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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: September 17, 2011, 12:28:24 PM »
They've been every bit as original over the last generation, though.  It's just that we, the "core" audience, no longer take that originality to be aimed at us.
If you consider Ferrarri dropping out of the racecar market and starting to make Volkswagens "original", then sure. Nintendo were really original with Wii Sports. Then made a crapload of sequels with other peripherals, which would ironically be some of the only games to ever use the Wii's controls to their full advantage.

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The problem with that is that the entire point of the Prototype was to provide a gauge as to whether or not the final game would be greenlit.  So the fans, at least, knew that the Prototype was in no way indicative that the game would finish.
I mean that the Devroom, in theory at least, was supposed to provide a more open atmosphere to game development, and there are those within Capcom who didn't want that.  Which is probably why 90% of the time, getting them to show anything actually relevant to Legends 3 was like pulling teeth.  Gregaman goes on to make note of such people in his farewell post, as well.  If there's one thing businesses value near as much as money, it's control.  The Prototype version would have pushed the Devroom a lot harder, by people who likely wouldn't be satisfied with simply hearing about Kinako's favorite snacks.
Fully agree with them wanting more and more control. What baffles me, is that they could have kept the Devroom going simply for PR reasons, to show they care about their fans. But they went full "evil company" when it comes to their image. They didn't try to justify or connect to the consumer in any way whatsoever, they just did it and left it to the blog people to handle the small things. I don't get it. It doesn't make any sense from a business perspective.

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See, the cancellation of the Prototype when it was effectively finished is what stands out to me.  You can't say "they only care about money" when they backed out of a chance to make whatever return they could by that point (to say nothing of the complete and STILL CONTINUING absence of any competition on the e-Shop).  And while there are surely Capcom execs pissed at Inafune, I don't think they'd empty their wallets to the point of paying for another 8-9 months of development for absolutely nothing.  Legends isn't Universe; it didn't fall silent upon Inafune leaving.  If it was simply to spite Inafune, Legends 3 would never have been cancelled any later than the February meeting.
They couldn't make it seem as if Inafune was the only person keeping Legends 3 being made. The team carried on making the game, and they probably had to make up an excuse and try and make it seem as if the game wasn't going to work anyway, instead of throwing a huge baby fit right after he quit. They did that with Mega Man Universe. They probably just saw Legends 3 still being made a few months down the road, and went: "What's his crap still doing here?" I don't actually believe these execs pay any attention to the stuff within the company except for the sales market, what comes in and out economically.

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Entertainment / Re: Star Wars Blu Ray is out!
« on: September 17, 2011, 12:17:14 PM »
To those who say Lucas should release the original films untouched, he did cave in to fan demands a few years ago and released the original trilogy in the form of bonus discs within the trilogy itself.
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Widescreen-Theatrical/dp/B001EN71DG/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1316254498&sr=1-1

The movies are there, untouched, but still unformatted for widescreen, so you'll have to watch them old-style.

And it IS Lucas' fault. I remember it when he criticized stories like KOTOR II for giving depth to the Sith and having their motivations be one of finding morality in certain deeds than be absolutely ridiculous caricatures of evil fighting ridiculous caricatures of good. Lucas wouldn't have any depth in Star Wars. 90% of the Star Wars book writers also write much better than him. They shoulda gotten Timothy Zahn to write the prequel trilogy story. He already has plenty of experience writing the sequel trilogy books.  Heck, probably every single person who's ever contributed to the extended universe is a better writer, and makes a better story than Lucas. But he's a whiny man who bitches about things if they have more success than him. Like the mess he turned the Clone Wars cartoon in after Tartakovsky made it absolutely awesome.

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IR was pure speculation on my part...
20 bucks by the same logic that said the 3DS would be 300.
It ironically ended up being close to 300 in most of the world anyway. =P

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 17, 2011, 11:58:22 AM »
Who here thought that Genesis in Crisis Core was pretty much an excuse for the guy to add as much pretentious monologues than ever? =P All he needs to say is that he's quoting some kinda book he loves, and he can put as many "Look at meeee, I'm speaking in riddles cuz I'm smart, although my character is paper thin!". He loves his shiny-haired evil androgynous men speaking in dramatic overtones, even though their intentions are pretty much the same as any DBZ villain.

Anyway, gameplay's looking pretty awesome, and the new moves are cool. And those pet things move as adorably as they look. Gameplay-wise, I don't think we're ever gonna have to worry about card systems and limitated movesets ever again, because all new consoles can pretty much handle it all.

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: September 17, 2011, 04:01:10 AM »
A [tornado fang]ing question of honor, then? Of "decency", maybe? The Capcom execs weren't really fond of the man who had created so many franchises for them and made them so much money, and they kept resisting his methods, because they believed, against all odds, that they knew how to run a company better than the man who pretty much made Capcom what it truly was/is. Mostly because he probably wanted to bring new innovative methods of running the place, and they were stuck in their traditional ways. So when he wanted to leave because he just couldn't [tornado fang]ing take it anymore... they took it as a betrayal. And made him leave. And then, they destroyed the projects he had worked so hard to create so they would still happen without him.

So basically, yeah. Inafune may be biased, but without Capcom manning up and explaining their side of the story themselves, I can only conclude that they cancelled Legends 3 out of spite, to put it bluntly, simply and without runarounds. Sad, really, but looks like people in power are like children when it comes to this kind of [parasitic bomb].

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 17, 2011, 03:56:58 AM »
@Kharaxel

While most people don't read as much books as they use to, the KH is the best story ever is mostly opinion anyway. Also, Kindgom Hearts is a complex story but its complex for the wrong reasons, the direction of the series wasn't really that well thought out and you can tell that they are mostly in it for the money. I ask ths again, how 'complex' of a story do you need about a shonen boy hero with a key shaped sword fighting alongside with a dog and a duck?


Same as (almost) every single anime ever. Complexity doesn't rely on the story being deep or the narrative having quality. It relies on how much bullshit you can pile on top and have it be referenced all the time so only "smart fans" will get it.

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It's being shown as a new development in a recent interview, though.

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http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/119/1195061p1.html

Posting for drama purposes. New revelations 'n [parasitic bomb].

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Entertainment / Re: Star Wars Blu Ray is out!
« on: September 17, 2011, 01:11:48 AM »
I've seen two packs on sale, one with each trilogy, each costing about 45 euros.

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: September 17, 2011, 01:02:20 AM »
Too true! Also, from a business perspective, it kinda makes sense to wanna cancel your rivals productions. He gets two games going and then leaves to start his own company? I would cancel his games too. What if he started them in an attempt of sabotage? Would you trust a guy who quit on you?
I don't really think it was that kind of angry manuever, but a bit more about making Capcom their own after he left, a bit for honor's sake. Since Keji left, we've seen a whole slew of bad decisions, and many of them based on the typical japanese style of controlling a business that he criticized in the first place. I'm thinking his way of thinking must've been because of Capcom's methods more than anything else.

EDIT:

http://www.gameblurb.net/news/capcom-refused-to-let-keiji-inafune-to-complete-mega-man-legends-3/

Reasons revealed. (at least I think, I can't load the damn page)

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Entertainment / Re: Star Wars Blu Ray is out!
« on: September 16, 2011, 11:28:11 PM »
Might as well be me posting these:

To those who don't know, these are the new changes good ol' Uncle Lucas made to our beloved films.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0EUjobdavw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&src_vid=J0EUjobdavw&v=27RVJJfny4I&annotation_id=annotation_900451[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_916826&v=RnLgh3dudSk&feature=iv&src_vid=27RVJJfny4I[/youtube]

There's also a clip of Sebulba (or someone like him I dunno) in Jabba's Palace, and a few changes with the prequel trilogy, but who cares, really?

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 11:23:10 PM »
Do you guys know what pisses me off? Like very, very much?
I can't go to a youtube video about KH (be it a trailer or something) and not see someone make a remark such as: "KH IS THE BEST STORY EVER TOLD!"
And it's sometimes even from people who are 18 years old or older. I mean, what? Don't they read books or even watch movies? I mean... I just don't [tornado fang]ing get it. The story is entertaining yes, but it's not in any shape of form "The best story ever". It makes we want to punch them in the face. Repeatedly.
Explanation to yet another thing, which will undoubtly [acid burst] alot of people off, but I really don't give a [tornado fang]:

Kingdom Hearts... at least the saga as it is now, is a shonen anime. It has the depth and complexity of a big anime, which means characters alive and dead, super form names, power levels, place names and weapon models are a given. Anime, at least the typical common type, because I've seen some pretty good ones, thinks that slamming a huge amount of details and facts in things is comparable to story quality.

Kids these days don't read books. Therefore, we find quite a few idiots thinking that Final Fantasy VII is the greatest story ever, simply because it's the most they ever read in their lives. Kingdom Hearts is fanfiction with children's movies, which will be recognizeable to them, and it's a large number of facts they can understand.

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Gaming / Re: DmC TGS demo
« on: September 16, 2011, 09:22:51 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrLPUiNXQu0[/youtube]

For comparison's sake.

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:37:28 PM »

What I edited it TO summed it all up pretty nicely.

But it's honestly impossible to play BBS without thinking of the Star Wars prequels.

...specially with Luke and Spock in the same game.

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:27:13 PM »
I mean to only anoy. The rest is accidental. =P

I seriously hope Nomura comes up with something good for that. I don't mind Neku's appearance, I even love it. But TWEWY had a kind of... well, long story short, it's the best damn story Nomura ever came up with, and one of the DS' greatest games. It wrapped up so well, I'd hate a sequel. So appearances like these, if well managed, could make sure we get an AWESOME Death God game dose, as well as keep away from ruining the perfect ending the first game had.

Not just that, but TWEWY was very much like a dark KH, with Tokyo instead of Disney, and a much darker plot. It's pretty cool that we'll finally see Neku fight the Noise in 3D, maybe even have him as Traverse Town's partner? I dunno, but it's been a long time since a Kingdom Hearts-related new character has made me this happy.

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:07:42 PM »
Fine, I'll edit it.

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DASH / Re: It's dead, Jim.
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:05:53 PM »
While that is all true, I also think fans misinterpreted what Capcom meant when they said they where gonna judge if they should make L3 by the amount of heat the prototype generated. I think they literally meant hype, not sales. And they judged hype by the devroom. The hype for this game was no where near what it is now. If we had this kind of support back then, I think we would be playing the prototype right now. Truth is though, I don't think this was a fair way to judge anything, not everyone that was looking forward to this was interested in the dev room. Can't say I blame them, it wasn't very interesting.

TL;DR: We didn't beg enough.
I'm kinda thinking they were going to cancel the game either way. Inafune quits, and right after, they cancel the game? The guy was the stone in their foot that they needed to bring the hammer down. After he left, two games which were not just his pet franchise, but aimed at FANS rather than sales, completely centered around the consumer and not just to get money?

Capcom was dying to being the hammer down on these things.

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 06:33:00 PM »
Another explanation as to why the whole damn plot is so convulted:

Everything after KH1: ASSPULL.

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Gaming / Re: DmC TGS demo
« on: September 16, 2011, 05:18:33 PM »
Ninja Theory can do pretty. What they can't do, is complexingly good controls for deep gameplay.

Their last game was basically Uncharted without the shooting. Which leaves, um... automatic linear platforming 101?

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Gaming / Re: DmC TGS demo
« on: September 16, 2011, 03:50:36 PM »
Don't be mean. He just did that once, right?

Also, nobody wants to give their impressions on the video? It kinda annoyed me that you could stun all enemies at once with the devil trigger.

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 02:33:55 PM »
It was on a list of compatible games for the peripheral.
Good then. It'll help with the menu as well in other setups, I bet.

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Gaming / Re: DmC TGS demo
« on: September 16, 2011, 02:28:09 PM »
No idea. He a fan?

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Gaming / Re: DmC TGS demo
« on: September 16, 2011, 01:43:01 PM »
I just truly, truly hope this game is unsuccessful. And that fans don't tard it up and buy it anyway out of curiosity.

This isn't a bad game, but it's a bad Devil May Cry. Reviewers will love it, due to it being visually good and casual as all hell in terms of combat. It will sell. But I hope it sells less than other DMC games. Capcom need to know they made a mistake by choosing a game developer that has been making unsuccessful games so far, games that haven't sold as much as expected, and that have centered too much around being a movie, instead of having good gameplay. They shouldn't just pick the first western developer who makes action games they see to build upon such a strong franchise. Specially one with the reputation of making ripoffs of ripoffs of their games.

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Gaming / Re: The Kingdom Hearts Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 01:38:54 PM »
The gameplay looks nice. I hope it's compatible with the second slide pad for the camera, though.

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Gaming / Re: DmC TGS demo
« on: September 16, 2011, 12:44:21 PM »
But with DMC2, you could plainly see that the gameplay was [tornado fang]'d. With this game, the gameplay's JUST like Heavenly Sword. It's like they made no effort to hide it at all. Each strike feels like a heavy blow through the speed the game goes. They had to slow it down because the damn engine only runs at 30fps.

And it seems that, from the easily managed combos, you can AIR COMBO FOREVER. Something that took skill and patience to do in Devil May Cry for a little bit, is suddenly a mashing affair. The guy playing it doesn't seem to be TOO skilled, due to being hit a few times with really easy enemies. So, yeah. The new Devil May Cry is simply another God of War/Heavenly Sword, starring a drugged-up chav.

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