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Fan Creations / Re: Quickie's Stuff.

« on: August 21, 2012, 09:15:09 PM »

I finally saw Avengers (I missed it in theaters due to being poor at the time), and is it just me, or is Sam Jackson really lame in it? It's not his fault, it's just that his lines were so cheesy. But then again, he could've just been really overshadowed by everyone else.

I wanna tell you guys my most favorite line of his I've ever heard in any of his movies, but I just wanna make sure that a spoiler tag makes it appropriate to post, given it is explicit in nature.

Why are you discussing this in Quickie's art topic?

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Fan Creations / Re: Quickie's Stuff.

« on: August 21, 2012, 07:27:59 AM »

Mace Windu's lightsaber is the one with "Bad [chameleon sting]er" engraved on the hilt.

Oh that just gave me a fantastic shirt idea?

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 21, 2012, 07:26:49 AM »

Bad Sonic games do not decrease X7's low quality.

At least you don't have to unlock the main [tornado fang]ing character of the series in any of those games... 

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Gaming / Re: The "What are you currently playing?" Thread

« on: August 21, 2012, 07:24:35 AM »

New Super Mario Bros. 2.

Gold Mario is SEX! 

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Rockman Series / Re: Possible changes for the franchise?

« on: August 21, 2012, 07:18:53 AM »

They need to do what X7 failed at, a full 3D Mega Man on a current gen console. Not a handheld, a console.

It's what almost every other classic franchise from Megaman's time has accomplished, except for him.

Mario, LoZ, Metroid, Sonic, Castlevania... They've all done it successfully. Mega Man had Legends, which was great, but probably too far from the original formula and just didnt sell well apparently. Besides, what is needed IMO, is to bring CLASSIC Mega Man into the third dimension. Not X, not Zero. The original.

Hell, maybe a full on 3D action platformer reboot.

It does need to be on a console, yes. Hopefully all three. However, I think it needs to be a new series with little to no involvement with the classic series. Not that I'd complain about a 3D Classic series game, but I think they only way to bring in new fans is to create something new. Once you get the new fanbase in, then you throw the nostalgia at them and hope they catch on. I think they accomplished that with EXE.

I also think, like EXE, a cartoon to accompany it would be the way to go. Again I'd love for the creators of Avatar to handle a new MM cartoon.

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Off The Wall / Re: Models and Figures

« on: August 21, 2012, 07:10:52 AM »

I'm 19.

I guess i'm just spoiled, then.

Haha, I'm 31 and I still do X-Mas lists cause my father's 63 and still a child at heart!

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Rockman Series / Re: Dtoid: "Rockman is not Going Over; How to Fix Capcom"

« on: August 21, 2012, 07:09:31 AM »

The thing I would fear most with a boycott, is simply, with the way Capcom has been going minimal risk, milk the cash cows, a boycott would simply register as "Mega Man is no longer profitable", and result in a more PERMANENT blow to the franchise. Abandonment by Capcom.

Well we're already teetering with that thought already.

Woops. Actually, I wasn't calling a boycott "backing down", but I should've been more clear. I was just responding to the defeated attitude of having no other recourse than an impossible carpet-bombing tactic like boycotting.

I don't know why you think a boycott is meant to be vicious. It's just another way of potentially getting them to listen or even talk when they've been ignoring us. You are right though, it is impossible.

Least they had fun in the meanwhile. Also, I have a hard time believing that the Sonic fanbase weren't in some way responsible for games like Sonic 4 and Generations. Those resulted from sheer demand.

The point isn't to magically reach some milestone that will guarantee Capcom makes a good Mega Man game for us. The point is repairing our reputation that was damaged in the wake of Legends 3, and to grow the fanbase and provide more venues for them to hang out and have a good time. It's to distract us a bit from the bitter state of the franchise, but it's also for more exposure. If we start big events ourselves, chances are Capcom will take notice and reach out to us.

Our reputation? Who gives a [parasitic bomb] about our "reputation?" Fellow nerds? Other fanbases? [tornado fang] them. It's not just the Mega Man fanbase that's pissed off with Capcom. Even the fighting scene is upset with the recent BS DLC tactics of MvC3 and Street Fighter X Tekken. This is not simply Sega pumping out bad games and then the fans complain. This is about some of the worst PR tactics I've even seen from the company. And they're still doing it. Do you really, really think us joining together for a franchise distraction is going to distract us from a [parasitic bomb] WAM-X game that the majority of fans cannot even play if they wanted? If anything, it shows that they're forgetting about the loyal fans and moving on to the Facebook/Phone/Tablet crowd.

Capcom doesn't give a [tornado fang] about our reputation either, especially since they're essentially the ones who gave the crazies their fuel. They'll do what they always do: what makes them the most money. They can [acid burst] on their fans all they want and they know if they do release something eventually, whether a standard nostalgia money maker in MM11 or an actual new game/series, we'll buy it. New fans are what they want, and it's going to take more than a new comic and us joining in unity to get some. It's going to take a new series from Capcom. It's all on them.
 

Boycotts can also be pretty divisive. Dangerously so. Imagine the kind of damage that would wreak on the Mega Man fanbase's reputation. I guarantee it'll be many times worse than Legends 3 and UMvC3.

So can getting together lots and lots of Mega Man fans with different ideas. The more you add to a group, the more crazies you add to a group. And again, [tornado fang] our reputation. It's irrelevant in regards to us getting a new game or not.

I was thinking more along the lines of starting conventions and competitive events, like Devroom-type contests, fan game/rom hack contests, speedruns, etc. Active social stuff. Stuff that gets us noticed and attracts attention, specifically of other gamers as well as Mega Man fans.

I'd say the Get Me Off The Moon group already handle that quite well, and their numbers are still growing I believe. That seems like the best place to get that kind of thing started. But for us to start our own conventions and competitive events? That takes both time and money, which I'd say 99% of us are unwilling and unable to contribute to. Especially towards something like a video game franchise. Other gamers already know about Mega Man and either they've moved on or, like many of us, are actually waiting for something new and innovative from the franchise.

Whatever they're planning, they're doing a shitty job of getting us even remotely hyped for anything.

That's an understatement.

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Entertainment / Re: VHS tapes

« on: August 21, 2012, 06:32:05 AM »

Well let's not kid ourselves here. DVD is a vastly superior format, especially Blu-Ray. Hell, I'm sooooooooo tempted to purchase Star Trek: The Next Generation on Blu-Ray because Paramount went out of the way and touched up everything.

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Rockman Series / Re: Dtoid: "Rockman is not Going Over; How to Fix Capcom"

« on: August 20, 2012, 06:42:48 AM »

Exactly. What's sad is that CoA took to blunt of the fan psychotics when CoA had NOTHING to do with it.

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 20, 2012, 06:41:17 AM »

To be honest, theres nothing wrong with X7's soundtrack. The problem is everything else.

Don't get me started

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Entertainment / Re: VHS tapes

« on: August 20, 2012, 06:24:46 AM »

Didn't say I didn't.

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 20, 2012, 06:08:04 AM »

  Believe

As for X7, it has one of the best Sigma fight songs in the series. It could contend for #1. I also like the 1st Crimson Palace stage and maybe another theme or two. Otherwise, not really a fan.

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Entertainment / Re: VHS tapes

« on: August 20, 2012, 06:03:25 AM »

Oh I still have those on tape. They will never be sold.

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Rockman Series / Re: Dtoid: "Rockman is not Going Over; How to Fix Capcom"

« on: August 20, 2012, 06:02:11 AM »

[tornado fang] off, that's not our only recourse.

We shouldn't have to back down from disappointment or betrayal. We just keep being fans and passionate about what we love. In fact, we should become even more passionate. Not because we're outraged at what Capcom is and isn't doing with Mega Man--those are just catalysts. We can do whatever we want because goddamnit, we [tornado fang]ing love Mega Man.

How the hell is a boycott backing down? Backing down is complaining and doing nothing about it, which is exactly what Capcom fans ARE doing. A boycott is just one form of showing that you still want the quality service and games that disappeared no more than two years ago.

Look at the Sonic fanbase. That property has been dragged through [parasitic bomb] just as bad as the Mega Man franchise, if not worse. And look at the fans. They're probably about as insane and maligned as we are right now, but they've got Summer of Sonic, the Sonic Amateur Games Expo, Sonic Retro and it's freakishly awesome dedication to archiving everything Sonic and starting a fun romhacking community, collaborating with Sega of America to make SoS better in the UK and make Sonic Boom awesome over here in the 'states. All of that is [tornado fang]ing love, man. Love and fandom.

All that didn't amount to much. Newer, better quality Sonic games did. Also, Capcom fans DID have that kind of relationship with Capcom of America. It's one of the reasons they fought so hard to get TatsuCap localized for a western audience, something which was thought to be impossible due to the licenses. But they got it done. When TatsuCap, SFIV, and MvC3 were released, Capcom held tourney's in the US at certain places. I went to one at PAX East.

THIS THE POINT OF WHY CAPCOM FANS GOT SO [tornado fang]ing PISSED.

Fans had a great relationship with Capcom at one point, literally not even that long ago. THEN it finally looked like it was MM time. They announce Legends 3 and even invite fans to help make it. Shell, Jericho, Ninja Lou, Sato, and I were all witnesses to this at the NYCC. Then we all know what happens next. Fan passion and love is REALLY kinda hard to get back when they [parasitic bomb] on it in one of the most horrific PR debacles I've ever seen. Sonic fans got it back when SEGA started actually trying to make them happy again. When we get something other than Winter Apple Martini X, it will probably return.

What do we want to do? Let GMOTM handle everything? Wait around for Tuttle's Legendary Tales or Mega Man X: Corrupted? It would only take a few of us to bring all of us together and make the fanbase bigger and better than it's ever been. Certainly better than how it seems to be now, in the wake of the bawfest that followed Legends 3's cancellation and MMX getting snubbed in MvC3.

Joining together in unity is what a boycott is all about. It's a group of devoted people, with different beliefs and ideas, joining together to stand up and do something to try and improve the state of the situation they are in.

I'm not saying that the MM community hasn't been doing a lot of the same stuff that the Sonic fanbase has been doing, like showing their love with fanart, fan music, and fan games, but I think we can all step it up. And it doesn't have to be a boycott. Nay, it shouldn't be a boycott. Forget it. Before we could ever hope to think of doing that, we would need to be bigger. But by the time we become bigger, we won't need to institute a crazy boycott campaign born out of sheer hatred and anger. We can just stand tall, strong, and numerous.

So, lemme guess this straight. Your solution is for us to join together in love and essentially draw, compose, and play our troubles away? What does this accomplish? Lemme tell you what that has, thus far, accomplished...

People are already making fanart, fan music, and fan games and all we've received in return is Winter Apple Martini X, a $200 collection of music comprising of only ONE series that I would imagine the majority of us already own already, and another two remix albums from only one series. This is factoring in that the majority of MM fans continue to buy these albums, shirts, patches, comics, figures, and the other kibbles and bits they decide to feed us. MM Fan unity continuing to do what they already do out of love and passion means that Capcom clearly will see that the fans are accepting the kibbles and bits and continue half assing it and that they might never have to full ass it again with our franchise. Winter Apple Martini X and the classic series nostalgia will be all the assing they need to do. A boycott IS standing tall, strong, and numerous. It's pretty much THE last stand before backing down and just giving up. It starts from outrage but comes from passion and love for the product and service you've been a fan of for so long now.

Also, it's still early. While WAM-X and the music are frustrating, it might not be everything Capcom is planning for the 25th. We don't know yet and we can still hope that we get something much more substantial.

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Rockman Series / Re: Possible changes for the franchise?

« on: August 19, 2012, 10:05:49 PM »

What they really need to do is make a new series with new gameplay. I'd love a ZOE2 style MM game. A strategy game or RPGish game or even a FPS or TPS would work. The idea is to make if new and not half ass it. They also need to remember the games that got them there. The new game has to come first though. As much as I'd love it, a MM11 game is NOT the answer right now.

What they have forgotten at Capcom is that while the franchise name is important, if the game is actually good people will play it.

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 19, 2012, 08:30:48 PM »

Yea I dunno how to feel about that. On one hand they're both awesome, so putting them together in one's brain under "positive" is way radical, but on the other hand, the lack of familiarity says to me a lack of appreciation.

 

It was a joke

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Forum Games / Re: "What Are You Thinking Now?"

« on: August 19, 2012, 08:23:24 PM »

Whoa. 

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 19, 2012, 06:32:27 AM »

Is it wrong I occasionally confuse this theme with Guile's theme?

In some ways, yes. Yes it is! 

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 19, 2012, 06:09:11 AM »

My least favorite is probably X3's (I know, I know, PB wants to bash my head in with his shield for that one), and even that's pretty decent.

Yeah, cannot understand that one at all.

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Rockman Series / Re: Dtoid: "Rockman is not Going Over; How to Fix Capcom"

« on: August 18, 2012, 07:06:05 AM »

Well, you're certainly right on the gamers being crack addicts part.  A "true" boycott would mean abandoning all licensed usage as well; the comics, the figures, etc.  I couldn't do it.  I doubt anyone here really wants to.  The fan-based products can be pretty damn awesome but I couldn't go on them alone when I know I have a choice.

Except for the figures & patches, the comic and music can be acquired without giving Capcom any money. Believe me, I hate saying that as I LOVE buying things. The real key is to abandon the games, I think. I mean, the minor stuff is cool, but the main profit lies with the games themselves. Like we both said though, no chance.

So basically, there's nothing we can do.

I kinda already knew that, but man, that's depressing.

The boycott really is the only thing, but like Shell and I said, it's really a moot point due to the fact that you're never get enough support for fans to stop purchasing games. Only thing to do is wait for something more substantial.

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X / Re: X4 is really overrated

« on: August 18, 2012, 06:17:55 AM »

I'm pretty sure Dinorex has all of X4 beaten in the "high pitched" department.  Further X5 really bombed on X's theme and the standard boss music, both key pieces in a game's music library (not that X5 didn't hit its high points among Zero, Sigma, and the special bosses).  The Zero Virus music was an impressive piece in itself, but really is ill suited for stage music, IMHO.  X6's soundtrack I like quite a bit, believe me.

In terms of individual tracks I'd easily concede that X6 and even X5 generally hit higher points than X4 did, but they also hit more low spots as well (ESPECIALLY X5).  On the whole I simply found the quality of X4's soundtrack to be more consistent, thus leading to more memorable tracks.  For me, personally, X4 had one of my favorite character themes for X in the series, and definitely my favorite for Dr. Light.

I'll easily give you that X4 has X5 beat on the opening themes, cause with X5 X's starts off annoyingly and gets less annoying but not that much better and Zero's is quite forgettable. Here's the thing though. My feelings towards X4's X opening theme are almost the same as my feelings towards MM II GB AirMan's theme. The actual melody is fantastic, but I just do not like the choice of instruments. While it's not Dinorex high pitched, I'll give you that, it's still high pitched enough in the opening and right before the loop were I just find it annoying. There are times that I think it's worse to have a melody you love & hate the instruments then rather the entire song itself be terrible. As for Zero's theme, I think the crazy techno guitar before the loop overdoes it a bit. Speaking of the loop, using the YouTube OST Station as my guide, it loops way too late into the song. It misses out on the softer, better pitched part after the kick ass into. I cannot remember if that is the same as in the game, cause the soundtrack I have for X4 cuts it off after the...2nd crazy techno guitar. If that's the case, then poor loopage on that theme.

You and I have gone back and forth on the boss music for many years now, my dear Shell. This is where I know I'm in the minority, but X5's boss theme is one of my absolute favorites in the whole series. I love the bizarre-ness of the chanters in the opening, the odd techno sounds they chose to use for it, along with awesome guitar work and then the drum finish to start the loop again. X4's starts off high pitched, annoying, and repetitive. Then when that's finally over it's lowers the pitch and by the time they get to actual guitar work at the end, the song loops again. It's short and has so little substance. If I didn't think X3's was worse and if I had ANY clue where they were trying to go with X7's boss music, it'd be my least favorite.

While Zero Rave is ill suited for...everything really, at least it's not f'in boring, which BOTH Final Weapon stage songs are. Not only are they boring, but they are short. Neither of them make it 30 seconds before looping the boredom again. Zero Stage 1 in X5 starts off really well, with the creepiness settling in and the chanters in the background...and then goes off somewhere with it's choice of sounds. And Zero Rave is Zero Rave!

Finally, X4's soundtrack may be more consistent as a WHOLE than X5's (since that soundtrack just really gets weird at times) but I think the consistency of X4's instrument choices is what makes it so sub-par. This is comparing it to not just X5 & X6, but all the X soundtracks. I have to really like, or really hate, most things about a song to find it memorable.

Haha, again this is all just opinion though. I really don't like Bruce Springsteen at all and he's BELOVED! 

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X / Re: Rockman X is Over

« on: August 18, 2012, 05:00:24 AM »

why take offense over a video game

really, it's just a video game

That's not the point. It's offensive as a consumer. Let me put it to you this way...

Imagine Capcom was a restaurant you loved going to for years. You loved going there because the food was delicious and the service was excellent. Then, about one or two years ago the restaurant starts to change. Your food starts coming later and later until eventually your favorite meals get taken off the menu. the service goes from excellent to mediocre after one or two bad incidents. There's no point in going back, but you hope and keep waiting to hear if one of your favorite places to eat at either calls Robert Irvine to fix it up again or if it just gets new management that will keep the menu and make it good or better again.

This is what being a Capcom fan is like these days. You want to believe the service will get better and the food will be good again. Then the put something like this out. We shouldn't be shocked and the majority of fans will simply move on and continue waiting. It doesn't change the feeling of being offended by the company you've been loyal to for over 25 Years now.

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Rockman Series / Re: Would you mind if they made another series with the Fur Coat Megaman

« on: August 18, 2012, 04:42:24 AM »

Sure. Make a standard RPG with Winter X on the Wii U, PS3, and 360 and I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.

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Rockman Series / Re: Dtoid: "Rockman is not Going Over; How to Fix Capcom"

« on: August 17, 2012, 08:11:24 PM »

I understand his reasoning for saying the cancellations were a good thing, in terms of releasing half-assed work. That was never the issue with MML3 though. However, onto the article...

It's pretty much what I said when the game was cancelled. The only way to get through to them that this kind of bs is unacceptable is to stop giving them money. It's not going to happen though because gamers are crack addicts.

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Forum Games / Re: "What Are You Thinking Now?"

« on: August 17, 2012, 04:45:48 AM »

I trust you all know that was classic PB sarcasm!