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Fan Creations / Re: borockman's fun fun art thread!

« on: May 12, 2009, 05:52:32 AM »

Indeed it is!  Still looks bad-ass though! 

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Off The Wall / Re: Well said... Well said.

« on: May 12, 2009, 05:51:14 AM »

Also, so you know the traditional soundtrack terminology, a Soundtrack's composition is also referred to as a Score (I.E. - Danny Elfman composed the score of Spider-Man 1) while the musical songs provided by other artists are called Soundtracks.

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Off The Wall / Re: Post a Random Fact About Yourself

« on: May 12, 2009, 05:36:21 AM »

Are you sure it's a wife you're looking for? 

Well I wouldn't cook for a servant, now would i?   

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Off The Wall / Re: Well said... Well said.

« on: May 12, 2009, 05:34:21 AM »

ignoring all previous posts, i will say this. how is it no one understands what i mean when I refer to music? i DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT mean things like opening and endings, if its in another language, im perfectly alright with them changing it, its understandable. however, what i refer to is in show soundtracks. little ditty tunes made specifically for the show. things like... lets say, using
5D's as an example, since thats all that comes to mind, the eyecatch. that has no japanese lyrics. no singing at all. what I mean is the non vocal soundtrack for music that plays during the show.
though I suppose it still falls under expensive. even so, You's thin they could be a  bit more inventive and at least make different music as to not have the same exact soundtrack in almost every show they license... at least put effort into your job.

IIRC, Ramzal addressed that issue.  It's a business & monetary standpoint.

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Off The Wall / Re: Well said... Well said.

« on: May 12, 2009, 02:12:15 AM »

This would be well put if not for the fact that it's easier in theory than it is in execution. There is a correlation to what a child views to what kind of person they grow to be. The reason why so many kids get exposed to bad media is that parents can't always be around to -see- what their children are taking in. There's always at least a twenty minute window--altogether--when a parent is seperated from a child during the day. And we all know that because those were the times we used to turn to a show we weren't supposed to watch or go and do stupid things.

The reason why things are censored and made so sugary sweet is that if a parent has to leave the room with the child still watching tv, they can be assured that while they are gone, the child is still watching safe programming. People say that blaiming cartoons and music and media is an excuse for bad parenting, but with most cases it really isn't due to what the child can be exposed to outside of a period of parental supervision and an obvious causation when the child's additude begins to change for the worst. Although, I fully agree with you that the media is NOT a parental tool.

You are correct that what a child views has to do with what type of person they grow up to be, but 97% of that is what they view in REAL LIFE, not in cartoons or "bad" media.  The majority of personalities that a child ends up with grows from the type of household they grow up in, the type of friends they have, and their own personal experiences in real life.  That "twenty minute" window of watching something "naughty" on TV during the day has little to nothing to do with anything.  And I will say it again, blaming cartoons and music and media IS an excuse for bad parenting, because if parented well, that "twenty minute" window of non-parental exposure won't corrupt them at all.  It's the same thing as teaching them how to look both ways before crossing the street, not to talk or ride with strangers, and many other various life lessons. 

And a lot who've watched what you did at the same age where effected by that in a negative way. The other side of the fence shouldn't be ignored here.

Really?  In what way were these people, "negatively effected?"  Did they go out and start shooting people like Arnold and Stallone?  Unless you are referring to the whole Gangsta, dressin up like 50 Cent thing, because again, that had to do with parenting and the type of life that they grew up with.  Unless I'm mistaken, the type of neighborhood you're referring to is the "ghetto", and to get into why a lot of those kids dress up like that and act that way is to get into a whole statistical and philosophical debate that can go on and on.
 

That's the kicker and why censorship is in place. What a child initially views/hears, they see it as something that's right to say or do. If you put a kid in front of a tv and they see classic looney toons, they see it as--shooting someone in the face with a shotgun is funny. When the outcome is...well, only funny if Joe Quesada is on the business end of the shotgun. Censorship is there to help in deciding what is good or bad for your children to watch and what could be acceptable.

That's because in cartoons or movies, shooting someones in the face with a shotgun IS funny, because it's make believe.  That's where the parenting comes in, teaching your child the difference between fantasy and reality, between right and wrong.  It's teaching them that they will NOT float upward by holding a few balloons and jumping off the roof, or that shooting someone in the face with a shotgun is funny in a fantasy world, but tragic in reality.  If anything, that's a reason NOT to censor violence, because it shows the horror of it.  It's why, for the past 5-8 years, our media has not shown, nor been allowed to show the tragedy of the War we are in and tries to censor it from the people, because they are deciding what is good or bad for us to watch.

However, we don't really see anymore Looney Tunes type cartoons anymore, do we?  I'm actually asking, because I don't watch a lot of cartoons on TV anymore, but I haven't seen anything like that in a long time, due to censorship deciding what is good for me.

However, that is no excuse to leave them in front of the tele and let that decide for them, they do need parental interations.

But THAT'S what they do and THAT'S where the blame comes in.  This is the point I'm trying to get across.  The majority of these people use the media & cartoons & music as an excuse because they DO just leave them in front of the Television because they've had a long day at work, or a long week, or whatever.  So they leave it up to the censorship bureau to do their parenting for them.

It's more of a mixture of the two. Namely if it's a city like NYC. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that most of those kids he see's are in the hispanic and african american majority. Those two races have a large problem with a lack of parental direction due to a lack of a father figure, losey moms,and music and movies they take too seriously in their heads. I've grown up in way too many ghettos to not see the obvious of music AND poor parenting go hand in hand as to when your kid is bleeding in the street because they wanted to be as tough as 50. (Which, he really is a pansy. >_>)

You are indeed correct about the majority of kids he sees, but you could've stopped right there at the part I bolded & underlined.  This, once again, is my point.  These people watch the same movies I do, listen to the same music I do, and play the same games that I do.  So logically, if the rest of us grew up fine watching and listening to all the same stuff, then obviously something else is the problem, namely the part I just bolded and underlined.  If the music did indeed influence that kid to "be as tough as 50", I blame the parenting, or lack there of, as well as the type of environment that kid grew up in for the kids situation. 

In Avatar The Last Airbender there are debates--in the show weither it is right or wrong to kill the Fire Lord in the grand scheme of preserving peace. As in, they said the word "Kill" rather than "Destroy" and "Taking a life" rather than "Obliterate". They've loosened up quite some time since Dugeons & Dragon's, man. And Avatar is -aimed- towards kids to watch and I think that IS an exceptable level of censorship so kids are made aware of certain things in show rather than just being blinded and pampered.

That's great.  My niece loves that show.  Good to know she has good taste.  However, that's ONE cartoon, and I believe it's over now too.  The 80's & 90's had a lot of them.  And again, your original basis was G.I.Joe, a cartoon so horribly censored that it sucked.  From what it sounds like, we need more cartoons like Avatar, in my opinion.  However, I don't see any coming out.  If there are, then that's a good thing and I'd be very happy.

That wasn't my point at all and you kind of blew my statement out of proportion. My point was that comparing the violent content, they have loosened up. Stan Lee almost got into a lawsuit situation over what goes on in the Spider-man 1990's cartoon as far as censorship goes and it's a shame he didn't get his way. Shoulda been like the comics.

Perhaps I did, and for that I'll apologize.  However, I still think the Spidey cartoon comparison is a poor one, due to the fact that the violence is in part due to the animation, not the storytelling. 

Again, you're assuming that what I'm saying that "TV = bad." What I was saying was that media censorship has a part in what a child grows to be. Not a large part but still a part. WHATEVER your child is exposed to, that is what they are going to take in and use to form their personal tastes and personality.

I mean, yes, they do do a lot of shielding for the kids. But as a parent myself, I rather not have a cartoon for my daughter to watch--with say, Spounge Bob with his dick hanging out or him being a pimp. It's about making sure kids don't turn into vulgar little jack-asses. Need further proof of that? Drive into any area like in NYC where there are black people with kids, and their kids are dressed like 50 cent, and headbobbing to their father's iPod of Candyshop.

What I bolded & underlined lead to that "TV = Bad" assumption, because the extremity of this statement warrants the immediate thought, for me at least, that you think that's what is going to happen, if censorship isn't there to protect us. 

Wow, nice move insulting my intelligence as well as ability to raise a child and underestimating what the job of parenting actually is. It's harder than what you read about and harder than what your parents tell you. It's not so SIMPLE as "Don't let them watch it!" It really isn't, because you can't ALWAYS be there to mantain what your child is exposed to. I reiterate: CENSORSHIP IS IN PLACE IN CARTOONS SO IT CAN BE EASIER FOR A PARENT TO CHOOSE WHAT THEIR KIDS WATCH! IT IS NOT A PARENTAL TOOL TO RAISE YOUR KID OFF OF!

Anytime a parent say they are worried about what their kid takes in, people blow it out of proportion to make them look like overly anal people who wouldn't let their kids use a butter knife. There's not relation to splash mountain the ride and the viewing level of it. Again, please do not insult my intelligence by making suck a poor example to get a chuckle.

LoL, my parents never said it was easy.  Obviously, raising a child is not an easy task.  There are people in this world who should NOT be parents, like the majority of ghetto families which we have discussed already.  Never did I say you shouldn't be one.  From what it sounds like, you're a great father.  The POINT I was getting across was that if you properly parent your child, CARTOONS DON'T MATTER. NOR DO MOVIES & MUSIC.  YES, you cannot always be there to monitor what your child is exposed to in life. obviously.  You can't censor the world from them.  This is my point.  The level of violence in these cartoon don't matter, because it's a cartoon.  They should be able to watch whatever they want, and not be influenced by it.   Honestly, if this is just true with me, and my friends and family, then I must live in some truly sheltered world.

And I'm sorry, but you DO sound like a over-concerned parent, just because of what you think Rap music can do to a child, due to your own personal experiences and hatred of Rap.  Again though, I'm not one to judge.  We all live our lives & raise our children based on our own personal experiences in life.  From what it seems, the ghetto & rap music have influenced you in a negative way, compounding in a hatred of the Rap genre of music, and not wanting to expose your daughter to it. 

Wow. You just keep assuming and blowing statements out of proportion which is--odd for you. I never said that those things will be the bane of mankind or the thing that rots childrens minds. But rather something that needs to be controlled when it comes to CHILD PROGRAMMING. Personally, I intend to move my daughter up to more mature things as she ages or what I believe is acceptable. I won't be showing her Texas Chainsaw when she's five but I'd have little worry about that when she is 13 or 15.

Again, assumption comes from the above quote from your first statement. 

As for language, hell her first word literally was "[tornado fang]!" because I dropped my P3-3X exhaust on my foot and yelled it. As for what games she'd play, it'd be the same as I got. You start with Mario 1 and work your way up. I am cool with the game violencing--hell, I intend to raise her as a fighter in kung-fu--as I am the degree of what she's playing. For example: I'd let her play street fighter or things like brawl if she were ten now, but Resident evil is off limits.

Not only because of the violent deaths, but things like that can lead to night paranoia in some people or temperary terrors. Age 15 or so, I would tell her go for it.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.  I honestly hope that turns out well.  My point, and anger, stem from the fact that there are a whole whole bunch of "concerned parents" out there who would deem that to be unacceptable.  Like the thing Quickie mentioned about them banning or trying to ban Tag because it's too violent. 

That's an over-drastic example and stupid editing on the us's end due to me not caring for religion. But again. You are taking my stance on censorship to another level that I never said. And I never understand why they would show certain animes towards kids in the us due to the overall opinion and contrast of what is kid acceptable in japan and what is in the us. And lemme be clear so this cannot be picked apart and blown out of proportion--I am NOT saying kids should not watch anime. I am saying that for a country that is so anal retentive about this stuff, bringing it over and butchering it doesn't seem like a logical choice.

Over-Drastic?  How?  It wasn't stupid editing. It's not as if they removed it entirely.  That would be editing. It was censored for children.  Why?  They already cut "God of Death" into "Great Destroyer".  So why censor this?  You say below about how I think these people sit in a dark cave and are plotting to control our minds.  This example of censorship, as well as what the media shows us, tells me that they do.  Otherwise, something like this would never be censored out.  The phrase is completely non-vulgar, yet it was cut out of the true version, along with the vulgarity.  You and I might not care about religion, but clearly the people in charge do.

I'd perfer to see what is there in the first place, but sometimes, what's said in the US verisons are better worded than the Japanese verisons and done with better emotion. Hell, even nintendo admits that the japanese have a harder time expressing emotions properly than americans do. I rememeber seeing that on an episode of G4's ICONS.

The creator of Cowboy Bebop even said that the Dub version is superior to the JP Version. 

You know, the people who are literally like that are about 5% of the population of parents. There's a difference between concern and being scared. When you're concerned you do things like check what the rating for a show is before you let a five year old see it. When you're SCARED you start editing out the purple teletubby because you think he's gay.

Or removing the phrase "I don't believe in God." from a cartoon.  Also, I disagree.  Concerned parents try to make sure their kids are doing well in school, and make sure that they stay on the right path.  Scared Parents are those who think that Rated R movies are going to influence their child more than the life lessons taught to them.  That's merely my opinion though.

Again, you're assuming.

Okay. That was random and I have no idea HOW you got that out of my post at all. But you're overreacting to my statements and putting words in my...uh...keyboard? Again, censorship is there to HELP choose what is acceptable for your child to be exposed to as far as video games go. While I think they are overprotentious douchebags, the ESRB is helpfull in the sense that parents who WOULD say some stupid [parasitic bomb] like that have no grounds to stand on due to the label being right THERE and letting them KNOW what they're buying. And if they buy GTA 3 for their kid and are surprised by the content (Something which a lady did for her kid when I was working at gamestop and she came back an hour later, yelling at me.) then they are stupid.

Again, quoted post above.  Also, I had the same experience working at a GameStop. 

Again, you're seeing it as some group who is sitting in a dark mountain, plotting to controll kids and peoples minds. It's not that serious. Censorship is a tool. One that can either be used because it can be usefull or ignored because some cases are stupid. Again, it HELPS parents make decisions on what their kid should or should not watch or listen to. As in, it makes them -aware- of what they are viewing and watching. As far as new cartoons come out these days, I am not in favor of MOST of them because they are always yelling and are drawn poorly.

I once again go back to my Gundam Wing example, as well as my current media during wartime example.  Also, what you're are describing is a Rating System, not censorship.

However, what I was saying that I am cool with them making shows that are the diet coke of viewing pleasure before moving kids onto red-bull. When it comes to letting your kids watch certain things, it's a matter of progressing them to less and less censored material gradually, not sheilding them and thinking that's okay. There is a grey shade---a middle ground to the subject of censorship. That is the stance I'm taking and until people stop BS'ing themselves and stop saying that "I love it, everything should be censored!" or "I hate it, everything should run ramped", we--as society in general are going to be a flock of morons arguing over who is right, when the truth is that the grey patch in the middle is what is best.

That's not how it came across to me.  However, if I misread, I apologize.  Also, we already are a flock of morons arguing over who is right.  We always have been.  The grey shade will not change that.  Ever.

Also, as far as the people who try to say what your future kids should watch, just don't tune into their programming and don't listen to them.

This bolded & underlined statement was my point.  Except, the people who try to say what my future kids should watch are the censorship bureau.  They are the ones who dictate what is too violent for my future children to watch on TV by censoring the hell out of it.

Edit: And I'll say this, just so we're clear. Violent cartoons do not make for violent people. But over exposer towards them as far as a child goes it not healthy for their minds.  However, children need to know the truth of matters towards violence and death. And honestly, that's the parents responcibility to -talk- to them about it. Not the tv so they can see Major Hughs die. Censorship is something that should be used as a tool. NOT a crutch.

Just so we're clear, I still disagree.  Over-exposure to violent cartoons should not affect their minds if properly parented.  Like you just said...

However, children need to know the truth of matters towards violence and death. And honestly, that's the parents responcibility to -talk- to them about it. Not the tv so they can see Major Hughs die.

If the parents do indeed heed their responsibility and talk to them about it, and not leave them sitting in front of the TV, even that "twenty minute" window of time that they are not there will not matter.  My proof is my child-psychologist friend I discussed before, whom has told me that violent cartoons/music/movies have nothing to do with the situation a lot of his students are in.  My proof is my family and friends.  My proof is myself.

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Original / Re: A new game, with someone else taking the lead~

« on: May 12, 2009, 12:25:06 AM »

I don't see any possible way to defeat this.

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Off The Wall / Re: Post a Random Fact About Yourself

« on: May 12, 2009, 12:19:58 AM »

If I had a wife who'd clean up after my cooking all the time, I'd cook every night!

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Original / Re: A new game, with someone else taking the lead~

« on: May 12, 2009, 12:19:16 AM »

oh not surprising at all. hold on a minute while i draw the rest of these hoes up. who's the ugly one?

My guess would be TrashWoman.

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Original / Re: A new game, with someone else taking the lead~

« on: May 12, 2009, 12:11:55 AM »

I really like the design for Dash Woman.  It's simple and reminds me of earlier MM1-MM2 Robots Masters.

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Gaming / Re: Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior

« on: May 11, 2009, 09:10:40 PM »

The bad ones are usually the best though!

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Gaming / Re: Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior

« on: May 11, 2009, 09:08:58 PM »

SHE SUCKS A BUS?

I hate myself for that one.

Awww come on, Acid.  Puns are always there for us!

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM

« on: May 11, 2009, 08:35:58 PM »

Yes, Dax was a Trill.

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM

« on: May 11, 2009, 08:17:24 PM »

And Ezri Dax.  Hot, Hot Ezri Dax! 

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Gaming / Re: The Official Pokemon Heart Gold & Soul Silver Discussion Thread

« on: May 11, 2009, 08:15:39 PM »

Ehh... Look there! *points at a Tyranitar, and yoinks away*

(Yeah, Tyranitar has the Sand Stream ability...)

It's a shame he's useless now that Aura Sphere is available to Mewtwo.

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Fan Creations / Re: Milen's Hall of Works

« on: May 11, 2009, 08:10:50 PM »

Flawless Victory!

Kick ass, Milen.  I loved using him in the MK!

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Off The Wall / Re: Post a Random Fact About Yourself

« on: May 11, 2009, 08:05:56 PM »

My cooking is fan-[tornado fang]ing-tastic.  I just hate cleaning up afterwards.

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Fan Creations / Re: The Parody Lyrics Thread of Fun!

« on: May 11, 2009, 08:02:18 PM »

Yes, very weird, you silly black man! 

LoL, either way, thanx all!   

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Fan Creations / Re: The Parody Lyrics Thread of Fun!

« on: May 11, 2009, 07:55:55 PM »

LoL, worried?  About what?

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Fan Creations / Re: The Parody Lyrics Thread of Fun!

« on: May 11, 2009, 07:52:54 PM »

Awwww thanx guys!

LoL, more?  Damn....I'd have to think of some.

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Fan Creations / PB = Parappa Blues (even though I shouldn't be allowed to rap)

« on: May 11, 2009, 07:44:53 PM »

This is awesome!   Got that nice cabaret sound going with it.

That's what I was going for.  It's why I love the AST JewelMan song so much!   

WHY

WHY ARE YOU SO AWESOME

Because I make you JIZZ IN YOUR PANTS?   

Posted on: May 09, 2009, 09:38:23I mean, I think the lyrics are pretty good.  It's just that I don't think my voice is suited very well for Rap.  LoL, some would say it's not good for singing also, but screw them!  However, I did this anyway because...well why the [tornado fang] not.  If this upload's correctly, Enjoy!
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Gaming / Sumthing Else & iTunes offering Capcom Soundtracks

« on: May 11, 2009, 05:35:55 PM »

Capcom Soundtrack are Sumthing Else

I just read this article on the Kotaku and I must say, I think this is a great idea.  Sure, the majority of nerds out there will probably simply download/torrent the soundtrack for free instead of using iTunes, not to mention from what I've seen, the majority of nerds out there dislike iTunes, however I think it's nice that they are actually offering it at all, since we really don't get many gaming soundtracks in the US, whereas they have an entire floor of a store dedicated to it in Japan.  If iTunes continues picking more game soundtracks up, then hopefully Amazon.com will as well.

Hopefully they might eventually get some Mega Man soundtracks up there as well.  If they do, I'll buy it.   

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Original / Re: A new game, with someone else taking the lead~

« on: May 11, 2009, 05:26:56 PM »

I'm definitely all for playable Tango.   

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Forum Games / Re: "What Are You Thinking Now?"

« on: May 11, 2009, 06:31:43 AM »

I really do love the fact that my Mom wanted to celebrate Mother's Day by watching Die Hard With A Vengeance!   

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Off The Wall / Re: Post Pictures Of Yourself

« on: May 11, 2009, 06:06:40 AM »

Technically, if I hit on her now, I'd be hitting on a minor.

Oh that has merit outside of the US?  LoL, silly me!   

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Fan Creations / Re: Rad's Art, Mixes and Videos - [With Sexy Results!]

« on: May 11, 2009, 05:27:22 AM »

Nice perspective there!