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Entertainment / Re: New Thundercats HO
« on: July 25, 2011, 08:41:38 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NukNBlpEpGM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

FOUR MORE DAYS! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!  8)

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Fan Creations / Re: No Man's Land
« on: July 25, 2011, 01:26:27 AM »
Well hey there, it's very nice to see your art thread again.

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Looks awesome to me!

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Gaming / Re: hey rpm lets discuss this game
« on: July 24, 2011, 07:39:19 AM »
I wonder how much this game will cost to play.

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So happy you're back DW.

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM
« on: July 23, 2011, 09:38:17 AM »
Oh, Spider-Man easily has one of the best origin stories in all of comic books. The problem a lot of people have is that you're not telling this origin story to a new audience. You're telling it to the exact same audience again. This is not to say that the movie is going to be bad, cause it could very well wind up being better than the Tobey ones. It's just that the trailer has not really impressed people all that much.

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Original / Re: How will the series end?
« on: July 23, 2011, 09:21:52 AM »
9 could have done without reusing 2's music.

It was an homage to it. That's all.


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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread
« on: July 23, 2011, 08:07:25 AM »
I saw this info and thought I should share it, in spoiler form...

(click to show/hide)

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Curious:

Would anyone like this on the Wii U instead of the 3DS?

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Original / Re: How will the series end?
« on: July 23, 2011, 07:46:17 AM »
Honestly, 9 and 10 are fantastic for what they were, and they could continue to make 11 that way and I'd be happy.

BUT, to ignore the other franchises like this is kinda sad. I'd love to see a high def X9.

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM
« on: July 23, 2011, 07:42:00 AM »
...am I the only one tired of Spidey's intoduction story? How many times do I have to see Uncle Ben Dying!? Also The Cap looks interesting.

Honestly, you're not alone. A lot of people do not want them to do his origin story yet again.

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General / Re: Change my nickname, please
« on: July 22, 2011, 09:22:12 PM »
Welcome back Sky!

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM
« on: July 22, 2011, 09:17:42 PM »
Oh definitely. For someone who's never read a Cap comic, it's a fantastic introduction to the character!

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM
« on: July 22, 2011, 10:01:37 AM »
Just got home from seeing Captain America. It was really well done. I immensely enjoyed it! Bravo Marvel. Freedom prevailed!

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: July 22, 2011, 09:46:57 AM »
I haven't been around this board for months. Other responsibilities pulled me in other directions, and eventually this just became an outlet to vent nerd rage, often when I was already frustrated at something else. My apology. I don't expect anyone has missed me too much anyway.

Old habits die hard, so I'm driven to say this to you, the only ones I think might understand. I think I've outgrown Mega Man. I've come to accept that Mega Man will not become what I want it to be, and that there are better things I can be doing with my time than spending time debating its loose fiction and encouraging hopes that lead so often to disappointment. That is not a slight on any of you who still wish to do such things. If it can still be just as fun for you as it once was for me, more power to you.

Capcom's latest antics with pulling out of both Legends 3 and Universe is making walking away all the easier. I admit I didn't participate in the Devroom. I've been too busy to, and I don't have the talent to enter all their art contests to begin with. I still thought it was a great effort on Capcom's part, but I somehow just couldn't quite believe it. Sure enough, my doubts are fulfilled. I went to Capcom-Unity today to see the mess that has become of this franchise. Ironically, you can still join the Devroom and get a Servbot number, even after the project is pronounced dead. I am number 4245. Some good that does.

Mega Man will limp on, in a few months to a year we'll have new Mega Man game announcements. Fan rage will blow over and life will go on. If you guys stick around that long, I'm sure it'll come. But me, I just don't care anymore.

Farewell, old friends.

Well I always enjoyed reading your debates and such, so farewell to you MM!

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: July 21, 2011, 09:27:58 PM »
Yeah, the fact that every time Capcom comes out with a new excuse we find a way to prove it wrong says something.

This is definitely out of spite.

Okay, lets not go crazy. There's no way this is out of spite. It's mainly a marketing decision, like Ramzal and I said.

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Well that's good to hear.

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To be honest, I kinda expected this. It's sad that they have to do this at their Comic Con booth, because these people have nothing to do with the Legends 3 decision.

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: July 21, 2011, 08:28:54 PM »
So the only way Capcom could have done things right would to have never have announced the game at all / never developing the Devroom / just stop talking about the project. But also, as we are on the subject of getting ones hopes up, do you think that some (I said SOME not all) of it could be on the individual? Possibly by overhyping the game itself simply because it was coming out, rather than being slight carefull....and NOT buying a 3ds just because of this game maybe coming out? Doesn't that aspect of fault lay on the consumer?

Not at all. You do it like most game companies do, as in announce that a game is being made then make people wait in anticipation and maybe give them a little bit here and there if they need to, like a trailer and what not. This game literally did everything in its power to get fans involved in its creation, which is what got people's hopes up. The whole "We're definitely making this and you're going to help!" mantra that was announced at the NYCC last year. People not buying a 3DS having to do with sales is also not the fault of the consumer regarding the release of this game, cause for some, many were waiting for a good reason to buy the 3DS (some were even waiting for this game to come out). I mean, the original DS took a good 6 months to a year or longer before it became the powerhouse seller that it was.

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: July 21, 2011, 08:08:36 PM »
So, lemme see if I can get this right. If Capcom would have said something either along the lines of : "We do not believe that attempting to bring Megaman Legends to a green light would make sufficient profit for us, and it's too risky." Or "We had predicted there would be more users than the number we received in the Dev rooms... So based on those numbers we can't justify a sequel." That wouldn't have pissed fans off?

No, that still would have pissed people off immensely because of the all the effort they put into pumping the game up like they did and getting everyone's hopes up. Plus, using Devroom numbers to justify sales is extremely poor business planning.

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: July 21, 2011, 07:54:06 PM »
Yes. And that could have gotten people laid off if the game did not sell well. Okay people, I know I may not get the response I'm looking for but I'm going to ask it anyway. Is the few hours of entertainment, Megaman therioes, and buster shooting that much more important to you than peoples jobs?

I said it before and I'll say it again. Megaman doesn't carry enough marketing weight to sell enough copies and at the very least break even with the costs of making a game for the 3ds. The 3ds alone is a risky business venture because of how much that tech costs and not too many people have bought them. (Yes, I understand that a lot of people bought them, however they don't fly off shelves and print money) For them to do what you want, they need to put their business AND their employees at risk so YOU can have a few hours of entertainment and HOPE that people buy at least 2 million copies of the game to break even with the costs of production, pr, and development. Look, I get that you guys love Megaman and thats fine and all. But you love him that much to put a company at risk? Jobs at risk?

Honestly, none of us have an actual right to be fuming mad at the news. None of us have put money into development of the game, so none of us have the say in what makes it to the market. Also: I will say this. The cancelation of this game has nothing to do with "Megaman isn't western enough." It simply will not sell very well. I mean, the reason Psychonauts (The awesome game that it was) didn't see a sequel was because it did not sell well. 50: Cent Bulletproof sold well. So from a marketing standpoint it would be too risky for them to make another one. Honestly guys. Do you think it's THAT worth it?

Honestly, I don't believe people's issue with this is the just the cancellation itself. Like I said before in the other thread, it's one thing to just be lied to or not even lie but just come to a financial decision. If they were just say "We have plans to make a new MegaMan Legends 3 game" and then after this long cancel it because of marketing & sales issues, people would be upset, but not on this level. Why I think people are so upset is that they did everything in their power to pump this game up and get fans hopes up, with contests, votes, the Devroom, and so on. Then, they say stuff like "Sales of the Prototype will determine if we make this game" which in itself is a dick move especially since they were going to charge for it. But people still went along with that and then even before the demo came out, they just outright cancel the game.

Like you said, Legends 3 was a financial question mark since its announcement, cause personally I didn't believe it would sell that well either. In regards to that, I have little problem with it being canceled, cause it's the same reason why I'll most likely never see a Power Stone 3. However, the way Capcom went about this whole thing is douchebaggery on a scale I don't think I've ever seen from a company. Like I said in the other thread, the best equivalent I can think of is if for 8 months Nintendo continued the Smash Bros Dojo info dump, and then just simply cancel the game. (I'm not comparing Smash Bros sales to Legends sales. Just using an example.)

As for putting the company at "financial risk" for making this game, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that one. One bad or poor selling game will not cripple a company, especially a company that just announced an Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 game for $40 after people literally just spend $60 on the previous game not even that long ago. They know everyone who played the first is buying the second, and probably more than that as well. Capcom clearly has their cash cow games ready, so taking a risk on Legends 3 would not have cost them all that much. Plus, when you douchebaggily [acid burst] off a fanbase like this enough to get them to want to boycott your company, you run the risk of people losing their jobs anyway (I doubt people will actually boycott, but just saying is all).

For me, I can understand the cancellation. However, the way they went about the whole thing was downright sinister. To get fans hopes up like that and then crush them over a financially questionable game is really an awful business tactic, especially when you hear all the stuff coming out about how they never had plans to make it, or when you now hear CapcomEuro saying that the fans were at fault for it not being made. When you treat your loyal, sometimes overly loyal, fanbase in this manner, that's when you get them wanting people to lose their jobs. People absolutely have a right to be "fuming mad" over the way they were treated throughout this whole thing. They don't have a right to personally attack Capcom's servers or anything stupid like that. However, they do have a right to voice their opinion though and let Capcom know that they do not like to be treated in this manner, and whether that's by sending them e-mails, posting on Capcom Unity, boycotting their games, sending lots of snail mail letters, or what have you, people still do have that right. If anything, judging by how many gamers are actually pissed by this, and not just the people on the MM forums and such, this game possibly had a bigger market than Capcom realized.

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Gaming / Re: Legend of Zelda - The official Zelda thread
« on: July 21, 2011, 06:56:22 AM »
I still love that song!

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Fan Creations / Re: Quickie's Stuff.
« on: July 21, 2011, 06:12:52 AM »
You should design your own Lightsaber, Quickie! Also, nice t-shirt.

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.........I gotta say, that's damn impressive!

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Forum Games / Re: "What Are You Thinking Now?"
« on: July 21, 2011, 05:30:07 AM »
This thread is now at sex hundred pages.

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