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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 30, 2010, 03:07:23 AM »

Not if the author doesn't give a [parasitic bomb] about the story or any kind of continuity in the first place. If they did, the games themselves would show it.

So you understand the entirety of what authors intend? You psychically know when someone may have intended for it to be the last game or not?

Also, there's that funny thing called retconning. Oh how writers love to retcon their work. Hell, I even do it on a rare occasion.

There's a lot of things to consider, economics, sales... and so forth. Some of which may or may not apply to this case, but I ALWAYS speak universally.

Except when I don't.

... Just say'n. Super Saiyan.

CURIOUS AFTER THOUGHT: Kinda like Megaman Classic... should we consider the gameboy games canon in the first place? Doesn't that through out Vaati or whatever? My knowledge is a bit edgy though.

Still saying that it's all a big incest story.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 30, 2010, 01:52:48 AM »

I dunno, G. That's like saying if I create water, it's really wine.

Word of God indicates that is what the end discussion is. If I wrote a game one way and then decided AFTER THE FACT, it was "THIS" way... it's [chameleon sting]ing this way.

Hence Word of God. That's just as bad as the idiots who think that writers should write their story according to the way the fans want it as opposed to how the [tornado fang] the writer wants to write it.

Facebook Zetta decrees that such logic is both annoying and boring.

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Off The Wall / Re: RPM's Personal Meet-up or Who on RPM would you like to meet?

« on: June 27, 2010, 11:03:17 AM »

I guess my only comment here is the fact I personally would rather have laid back get together where we play some good ol' Brawl and have good wholesome drinks like juice of varying sorts, V8 Fusion and what have you.

Alcohol has too many issues attached to me and honestly causes more troubles than positives. That and drunks just rub me the wrong way.

Irregardless (lol), one of these days we all need to get rich/make a fund and get us all together.

Though I'm sure we'll just kill one another for some wonky reason.

Also, yay for Vitamin Water!

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Forum Games / Re: "What Are You Thinking Now?"

« on: June 23, 2010, 11:13:46 AM »

"Mildly concerned because out of no where I be hearing Megaman 5's Star Man Stage theme... should I be concerned?"

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Off The Wall / Re: RPM's Personal Meet-up or Who on RPM would you like to meet?

« on: June 23, 2010, 11:09:30 AM »

Doesn't everyone mean you included!?

And not the BAAAAACALYPSE!!!

You still have dat free pass, G.

and thanks Mirbkins

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Off The Wall / Re: RPM's Personal Meet-up or Who on RPM would you like to meet?

« on: June 23, 2010, 11:02:15 AM »

Jericho
PB
Vixy
DZ
Hitomi
Nobo
Doctor Wily II
Flash (so I can molest him, with a 2x4)
Rad
Archer (UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS)
GameSaver
Borockman
Sub Tank
Acid
Lady Al-- oh rite
Irgy
Mirby
Harry
PLUVIUS And Waldo at the same time, so I can watch the drama ensue

And MYSELF, since no one wanted to meet me. BAAAAACALYPSE FOR ALL OF YOU 

(also, drowsy post is drowsy. headmedication is baaaaaaaad for you even if you do have a headache)

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 20, 2010, 07:10:19 AM »

At this point it's basically Character vs Plot and Opinion vs Opinion.

*shrugs* I don't care for either at this point since it'll just go back and forth. I think that for a plot, characters are necessary, just as characters need a place to be. I need both for a story to be particularly interesting at this point. Carry on Zelda thread.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 20, 2010, 05:29:15 AM »

Why are the characters more important than the plot in a "story" to you? Just kinda confused here.

Pretty simple process. If the characters don't matter, if they aren't important/likable/interesting/relate able and so forth, then it is very easy to lose interest in the game or the characters or what happens to them.

A plot can rarely carry its self, dynamic characters are important as well.

Based on the kind of stuff you like, Legends will be a bit too "light" for your taste. You're a tad too "hardcore" for that kind of thing, honestly. But it's definitely the diamond in the rough when it comes to stories with Capcom. Command Missions is also decent, but doesn't compare.

Also, gotta say. KOTOR 2's story was superior to KOTOR 1. Let the flames begin.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 20, 2010, 12:18:34 AM »

He looks kinda chubby. Or is it just me?

Personally, I thought he was always kinda stubby. Never really appeared well-toned or anything.

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 19, 2010, 01:20:43 AM »

You do realize this is what most "hardcore" gamers like nowadays, right? It's really sad...

I mean, if it's any indication, look at Adult Swim and other things on that general level. "Gamers" are being fused with the general populace of things like Spike TV viewers and what have you.

Frats are now gamers... etc. etc. etc.

But I have one question... are they all using the same spoon? Because that, THAT makes ME uncomfortable. 

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 11:32:09 PM »

It's not really the fact that "everything has been done". You can redo it in different ways as many times as you'd like. And no, everything has not been done. You'd be surprised at the number of stories still left to tell due to the existance of dogmas, taboos and other stuff. People just tell and re-tell what they like.

Which is the problem with 99,9999999999999% of the stories in games. Derivative bullshit. Heck, even movies and TV have less quality stuff nowadays. Because there's a general lack of trying from the writers' parts.

Hence quotes. I realize that there is boundless potential for stories and it is truly only limited by the human imagination. But as the general world views it, everything has been done. And thusly I only care about the production of the story its self. I'm not criticizing other writers solely because of whether it's something horribly original or not. If I take something from the story, if it emotionally affects me... it is a good story. To me.

That is what I am looking for, the emotional connection and stimulation. Which of course, can be a myriad of emotions.

Gonna apologize ahead of time to the Zelda fans... >_> Me and Flash managed to derail things (again?) But I oh-so enjoy bantering with him, so forgive.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 11:18:26 PM »

Gaming does hold alot of potencial for storytelling, but... well, it's really, really, REALLY hard to find a game with a story that's worth a damn, and that you wouldn't be able to find on any run-of-the-mill fiction book.

Well, I guess it's a matter of questioning why one reads stories. A lot of people are looking for something that is "new and original" without realizing that "everything has been done before" in general. Hence why I don't really bother with such things and am more concerned with how something is written. That said, I like my stories to be a bigger presentation than a book. I like visuals, things I can hear. There is more to a story than words, music can set the mood.

Why do you think people watch movies? I mean, aside from attention span-less Americans. >_> There's more production than a mere book. Don't get me wrong, I love books though.

People wonder why I love Openings in anime. The openings can capture a lot of production and story telling in the mere minute it takes to play them. The mood of the music, how the animation slide is played... Whether it is subjective or relevant to the plot or not.

... Oh right. Derailing from Zelda the topic. Carry on.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 11:02:39 PM »

So you don't play fighting games or puzzle games?

Nothing wrong with it. Just... games are kind of a funny place to get good stories at.

I do occasionally play Fighting games, picky about those since I'm interested in their stories as well. Soul Caliber was always interesting to me. Well, till it became minor in the story department like most Fighting games.

Puzzle Games... uh, well. I play those on the rarer occasion.

This is generally why RPGs are my main priority with gaming.

Gaming holds a lot of potential for storytelling, that is why I am here.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:50:45 PM »

Playing games for the story? Games like Zelda? Zelda has never been about the story, to be honest. It had a few good things going on OOT, MM and WW, but aside from that... it never really was about it.

That's just how I am, G. Here's a "spreadsheet" for ya.

Storyline and Characters > Presentation (Graphics and Musical Score) > Gameplay.

That's how I play my games.

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:48:09 PM »

You misunderstood what I said, d00d.

I'll restate. "WoW and all those riding on it's tailwind."

Think about that for a second Flash, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST!

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:46:35 PM »

Since Link and Zelda NEVER end up together or even slightly romantically involved at the end of every game, it's safe to say they never do the nasty. Ganon, I think he's been proven to always be the same guy going through time and dimensions and causing crap to happen.

Also, it was a reference to this:

It's a joke mostly. Given the entirety of Zelda is apeshit continuity wise, I devised my own theory that makes sense enough to me that I can call it a theory. That said...

I promised myself never to waste a single thought on continuity or timeline matters. It's meaningless and doesn't affect gameplay at all.

For those that Gameplay is their major factor... I suppose that is fine and dandy. But someone like me plays games primarily for the story. When the story makes no sense, we must do something to make it make sense to us.

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:11:30 PM »

LoL, I didn't say I was getting it.  I hate MMO's! 

THE GALAXY NEEDS YOU PB

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:08:25 PM »

But M'Lord Ares.......it's STAR WARS! 

I'll most likely watch from afar. I don't have the life force to play two MMOs anymore.

And well... I'm more of a fantasy kinda guy. I will be there though, in spirit. Force Spirit, as you all battle against the Sith Armies, young Padawan.

WoW.

...riding on ANYTHING'S tailwind.

...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Believe it or not, most MMOs are based on the concept of WoW, XI or Korean Rehash. Sad, but yeah.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 10:05:45 PM »

OK so... originally I had made a really large theory on how everything was connected by Incesty.

Yes, incesty.

It's a word now, look it up. Anyway, I lack the major details now but it's CLEARLY obvious that the entire Zelda series is one big incestuous orgy. Why? Because Link, Zelda AND Ganon are all... well, in nearly every Zelda game.

That said... it brings up interesting questions. Do they get down and dirty after every game? Are Link and Ganon brothers or father and son? Why the hell is it popular to "love thy enemy" in Hyrule? These answers and more... I must have them, Nintendo! The fanbase deserves to know!

"WHOEVER HOLDS THIS MASTER SWORD SHALL POSSESS THE POWER OF... LINK!"

A CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED!

This could very well be a new theory! Maybe anyone who is destined for the sword is invaded by the Link Virus and be-- ... Naw, that's just stupid.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread

« on: June 18, 2010, 09:56:42 PM »

Is it time for my incest theory again?

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 18, 2010, 09:54:56 PM »

Gonna hate myself for this eventually but... [tornado fang] Capcom.

Square did it for me for a change, XIV looks great and the change in battle mechanics seems just what XI needed in its run. So, I'm looking forward to a great MMO finally.

Yes, finally. WoW and all the ones on it's tailwind are crap. And Blizzard should stop wasting money on making another MMO as I've heard and make another RTS Warcraft game. Srsly.

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 18, 2010, 05:11:15 AM »

[tornado fang] you, Capcom.

Where's my Legends 3 announcement that you promised me?

FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 16, 2010, 05:44:41 AM »

So, E3 was more than I expected. I'm impressed with Nintendo this year, which is saying something. With PB, still waiting for ZOE3... fuckers.

Also, in regards to Flash. I don't feel offended by Ben's disdain towards E3 Nintendo and so forth. I respect Ben's opinion. I loved what I saw so far and want to see more.

My big [tornado fang] yeahs so far are Kid Icarus... even if I'm pissed about the 3DS so far. Also, still lulzing over the fact my kitty kept telling me there would be Kid Icarus and I didn't believe her. Sorcery, yes plz. Looks interesting, love the concept. Too bad Sony is still a bit batshit insane with their prices. I'll come back later, corporate asshats

Zelda. Jizz'd.

Still trying to get the full picture of what's going on. Still going nuts over the SWTOR stuff I've seen. Still wanting to see more stuff. Also... still waiting for the mystery comment from Capcom. Yes, Capcom.

Yes, Legends 3. Plz?

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Off The Wall / Re: Birthday Thread~

« on: June 15, 2010, 06:03:05 AM »

... I MENTIONED IT TO KAYLA D:
THAT WORKS TOO RIGHT!? ;_;

You are forgiven. Mostly because of the cute avatar~

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Gaming / Re: The Official E3 2010 Discussion Thread & Lounge (Jun 13, 2010 - June 19, 2010)

« on: June 15, 2010, 03:10:40 AM »

That's all I needed to hear. Gimme a hug. ;_;

Also, Rabbids is about getting lots of stuff. Then putting it together. Then climbing it...


...TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!


Also, wow. The new Ghost Recon looks INSANE.

*insert bro hug* Hmm, Rabbids. It sounds interesting. I liked Katamari, so maybe this is up my alley. The missus will most likely enjoy it, based on what Hypershell said.

Thanks for the 411.