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Entertainment / CLCBG Episode 10 - Who Gets All The Chicks?
« on: April 30, 2011, 11:04:10 AM »
Episode 10 of The Curious League of Comic Book Geeks is now available for your listening pleasure. Enjoy!
Well truthfully I am more of a Superman fan than a Batman fan, which is why I was disappointed with Superman Returns so much. Instead of trying to reinvent the franchise like Nolan did with Batman, they went back to an already bad storytelling movie universe. Mind you, I actually think Returns is a good movie, in terms of its quality and for the most part its story and what it was trying to convey, but the problem is the movie universe itself isn't very good, which is why I'm glad they are taking a lesson from Nolan's movies and letting him write the new Supes movie. Yeah, Secret Origins would make an absolutely fantastic foundation for a Superman movie, and Nolan might use elements from it. We shall see.
Your brief analysis of Richard Donner's Superman movie gave me something to contemplate over for the past few days and I had to (painfully) admit: the film wasn't "good" from a storytelling perspective. Well, I believe that the scenes involving Krypton and Smallville were well-executed but lacking. The third act is where it came apart because of the conflict between Superman and Luthor. Luthor simply had no motivation for hating Superman, nor did his plan to sink California make any sense whatsoever but then I have to remind myself that the movie was produced in the 1970s, so it took plot cues from Superman's Silver Age when Lex would create some weird gizmo to menace the Man of Steel despite the sheer implausibility of the premise. I suppose I'm more forgiving of that because I grew up reading my mothers Superman/Action/Adventure Comics from the sixties (which explains my love for the Legion of Super-Heroes.) But ye gads, I do hate Otis and Ms. Teschmacher with a passion.
I do still disagree with your assessment being not that great. However, most of them were inconsequential like Glenn Ford's Pa Kent and Jackie Cooper's Perry White. Margot Kidder on the other hand, I thought she made a fantastic Lois Lane (at least the pre-CoIE version) and that she had good chemistry with Reeve.
I will put it on record that Tim Burton's Batman as well as the Nolan films were fantastic and surpassed Donner's Superman on a technical and storytelling level but I never latched on to Batman as a kid. Maybe I would be singing a different tune if my mom bought me Batman pajamas when I was five, and if she read Batman/Detective instead. Come to think about it, was Burton's Batman appropriate for young children? (I was five when it was released in theatres, so I was watching more Disney and less live action.) I remember the film giving me the willies in second grade.
Also of note: wouldn't Superman: Secret Origin make a good foundation for a Superman movie? If only I had a time machine then I would give 1976/77 Richard Donner a copy. Doubly ironic considering how Geoff Johns was his protege.
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Well truthfully I am more of a Superman fan than a Batman fan, which is why I was disappointed with Superman Returns so much. Instead of trying to reinvent the franchise like Nolan did with Batman, they went back to an already bad storytelling movie universe. Mind you, I actually think Returns is a good movie, in terms of its quality and for the most part its story and what it was trying to convey, but the problem is the movie universe itself isn't very good, which is why I'm glad they are taking a lesson from Nolan's movies and letting him write the new Supes movie. Yeah, Secret Origins would make an absolutely fantastic foundation for a Superman movie, and Nolan might use elements from it. We shall see.
