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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 07, 2012, 07:29:20 AM »
WHOA! That was a hell of an accident. I meant to say

My mistake on that part. Strike that one from the record.  :| I do not like that garbage. (Shows you should proof read, ladies and gentlemen.)

PB, fair enough on the decrease of Peter's intelligence. I think the highest mature decision he's made lately was Spider-Island's "chance" for him to get rid of his powers. And he responded with "Why would I do that? One way or another, these powers are a gift. Getting rid of them would be irresponsible. My uncle raised me better than that."  Again, my bad on that one.

Haha, no worries. Judging by the wording, I knew what you meant. XD

And yeah, that was a good part of Spider-Island. Again, I didn't like it, but it's not even close to being as bad as the worst events. I didn't like Spider-Island because I didn't care much for the story as a whole. But that's a simple matter of one's taste. OMD & OMiT are absolute abominations of not just writing, but total character destruction, all for the glorification of Quesada's moronic ego & ideas. That's the real problem with it. There's no purpose to do it other than because he wants it to be that way, and he has no problem spitting in the face of 20 years of Spider-Man history and fans in order to get what he wants.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 07, 2012, 07:17:06 AM »
The original Spidey comics. My dad & bro collected a lot of comics and I would read them from the beginning to the current. It's how I read the majority of my comics before I started wasting my money & space on my own.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 07, 2012, 06:26:57 AM »
When she supported the idea of him removing his mask, she accepted the fact that she would and could be put in the line of fire. She admitted this in  Amazing Spider-Man 532 page 23. 24, 25. (Depending on where you got your print. (God I am a nerd....super nerd. But I have my stack of comics in order. :P)

"Every day prosecutors and judges and governors and senators go to work. Knowing their loved ones may be jeopardized by their work. But they don't wear masks to work. Do you know why? Because their loved ones want it that way. Because they would rather die than see the fact they love, the face that gives so much to the world, covered in shame. Some things are worth the risk, Peter. You're one of them."

She encouraged him to unmask when he was very unwilling to do so. It is not her fault. No, (Poor choice of words) however she did enable for this to occur even when MJ was on his side about not unmasking at first. May took the risk and she was almost killed over it. In fact, he was ready to withdraw his money and leave instead of unmasking until she stopped him the next morning. His aunt put herself in that situation and gave him bad advice with good intention.

Oh, I know what she said, and again it doesn't matter. Peter was right and if he had half a brain, or was written to have one, none of what Aunt May said should've mattered because he's not a prosecutor, judge, governor, or senator. He's a superhero and he deals with supervillains & psychopaths with super powers AND HE PISSES THEM OFF WHILE KICKING THEIR ASS. Not to mention the fact that the person he cared about and loved the most in the past was not only put in harm's way when his identity was revealed, but she was murdered. Despite what the god awful story writing of that Gwen Stacy event would have you believe, the whole point of her dying was a lesson of how important the mask is. Like the point of DC's Identity Crisis was to show how dangerous it is if someone knows who you are behind the mask, Gwen Stacy's death was the result of what happened when one of the psychopaths he fights found out who he is. Hell, Venom is another lesson in the regard. What made Venom such a dangerous and unique villain is that when he first arrived, he wasn't out for money or power or domination of the city. He just hated Spider-Man and would torture him by threatening his loved ones, and he could do this because HE KNEW WHO HE WAS. No matter what the hell Aunt May said to him, she didn't have to experience what Peter has while fighting these psychos. And it can all be traced back to the simple lesson of Spider-Man itself is that with his power came a responsibility. The mask is not a mark of shame, like she suggests. It's a sign of his responsibility.

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I agree and disagree. When it comes down to it, it was Peter who took the action itself. So we agree there. It was stupid as hell for him to do it, another point we agree on. However, Peter's case was different. He was under the protection of Tony Stark while living in the tower. Tony manipulated him rather than talked to him about it. He used his family against him and put him in the corner. Page 15/16:

"I want you at my side, Peter. But I need you as both Peter...and Spider-Man. Openly. I'm saying that because of my position. I have to make sure everything is on the up-and-up. That means that the only way that Peter Parker can work with me--is if Spider-Man unmasks."

"It's not me asking, Peter. If you DON'T unmask, you'll be like the other powers who defy the law. Wanted criminals. Hunted. Jailed. Not just you, but MJ and your aunt, because they'd be considered accomplices. If you turn against the law, I can't have you with me. I won't be able to protect you...or your family."

He was clearly manipulated and not even given the choice to just give his identity to S.H.I.E.L.D. But rather the choice to either go all in, or be arrested and his family jailed. That gives little to no room but to either run, or fight and be caught and watch his family pay for it. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

Haha, again I know what was said. It's one of the many reasons that I hate Civil War so much, because not only do people act out of character but because it shows Peter as a moron. Again. One, Tony Stark has pretty much never been a model of responsibility, which Peter should've known. Two, that's not a manipulation. It's a threat and Peter should know the difference. He only realized how stupid his decision was after it was too late. Again, no responsibility. Peter is many things, but he's not an idiot and Civil War depicts him as one.

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Agreed. My point is that Peter's reactions to these situations are understandable. Not -correct- but understandable for someone put in the situation when never asked to be. Not that OMIT is great. I'd rather use that as toilet paper rather than...whatever one's select toilet paper may be.

It's really only understandable if you consider how much of a moron Peter was throughout what just happened. He made every stupid decision possible and then wished away his stupidity and made his life better and sparkling fresh again. It undermines everything about the character. There's no responsibility. There's not even really any shreds of intelligence, and Peter is SMART. It's one of the reasons I like him as a character so much, because he's suppose to be responsible and intelligent, and nothing about what he did was that. Aunt May convinced him to do this. Tony Stark convinced him to do that. MJ finally convinced him to make a deal with the devil. What they all have in common is that it was still Peter's decision to make and every time he chose the stupider, less responsible choice. The only reason it's understandable is because at that point the writers made it where he absolutely had no choice AND nothing to lose by doing it and everything to gain.

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Agreed again. I do like what happened in OMIT or OMD, or BND for the most part. I took BND in stride for the sake of the idea of Peter trying to get his life back together...which took too long for Big Time to start and was painful. The Gauntlet however was enjoyable as well as Grim Hunt.  As far as MJ goes, I simply don't think they should have been married at all given her commitment issues and selfish levels of herself.

But you are right, those stories could have happened just as easily WITH them married and it would have meant little difference outside of less Carlie. In which...who really cares about her? I mean...really? Overall can we agree to one point? Joe Quesada should have just stuck to art and drawing rather than involving himself in plot points, writing or character direction? On a different note, I finally got around to reading and finishing Annihilation series... Marvel needs to make more quality like this and no more crap like Fear Itself.

Their marriage, in the long run, was irrelevant. However, what it said to a lot of nerds out there is that if you stick with it, take the hits with some stride and be responsible, you may come out on top. MJ was the hot model that nerds wanted, and that eventually Peter got. Sure, it wasn't done in the best of ways, but the point of it was that she was his rock. She was his reward after all the crap he went through. Not that she's a thing, mind you, but rather that she's who he came home to at night. Yeah, she had commitment issues and was selfish. It's one of the reasons why they actually worked so well as a couple. They could play off each other very well, considering how responsible Peter is.

Regardless, a good writer can easily work around or with something like this. Hell, Spider-Island would've worked better if they were still married, because MJ now gained a much better understanding of what its like to be him and have his power and see him first hand save the city. If they were even separated or divorced, it would've made Spider-Island a lot better because it could've helped on the road to recovery. The point of him not being married to MJ is the same point that created the whole Gwen Stacy bullshit story; they can't make Peter look too old. Carlie is useless and I really don't like her character at all, not to mention I swear she looks different with every artist that draws her. But yeah, Quesada is a horrible writer and doesn't understand Peter's character at all.

And yes, Annihilation is possible my favorite Marvel event. I love Cosmic Marvel so much. Fear Itself was absolutely garbage.

As strange as it sounds, I actually have a fondness for the Clone Saga (despite it being a train wreck) and plan to get all the trades as they come.

Should I have my head checked? :P

To each their own. I wouldn't wipe my ass with it.

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Gaming / Re: The Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Topic (ITS MAHVEL 3 BAYBEE)
« on: February 07, 2012, 05:46:23 AM »
Wow. That was some awesome Spidey use, Ramzal! WEB SWINGERS REPRESENT!

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 07, 2012, 12:32:15 AM »
Comics that remind me of the Clone Saga are always harder for me to judge. Personally, I didn't like it all that much cause I really don't care about the character. Plus I really don't like the new suit. But we'll see where it goes.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 06, 2012, 08:27:06 PM »
No. It was not indirectly her fault for her getting shot. Everything that happened prior to One More Day was 100% his fault. Even with all the pleading in the world from MJ & May, Peter unmasking himself to the world was the absolute stupidest thing he's ever done in his life, because above every other superhero he knows first hand what happens when psychos find out who you are under the mask. First. Hand. And there was NO reason for him to do it. None. At all. The Registration Act just wanted them to reveal their identities to SHIELD & the Govt., not everyone. He should've known EXACTLY what was going to happen when he removed his mask, and it did happen because Marvel decided to make Peter an absolute [tornado fang]ing moron for a stupid event comic.

One More Day is the culmination of about 4-5 years of horrifyingly awful Spidey writing, from the Gwen Stacy thing to the Other to Civil War. It was a perfect exclamation point on the sad sad state of my favorite Marvel hero, a hero so poorly written that in the end it showed he had NO responsibility at all, from moronically unmasking in Civil War for the sole purpose of an event comic to having all his horrifyingly bad writing & problems caused by it magically erased. It undermines everything he was all because of horrible writing, terrible event comics, and Quesada wanting Spidey not to be married.

Spidey comics are indeed a whooooooole lot better now. Sure, I didn't care for Spider-Island that much, but you bring up reasons why you do, which is good. That's what comics are all about. As much as I didn't care for Spider-Island, it doesn't even come close to the god awful Spider-Man comics before One More Day. The fact that they are now better is both good and bad because them being much better is obviously good, what's bad is that them being much better has absolutely NOTHING to do with Peter not being married to MJ. It has more to do with the fact that THEY'RE ACTUALLY WELL WRITTEN COMICS!!!

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Fan Creations / Re: Quickie's Stuff.
« on: February 05, 2012, 07:33:47 AM »
Here's a silver scarab!



Ahhhhh Scarab. One of several bugs I would not screw around with.

Lovely as always!

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM
« on: February 05, 2012, 07:32:51 AM »
Awwww that's a shame. That movie needs to be viewed in better conditions than that.

Last night I saw The Grey, or Wolf Puncher as I've been calling it. However, after seeing it, it's more appropriate title is Wolves [tornado fang] With People. The movie is excellent though.

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Rockman Series / Re: Protoman/Blues MEGA collection
« on: February 05, 2012, 06:23:15 AM »
Beautiful!

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 03, 2012, 03:25:18 AM »
It's more a prequel than a sequel. But I'm going in with an open mind.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: February 02, 2012, 05:53:07 AM »
It could be good. It could also be really bad.

We'll see!

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I'm sure that [dark hold]s can be negative.

Oh, without a doubt! But negativity isn't the case here! XD

I didnt want to just outright say that because y'know, I don't want to sound like an [dark hold] myself... >_>

I have no such problem!  8D

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Gaming / Re: Nintendo Releases New Wii U Details: PB is Pleased
« on: January 28, 2012, 08:13:57 PM »
Be more specific, PB.  *PLEASE NEW STAR FOX THAT ACTUALLY COMPARES TO STARFOX 64.*

WITH A STARFOX SNES STYLE SOUNDTRACK

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WHY must you be so negative all the time...?

He's not being negative. He's being an [dark hold]. There's a difference! XD

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i won't deny it

Nor should you!

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if crack = bad and crack = megaman, then megaman = bad?

cause if so i can only think that capcom has done justice here

Not really. Games, like crack, are drugs and not all drugs are bad. Some are even legal. By your analogy, this is more similar to prohibition, and prohibition, done in the name of justice, is & always will be far worse than drugs.

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Off The Wall / Re: See ya later!/Welcome back!
« on: January 28, 2012, 06:59:46 AM »
Love ya Sky.

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When you're right, you're right.  It's the same as the bull surrounding X and UMvC3.  The fans are on edge, and Capcom basically can do no right until they get a decent core Mega Man game out there.  

This one, though, I can honestly see as hitting too close to home.  The fact that it's BBAMM playable is a direct reference to Universe, and his profile as a "digger" a reference to Legends.  Presumably because this was set up with Inafune in 2010.  That's the whole problem here.  Had Universe and Legends3 come out, this would've been hilariously enjoyable.  But, they didn't, and because they didn't, this is just reminding us of what we lost.  You kinda have to be brain-dead, doubly so on Capcom's end (I could understand the Digger reference flying over Namco's heads), to not see what the problem is, so they come off as clearly not giving a damn.

I don't think Capcom is trolling Mega Man fans at all, but while UMvC3 is a simple matter of "we want what we want and nothing else" from the fans, SFxT is more a matter of sheer negligence on the part of the developers.  I still believe they had good intentions, but...really...

I usually am!  8D

But exactly. Like that one tweet said...

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BBAMM is like an amalgamation of the disappointment that is MMU's/MML3's cancellations & MM's absence from MvC3...

It's not intentional as much as it's just an exclamation point on pretty much everything that pissed fans off last year.



Those are some pubic hairy balls chin he's got going on there! XD

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Gaming / Re: Nintendo Releases New Wii U Details: PB is Pleased
« on: January 28, 2012, 02:32:47 AM »
We'll probably see some games at E3. Well, hopefully anyway.

*PLEASE NEW STARFOX PLEASE NEW STARFOX*

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compensate? capcom doesn't owe you anything and even if they did they don't have to

if they decide to actually release something, you guys who are so deprived will eat it right up

And that right there is what I meant by the more rabid side of fanbases.

To think that a company owes us for screwing us over... Yeah, the fans are indeed what make a company successful, the customers. But just because they cancel a few things doesn't mean they HAVE to do something. At the end of the day, we don't matter to them. They don't care how we feel or what we want; they only care about what makes them money. And in that greed, they're often blinded to the extremely obvious solutions (such as MEGA MAN).

LoL, I love how both of you didn't actually read what I said. I didn't say they owe us compensation. I just said that none was offered and that until they do, the complaining and [acid burst] off-ness of the fans is not going to stop. They can do whatever the [tornado fang] they want.

Like I've said in a previous thread, how Capcom went about the whole PR debacle was the real, non-gaming world equivalent of Jet Blue keeping customers on the tarmac for 9 hours without allowing them to get off the plane. Did Jet Blue have to offer their customers compensation for their [tornado fang] up? No. Did they? Yes! Why? Because it's good business. Again, it's not about the cancellation of the game as much as how they went about it. I mean, can you honestly name another gaming incident like this where a company got their fanbase so involved & so pumped up only to dump them like a prom date after your high school graduation? Cause I can't think of one.

They don't need to calm the fans, as they still buy their games anyway.

Haha, which is the real problem overall. The gaming business world is pretty much like the drug dealing world. You don't have to provide good customer service as much as keep the supply of crack comin' in! XD

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What I mean by the rabid side are those who dismiss any and all new Sonic games because they're not like the classics and rip them to pieces without even giving them a fair chance.

Which is what some of the MM fanbase is doing with anything Capcom does: rip it to pieces without even giving it a fair chance.

There's a huge difference though. Sonic fans were pissed at Sonic games cause they weren't like the classics, but this was developing over years and years of disappointment with the actual games themselves. MM fans are pissed because zero compensation has been offered after their clusterfuck of a PR disaster towards their fanbase/customers. Zero compensation. Through one dicktarded PR nightmare, in the span of a year fans have gone from insanely hopeful to insanely pissed, and it's entirely Capcom's fault for the way they handled things, and there's absolutely no way around that.

Until that's fixed and until Capcom starts showing some shred of compensation for their [tornado fang] up, stuff like this, which should be seen as a humorous gesture, will get people upset. That's all there is to it.

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It's that old? Wow. Time sure does fly indeed!

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but megaman is serious business

Economically speaking, it is. MegaMan is a license, a brand, a product and therefore a part of Capcom's business plan and right now the customer base that buys this product is a little on edge considering everything that happened last year and how awful Capcom's customer service was.

The only real reason that Capcom's customer service doesn't matter is because it's a gaming company and because no matter how pissed people get, they'll still buy their products, to the point where they probably could intentionally troll the fans if they wanted to (which I don't believe is the case here) and in the long run it won't matter.

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Gaming / Re: Nintendo Releases New Wii U Details: PB is Pleased
« on: January 27, 2012, 05:55:29 AM »
Well hopefully they do! Club Nintendo is pretty sweet.

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Only Blues matters, not Blues.EXE.  8D

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