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Fan Creations / Re: Lili's art :D (Boobs, Concept Art, and more!)

« on: May 15, 2010, 11:16:26 PM »

I believe in you!  You can do it! 

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Gaming / Re: Emotional Gaming (SPOILER WARNING?)

« on: May 15, 2010, 10:26:56 PM »

It's not just limited to Video Games either.  I mean, YuGiOh is great for playing with friends, and so is the best board game ever, Sorry!, the game of Sweet Revenge!

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Gaming / Re: Emotional Gaming (SPOILER WARNING?)

« on: May 15, 2010, 10:16:44 PM »

I'LL ALLOW IT! /millslane

And didn't you mention Zone of the Enders in that other topic?

I thought that was awesome.  But I think lots of things in games are awesome.  However, I don't view things being awesome as a true emotional response, as specified by the criteria you mentioned.  The only emotional responses I get from games are when I play my friends in games.

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Original / Re: Official RPM Robot Master Design Thread

« on: May 15, 2010, 10:05:57 PM »

Oh you knwow you want SexyMan How could you not fall for his massive hairy chest (like gatson ).

"AS A SPECIMEN, YES I'M INTIIIIIIMIIIIIDAAAATING!"

Best Disney song ever.

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Fan Creations / Re: Lili's art :D (Boobs, Concept Art, and more!)

« on: May 15, 2010, 10:04:23 PM »

What about Giraffes?

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Gaming / Re: Emotional Gaming (SPOILER WARNING?)

« on: May 15, 2010, 09:59:14 PM »

Have you ever played a game, and had a genuine emotional reaction? Cheered happily, cried, gotten angry, anything? If so, post your stories here!

Only when playing with friends.  Otherwise, never. 

Hmmm, well maybe not, if you count how I refused to play X7 because the main character of his own series has to be unlocked or save data'd.  Otherwise, never.

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Gaming / Re: The Double Edged Nintendo Fallacy

« on: May 15, 2010, 09:52:39 PM »

I can understand that. But it's the same thing as crying at the end of Old Yeller, or when Bambi's mom gets shot. No matter how many people are unmoved by it, they're moments which tend to touch most people, as I've said time and time again, it's about reaching the bigger portion of the audience's feelings, not all of it.

But again, without statistical evidence as to how many were touched vs. how many weren't touched, you can't make a judgment if the bigger portion was touched or not.  That's why feelings are tricky like that.

Sony? Compare the friggin' awesome list of constant AAA games there was for that system. I remember they had pretty much a game I felt like playing every week. Simulators, RPGs, fighting games, action/adventure. Where's my GTA3/Vice City/San Andreas on the Wii? Where's my Jak trilogy on the Wii? Where's my FFX/XI/XII on the Wii? Where's my Prince of Persia Trilogy on the Wii? Where's my Spider-Man 2 on the Wii? Where's my Onimusha 3 on the Wii? Where's my Zone of the Enders 1/2 on the Wii? Where's my God of War on the Wii? Where's my God Hand (or equivalent to Okami) on the Wii? Where's my Viewtiful Joe on the Wii? Where's my ICO/Shadow of the Colossus on the Wii? Where's my Yakuza on the Wii? My MGS2/MGS3 on the Wii? My Devil May Cry 1/3 on the Wii? Where's my Gran Turismo on the Wii? Where's my Persona 3/4 on the Wii? Where's my Disgaea 1/2 on the Wii? Where's my Burnout 3 on the Wii? Where's my DOA2 on the Wii? Where's my Timesplitters on the Wii? Where's my Ratchet & Clank Trilogy on the Wii? Where's my Sly Trilogy on the Wii? Where's my Tekken 4/5 on the Wii?

The same thing can be said for this list.  Honestly I feel this is all a simple matter of perspective.  Whereas you, and many others, feel those games are awesome, there are lots of people out there who can look at that list and just say "Meh" to it.  This is similar to Flame's argument in another thread that even bad games with glitches can be good.  It's all within the eye of the beholder.  Someone could easily just as well say Where's my Boom Blox on the PS3?  Where's my Zack & Wiki on the 360?  Where's my Madworld on the PS3?  Where's my Monster Hunter Tri on the 360?  Where's my Muramasa on the PS3?  Where's my Wii Fit on the 360?  Where's my Wii Sports Resort on the PS3?  Where's my Super Smash Bros. Brawl on the 360?  and so on and so forth.  Just like back then, you could argue the Dreamcast vs. the PS2.  The Dreamcast was a great system, had great games, and ultimately failed because the PS2 was the cheapest DVD player available and the Dreamcast wasn't marketed very well.

I could keep going all day and all night. These are just half the titles on my shelves. And I don't even have half, probably not even a quarter of all the AAA games the PS2 has out. Do you know why the PS2 won the last console race? It wasn't because of the popularity alone, no. It was because it didn't matter how much shovelware came out for it, all the awesome games ended up coming out for it too. Add that to the ton of great exclusives it had when compared to the other consoles, and add that even more to being the easiest console to develop for at the time, plus still being THE console for RPGs, plus still having games come out for it in Japan... the PS2 had about one different AAA title released per month, or per every two weeks. And had more good games coming out at the same time. It was a damn race to keep up with the good releases while my XBox and Gamecube were left in the dust, and I recognize that because I'm still trying to keep up, and still haven't finished getting all the games I want for it. Sony cared for it and developed titles, but they didn't need to give it alot of attention, because everyone and their dog wanted to develop for it. The PS2 ended up being one of the most popular consoles of all time, and receiving a staggering number of incredible titles for it from all companies. If you're going to compare any console's run, WHY the PS2? Because the PS2 is the primest of prime examples on how to keep a console fully supplied with awesome titles all the damn time.

Nothing I disagree with here, but if this is the case with you, then I'm curious if you feel that Sony has let you down with the PS3 like Nintendo has let you down with the Wii?

And the games might have not been released on a very regular basis, but it certainly was better than what we have now. And those games WERE released at all. And there were plenty of other titles. Custom Robo? Cubivore? Doshin the Giant? These might not all have been incredible quality games, but Nintendo was trying something new. And there were good third-party titles.

Again, Nintendo did try something new with the Wii as well, and judging by the $20 Million sellers they have with Wii Play & Wii Fit, and the close to $20 Million sellers they have coming, its succeeded.  The problem with this success is that other companies wanna try and get dat pimp money, as it were.  The reason the PS2 had all those titles you mentioned was because that was the market that bought the PS2 so that's were the money was to be made.  You're right in that the PS2 was THE system for RPG's, so clearly they are going to try to cater to the RPG crowd.  Meanwhile, clearly the Wii caters to the more family oriented fun type of games, because that's where the money is coming from, and "cash money ain't ever gonna play out." (Ice-T, New Jack Hustler).  Like with everything in the gaming industry, it's all about money.  Despite the technological advances since arcades, all of our console systems and our handheld systems are just quarter munching whore machines.  Like I mentioned before, it's like when I talked to Seth Killian about if we'd ever see a Power Stone 3 and he told me from a business standpoint, it makes no sense when they can just release a new Street Fighter game and without question make much more money developing something like that rather than developing a new Power Stone game.

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Fan Creations / Re: ಠ_ಠ

« on: May 15, 2010, 10:17:42 AM »

Oh wow that's awesome!  I'm looking forward to it's completion.

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Fan Creations / Re: borockman's fun fun art thread!

« on: May 15, 2010, 08:00:13 AM »

LoL, AHHHHH

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Fan Creations / Re: Lili's art :D (Boobs, Concept Art, and more!)

« on: May 15, 2010, 07:58:30 AM »

CONGRATULATIONS PB! You've won the honour of being the manriest man I ever drawn!

Claim your prize below!

 

SO MANLY!  I love this and thank you soooooooo much Lili!  TIME TO MAN DANCE!

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Gaming / Re: The Double Edged Nintendo Fallacy

« on: May 15, 2010, 06:50:26 AM »

I know you can't please everyone. But it's unarguable that certain sequences in games have a big effect on most gamers. I don't know one single person that went through the Andrew Ryan reveal in Bioshock and left without at least recognizing the scene as a fantastic twist. Better to please most, than to not please at all. And some Zelda games have this kind of effect.

It is arguable, because without statistical proof you cannot know for sure what "certain sequence" has a big effect on most gamers.  For example, what about when....Aeris? Aerith? died in FFVII (I think it was VII).  I've heard people say they actually cried when she died in that game, whereas people like me felt nothing for it cause I'm not a Final Fantasy fan.  However even for a couple of friends I know who are die hard FF fans, they felt nothing as well.  This can be the case for Zelda, Metroid, that Bioshock scene you mentioned, or any other game or form of entertainment.  I mean, in Toy Story 2 when Jessie tells Woody her story about her life with Emily, it would move me to tears if I still had the ability to cry.  But that's just me, and a few other people I know.  But I can't say that about most movie fans.

Hell, I mean perhaps I'm not the best example to talk with sequences in games having an effect on me, because if we're talking scenes and story, I'd venture to say that the Zone of the Enders series is probably the only game series in which I actually had an interest in the story, and even I know the story wasn't all that great, in terms of writing and such.  Otherwise though, I don't care about story in games.  I mean, everything you mentioned in Zelda somewhere in this thread I really didn't care about.  Usually the biggest effect a sequence will have on me is that I think it's cool or pretty cool.  But to "move" me or anything like that really doesn't happen with me and games. 

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Fan Creations / Re: borockman's fun fun art thread!

« on: May 15, 2010, 06:28:28 AM »

Damnit PB! what's wrong with you now?!

Wait, what'd I do? 

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM

« on: May 15, 2010, 06:27:55 AM »

I just watched Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of the Ring.
It was just gorgeous! The landscapes were beautiful, the buildings and houses impressive. I would think the mines were possibly my favorite place in the movie, it feels so dead and empty with the skeletons, and he little crack shedding sunlight on Gimli's cousins' tomb. Then of course is the "YOU. SHALL NOT! PASS!" Sequence which was amazing as Balrog looked extremely menacing. The pacing of the story is much better than that of the book, sure it doesn't explain everything of everything but when something or someone needs to be fleshed out it flows smoothly and doesn't break the steady pace it has. And I really have to say, the ending was a bit tragic, which makes me want to watch The Two Towers even more.

Of course it's a good movie, you've all heard about it tons of times! But I've never watched it, it is awesome.

Heh, LOTR can never get enough praise.

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Gaming / Re: The Double Edged Nintendo Fallacy

« on: May 14, 2010, 07:58:23 PM »

Yeah, but there are some things which can pretty much touch anyone. Have someone who likes games play OOT in its original context back when the game came out, and I guarantee they'd be touched. Endings like the Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening ones also provided quite a thrill that made you think for awhile. Kinda like the magnetic corridor from MGS4, or the twist scene in Bioshock. They are scenes which "get" the biggest part of the audience. As long as you can nail those people in their feelings, you got yourself a winner.

Again, my friend really wasn't that fond of OoT.  He's a Zelda fan, probably more so of LttP and The Adventures of Link, I believe, but OoT never did it for him.  Now the Silent Hill series is his favorite.  You are right that certain scenes can indeed invoke people's feelings.  My point is simply that different people have different feelings.  You can't please everyone.

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Gaming / Re: The Double Edged Nintendo Fallacy

« on: May 14, 2010, 07:16:32 PM »

If you want it to be a throwaway title that doesn't have a single moment that makes you go "Holy [parasitic bomb], has this just happened?" and makes you think it's an awesome game, you're pretty much just playing some other old game like so many nowadays. Feeling is what differentiates good games from fantastic ones.

There in lies the problem though.  Feeling is limited to each individual purpose, and not everyone is going to feel the same about a game.  Whereas I thought that OoT was great, my friend played it once and really never touched it again cause he got bored with it.  Whereas Mario Galaxy might seem innovative to some, others might see it as another Mario 64, just with waggle spinning & gravity.  For myself personally, my example would be Puzzle Quest.  People raved about the game, and when I played it I 100% hated it.  The same thing goes for any form of entertainment, really.

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Anime & Manga / Re: Yugioh 5 D's

« on: May 14, 2010, 07:06:00 PM »

Oh stop it, PB. Everybody knows you're just saying that, because you hail from New York.
Tough I admit, Brooklyn Joey wasn't that bad, in fact, he was quite good. Still, if the writing for the dub was better, I would have liked him more.

LoL, that's part of the reason, but it's really just because it's such an absurd idea that it's brilliant.

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Entertainment / Re: At The Movies With RPM

« on: May 14, 2010, 09:17:59 AM »

I declare him to be an OutLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!

Heh, I saw Robin Hood tonight.  I throughly enjoyed it, especially that line above which over-emphasizes the LAWWWWWWWW! 

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Fan Creations / Re: Art of DarkWaltz *5-13-10 Taima complete*

« on: May 14, 2010, 07:19:16 AM »

Taima's completed. I didn't add in X's shadow in it because I'm worried about ruining it. >.< And I rushed the grass.

This is simply lovely.  It's also titstastic too! 

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Gaming / Re: The Pre-E3 2010 Discussion Thread - HYPE SEASON! NEWS SEASON!

« on: May 14, 2010, 06:47:46 AM »

It's about time you made this, Jelly!

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Anime & Manga / Re: Yugioh 5 D's

« on: May 14, 2010, 06:43:21 AM »

Bull. [parasitic bomb].

Brooklyn Joey is all I have to say on the matter.

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Fan Creations / Re: KoiDrake´s art dumping

« on: May 13, 2010, 09:15:03 AM »

I love your designs.

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Off The Wall / Re: You a Coffee Drinker like me?

« on: May 13, 2010, 08:46:27 AM »

Hot Chocolate is the only hot beverage I actually like.

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Gaming / Re: The Double Edged Nintendo Fallacy

« on: May 13, 2010, 08:42:38 AM »

Thanks for understanding my point. It's not that I don't agree with the direction Nintendo's taking. But when I think of the beautiful experiences they used to lead us in, I kinda feel that that Nintendo is kinda gone. I haven't seen creative Nintendo ever since the first Galaxy came out.

Here's the thing with me though.  I do agree with you, but when it comes to me, I don't remember these great experiences coming out every other month, or even every 3-4 months.  I'm probably not as hardcore a gamer as most are in here, but I honestly don't remember games that I truly truly loved coming out that fast, or in a row, somewhat. 

I'm not saying this is true of all gamers, but one thing I've noticed in my years since the internet came about is that gamers in general are just getting more and more impatient.  Back in my day, we had to wait for Nintendo Power or some other magazine to come out once a month before finding out the latest game info.  Now though, information is instant and so fluid that game companies can't even keep any real secrets anymore.  Through a licensing copyright, the rumor train, hype, and possibly downfall can immediately start up.  With Nintendo right now, they have 3 games coming out that I know about that I definitely want more than any other.  With Microsoft, they have Halo Reach (which has JEEP ACTION), and with Sony, they have ModNation Racers, which if it's what I really, REALLY, REALLY, [tornado fang]ing REALLY hope it is, could be my game of the year.

But E3 is coming up soon so we shall see.  Zelda Wii should most likely be shown, and who knows what else.  Perhaps the Kid Icarus game I want-icus.  Here's hoping anyway.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)

« on: May 13, 2010, 05:48:36 AM »

Not only is J'onn back, but he continues to wear pants!

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Off The Wall / Re: You a Coffee Drinker like me?

« on: May 13, 2010, 05:05:07 AM »

They do!