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Rockman Series / Re: It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive
« on: September 06, 2012, 06:38:45 PM »
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With BBAMM, I don't see a good enough reason to be offended by him

If nothing I say will ever be good enough, then I don't see the point of continuing this argument.

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Rockman Series / Re: It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive
« on: September 06, 2012, 04:52:04 PM »
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It's easy if you try.

Didn't I just say why it wasn't?

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I think it's wrong to see BBAMM as an insult. I don't think it's wrong to dislike it, but I think it's wrong to take it as anything other than a joke, poor taste or not.

That doesn't make it right to completely dismiss people's negative reactions to it.

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You're misconstruing my argument, and the very premise of this thread. The title isn't "It Dumbfounds Me that People Don't Like BBAMM," it's "It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive."

You might've gotten me there, but I figured that by definition, if something offends you, then you aren't going to like it. Didn't want to sound like a broken record (though I'm pretty sure that I failed at that anyway).

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It's the difference between a joke (unrelated to Legends 3's cancellation as opposed to it's existence) and an insult.

Jokes can be taken as insults, and if you don't get that now, you probably never will.

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X / Re: Rockman X is Over
« on: September 06, 2012, 04:25:01 PM »
I think I'll just keep calling him "Luka". "Akiyo Haruka"'s not a bad name, either--in fact, something tells me that a lot of people are gonna stick with their fanon names.

Also, if Capcom wants me to believe that this is as involved a crossover as they're making it out to be, they'll have to show me more than just the X elements.

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Rockman Series / Re: It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive
« on: September 06, 2012, 04:15:54 PM »
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We need to dissociate our disappointment with Legends 3 from BBAMM

BBAMM is a freaking partial reference to MML3. It's kinda hard to completely dissociate BBAMM from MML3 when his back-story is more-or-less exactly like Trigger's.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across as equally stubborn, but you're not even trying to understand how people could have such a negative reaction to BBAMM, instead writing off anything that could possibly explain it as an "excuse".

I know that BBAMM's meant to poke fun at how MM was localized in the past, or at least the MM1 boxart, and that not everyone will be bothered by timing or even know the context. I'm fine with that. What really pissed me off when BBAMM was revealed were all the people who, whether they thought so or not, were treating their opinion as objective fact and yelling at everyone who didn't like BBAMM.

Minus the yelling, that's about what's going on here. Anyone who doesn't like BBAMM is a humourless [dark hold] who is repulsed by the very idea of "fun" and not, you know, annoyed with Capcom's decision to go through with BBAMM even after both of the games he referenced were cancelled, thus making the joke thoughtless at best.

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Rockman Series / Re: It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive
« on: September 06, 2012, 03:36:02 PM »
BBAMM has a backstory that's incredibly similar to Trigger's, and given how long ago he was planned, was likely meant to reference both MML3 and Universe. He does indeed have something to do with MML3.

And no, "timing" is not an excuse. I've already tried to tell you why, but my words just seem to keep bouncing off your skull.

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Rockman Series / Re: It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive
« on: September 06, 2012, 03:11:02 PM »
I don't mind if people like BBAMM; it's when they try to shame the ones who didn't into finding a poorly-timed joke funny that I get angry.

And you can argue all you want that timing doesn't matter...but it obviously does. As I keep saying, I wouldn't mind BBAMM if we didn't get him when we did, and I'm not alone in that.

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Rockman Series / Re: It Dumbfounds Me that People Find BBAMM Offensive
« on: September 06, 2012, 02:42:57 PM »
I really [tornado fang]ing hate this idea that people aren't allowed to dislike ANYTHING, for any reason whatsoever.

It doesn't matter what game BBAMM showed up in; is it not to much to ask that Capcom demonstrate some goddamn tact and not include a "joke" that recent events have made uncomfortable at best?

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 06, 2012, 12:37:05 AM »
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I completely forgot that I drew this.

'twas another attempt at emulating MvC2's style (at least colouring-wise). It's not as easy to do in SAI as it seemed.


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Trying something new-ish in MS Paint.

Having ridden on a motorcycle with his Earth's Proto before, RS-Rock was naturally nervous about hopping on one with PM-Rock--especially since he doesn't have his armour at the moment. Good thing PM-Rock is a better motorcyclist (right?).


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More scribbling in MS-Paint.

These four, I believe, are the highest tier 'bots in Classic MM; aside from Duo, they have quite a bit in common--similar colour schemes, leaders of a group of powerful 'bots, undergoing of a Heel Face Turn of sorts (Sungod apparently realizes he was a douchenozzle, King leaves Wily, Apollo turned out not really be evil--IIRC). Duo is the only good guy in the group (Abaddon/Evil Energy 'Bot might've fit better, but he wasn't much of a character), and even he fought Megaman at some point.


* Apollo comes from Rockman Strategy, and I think this is the first time I've drawn him (if not ever, then in a while). Also--is my memory failing me, or is he the only combat 'bot in Classic MM to not wear a jumpsuit?


Posted on: September 03, 2012, 06:18:28 PM

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We're up to #40 now.


* I've seen quite a bit of fanart suggesting that Tango is Roll's helper.

* Man, Kapelle is smug.

* Lesson learned with Ran.EXE: Make sure a character's colour scheme doesn't already exist before you give them your own.

* Aiko is not imprisoned on the Hive; therefore, she's not in Blackburn (mostly because I learned of her existence long after planning).

* I imagine RS-Rock took one look at RS-Badinerie and loudly declared his intent to take the robo-goat home.

* Can't tell if Prototype Irwin!Sailor Moon had odangos or not. (Funtastic fact: all of the Sailors in that first wave had identical boots, because the "short skirt + high heels" combo might lead to complaints of "ew prostitutes". Depressing, but at least it gave us some different designs)

* *AndrewDickman's Snowwoman has another design; the one I drew is her "game/Classic" one.

* The most recent update as of this writing (spoiler alert?) inspired me to draw Troll-Rock's and Roll's pre-Scratch ancestors.

* It also led to Dr. Kalinka Cossack, young Mikhail, and Lightman (whose armour is reminiscent of Solarman's...whoops).

* Actual snake heads probably don't look like Cleft's. Soprano, meanwhile, got some tweaked colours and those shoulder-wheel things.

* I redesigned Marina (who came across to me as an expy of Slider) a while ago; Michelle is mostly the same.

* PM-Rock likely isn't used to non-destructive physical contact.

* Classic Dolce was apparently dropped early on in her existence, so I dunno what she was like. (Similar to Dolce.EXE?)

* I admittedly skimmed through "Taco: The Comic", but I did like the non-recolour character designs. Lilac/[sonic slicer]-Bot started off as two recolours before acquiring that armour; Chick-Bot, as one (though her upgrade got recoloured when she turned evil; the comic ended before that could be resolved).

* Rock, it doesn't matter what the Geminimen offer you. Do not follow them.

* Also from "Taco: The Comic" are Sugar-Bot (an antagonist) and Ivy, Chick-Bot's robo-fox friend.

* I miscoloured Chick-Bot's armour; it's supposed to be yellow. >.>

* What do you do when you want to draw ~Design-Escape's RS-Akane in two different outfits, but only want to draw Akane herself once? Stick RS-Rock in the other outfit. (Poor guy isn't used to wearing purple--or pink)

* Both Jova and Pop are romantically involved with Rock.

* My version of PM-Proto shows his face, though not in his usual longcoat. Not yet sure about that hairstyle. (What's worse, getting curbstomped and presumed dead, then killed at your brother's hands--or being trapped in an endless cycle of resurrection at the hands of someone you most likely hate?)

* Lots of different Aprils, starting with the original, whose 80s perm I tried to translate into something less blatantly dated.

* Wonder if bad guy!Venus de Milo'd work as a former human, rather than a former non-anthro turtle.

* Lady Lightning's hair might actually be black.

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Fan Creations / Re: Karasai has doodles and art
« on: September 03, 2012, 01:44:06 AM »
That is one fine-lookin' sprite. :O

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 01, 2012, 07:47:29 PM »
Eddie's not trying to squash Clarino, but the bat might want to move out of the way regardless. XD;



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It's been a while since I used coloured pencils; 'twas semi-following this tutorial: http://fav.me/d4vco3f

I don't know much about the RP Alt comes from(?), other than that Megaman and Roll are captured at some point; Dr. Light builds Alt and sends her off to rescue them. Alt was based off of Megaman and Roll's schematics, making them her parents in a sense.

It was also RS-MM-influenced--or maybe it was actually set in the RS-verse, but all the art I saw for the RP suggested "Classic". Game-Rock's a bit stronger than human ten-year-olds, so supporting Alt's weight shouldn't be a problem.

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X / Re: Rockman X is Over
« on: September 01, 2012, 06:30:17 PM »
Not to mention, there doesn't seem to have been an MM advert OF ANY KIND after ZX (unless magazine previews count). Capcom can't really whine about MM's low sales when they won't properly advertise the games.

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X / Re: Rockman X is Over
« on: September 01, 2012, 08:40:30 AM »
Fact of the matter is we'll never know why, so arguing about it is pointless.

Yeah, [tornado fang] speculation! Let's just stay in the dark forever and never try to understand anything Capcom does, no matter how moronic their actions seem! Hell, let's never wonder about anything ever!


Anyone else think the situation might've not gotten as bad as it has if Capcom gave us more than vague PR non-answers?

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X / Re: Rockman X is Over
« on: September 01, 2012, 07:48:15 AM »
I honestly have to wonder if a company can suck as badly as Capcom does without doing it on purpose.

I wonder about that, too. It's impossible to please everyone and knowing which suggestions to take can be very difficult, but there's that, and then there's "Capcom Unity only provides the illusion of company-fan relations".

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Off The Wall / Re: Models and Figures
« on: August 31, 2012, 07:35:39 PM »
(and I still stand by the argument he only won the poll because of the drama with L3, and it was the fans sending a message that they wanted Legends. )

...at the risk of sounding like a broken record, a lot of fans who voted legitimately wanted a damn Volnutt figure.

Anyway, it is indeed Classic Megaman. He comes with a very nice Rush and Mettaur, and his proportions seem closer to his MM8 art's.

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: August 31, 2012, 05:28:53 PM »
Thanks. :)



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A while ago, I found this site called Rocktoons; most of the art is from the late '90s to early '00s, and many of the artists (musical, not the other artists who submitted the artwork) are depicted with blank white eyes.

Radix's eyes might've been more inspired by what was in Liz's gallery at the time (2003-ish), but it wouldn't surprise me if Middle School Me went to Rocktoons and I just forgot.

Pic itself was drawn earlier in the month (or maybe last month; it's been sitting on my scanner). Coloured in Photoshop 3.4, with some adjustments (mostly text) in Elements 7.


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I dunno what Classic Zaia and Roll's relationship is, but I get the feeling that it's as dead-ended as their RS counterparts'. (Oh sure, Zaia seems calm now, but wait 'til Megaman comes in to try and shoo him away)

Tried soft-shading in Photoshop 3.4 (used Elements 7 to chop off part of the border, since it was too dark on my main monitor and made the signature illegible), and gave Roll her greenish-aqua dress so that she'd contrast better with Zaia.


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This was several hours worth of work (Photoshop 3.4), not counting the days in-between my drawing Rock's group and adding the others.

"Helper" includes both official and fan-made Support Units, plus an unused one.

Rock's group contains Rush, Eddie, Tango, Mariachi, Kokker (unused bird from MM3), Clarino the bat, Jig the squirrel, and Badinerie the goat (all three fan-made).

* Clarino and Jig would probably look for power-ups and upgrades in places too small for Megaman to enter; Badinerie might charge into enemies. (Speaking of the lattermost--IIRC, his name means "light-hearted")


Beat is with Protoman and Duo; he assists both of them in The Power Fighters.

* Tango is often depicted in fan works as being Protoman's helper when s/he isn't Roll's (thanks to Ariga), and while I like the idea, I ran out of space for Beat/didn't want to put him by Kokker, and so went the game route. Came with the bonus of acknowledging his status as Duo's one-off(?) helper. (As for the "s/he" bit--officially, Tango is male, but in my fanonuity, the cat is female)


Neither Slider nor her cat Sharp are official, but I felt like including them anyway. (It's not in view, but Sharp's tail is twice as long as her[?] body, and has a stabby tip)


Bass got stuck in a support unit sandwich.

* The peacock's name is Kapelle (a musical establishment, usually of a king or other royalty, according to Naxos.com); his tail feathers are for both showing off and deflecting projectiles. Reggae is quite smug over the fact that he can fly and Kapelle can't.

* AFAIK, Drum AKA Wily-Eddie was never actually named, but that's not why he barely qualifies as a Support Unit.

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Off The Wall / Re: Models and Figures
« on: August 31, 2012, 10:00:34 AM »
Who knows; maybe it'll be Ariga Rock or something.

I'm still waiting for Volnutt.

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: August 29, 2012, 04:32:55 AM »
Very cool comission, glowy orbs... o:

Thanks. :)



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We were at my grandparents' house the other day; like on some previous visits, I drew some things.

* One wonders if Wily would ever go back to world domination if that new casino of his never stopped printing money. (Granma enjoys gambling, and Mom was installing a gambling simulator for her)

* Sleeping Rock's face took a few tries to get right...

* The robo-goat wasn't inspired by anything in particular, but there's a painting of a peacock in my grandparents' room--hence the robo-peacock below the goat. (Does Bass get a lot of fan-made helpers?)

* Below the goat and peacock is a rushed Megaman (it was time to leave and I couldn't bring the pencil with me).

* Slider (forgot to add "(C) ~SLiDER-chan") tried to cook something, but it fused itself to the pan.

* I briefly entertained the idea of Protoman and Quakewoman getting along (IIRC before the MM2 arc was finished).

* Finally, there's the only RS-MM-related sketch (contains some MLP:FiM). Proto's making that face not because Rock's attention isn't on him, but because he knows that if Rock became a father, he'd blame himself for every little thing that went wrong. (Plus, he and Fluttershy might not be able to keep the kid)


Posted on: August 28, 2012, 01:48:47 AM

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Next one'll be #40.


* I really like how RS-Roll there turned out, since I was tired when I drew her and yet it didn't look like total crap after I'd gotten some sleep. (That Celtic knot on her shirt, on the other hand...)

* 'twas going to give those two less recolour-y armours, but that didn't pan out.

* Speaking of which, Amp actually got some new armour (but still no helmet. I also just realized that, appearance-wise he's some unholy cross between Bass and Zero)

* I could've sworn I'd drawn Bass Cross Megaman before. (If I did, the first design was likely total crap)

* And now we begin the Hyper Mode count, since I drew a few of them on this page. First is The Primer Chronicles's "knight of Cerberus" (trope, not a literal title), Allegro. He's something of a dickwad. (Hyper count: 1)

* Right next to him is MM7-Treble Boost Bass, or at least the concept version. Frustratingly, it's the only Treble Boost art we seem to have. (Hyper count: 2, if Treble Boost counts. I've noticed that a lot of fan-made Hyper forms are based off of it)

* Super Megaman (as the MMOCW calls him) is harder to draw than previously thought. (I'm not sure if this counts as a "hyper" mode, since there's the Hyper Megaman seen in MvC)

* BnG-Roll's jumpsuit isn't quite the right shade...

* Since Slider's only helper is Sharp, another fan-made 'bot (Reggae apparently takes Beat's place in Rockman and Forte 2 if you're playing as Bass, but inclusion in MMOCW aside, I still suspect that that game is of dubious canon-to-the-mainlines-icity), she has to borrow Treble for this transformation. (Hyper count: 3)

* And there's Hyper Roll, looking down at Techno in confusion. (Hyper count: 4)

* I was told that the name "Luka" is rather outdated. Goes with his sense of fashion, I guess.

* It's not often that I draw characters in swimwear. (Roll does have a proper swimsuit, but it was too generic for me)

* Man, DOES CW-Topman have purple eyes, or are my own eyes playing tricks on me?

* I don't think Dante could do that in her first(?) fight with Bass. (Hyper count: 5)

* There's lots of Rhythms out there, and this version isn't the only one with that same shade of blue hair.

* I never saw Jazz with a helper, so I'm not sure how she got her Hyper mode. (Hyper count: 6)

* Yeah, methinks Sailor Moon's upgrade should be a bit more impressive than that...

* That sphere on the end of Sailor Mega's staff is supposed to be a compressed arm-cannon-thing.

* May, what happened to your anatomy? D: (I was tired, and it shows)

* I know nothing about Kosa, to be honest; I just found her(?) sprite sheet whilst going through The People's Sprites gallery (via The Wayback Machine; the site's still hacked)

* The spiky trash can doesn't seem to have a name beyond "purple thing", so I refer to him as Drum. He's an "anti-power-up-dispensing robot", which I guess means he's completely useless unless someone gets stuck on his spikes.

* Apparently I'd been colouring Rhythm's eyes the wrong colour for a while...

* Gave the other Jazz on this page a colour change, and tried to make her look more like a fennec fox.

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: August 26, 2012, 03:51:41 AM »
Now if only Knightman turned out to be a lady, too...



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Commission by ~Benji-Blacksky of one of his characters.

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he's the most marketable because he is the most recognized character in the entire franchise, save for maybe Zero. Classic Mega Man is the Franchise Mascot, and Was at least- Capcom's Mascot when they still gave a [parasitic bomb].

Thinking about it--Capcom didn't specify that they had no real mascot until AFTER Megaman got pulled through the wringer, right?

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If he's ever in some game, I want him to be an narcissist, due to his pretty boy looks

Funny you should write that directly underneath my art; I see him as being fairly flamboyant and show-offy.

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: August 24, 2012, 03:30:05 PM »
Chibi Rock: *fidget*



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[Centaurwoman likes you?] That information may be false.

It's weird to think that an official female RM existed long before Splashy or even Virgo (if you assume that Roll doesn't count)--alas, Centaurwoman only existed in the Ikehara continuity.

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Oh Bass, you're such an [dark hold]. (You too, Techno.)

Rock and Roll VS the Wonder Twins; who will emerge victorious?


(Answer: Dr. Light and his rolled-up newspaper.)


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(I started this when I was incredibly tired, and resumed after I'd slept most of the day)

I think I'm getting attached to these two (and old-school Slider, but I dunno how ~SLiDER-chan feels about people drawing her these days), to be honest. Of course, not being a regular reader of Bob and George and its sub-comics, I dunno exactly where this pairing originated (The Primer Chronicles, maybe?).


Posted on: August 21, 2012, 10:41:02 PM

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*looks at the date p. 14 was uploaded on* Yeah, I think it's safe to say that there's no real update schedule. (I sorta lost motivation to work on this for a while)

Did Auto break the laws of physics in that third panel?


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I'd drawn this when I needed sleep, and intended to colour it later, but that got put off.

Mostly Archie-based (Rock's not wearing his stomping boots, and Protoman hasn't yet been shown in anything but his armour). I have to wonder when these four will be interacting with each other in-comic.

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What one word did Gonzo take offense to?

I've long since dropped the matter, so don't worry about it.

As for Capcom...I'm honestly not sure what we should do. They only seem to listen to whoever throws the most money at them, but at the same time, the MM fans aren't being given as many chances to hand them our money as the SF or RE guys. What we're getting is either too expensive (like, $200+), or not very good, or both.

(Sorry if what I'm saying is obvious and redundant.)

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Most of your posts have been coming across as deliberately inflammatory...but I get visibly angry at you once or twice, and I'm the one who needs to go sit in the corner?

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It's funny to see that from you, the one who threw a bitchfit over a simple word.

All I was doing was posting my opinion. Is that now allowed now?

That "simple word" was a pejorative and you were clearly using it as such.

I wouldn't mind you voicing your opinion if you weren't being such an unlikable dick about it.

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Because why should Capcom be held accountable for what it's done lately?


AA, shut up.

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