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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:29:17 AM »
You never specified that before. You outright said that whatever Capcom US presents is part of US canon. Naturally, that would include the boxes and decriptions, because logically, they are exactly that, descriptions of the game, so people can see what its about before buying it.

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EXE / Re: Rockman.exe 4.5 the translation that never was...
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:25:23 AM »
Ok, Ill admit, I want it to play as Forte.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:24:42 AM »
But the Box art shows what you should expect from the Game! And the description tells you all about what is happening in the game!

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Original / Re: Mega Man 9's secret?
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:22:22 AM »
Its been said to not be a weapon.
also...
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my guess is that Phantom is in the game

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:15:28 AM »
You're not refuting it very well.  ;)
Im not exactly good at these kinds of discussions.
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You've just made a lost of reasons why there *is* a US game canon at all.  Because all those things?  They'd be in it.
are you DEAD serious? even though such facts contradict the timeline and all that has been presented? Seriously? centuries of fighting, even though its the exacy same time frame? thats like saying JFK's assassination was yesterday when it really happened years ago.

Wily used to be X's comrade, even though they NEVER met? and Wily was an enemy LONG before Light so much as thought up a single circuit in X's head?

If you are seriously telling me you consider that US canon, then I cant argue anymore, you are going to believe it no matter what I say.

EDIT: I suppose Megaman 1's box art is also what Megaman really looks like right? Since Capcom US had it made. Megaman 1, 2, and 9's horrendous art.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:05:16 AM »
Not really. We are refuting your point on "US capcom game canon" :P

Plus, this is RPM. are you SURPRISED that it went from Wily and protoman to this?

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 11, 2009, 02:02:33 AM »
Well, now, I didn't say that the US game continuity was great, did I?

Again, you're bringing in irrelevant things and irrelevant series and making things needlessly complicated into a discussion which is strictly about Wily being Light's assistant.  We can lump all of that into the "arguments that are meant to confuse and misdirect" category.
You were the one going on about two seperate canons. and you accuse Zan of "choosing what he believes" and saying that if Capcom US says it, it is part of the US canon. by that logic, (or how I understood it anyway,) you would mean that those things are also part of the American canon.

You cant say all that then say it is irrelevant information, since then you are picking and choosing as well.

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ZX / Re: Raiders = Red Alert?
« on: October 11, 2009, 01:58:46 AM »
thats nothing new though... The games have been ambiguous about things since the X series.

Also I say ti simply because of the direct showing of Red's face. Model A looks similar to and acts like, Axl, but theres no solid references other than that. The Raiders have red's face plastered all over their ship.

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Anime & Manga / Re: Fullmetal Alchemist 2
« on: October 11, 2009, 01:52:50 AM »
The bear claw arm was pretty awesome as well. That guy as a whole was awesome.

"No more fancy swordplay for you."
that was a very badass move right there,

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Anime & Manga / Re: Fullmetal Alchemist 2
« on: October 11, 2009, 01:39:46 AM »
a [tornado fang]ing chainsaw arm. [tornado fang] yeah.

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Fan Creations / Re: Vixy Randomness~
« on: October 11, 2009, 01:39:11 AM »
Oh my god, swirly tits. X3
also, awesome Asena is awesome.

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Anime & Manga / Re: Fullmetal Alchemist 2
« on: October 11, 2009, 12:31:30 AM »
jeez its getting so intense that I hate waiting for the upcoming chapter.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 11, 2009, 12:18:35 AM »
If Capcom Japan tells them to change something they have to though.

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Entertainment / Re: What are you listening to?
« on: October 10, 2009, 11:15:40 PM »
U-GEN / Kurogane: Rockman X3 Doppler Stage 1 remix

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 10, 2009, 10:23:32 PM »
Yknow, Im just going to back out of this argument now... It was confusing to begin with, and doesn't seem like it will get any better. I added my 2 Cents, im outta here.

*backs away from the topic slowly*

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Rockman Series / Re: Out of all the villains...
« on: October 10, 2009, 10:17:47 PM »

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ZX / Re: Raiders = Red Alert?
« on: October 10, 2009, 10:08:11 PM »
So you're implying that they are not actually the big 4 and X/Zero?

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 10, 2009, 10:05:36 PM »
Wait...it sounds to me like the other manuals retconned the MM1 manual out of existence, so wouldn't that mean that both regions are the same canon then?
that is exactly what it means. nowadays we have very little of the old localization blunders of old. plus, even though the US games had Megaman discover that Proto was his brother, where in the japaese story he still doesnt know, we dont have the glaring error of Wily having worked with Light as an assistant. the folowng games to 1 corrected that localization change.
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But Proto's line towards the end would imply that he knew Wily was a nutter before the events of MM1/MMPU (and that he ran off before he got the shades and scarf, since Wily doesn't recognize him). That's not the same past that leads up to RMRM or MM3.

The way I see it, any of the playable characters besides Megaman in Rockman Rockman, are what if's, they are alternate possibilities, alternate timelines in which that robot was left. but in all, they are not relevant to the current story, they only add some food for thought, nothing else. they are not what really happened in the end.

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you decide and not what Capcom USA has decided.
thats the thing, Capcom of USA has no say in the story. what Capcom japan says is the story is the story. what Capcom of US says is the story is irrelevant and not canon. the game is made by Capcom japan, and the people there are the ones who decide what the story is. they then leave capcom US to tanslate the games and localize them. Capcom US decided it would be a cool twist to add that Wily was Lights assistant and that he rebelled. So they wrote that into their manual. However, that is not what actually happened. It is not canon. there is no such thing as a Japanese Canon and a US canon. Its just one, mega/rockman canon. only the Localization changes things to better suit their personal tastes, and what they think the local audience will respond better to. that does not make that the true story.

If a Shakespeare book says that Romeo and Juliet in the end killed themselves because the other was dead, Romeo with poison, Juliet with a knife, that is the story that Shakespeare wrote, correct? now, when that book is localized in France, they decide to change it so that Mercutio was actually Romeo's brother. and that Juliette had a sister named mary who died before the story started. That is not the proper story, that is a non canon add on to appeal to the French audience better. it was not what its creator intended, and therefore not canon.

this is the same thing, basically.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: October 10, 2009, 08:51:51 AM »

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: October 10, 2009, 08:02:11 AM »
This discussion as somehow gotten confusing.
Powered up is based on "what if" scenarios. Plus, If I recall ight, in the end, even though Wily stole Rock, he was unable to reprogram him, and thus made an evil copy which is the one you fight.
But I never played it, so I might be wrong.

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Fan Creations / Re: Rad's Thread
« on: October 10, 2009, 07:23:12 AM »
YOU... YOU... TITTY MONSTER!
8D awesome Rad. its- Radical.

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Gaming / Re: Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing
« on: October 10, 2009, 04:47:28 AM »
Lol, I didnt play Riders either. Felt like a useless side story to me.

Though, while I may not like the idea of Sonic in a car, I cant deny his car in S&SASR, his car looks pretty damn sweet.

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Zero / Re: Are the Big 4 technically X's children?
« on: October 10, 2009, 04:44:24 AM »
Did not need that mental image of Fefnir fertilizing land.
lol. what's so bad about it? It sounds funny to me.

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Fan Creations / Re: Rebirth of the Rockman-Themed Stolen *Bleep* Thread!!
« on: October 10, 2009, 04:42:14 AM »
Holy crap, "Beefed up" is an understatement there.

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