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How'd that happen? They not like your pictures?

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 16, 2009, 05:23:09 AM »
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Speaking of which... Since Zero and Iris are "revived" now... Anything?

Not really. She hasn't forgotten what he's done.


Another scrap, this one from 2004. A.k.a. "when RADIX thought Megaman lived in a dictatorship". (Which was more my crappy-writer ideas than a misconception)


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Experimented with putting Mega in different games. (The first just being a schoolgirl uniform. Seems everyone gets put in one some time. Maybe he's in a porn game?)


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One of *StephODell's recent pics reminded me that I sometimes drew Protoman with an eyepatch. So...


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"It's me, Pudding! ..no, you did not eat me for dessert!"


This and Proto's eypatch were drawn in art class. I like those pens the teacher gave me. :)


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By now, half the planet's genderbended these two.

...Honestly, I could've just changed Zero's eyes and claim he was female, but you know me. Male robot + boobs and nothing else = fail.


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They appeared in that "flashback" in the last cutscene of MM8. I had names for them at one point, but I've lost them. Something Icelandic, maybe? (Because German, French, and Italian are overused.)


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Is giving the human Eva pilots "busters" a good idea? NERV will just have to wait and find out.

(Spoilers: no.)


Rei was always one of my favourites, but I didn't know she was supposed to be "creepy" until much later. (The shoulder of doo was drawn with Samus Aran in mind; supposedly, those huge shoulders relieve the pressure of the arm cannon's weight)


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"R" standing for "Rockoution". I'M SO CLEVER HUURRR

The robot pilots' Evas, all based on their armours and the canon Evas. (Designing Evas is a [sonic slicer].) The problem is, unlike the others, the robot pilots' Evas aren't their moms; they're more like the mass-produced Evas. Everyone knows they were so nice and friendly in End of Evangelion...

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: September 16, 2009, 04:05:44 AM »
http://web.archive.org/web/19990210073531/http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4611/ - Not updated since '97.

Getting off the subject of old websites--does anyone remember the old fanon names for the X5 Mavericks (ex: Tidal Whale, Burn T.Rex--thanks, Mr. Shin), or any other fanon names for bosses or characters before their respective games came out? (I remember reading that early MM3 previews called Protoman "Bruce", but sadly, the Megaman Library had no evidence...)

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: September 16, 2009, 03:14:20 AM »
Did you try archive.org on all of them?

Archive.org hates Geocities.

Really, I was just focused on the sites that were still up. I checked some others, and there was nothing interesting there. I'll look some more in a bit.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: September 16, 2009, 02:56:17 AM »
I never did find Proto in MM6...that EB would've helped out. Selfish bastard! XD

As for the sites...I think I'm really grasping at straws here.

http://us.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/1361/joel_mega_man_home_page.html Hasn't been touched since 1997. Oddly, Protoman is listed as both an ally and an enemy of Megaman; they also claim that Sigma built all the Mavericks.

http://us.geocities.com/megajosh30/main.html God knows when this place was updated (the "Stories" section only goes up to Legends 1, so that's a hint). States that Dr. Wily attacked people with his robots long before Protoman was built (did they confuse the Classic series with The Protomen?).

"Megaman Central" - I don't have the link (it's dead anyway), but I do remember it stating that Megaman and co. lived in "Giga City" (did Capcom ever name the place where they live?).

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/7968/home.htm - MegaMan 2000. It looks like it's got some good stuff on there, but it's all in Spanish (the English section of the site is completely different). Seems to only go up to MMX6.

Not really old, but there's still some great stuff on here (a lot better than what I've dredged up): http://megaman.robotvaudeville.com/ Gotta love how NP mispells the Fake Bad of MM4's name as "Cassock", and how Gamefan theorized that Double would be playable in X4. Yeah. DOUBLE.


Most of those links came from the Megaman Homepage. There were quite a few broken links in the "Classic" section...

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 16, 2009, 01:04:38 AM »
I always found it interesting that Roll is not meant for combat and yet is capable of vacuuming up cannon shots...

She got creative with her existing capabilities. Rock had squat.

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:53:35 AM »
I forget, why didn't she become MegaWoman that time MegaMan went to the future for no reason?

No time? She did get that awesome toaster cannon, though. That has to count for something.

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:42:01 AM »
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and at the same time wondering if the "anything not game/Ariga is hell" people need to be careful what they're wishing for.
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we could have very well wound up with two seasons of MM8-level performances had the company tried to match voices to it.

Oh yes. D:

Reminds me of the OVA English dub. It's kind of...eh. Proto's voice makes me wish they'd let Mr. McNeil voice him as well, squishy game design or no.

Though his Japanese voice is even more ridiculous.

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Instead, Ruby-Spears decided to end it series, due to their bankruptcy after 1996, this pretty upset the fans back then.

If I remember correctly, Bandai/Capcom were the ones to pull the plug, because sales from other lines were doing badly.

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Fan Creations / Re: Rebirth of the Rockman-Themed Stolen *Bleep* Thread!!
« on: September 15, 2009, 10:51:11 PM »
Indeed.



By Todd18.

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Fan Games / Re: Mega Girl Roll W.I.P.
« on: September 14, 2009, 11:20:09 PM »
ALSO, i dont know if you people thinked seriously about this, but, im still need to replace the space left by card woman, so please, any suggestions?

Why not my version of Honeywoman? :)

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 14, 2009, 04:37:21 AM »
I meant how RS would have handled his character. as Im pretty sure He might have the same personality that proto has in it.

You'd want the same character twice, then? (Then again, I think non-combatant hacker Bass would've made the whiners spontaneously combust.)

also, its because of the aformentioned "he came out of the game" that people dont mind. Its a different scenario. the very beginning of the OVA has Megaman in the game going through all the stages and beating the bosses. RS was "in universe" so to speak.

I still don't get it; different scenario or not, it's still a damned big change. Nowhere was it indicated in the game canon that the series took place in the "Game World". You'd think the fans would be bothered by it, at least.

In all honesty, I think it's just the fans saying, "Who cares how inaccurate it is? IT'S JAPANESE! *annoying pseudo-Japanese noises of happiness*"

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 14, 2009, 04:14:39 AM »
i cant see whats so bad about a fantasy setting such as that. a kids videogame character coming out of the TV. remember it was supposed to be simple, and sweet. and the story was simple. it would be too convoluted if they came up with some complicated explanation for WHY he came out of the TV.

It's not the setting that bugs me (even if "so-and-so comes in and out of a TV" is a plot that rubs me the wrong way). See, it's a HUGE deviation from the games, something that a lot of Megaman fans hate, but they don't complain about it. Ruby-Spears, though? About the worst that they did was make Protoman evil, and yet those same fans are all, "WHAT? PROTOMAN IS A GOOD GUY YOU IGNORANT PRICKS! BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWW!!"

...By that logic, people should be constantly flaming me for all the concepts I've written about, because I'm an American and Americans are not allowed to soil the sacred name of Megaman (or Rockman, since a lot of the whiners also strike me as weeaboos) with their own ideas.

I woul have LOVED to see RS Bass. now THAT would be hilarious. At least Subtank made RS Zero.

What about my RS-Bass? :/

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 14, 2009, 03:51:49 AM »
Edit:
I just noticed that everyone is talking about the OVA. Seriously? I didn't think it was possible to be more entertained by that boring-ass Japanese culture lesson than by the hilariously awesome RS cartoon. I mean, the action scenes rocked, but not so much the parades and stuff.

Not to mention, for all the changes the Ruby-Spears cartoon made, the OVA made more. "Hey guys! Let's make Megaman a video game character in-universe and have him pop out of the TV for no adequately explained reason! And let's have two Japanese kids push him around and make him wait during the entirety of the first episode even when he's badly hurt! That's totally like the games!"

It's not, and yet it generally gets a free pass. Glaaaaaa.

See, this is a double-standard to me.  Megamix, like Ruby Spears, "toughened up" the game designs.  Megamix just left Rock and Roll as kids, but the art style and overall theme to the story are a good deal darker than the games.

Why is it that the Japanese can make an arseload of changes to Megaman and have them accepted without question, but the Americans (and Brazilians) can't so much as miscolour someone without the fandom going "THIS IS A TRAVESTY TO CANON! BAAAWWW!"?

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 14, 2009, 02:12:05 AM »
Eh, the only thing about it that bugged me was how easily Abe died...and those meat grinders. D:

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 14, 2009, 01:17:47 AM »

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Began as a CG test based off a sketch of a friend of ~whitmoon's (Sakiko or Subaki, I think--she runs a site called IK3). Then I threw Abe in. Yes, Abe, from the Oddworld series; I watched Mom play the first game when I was younger.

This also has to do with a dream I had recently. In it, Abe was wandering about a place that looked like a fusion between my old neighborhood and Oddworld. Every once in a while, the scene would change, Abe would look different, and a robotic voice would say, "You could become a catalyst", intercut with images of a giant red gemstone floating in a column of light.

...yeah.

Megaman's just following Abe around, really; he's not familiar with Oddworld. (It takes place during the X series, since I've crossed Classic over with so many things already)

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 13, 2009, 09:54:51 PM »
And there were. :)


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The Reploids who survived the flood. While fortunate to have done so, there's nothing left for them on the Earth's husk.


Sorry if the file's huge, but after saving it in JPEG format, I noticed that I'd forgotten to write some of their names. D: Saving in JPEG format twice, an ugly picture makes.

Some notes:

* Marc is the only "child Reploid" left; Pro and Pan took care of him for a while.

* The Biometals did have their bodies restored some time in between ZXA and now. Their armours were based on their Biometal/Megamerged forms.

* Anastas and Yves used to be prisoners; the former is familiar with the term "Megaman". Hmm...

* Polyphema claims that she was once the rival of Kyuubit Foxtar.

* The other two Animaloids were based on unused Zero-era boss designs.

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 13, 2009, 08:29:33 PM »
I heard that Mandi wasn't willing to share the promo beyond those screenshots, so I think asking her for it would be moot.

And I still think that the original art style would've attracted a huge female audience and get the show retooled. A Megaman shoujo series without a flowery art style...that'd be interesting.

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: September 13, 2009, 04:47:31 PM »
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Not all of these are really from "the day", some were just poorly made.  Anything from 2002 forward was not back in the "dark ages".  And much of the info from the 90's was VERY innacurate and more in the spirit of the thread.

Those were the oldest I could find, sadly; I remember one site with a date earlier than 2000, and...there was nothing on it. (I think it might've been another neglected RPG.)

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And some of these links are now broken links ... bandwidth maybe?

The hell? I thought I typed everything properly...

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I thought it was important enought to give her her own section.

I didn't notice that. XD


With Gauntlet's words in mind, I'll be searching for even older sites. Which turned out far less successfully than hoped. Closest I got was this: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Station/3196/Mega-Sonic.html (By the way, what were your old theories like?)

Edit: http://maelgrim.tripod.com/Rockman1.html - Found Maelgrim's site.
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/2944/ - Looks like M. Sipher's page (pre-King Weasel Productions?), but I don't think he ever went by "dix" (the e-mail address given).

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 13, 2009, 05:09:26 AM »

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Search all you want, Proto. You'll never find it. (That's just a stripe down the front of Mega's Zero Suit.)





Off-topic, but someone once described RS-Protoman as "spoiled". I dunno, he always came off as more "obsessed/slightly ax crazy" to me. :/

As for the AT/F thread...
It's pretty daunting. >0<

Is that why no one's replied yet? Or do I just have really shitty timing?

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 12, 2009, 04:59:27 PM »
I wonder if they ever made Shinji wear a test plugsuit?

AT/F threa has been updated (for a while, actually, but no one's looked at it yet).

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Rockman Series / Re: Ancient Theories/Fanon
« on: September 12, 2009, 03:57:59 PM »
I'll go with the Master being an alien (but still human), myself.


I've spent two days lurking around Angelfire, after finding out that it had a search function (something Tripod doesn't seem to have. One point for Angelfire!). My goal? To find as much old Megaman stuff as possible, be it minor or major. (Which, admittedly, is less "theories" as it is "they didn't even care when they wrote this") Turns out there was a lot of interesting material there, amongst all the RPGs that weren't updated since the day they went up and horribly designed pages, the only purpose of which seemed to be to murder my eyes.

http://angelfire.com/theforce2/megaman/ - Claims Protoman was brainwashed by Dr. Wily.

http://mmxz.zophar.net/ - Not on Angelfire, but found though it. Apparently confuses Protoman's personality with Bass's.

http://angelfire.com/wv/sOnIc/mm.html - Bungles the plots of MM3-6 and 8 (slightly; "EVIL" wasn't really a spirit). Would you have ever guessed that Protoman was the Big Bad of MM6? 8D

Quoted in case the site ever goes kaput:
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Megaman III -  NES, Game Boy, PC

Not again. Dr. Wily doesn't know when to give up. Can Megaman defeat him again, This time, Megaman will have a little help from his new dog, Rush, and his best friend, Roll.

Megaman IV - NES, Game Boy

Will Dr. Wily ever give up or is he going to create these robots till the end of time? Megaman must go defeat even harder robots like Toad Man and Dive Man and Skull Man and make the world a safer place.

Megaman V - NES, Game Boy

Dr. Wily has created a brother for Megaman named Protoman. Sometimes, Protoman will help Megaman. Others, he will try to defeat Megaman as much as possible. Can Megaman defeat both Protoman and Dr. Wily?

 Megaman VI -  NES

Dr. Wily strikes again, and so does Protoman. But, Megaman has more help this time. Megaman will use Beat, his pet bird, to get to places and use Rush as super armor.

http://angelfire.com/mb/megaman1/ - Confuses Megaman with X. Lots of horrible low-res pics and animated sprites on crack.

http://angelfire.com/mo/giants/ - Mentions Metool's Megaman Rockworld, Mega Boy's Megaman Homepage, and Realm of Megaman X--all defunct.

http://angelfire.com/ultra/megamanworld/ - Has a page devoted to the RM3/MM3 prototype.

http://angelfire.com/ult/ace/batton.html - Details the creation of a newsprint Battonton; there's more on the site itself.

http://angelfire.com/ex/megazero/ - Claims X is Mega, without giving any evidence. (Something quite a few people on Angelfire did, actually. Megaman-is-X, supergifs, and grainy official art were all recurring themes)

http://angelfire.com/dragon/megamanbass/ - Devoted to Megaman and Bass; refers to King as "King Robot".

http://angelfire.com/games/calc/mm.txt - Description of a calculator fangame.

http://angelfire.com/games/megaman1/infopage.html - Says Protoman "vanished in an accident" and was "tricked" by Dr. Wily (Wily didn't trick him; Proto was just grateful). Also uses a pic of Volnutt in reference to the original Megaman (which Cannon Spike also did...).

http://angelfire.com/games5/gizmonics/ - "Megaman X Nightmare" demo; the link to the demo doesn't work.

http://angelfire.com/nt/okenet/rockdata.html - Uses Megamix pixel art; their data is off. Just read Elecman's bio.

http://angelfire.com/games3/mmx0/comics.html - Contains info on the series up to Zero. (Only once did I see ZX mentioned on all of Angelfire)

http://angelfire.com/biz4/t87megaman/index.html - Vile X Lab. Closed.

http://angelfire.com/comics/mmo3/ - A fan comic with original designs.

http://angelfire.com/anime5/megaman-zero-project/ - Creates a factless story about Protoman's presence in the X series. (I don't remember if it was a fanfic-oriented site or giving the "facts")

http://angelfire.com/comics/tamm/ - A strange sprite comic with awful grammar.

http://angelfire.com/falcon/favoritestuff/ - Arbitrarily connects Ruby-Spears Megaman with Astro Boy. (OK, Classic I could understand...but RUBY-SPEARS?!)

http://angelfire.com/rpg2/megamanultama/ - Contains a few fangames. (I didn't test them to see if they still worked)

http://angelfire.com/hero/protozero/ - An odd sprite comic; plot feels very DBZ-ish, from what I read of it.

http://angelfire.com/anime5/thelair/mmarchive.html - Detailed site; includes info on the Jazwares figure and the Ruby-Spears production (which is really just his two cents on both matters, but no one else was talking about them...)

http://angelfire.com/games3/megamanX/ - Claims Protoman was the Big Bad of MM4. (I can't get the link to work, so don't bother with it. You'll just get 404'd.)

http://angelfire.com/me4/fanworks/mfw/main.html - Contains a translation of the X5 manga (no scans, just text).


All in all, I've got a slightly better idea of what the fandom looked like back then...at least on Angelfire. (R.I.P., Geocities) Whaddya think? (By the way, I wouldn't have touched this thread again if Vixy hadn't said it was all right. Thank you <3 )

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Rockman Series / Re: Unaired Ruby-Spears Megaman Episode?
« on: September 12, 2009, 03:15:06 PM »
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Astro Boy was popular in its day.

Regardless, by the time Generation Y came about, the show was FORTY YEARS OLD. As good as it was, I don't think kids in the 90s would've had much interest in it. (And before you bring up old Looney Tunes shorts, LT was something completely different)

And the reason that Ruby-Spears changed the designs wasn't because they were a bunch of pricks, but because the game designs tested poorly with test audiences. They didn't have much of a choice. And even if they didn't redesign anyone, the writing would still be the same.

...Someone please find evidence of an unaired episode/s so we can stop going back and forth on this matter. ;_;

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Fan Creations / Re: The Gonzo has art.
« on: September 12, 2009, 05:00:36 AM »
Nostalgic for you, maybe, but quite a bit of my old art makes me gag. Almost all I drew in middle school was Sonic wangst. :(

I'm thinking about updating the Ancient Theories/Fanon thread, if Vixy gives the okay. Found a lot of hilarity on Angelfire.



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Fan Creations / Re: Rebirth of the Rockman-Themed Stolen *Bleep* Thread!!
« on: September 11, 2009, 11:41:24 PM »
Well, now that that's hopefully over...



Found on an Angelfire site; it didn't seem to be that of the original artist. I'd like to know who made this.

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