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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:21:37 PM »

what I mean, is the 10 shining arms. Zero, X, and the big 4 each have 1, or a set. Z-Saber, X-Buster, Nittoryu, Dark Cross, Sodom&Gomorrah, and Leviathan's Halberd. that leaves out 4 shining arms whom we dont know the owners of.

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Off The Wall / Re: Your browser?

« on: October 11, 2009, 10:10:21 AM »

I use IE at College.

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Off The Wall / Re: Cosplay

« on: October 11, 2009, 10:09:33 AM »

No, id definitely say it has not been posted.
what is it though? Looks... Cool.

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Entertainment / Re: Death Note Live Action

« on: October 11, 2009, 10:08:18 AM »

That sounds juuust about right.

hell, after that Chun li movie, and the dragonball one, im ready to believe anything here.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)

« on: October 11, 2009, 09:18:23 AM »

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.

« on: October 11, 2009, 09:13:28 AM »

Hey Gonzo, have you ever read an old fanfic named "Gate Crash"?

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Fan Games / Re: Mega Man X: Corrupted (flash fangame)

« on: October 11, 2009, 09:04:25 AM »

I was watching when it reached X's vaiation of Zero's ground slam, and was like, cool. it has that X1 bubble wave effect. then I went, HOLY [parasitic bomb],  DID HE JUST NOVA STRIKE!?

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 11, 2009, 09:00:26 AM »

Cant wait.

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ZX / Re: ZX: Model's X and Z were not made from X and Zero

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:30:54 AM »

he doesnt like some of the gameplay choices X5 puts on you. mainly, some items being ONLY accessible by X or by Zero. Plus Xtreme 1 was pretty bad.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:29:19 AM »

Iceman likes his sister.

anyway, you most definitely should make a section for that! you could have 1, and 2, (and show how the box art eventually progressively got better, then show coa's funny 9 joke)

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Off The Wall / Re: The Mystery of the Forum Users - Take 4

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:23:01 AM »

Heya. Nice to see you again. I hope you do stick around even outside of the discussion in question.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:18:55 AM »

Yknow Girla, I think this is the first time I have ever heard you curse.

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Gaming / Re: Concept Artwork For "Epic Mickey" from Warren Spector

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:13:27 AM »

Yknow what show was good? House of mouse. I miss that show.

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Zero / Re: MegaMan Zero, then and now.

« on: October 11, 2009, 06:12:23 AM »

Plus the fact that there are a bunch of unknown wielders which we will never know.

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ZX / Re: ZX: Model's X and Z were not made from X and Zero

« on: October 11, 2009, 05:47:28 AM »

Inafune is not the owner of Megaman. and he is not the only executive producer in the ones he was in.

Plus, Megaman belongs to Capcom, not Inafune. even though he drew him, he drew him for Capcom. what capcom does with Megaman is their call. Inafune only gets his say because he has been involved with Megaman ever since he ws made. As the character designer, he has his say. But if Capcom decides to do something with megaman its their call, not his. Plus, ZXA is a direct reference to X7. Model A, whether it is or is not Axk, is clearly based on Axl. Even if it does not have his soul, Albert clearly based it on him regardless, ability and appearance wise. Personality as well. Plus Red's face is outright shown on the Raider Airship. which is an X series cameo, just like all the cameos in the original ZX. (and ZXA has its fair share too.)
think about it, in X8 Orbital elevators were first created. in XCM, there were more. in the Zero series, all important Neo Arcadian facilities, such as governmental ones, are located aboard stationary satellites reachable via orbital elevator. the orbital elevator in Z1 used to be an orbital elevator, but was damaged during the war, and so, it was hollowed out, and filled with traps and enemies to fool would be intruders. in Z3, in area X-2, there is a part where the wall becomes transparent, showing clouds, and dozens of other pillars towering into the sky along with the one you are in. Those are other orbital elevators.

likewise, the Copy ability was developed some time before X7, Prototyped by Axl. in X8, the full new generation reploids with the perfected Copy ability appear. Sigma made sure his DNA was included in their database, and therefore, exploited a loophole in their inability to go maverick. His DNA is already in there, so they already are maverick. they share his way of thinking by inheriting his DNA, and basically, become not just mavericks, but his equals. they are defeated in X8. years later, in Command mission, Redips and his soldiers at his base, are all new gens as well. as indicated by X's "years later" copy chips were once again in production" redips is an awakened newgen. he is defeated. and it is likely it is not over either.

in ZXA, we see Master Albert, a human with a mechanical body. but then we meet his real mechanical body, which contains a copy chip, giving him the copy ability. He plans to become a God by using his copy ability in connection with Model W's eating of souls to control all life. Noted by him being able to not just "copy" but turn INTO the bosses when you meet himthe first time  in ouroboros.
he also created Model A, with the same copy ability.

This is an ability that is deeply rooted in the X series, introduced in 7 and 8, and XCM. how are they not Canon?

Posted on: October 10, 2009, 11:45:18 PM

Get equipped with Satellite Elves.

And the Z4 elf, AND Mother Elf.

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ZX / Re: ZX: Model's X and Z were not made from X and Zero

« on: October 11, 2009, 04:58:46 AM »

Guys, guys, stop it.

Also, X6-8 are canon. Inafune does not like X6, but he accepted it, deciding that more could be done with the story than ending at 5. (which is a terrible ending point.)

He also was involved in Axl's conception.

Battle and Chase is canon. Just as canon as the Gameboy Megaman games, Xtreme 1, and Xtreme 2. all because you dont like them doesnt mean that makes them non canon.

Rockman Rockman is a remake. just like MHX. what they did, is include "what if" scenarios, which are mind you, entirely optional. the main Megaman story is just what it used to be. all they did, was change the "Wily used to be Light's assistant" part, back to the japanese Megaman 1's story, where Wily never worked with Light at all.

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ZX / Re: ZX: Model's X and Z were not made from X and Zero

« on: October 11, 2009, 04:33:51 AM »

"Told".

theres also this.

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ZX / Re: ZX: Model's X and Z were not made from X and Zero

« on: October 11, 2009, 04:14:41 AM »

No, if it was fanservice, it stays as fanservice.

 the Drama tracks ae not fanservice but expansions things they later decide to improve, and or add to the story. by that logic, things such as expansion pacts and DLs for games are as well, since they are intended to expand content.

If I remember correctly, so did Model A. And, no, that is not a trait of X. If X had wanted to protect them, it would've been a trait of X.

X Cant really do much when he's a floating head, now can he.

And Ciel created the Big 4.

if you mean the Big 4's biometals, yes. If you mean the Big 4 themselves, no. theyve been around since before she was even born.

Hm, if I was Ciel I could easily reference that battle myself. After all, Zero survives the battle with Omega after the Guardians sacrifice themselves.

She does not know the intimate details that the biometals know.

No, that is clearly a work of fanservice.

then why is it called a "SOURCE" book

Yes, but X's armour is destroyed in Z2.

X has not touched that body since he sealed Dark elf the previous century. X sacrificed his body to seal dark elf. Half of Dark Elf is within his body, and half was within the giant sphere behind it.

Yes, he dies. The cyber elf/soul idea is complete theory.

X begs to disagree.

This method of "resurrection", if you can call it this, dates all the way back to Wily. It is merely when you keep backups and copies of the original, Sigma did it as well. It's a clever way of trying to explain the boss rush's, but it doesn't mean it is some explicit plot device.

A replid is vastly different than a robot from the classic series. they are human enough to have details that cannot simply be copied. hence why the only was a reploid can be resurrected Legally in the X series is if their control chip is still intact. if it is not, then you need to preform a DNA resurrection, which is highly illegal.

in the Zero/ZX series, with the discovery of Reploid cyber elf souls, it makes the process much easier than using their DNA.

Also, everything right there sound way to convient. Why didn't she just extract Zero's "soul" from cyberspace and place him in another body? Why didn't she just do that for the original X? Why not the Big 4 as well?

for gameplay reasons.

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ZX / Re: ZX: Model's X and Z were not made from X and Zero

« on: October 11, 2009, 03:55:53 AM »

Yes, I asked you to come here.

Anyway. first off, the soundtrack is not fanservice, they deliberately added the drama tracks to expand on what they had in game. Phantom WAS originally just a bonus with no story relevance. the Drama tracks expanded upon that, and made him story relevant.

also, how can you say their personalities dont match? Model X reacts to Vent and Ailes bravery in protecting Prairie even thouh they didnt even know her. That is definitely an X trait.

Model Z is distant, and self sacrificial, as well as cold logical (so to speak)

Model P is all mysterious phrases and clever dialogue. "in the end he drowned in his own power... What a fitting end for one who desired it so badly..."

and so on.

plus they do have memories, they directly reference the battle against Weil 200 years ago. Model H references it when you defeat Hivolt.

also, prairie mentions the "consciousness of legendary heroes" "Souls" in the japanese version.

ad complete wors is not fanservice, it is a compilation of the artwork accumulated from the game. most of it is used ingame, and some of it is from the game's development. it has interviews with Inticreates themselves.

and it was area F (I think) it was the fozen lake, not a underground cave.

once again, X did not go away in Z2, he is in Z3. he is an integral part of the story in Z3, protecting resistance base when Weil uses Omega with the Dark Elf to brainwash all the reploids on earth. X appears when resistance soldiers attack Zero and Ciel, and disables Weils control, setting up a protection around the base. He gives the the coordinates fof Weil's base at the end, as well. He is also present when you defeat Copy X, noting that Copy X was used by Weil. He also tells Ciel the truth about Zero and Omega. (the fact that Omega is in possession of Zero's body, and Zero's current body is a copy of his original one. )

in Z4, Zero died. thats it. he died. but his Soul/cyber elf, ended up in Cyberspace, along with X and Phantom, and then later, the retconned 3 remaining guardians as well.

Ciel devoted herself to finding Zero, and studied Weils area of expertise, which is reploid resurrection when Model W was found and she sealed the core, she made X, Z, H,L,F, and P. using Weil's techniques of ressurection, she extrcted their souls from Cyberspace, and revived them as Biometals. what she did do, and you are right about this, is she created them using the data she had gained from studying the Model W fragment, which is, the R.O.C.K. system. (MEGA system in the localized version) she used the biometal technology gleamed from W, to create the Biometal "bodies". but they do have their original souls in them.

Posted on: October 10, 2009, 09:47:38 PMAlso, Ciel did not create Model W. This man did.

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X / Re: How would you describe Sigma?

« on: October 11, 2009, 03:13:46 AM »

When they made CM, they were already making X8, as evidenced by the demo in the PS2 version. And if they were already producing X8's game, that means that they already had an outline of it's story. They most likely had a draft already, if not he definitive story for X8, when they were making CM.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 11, 2009, 02:45:44 AM »

But this is getting stale.

Whatever. If you wish to believe your thing about the US Canon, go ahead, theres no reason for you to not believe if you want to that badly. Ill stick with everyone else to the notion of one canon, and a messed up US localization.

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Gaming / Re: Concept Artwork For "Epic Mickey" from Warren Spector

« on: October 11, 2009, 02:44:07 AM »

Well It's Disney. They are  a very good bunch. Im sure they'll do fine.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 11, 2009, 02:41:43 AM »

What would be nice is if maybe our other Megaman experts would jump in and give their two cents so its not just Us thee arguing about the matter.

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Gaming / Re: Concept Artwork For "Epic Mickey" from Warren Spector

« on: October 11, 2009, 02:34:43 AM »

http://wii.ign.com/articles/102/1028584p1.html
 seems something will be revealed the 28th?

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon

« on: October 11, 2009, 02:31:57 AM »

Hey shouldn't this topic maybe be split into its own Classic section thread over "US vs Japanese canon" or something?

This topic is for small little discussions and little funny tidbits we find online, not for a full scale argument over it. >_>;