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Zero / Re: About Omega
« on: November 09, 2009, 09:11:50 AM »
Did I win something? :D

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Forum Games / Re: If I were a super villain
« on: November 09, 2009, 08:52:17 AM »
The Joker's had his fair share of devices though. many of which he makes himself.

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37 days, 6 hours and 11 minutes.

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Zero / Re: About Omega
« on: November 09, 2009, 08:46:14 AM »
Well yeah, but then it isnt really a necropost.

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Off The Wall / Re: Cosplay
« on: November 09, 2009, 08:40:19 AM »
Yep.  That's Syndrome.
Must be having  a bad hair day.

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Zero / Re: About Omega
« on: November 09, 2009, 08:39:33 AM »
Once again, PLEASE dont necropost. Its a bad thing.

The date posted is right under the title in every post.

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Mmm. Well now you know.

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Off The Wall / Re: Cosplay
« on: November 09, 2009, 07:59:54 AM »
Oh God... Is that the guy from the incredibles?

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You should check the last post date before posting. You just necroposted a thread dead or like, 3 months.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: November 09, 2009, 06:56:29 AM »
(click to show/hide)

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: November 09, 2009, 05:47:18 AM »
I actually have my own file where I undid the ol' spiral eyes. Added a regular eye, finished out the hair and shoulder, took out Peach's in-the-way hand, made the lace actually white, etc.
I like the hypno eyes. :D
Well, that may have to do with the fact that, unlike Moka, she does not have a hot alter-ego/second personality :D
true.

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Off The Wall / Re: Cosplay
« on: November 09, 2009, 05:24:34 AM »
Lol, was that all it needed? some Mio?

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: November 09, 2009, 05:23:32 AM »
Moka as Morrigan/Lilith? That's really quite appropiate, as is Kurumu as the almost naked Felicia XD
Im actually surprised no one is asking why Kurumu isnt Morrigan or Lillith. After all, she IS a succubus! But I digress, I prefer it this way as well.
Morrigan/Lilith tribute, you say?


(click to show/hide)
Hubba hubba... <3

Also, Hypno crown indeed.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: November 09, 2009, 04:46:46 AM »
Ive had to doublepost almost 3 times. :P Thank goodness theres a join posts button.

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Off The Wall / Re: Cosplay
« on: November 09, 2009, 04:45:27 AM »
Mana as in that Lolita?
As in the last pic I posted.

I looked him up- He's in a band.

I must admit... Interesting read.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: November 09, 2009, 02:48:18 AM »
Except no one posts in the cosplay thread anymore. I think Im the only one. >__>;

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General / Re: So you'd like to have a random avatar like me, huh...
« on: November 09, 2009, 02:07:00 AM »
Not to necro, but-

Is there any way to prevent stretching of the avatars on other forums? ive noticed that it tends to happen. for example, at X9.com, it stretches out images with a small width or length instead of resizing them to look the way they should, but in the new MMN forum, it outright takes them all and stretches them to the max avatar size of 200x200.

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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 09, 2009, 01:48:21 AM »
doesn't mean much. Especially when his sprites in game put an emphasis on him always sticking his buster out. its more of a "stay where you are, wily!" the same way that police point their guns regardless of circumstances.

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Off The Wall / Re: Reposted Picture Thread (56K Warning)
« on: November 09, 2009, 01:22:20 AM »
I would. [tornado fang], what better way to pay respects to him?


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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 09, 2009, 01:19:50 AM »
.....By this statement, are you trying to say that Asimov's laws aren't programmed in, but rather are the definition for a robot's moral code?
Well a part of it, yeah. They have the same moral code as a human, but with the laws included as part of that. as a "general idea" or "moral".
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Then show some evidence of them practically in effect.  Where a robot is FORCED to obey them.
play the X series. If a robot harms a human, they are almost immediately investigated to see if they are maverick. In fact, we dont know what they do to reploids who hurt humans without being maverick. Reploids who do it simply in a criminal way. For all we know, they kill them too.

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Right.  Capcom applied the laws in their own way.  A way that is not consistant with how they are presented by Asimov: as laws that MUST be obeyed.
thats basically what we've been saying for the last page. Capcom applied them- but in their own way. as in, they took creative liberty with them.

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Which renders the source material inapplicable.  You can not use Asimov-story logic in MM. Because it doesn't apply.  Similarily, you can't talk about how MM is about to break Asimov's rules or robotics in MM7 because Asimov's rules don't apply to MM as they apply to his own robots.  They are simply two seperate stories.

Capcom may have been inspired by Asimov's rules, but as you say, they have gone their own way.  Asimov is no longer in the discussion.  Especially in a world where a robot can run down a human who is trying to run away.
Personally, I dont even see the MEGA-man 7 "die wily" bit as canon. it was the localization team thinking it was cool. and they are not the ones who make the story. They are not the writers who planned out the story.

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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 09, 2009, 12:50:35 AM »
They exist regardless. They need to exist. Its the same way that Humans know that certain things are bad. Humans have morals, yes? a sense of right and wrong? a conscience to say "murder is bad! adultery is bad! etc." The laws of robotics in the Megaman universe work in a similar way to that. They exist because Asimov created them, and Robots such as Megaman , live in the future, where the self thinking robots from Asimov's fiction writings are quite real. They therefore know of Asimov's laws, and understand them. They dont have them inertly programmed in, the same way that humans do not have morals inertly implanted into their brains at birth. It is the way that just as a human can disregard the morals of modern society and kill someone, a robot can disregard the rules, and kill a human. Its the whole idea behind the X series. Robots who have broken the first rule of robotics, and not just as a petty crime such as to rob or anything, but because they wish to eradicate humans. those are brought about by things such as glitches and errors, as well as th Sigma virus, which manipulates a reploid into Sigma's bidding.

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That he had every reason to believe was Wily
Who was apparently not a human, meaning the laws did not apply there. They do not state that a robot cant harm an alien invader trying to take over the world. Plus do we really know if he knew it was Wily? Megaman never talks in the NES games. only we the player thought he might be an alien. Maybe from a story perspective, Megaman saw through the cheap trick.

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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 09, 2009, 12:26:56 AM »
Dr. Light follows his own rules!

#1. Clean up after my mess.
#2. Help me around the lab.
#3. Defeat evil.
What I mean, is he outright mentions them in the intro to X1. And honestly, Im hearing some say 'if they are the same rules"
Asimov CREATED the Rules of Robotics. And in pretty much any scenario, when someone mentions "The Rules of robotics", its those.
From I Robot, to Bicentennial Man.

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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 09, 2009, 12:22:51 AM »
Tell me how they dont apply. They dont apply to Megaman, in the same way that they dont to X. However they are still present. Remember, Im not saying that they have them programmed into their heads or any of that shpiel, but that they exist, and the robots know them, even if they dont have them. And even if they dont know them, but the humans do, even then, they exist, Light himself is proof.
For me, it really hinges on the "laws of robotics" Dr. Light refers to in MMX1. If it's the same as Asimov's, well, that's one thing. If Dr. Light found out about the events of the ending of MM7, it would have encouraged him to build Megaman X, in an attempt to avoid any human deaths by robots.


The thing with your statement is that it delves into the territory of "what is canon" that we were discussing before. The actual game, as produced by Japan, does not have the line, it just has Megaman silent, which could mean a number if things. Maybe megaman was calmly listening to wily's pleas, probably thinking to himself what a rotten person Wily is.
the American version added in "Im more than a robot! Die Wily!!" The question is more, is that canon? or should it be dismissed as a localization blunder of them doing, I quote, "the reverse 4kids thing"?

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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 09, 2009, 12:03:28 AM »
Its pretty much just a sense of morals. However, they DO have the rules in their heads one way or another, whether they are forced to abide by them or not. They KNOW the rules, in any case. If Light himself mentions them, then they are quite applicable.

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Original / Re: When Megaman is about to shoot Wily...
« on: November 08, 2009, 10:57:20 PM »
Thats true. They say only X worries and has free will, But Megaman was pretty free himself, and he was just a susceptible to mind games as X, as shown by Power fighters. Although Megaman is programmed to be a goody goody. Cuz Light is a goody goody, and he wanted a goody goody little boy around the house. X was kinda left to his own devices.

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