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Gaming / Re: ITS MAHVEL 3 BAYBEE (The MvC3 topic)
« on: September 11, 2010, 09:10:24 PM »
Onomatopoeia

Now he'd be a fun villain in a DC fighting game.

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Gaming / Re: ITS MAHVEL 3 BAYBEE (The MvC3 topic)
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:57:33 PM »
I still want my Spider-Friends team.

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News and Announcements / Re: Mega Man Universe details from PAX
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:43:41 PM »
OK.

Now you must elaborate.

Hmmmmm....

Gimme time on that. LoL, I'm at work and on the side were I have to pay attention to what I'm watching! XD

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Gaming / Re: The Official Pokémon Black & White Discussion Thread
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:27:55 PM »
To be the best, like no one ever was.

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News and Announcements / Re: Mega Man Universe details from PAX
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:26:49 PM »
When you think about it, the MegaMan storyline is the closest we'll ever get to modern day Shakespeare.

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Gaming / Re: ITS MAHVEL 3 BAYBEE (The MvC3 topic)
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:21:28 PM »
Yeah, he won't be coming back. Neither will his alter ego, S/N

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Forum Games / Re: "What Are You Thinking Now?"
« on: September 11, 2010, 06:48:57 PM »

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 04:06:39 AM »
I know, but she somehow doesn't like them. Oh well, I'll just show her how fun the game is and stuff. I just wish I had more local dudery to co-op with. I [tornado fang]ing LOVE co-op games, but I never get to do anything like it.

That sucks. Move to NYC!

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:59:52 AM »
You poor Superbat!

And aversion to monkeys? Monkey are awesome!

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:55:06 AM »
DC IS better than Marvel. Leagues better.

But honestly? And this is HURTING ME LIKE ALL HELL to say. Seriously, it's causing me gigantic pain.

Cosmic Marvel, at least Annihilation, that one single event... is better than the usual, run-of-the-mill DC stuff. It's basically one of the best events I've ever seen, if not the best (along with stuff like Final Crisis and Sinestro Corps War) and it's absolutely AMAZING. Every single comic of the main event is a pure delight, and Nova is SUCH AN AWESOME CHARACTER when he goes solo with the Nova Force. From there, the characters evolve, and it pretty much is at DC standards, all of the events that go from there. But Annihilation is just... monstrous. Amazing. Incredible. Fantastic. It is epic in standards of epic which you have never, ever seen before.



Oh, and this is pretty excellent too. =P

Hey, it wouldn't hurt me to say that. A good comic is a good comic, no matter the company. Again, I consider The Ultimates 1 & 2 among the best comics I've ever read. Ever.

And yeah, that scene was priceless. Hell, even Carol's character is developing. XD

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:48:50 AM »
That'd be my assumption as well. I mean, it's not a tremendous issue for me as I'm a simple walk away from Lou's. But still, it'd be nice to be able to play with you all.

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Gaming / Re: Super Smash Bros. Thread
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:30:01 AM »
Sure thing! I'm still available. 8)

You better be singing your theme!  8D

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:29:35 AM »
Oooooooh, my favorites! The portuguese restaurant "Castelo Branco" has a fine selection of wines, and a specially exquisite lobster. You're buying, of course.

And DKCR isn't online? AW FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Of course!

And actually, I don't know if it is or not. I just assume that it's not going to be. XD

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:28:33 AM »
Exactly. Talking about the natural evolution of a character, and how it's handled. In Marvel, few characters are being allowed an actual evolution (Steve Rogers looks like a 20-year old in his recent comics). In DC, pretty much everyone is maturing lately, and their personalities are changing. Batman's being given a whole new perspective in life, Superman's gained and lost his culture all over again, and he's reconnecting with the world, Hal Jordan's trying to find out what love means, Guy Gardner's no longer just an [dark hold], but he's a respectable commander of amazing forces, along with Kyle who finally lost all of his insecurities and is a veteran with a stable romance, Ollie is trying to find himself again, in his origins, Barry's back and trying to keep up with the world as best as he can, Diana's trying to undo stuff in her own origin, and taking on a new street-level style to do it... heck, even villains like Sinestro are evolving and redeeming themselves!

Meanwhile, it's back to Deadpool being violently funny in his hundreds of weekly titles, and Wolverine bubbing snikts and snikting bubs.

This is why I was such a huge fan of the Ultimate universe, because at least if they were gonna go back to basics, they made a different universe for it. All three original Ultimate titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, and The Ultimates, were excellent series, in my opinion. Granted, Marvel eventually ruined a couple of them (despite my issues with Ultimate Spidey, I still thought it was good).

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said about DC and the characters. Hell you could've gone further. Luthor's evolving, secondary characters like Ganthet & Mera are even gaining new life, purpose, and character, and the new characters they've created like Larfleeze & Atrocitus all have their own unique character (Quickie told me that Larfleeze is getting his own X-mas special).

It's why I easily think that DC is better than Marvel at this point, and I'm not saying Marvel is all you. You and others have told me that Cosmic Marvel is [tornado fang]ing genius, and I personally think Ed Brubaker is a fantastic writer.

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:05:12 AM »
Nuh-uh, you don't get to call me that until dinner and a movie. =P

Yep, played that gem in the arcade. (My favorite TMNT game is actually that third GB one, that featured a Metroidvania-like zone. Not part of the discussion of course, but I always mention the game when I want to make people aware of it =P) And of course you got screwed by that guy. 8D Because he didn't play as a team. The point of co-op games is to play as a team all the way. Try to play a game like Left 4 Dead by yourself, and you're DEAD. That's the whole fun of co-op gaming. Progressing as a team. In NSMBW, all you do is pretty much [tornado fang] others up, whether you want it or not.

Agree with the online play. So many co-op games nowadays lack an online mode, it's frustrating. I wanna plays with all you guyses!

You'll get White Castle & Step-Up 3D and like it! Xd

And again, my point is simply that NSMBWii can very easily be played like a team just like other co-op games, but it completely depends on how you play and who you play it with.

The online thing is really gonna hurt when Donkey Kong Country Returns comes out.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 11, 2010, 02:29:17 AM »
I was pretty much just comparing for the sake of similar situations. Wally had a dead mentor, had to control absolute CHAOS in his city, constant tragedy happened to him, and he handled alot of stuff by himself. Both his wife and children were taken from him multiple times, and they even made him forget about her in the middle of their own wedding! But he always went through in his own way, and always succeeded, never giving up, never going down even a little bit. That's what I like about him. Wally did what Peter could not. Because of the way he was written and the way he became. He gained maturity. A wife. Children. Respect by the people of the city and of the world. While Peter has a life of endless [parasitic bomb] to look forward to.

But like you said, that has everything to do with the writing and handling of the character. Wally is allowed to gain maturity. Wally is allowed to have a wife. Wally is allowed to have children. And before Flash: Rebirth, Wally's kids were handled pretty terrible, and thanks to the Geoffenious, they were improved upon! What's truly sad is that Peter is NOT allowed to have these things anymore. I think him having a kid with MJ would be the best thing that could happen to the character of Peter Parker, as it would once again bring home the idea of Peter Parker's responsibility. I never read much of it, but from my understanding, everyone LOVED the character of May-Day Parker in the Spider-Girl comic series. Quesada goes out of his way to show that she'll never exist. Ever. Not as long as he's in charge.

Hell, all you're really stating is that the writers of The Flash are much better than the writers of Spider-Man, and I couldn't agree with you more.

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 02:16:48 AM »
I was going to later. Just tended to other posts for the moment.

Damn right you were, my Most Excellent Superbitch!  8)

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You quoted alot of situations which just don't really cope with regular co-op gameplay. I'm sure there are just for the hell of it, but I don't remember one single game in which co-op play makes it naturally harder instead of easier. I'm not saying I didn't like the game, I had some fun with it. I just found the bump mechanics to really not aid on the usual co-op gameplay the game is aiming for. The whole thing seems much more competitive than cooperative. Most people, and reviews, say so. And the game might be easy for you, but it's not easy for alot of people. Different standards for different people. People who might want to play this game and find that the hindering capabilities of the bump mechanic are annoying as [tornado fang]. Heck, I think it was the Penny Arcade dudes who said "Play this game with someone if you want to hate eachother".

I'll agree to that it doesn't really cope with regular co-op gameplay, but that's because it's not regular co-op gameplay. It's different, and I think it works well for what it is, again depending on who you play with. For instance, lets take TMNTIV: Turtles in Time, arguably one of the best co-op games ever made. In fact, it's so awesome, lets listen to the music while I make my point.  8)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHlFwGoI6ek&feature=related[/youtube]

I don't know if you ever played this in the arcade, but in a game meant for co-op gameplay, I 95% of the time had to deal with some prick who would bring nothing to the Big Apple at 3AM except for laziness and pizza stealing when those of us who were indeed kicking shell needed that pizza. (More often than not, this prick was usually Raph or Leo).  So while I had to waste my begged for hard earned quarters, he was living it up like he was the [tornado fang]ing Shredder.

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YES, I am referring to all of the Mario games in general. Games which don't usually flaunt their co-op mechanic, might I add. >___> That's why I was making the point.

That's because no other 2D Mario game ever had this kind of co-op before. But to me, NSMBWii showed that it can be done, done well, and needs to be [tornado fang]ing done with online capabilities so I can toss my friend from Canada into the liquid hot magma like the syrup sucking whore she is!  8D

Hey, we all WANT to be PB.

Ninja Lou doesn't.  8D

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You don't need to talk to me about how individuals have varying tolerances in what does and doesn't feel like natural control.  God knows I've been in a bazillion circles with PB on that one as it relates to MegaMan Xtreme2.

And we'll have that debate again I'm sure!  8)

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Gaming / Re: Super Smash Bros. Thread
« on: September 11, 2010, 01:53:17 AM »
BAH. Figures you do this while I'm working!

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 11, 2010, 01:50:33 AM »
Honestly? In my opinion, Peter Parker SUCKS. He is one of the most whiny, obnoxious and stupid self-dramatizing BRATS I have ever seen in any kind of storylines. While Spider-Man rules. Dude's always on the move, always with good humor... Heck, it's the reason I'm loving how Shattered Dimensions plays. No Peter Parker, only Spidey.

Wally West's Flash run is pretty much the very idea of Spider-Man done well. Alot of crap happens to his family, loved ones and pretty much everyone he takes care of, due to his public identity. But the whole tale is done in a very good way, even when the Spectre erases public knowledge of his identity (even to himself). He always saves the day, he always makes it right in the end, and he's brought both his wife and children back from the dead. Now that's hardcore.

But Parker pushed through all the whining, the misery of the reality of his life, and kept going with being Spider-Man because he knew he had a responsibility. That's the beauty of the character. Life shat on him, both as Parker & Spider-Man, and he kept pushing through, as both Parker & Spider-Man because of the lessons he learned, and in the end he got the girl. He was rewarded with something good. Sure, his life was still all not that great, but he still had someone that loved him & visa versa. This destroyed all of that and brought him even further back to the whinyness than even the last 5-6 years of awful Spidey writing did.

Also, Wally West can really not be compared to Peter Parker. They are two completely different characters. Wally West started off as a hero at a young age, even younger that Parker. He had a mentor to fully teach him how to use his powers and to set an example. He had other teenage costumed heroes he hung out with and they grew into their own family. And after Barry's death, Wally properly assumed the mantle of the Flash and builds a life for himself. Yes, there are some story comparisons. Like Linkara pointed out, there was an event with Wally in which Neron does indeed steal Wally's love & marriage, and it's done so much better than OMD. Of course, as brilliantly written and reinforced by Geoff Johns, a writer who uses the past to reinforce his version, Wally's love for Linda is his lightning rod, his way home, so that whole thing has more importance than OMD. But Wally never suffered as much as Peter did. Ever. Especially early on in his crime-fighting career.

Now, do I think Wally West is a better character than Peter Parker? Yes, I do. But I think it stems more from the fact that he's been handled sooooooooooooooooo much better as a character than Peter Parker by the writers.  If anything, it's why The Spectacular Spider-Man is, IMO, the best version of Spider-Man I've ever seen, if you want to compare Peter Parker characters.

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 01:29:26 AM »
Hey, you didn't respond to me! For shaaaame.   8)

Dear God. You still don't understand. My point is that there is no POINT in playing the game in multiplayer other than making the game harder and having someone to [tornado fang] around with.

Already proved this wrong in my previous post. I'm awesome.

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The game isn't suited for co-op in any way in the gameplay and levels themselves. And the shared powerups further increase the point of non-helping. Having powerups for one person or another contributes for cooperation in games like Streets of Rage, where your health is lower and you tell the other guy he should get the health item.


Also proved this wrong with my description of certain situations. But for the sake of my awesomeness... If one person is lower in lives, which can be considered a power-up, you can let the other player or players or playas get one of the many, MANY 1-Up Shrooms that pop up. If one player is limp and small, you let them get the half way flag to give them a taste of cocklicious rising Mango! Having one guy have the power of Fire and another the power of Ice is incredibly helpful and does make it easier especially on certain levels where lots and lots of baddies are falling on your floating raft from above.

The game isn't easier with just single player. It's just an easy game as a whole, cause it's [tornado fang]ing Super Mario Bros.

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In this game, though? There's no point on ridding the world of enemies unless they're in your way, and there's pretty much no chance to help the other person out of some kind of mess unless you're really lucky or well-positioned, and going through a tough level with someone else doesn't make it easier, it makes it harder. So there's pretty much no point except for screwing off with other people.

Wait, lemme read that again...

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In this game, though? There's no point on ridding the world of enemies unless they're in your way

I REALLY hope you're not referring to JUST this game and excluding all 2D Mario games, because there's NEVER a need to kill enemies in 2D Mario games unless they're in your way. I mean, Raccoon Mario, Cape Mario, Blue Yo oh Oh OH YEAH! I WANT TO GET AWAY. I WANNA FLLLLYYYYYY AWAAAAAAAAAAY! YEAAHH YEAAHH YEEEEAAAAHHHHH!  8D

But otherwise, I think I covered pretty much everything else, in my sexcellent fashion!


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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 11, 2010, 12:32:16 AM »
Unmasking COULD have been a good decision, if the Civil War status quo of perfect utopian Tony Stark world of every single hero in the US working for SHIELD remained for good. With a whole new status quo, we would have been able to have new and interesting stories. But we all knew it didn't. It was amazingly stupid.

The problem is that he didn't have to publicly unmask. You're right, if he had just unmasked for the govt. & SHIELD (still stupid but like you said could've produced some good stories) it could have worked. In fact, it was one of the main problems I had with Civil War in the first place. It was never going to work.

That would AGE him. Quesada wants to make him into the forever teen.

Yep. That's one of the things I meant when I say that Spider-Man himself is more important than the character Peter Parker.

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 11, 2010, 12:26:30 AM »
Not everyone has the keen interest and newfond dexterity of a child finding new things. I played Alex Kidd in Miracle World when I was 4. I taught my sister how to play some games with me when she was 3. Yet my mother still can't press the [tornado fang]ing "on" button on the net TV box because she's used to the normal antenna instead of a cable fee, and her mind cannot possibly comprehend turning on two separate things to watch television. Different people for different stuff. I do agree that the Mario games are easy and intuitive enough for anyone to play. The point I'm trying to make in the first place, is that more people besides hardcore gamers with time on their hands play them, as opposed as to what Hipershell was saying.

That's precisely my point. My mom could never handle Super Mario Bros. either. So she doesn't play it. She sticks to puzzle games and is quite content with it. My mom is a puzzle gamer, that's it. But for the average, every day gamer not to be able to handle NSMB is absurd.  If the other people besides hardcore gamers with time on their hands can't figure out what could arguably be considered the most simple of platformers, which gives you enough lives for damn near immortality, then that's just not the game for them.

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It wasn't just the E3. Nintendo completely shifted their attention for a loooooong time, until they recently found out that they were getting very bad PR amongst game-playing people, so they changed their ways in this last E3, supporting both their audiences. They still did a ton of amazingly stupid choices with the Wii that I can't possibly comprehend, though. (one of which being the lack of hard drive and incompatibility with one)

Or another way to look at it is that Nintendo focused on a completely untapped market, grabbed a hold of it, and pretty much monopolized it to the point where I don't think Kinect or Move will do all that well with the crowd they are trying to get from Nintendo (at this point I think Move has much more of a chance than Kinect).  The fact of the matter is, despite the "very bad PR amongst game-playing people" they made an Nintencredible fuckton of money, and that's all that matters. Plus, they're not stupid. They know that 95% of the same game-playing people that complain will flock back to them once a game that tickles their addictive gaming fancy comes out.

Once it stops making that fuckton of money, they'll release a new system, and like the good gamers we are, we'll buy it, hook line & 3DSucker!

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And Jesus Christ, my point is getting trouble making it across... what I'm saying is that New Super Mario Bros has poor co-op play because playing the game cooperatively doesn't help you in progression, it merely hinders you. Taking into account more people on the screen at the same time and having to constantly check who jumps to what platform first and who stays where was a stupid thing to take into account with everyone bumping with each other in the game. To play the game efficiently, there needs to be a level of synchronization which doesn't really apply to the usual "get together, have some fun and play games for a short while" environment that most co-op games can supply.

I understand your point perfectly. Again, I still say that what you described depends entirely on the people playing it. If I were to use me playing with Ninja Lou as an example, some of the Star Coins were much easier to get with 2 people than one. Efficiency is based upon how efficient you and your friends decide to be. This is what makes the game so great. If you decide to play it seriously, the co-op aspect of it is perfectly fine, and that 2nd or 3rd person, whether using his skull as a jumping platform, whether using his propeller suit body to fly your powerless form into the sky, whether having him wield the power of ice while you handle the power of fire, or whether having him handle the flood light on the boat or the rising crane of peril, can be extremely helpful in playing the game. Or, with 45 lives each, you can be a complete ass and throw his punk ass into the liquid hot magma.

To me, that's the ultimate beauty of the game. How you co-operate with each other is entirely up to you, and while Lou & I do co-operate well when needed, we're still both pricks!  8D

I love it when people talk such bullshit. Mario has crossed so many genres it's pretty damn hard to track him, and each and every single one of his new games has been completely different from the other, in both levels, environment, and gameplay. There were more similarities in the first Mario games than the current ones. The current ones keep evolving him beyond what he in, in the good way.

Shooters? You mean first person shooter games and third-person shooter games? You have NO idea what you're talking about. Call of Duty, even within its own iterations, feels quite different from one game to another, as well as other modern FPS games around. Take the Halo series. The reason why so many people like it, it's because it's so damn different from the normal, realistic shooter. It's not realistic at all, it's cartoony, colorful, and it lets you bounce around and do crazy [parasitic bomb] with different crazy weapons. Uncharted and Gears of War? Completely different games, each one thriving on what they're good at, and both having incredible strengths on what comes out of them.

Sports games? Go to hell, seriously. Sports games are meant to either give you an accurate simulation of a sport using a good control scheme for a great competitive environment, successfully improving little by little on the accurate system with each iteration, or to give you a more different way to play a certain sport. Both of those niches are quite well filled through the years.

And RPGs have not only been trying to mix quite alot of their formula recently, but they've been trying new stuff, having more and more content, and being enriched with tons and tons of story, details and backgrounds to stuff. Look at Bioware's current stuff, it's awesome and very detailed. Or Bethesda's stuff.


Currently, we live in a new golden age of gaming where there's something for everyone, and companies keep trying to evolve their own standards in order to be better and better than the competition. Compare this to years ago, where the competition was a bit null and pretty much everything, good or bad ended up on a single console. Quality THRIVES, independent games are getting attention, there are games which go beyond regular concepts and abstract plots and go the extra mile to please people, artistic games, competitive games, fantastic games which give us amazing experiences...

People bitching about the current age are pretty much living through nostalgia. Gaming is as good as it ever was. It's just evolved.

Oh, and not that this has any relevance to my discussion, but I agree with everything said here!  8)

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 10, 2010, 11:57:36 PM »
Looks like Civil War might be the cause of Peter making the deal with the devil. It's my assumption, since I noticed a trend how bad comic book plots have been getting these days (lolgrimdark).

Yes and no. Again, Spidey has been written like [parasitic bomb] for a good 5-6 years now or longer. Civil War was one of the main reasons, because he publicly unmasked himself, which is easily the stupidest decision in comic book history. But in the end it all boils down to [parasitic bomb] writing by Quesada. If he wanted to end their marriage, there were just so many many many other ways to do it.

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Entertainment / Re: GENERAL COMIC BOOK THREAD (MANGA NOT ALLOWED)
« on: September 10, 2010, 09:55:12 PM »
So, guess the only super that hasn't been Tampered by Quesada is Iron Man? I might look into those.

Well I've never been the biggest Iron Man fan overall, but I think his character was also pretty much ruined in Civil War. However, I don't know what's going on with him lately.

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Gaming / Re: Sonic Colors (Wii, DS)
« on: September 10, 2010, 09:53:36 PM »
Of course. Because every single person who casually picks up the game and plays it in a friendly environment is thereby obligated to learn how to play it through a series of videos. That's [tornado fang]ing retarded, son.

Videos aside, anyone over the age of, I'll say 6-7 who cannot figure out how to play New Super Mario Bros, which is essentially 10x Easier Super Mario Bros, should not be allowed to play platformer games. Period. My 5 year old niece figured it out. Of course, she is MY niece after all!  8D

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The Virtual Console is a quick way for Nintendo to make money out of selling roms without having any kind of work offering any of the good options roms offer. Outside of that, aside from recent times, Nintendo has maintained quite a big turn for the casual during alot of the Wii's run. Remember E3 2008? Nintendo has even admitted they's making a console for "everyone". That "for the hardcore" line was very unfortunate coming from you.

Agreed on the Virtual Console, for the most part. The fact that it does not offer online multiplayer for certain games, Mario Kart 64 being the greatest example, kinda sucks.  Although, that's secretly a blessing, because I'd probably play nothing else!  XD

As for E3, that's simple PR. Every company does it. Some do it well, some [tornado fang] up at times, others just completely fail. PR is PR.

Which multiplayer co-op game EVER, in the entire history of gaming, was tougher in co-op than in singleplayer mode simply because the fact that other players are there kept hindering your progress? There's such a thing as good multiplayer co-op, which is when players cooperate with each other to do something, and bad multiplayer co-op. The simple fact that one can throw another does not make for good cooperation. Good cooperation is when players actively help one, whether it's fighting enemies, protecting each other or solving scenario puzzles cooperatively. That is what cooperative play means. This is just... playing while having some fucks there who might screw up your game.

LoL, bullshit. Everything you described is 100% dependent on the people you're playing with, not the game itself.  

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