book, he actually researched comics. Whether or not you agree wi his arguments, you could see the education and research behind his conclusions.
This is gearing up to become just another witch hunt. Back in the day, comics were to blame. It was a relatively new media that adults at the time were not very knowledgeable of. Thus, you had stories of kids jumping out of windows, because they thought they could fly like Superman. You had stories of kids committing violent crimes because they read EC Comics' fare like Crime SuspenStories, Weird Science, and The Vault of Horror. Dr. Fredric Wertham became a household name with his book analyzing this supposed crime-comic correlation, Seduction of the Innocent.
Flash-forward to the early 90s. Doom has just hit PCs. It's a gory demonic mess that's enjoyed by young and old. Then comes the Columbine school shooting and the perpetrators had made Doom level mods (which weren't that great, by the way. They're still available to play, and they're poorly-done). Suddenly, Doom is bad.
Early-Naughties rolls around. You suddenly start seeing cases which blame Grand Theft Auto. GTA and similar games are now the target of parental watchdog groups everywhere. Do you know what your kids are playing?
Slenderman and creepypasta is just next in line to be the next media scapegoat, mainly because once again, parents are not providing proper guidance, are not knowledgeable about the material, and are quick to pin the blame onto something that they don't understand.
For the record, Dr. Wertham became an advocate for the comic industry in the 70s, and having read part of his book, he actually researched comics. Whether or not you agree wi his arguments, you could see the education and research behind his conclusions.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 05:22:51 AM »
Parents should provide proper guidance to their children and be mindful of the media their children are exposed to. It comes down to exercising common sense.
If your kid sees something that you wouldn't let them otherwise see, discuss it with them. Turn it into a learning experience.
When Ringman and I were really young (two and four, respectively), we were taken to the drive-in for a double-feature. However, the projectionist ran the horror movie first. So, our first movie-going experience was Return to the Night of the Living Dead. Our folks helped ease the shock of horrific imagery by pointing out the obviously fake blood and the goofy faces of the zombies.
We're horror buffs, but we didn't go on killing sprees. We like to read and even write horror, but we won't entertain the idea of actually killing someone. Hell, I have documented mental health issues, but I'm not completely out of my gourd!
The media doesn't make people bad. It's the lack of guidance from others that contributes to potentially harmful behavior/decisions.
If your kid sees something that you wouldn't let them otherwise see, discuss it with them. Turn it into a learning experience.
When Ringman and I were really young (two and four, respectively), we were taken to the drive-in for a double-feature. However, the projectionist ran the horror movie first. So, our first movie-going experience was Return to the Night of the Living Dead. Our folks helped ease the shock of horrific imagery by pointing out the obviously fake blood and the goofy faces of the zombies.
We're horror buffs, but we didn't go on killing sprees. We like to read and even write horror, but we won't entertain the idea of actually killing someone. Hell, I have documented mental health issues, but I'm not completely out of my gourd!
The media doesn't make people bad. It's the lack of guidance from others that contributes to potentially harmful behavior/decisions.
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Entertainment / Re: Two Girls Stab Another Girl to Appease Slenderman
« on: June 11, 2014, 04:57:44 AM »
Mental problems don't necessarily mean that the person is incapable of taking care of themselves. Many people with schizophrenia live independently.
Also, the term "mental issues" is very vague, as it wasn't alluded to what kind of mental issues. Other articles mention that she "was not herself" and has no recollection of the incident. It may have occurred during a dissociative fugue state, which would indicate a dissociative disorder.
Other details reveal dark writings on the topic of killing, but Slenderman, while mentioned, is just that; mentioned. The girl made a world in Minecraft for Slendy (better hunt down the Minecraft players...
), and mentioned him in her writings, but as for Slendy being a direct cause, it's unfounded. It's circumstantial.
If this girl has documented mental health issues, then steps should have been taken to get her the proper care. Obviously, since she has long been plagued by this, they haven't.
Also, the term "mental issues" is very vague, as it wasn't alluded to what kind of mental issues. Other articles mention that she "was not herself" and has no recollection of the incident. It may have occurred during a dissociative fugue state, which would indicate a dissociative disorder.
Other details reveal dark writings on the topic of killing, but Slenderman, while mentioned, is just that; mentioned. The girl made a world in Minecraft for Slendy (better hunt down the Minecraft players...
), and mentioned him in her writings, but as for Slendy being a direct cause, it's unfounded. It's circumstantial.If this girl has documented mental health issues, then steps should have been taken to get her the proper care. Obviously, since she has long been plagued by this, they haven't.
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Entertainment / Another Slenderman Stabbing- Has the witch hunt begun?
« on: June 11, 2014, 04:20:53 AM »
Ohio Stabbing Linked to Slenderman
The relation to Slenderman in this case is tenuous at best. It's looking like a witch hunt to me. The girl in this case has documented mental health issues, which should be the primary focus of the investigation. Slendy himself is extraneous.
The relation to Slenderman in this case is tenuous at best. It's looking like a witch hunt to me. The girl in this case has documented mental health issues, which should be the primary focus of the investigation. Slendy himself is extraneous.
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Gaming / Re: Pokemon Generation VI: X/Y & Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:17:58 AM »
All the more reason for me to go with Alpha Sapphire. I want big whale to cuddle! 
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Forum Games / Re: Comment on the Previous Signature.
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:17:12 AM »
YOUR PENDULUM CANNOT WITHSTAND MY OGLE OF THIS MAGNITUDE!
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:15:55 AM »
He didn't say. All he saw were tire pieces. After that, we talked about stereotypes and how Pennsylvania is known as Pretzelreich.
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:01:15 AM »
Ringman encountered tire chunks on his way home from work. Lots of tire chunks, and an entire tire.
I have this theory that some trucker was going down the road and his tires blew, but he didn't notice. So, he's riding on the rims, but he thinks the rough ride is due to the road being crappy.
I have this theory that some trucker was going down the road and his tires blew, but he didn't notice. So, he's riding on the rims, but he thinks the rough ride is due to the road being crappy.
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Forum Games / Re: Comment on the Previous Signature.
« on: June 11, 2014, 01:58:54 AM »
Hahaha... That'll never work on me—HEY! Why're you ogling me like that?!
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Gaming / Re: Pokemon Generation VI: X/Y & Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
« on: June 11, 2014, 01:40:01 AM »
After several female Sneasels, I finally caught a male. Now the ratio is 8:1. DAYCARE ORGY
And while looking for rare dive-bombs on Victory Road, I encountered my traumatized Hypno's nightmares. Bad enough that Rock Smashing unleashed a Graveler, and then the subsequent random encounter was a Graveler, but then I spread some Honey and got a Graveler horde! And not long after that, what dive-bombs me from the ceiling than a freakin' Graveler!
Good thing I had Hypno boxed at the time. He'd be a gibbering mess if he witnessed any of that.
Never found the Pokemon I was looking for, but I did manage to lure a Lickitung horde. Got a good laugh from that.
And while looking for rare dive-bombs on Victory Road, I encountered my traumatized Hypno's nightmares. Bad enough that Rock Smashing unleashed a Graveler, and then the subsequent random encounter was a Graveler, but then I spread some Honey and got a Graveler horde! And not long after that, what dive-bombs me from the ceiling than a freakin' Graveler!
Good thing I had Hypno boxed at the time. He'd be a gibbering mess if he witnessed any of that.
Never found the Pokemon I was looking for, but I did manage to lure a Lickitung horde. Got a good laugh from that.
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Forum Games / Re: Add a caption to the previous poster's avatar, ROUND TWO!
« on: June 11, 2014, 12:00:56 AM »
Hahahahaha! Your dancing sucks!
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 10, 2014, 10:58:41 AM »
A Graveler swooped down from the cave ceiling.
A Graveler.
Ow.
A Graveler.
Ow.
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Forum Games / Re: Super "What Are You Thinking?" ReBirth
« on: June 10, 2014, 06:21:15 AM »
Mabel's used to her cone, so watching her wear it isn't as amusing anymore.