When it gets to the point where one of the biggest metroid "memes" dare I say; Is about how Samus will always lose her upgrades if a pebble so much as brushes her foot during a new mission, then not really.
So according to that logic, it's better to do something original that works really bad, than something cliché that works well?
I recall only monologues being right after she is picked up by the federation in the intro and tutorial, which is pretty much right after Super Metroid, and is the first time she has been conscious since her fight with Mother Brain.
Then she gets a "baby's cry" distress signal, the name of which reminds her of what happened very recently.
After that, she sees a baby metroid near the end of the game, and is reminded of her meeting with the other baby metroid. she isnt monologing at this point, simply contemplating.
All her monologue makes her seem like a whiny [sonic slicer] who cannot possibly live without Adam. Not to mention dwelling on the baby's death for WEEKS.
Somebody missed the point about EXCLUDING ADAM AND RIDLEY from the equation. Without Adam and Ridely, around, Samus is the same Samus as usual, killing alien species in isolation.
Which is the problem in itself. Why should she be reduced to a pathetic garbling [sonic slicer] who feels like she has to obey to every single order Adam gives? Why should she be like that? She doesn't behave professionally. She doesn't behave like a veteran (which she is after all she's been through) and she definetly doesn't behave like someone who actually has been through what she has.
I recall the space pirates only coming up after they learned that The federation was cloning them for some reason. Thats no reason to believe Ridley is there too. Why the hell would they clone the one who can control them against the Federation? From their perspectives, thats how it is. Federation was simply cloning the pirates, to have soldiers.
They took over only when MB turned against the ship. Also, do mind she only went bad because she thought she had been betrayed. She began to develop emotuons, and was criticizing things. So naturally, what do you do when a robot is making you butthurt? Try to reprogram it! *Of course.jpg* And that made it worse. But she is still a robot, and after she went bad, it was too late. she had already decided that her answer was logically correct. the Humans had to be "punished".
If say... Scientists hadnt been asshats to the damn robot that was only trying to do what she thought was right, then the [parasitic bomb] that went down on the Bottle ship might not have happened. I say Might of course, because Ridley was still there, meaning eventually he might have attacked and then led the Pirates to revolt.
Let me put it this way. If you walk into a laboratory and you see Goombas and Koopa Troopas coming out of vats, you obviously can be damn sure Bowser's gonna be at the end of the room in the biggest vat of all.
If they were amazingly stupid enough to make MB and fall into the most clichéd, the most overused, the most obvious plot point in ALL OF SCIENCE FICTION.
- Create intelligent being/computer superior to us- Teach it to think by itself
- Honoes, it's betraying us! How did we not see this coming?
It was good back in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Not anymore.
Also, dont forget the Auroras. they are even MORE blatant Mother Brain clones. or did you forget the blueprint trailer showing what totally looks like the final stage of Metroid? (AKA Mother Brain's room) They worked rather well. Only problem was when they were kidnapped due to their lack of mobility or defense. And even then, Its safe to assume that after 3, they STILL use he remaining Auroras.
What, you mean the bounty hunters? They arent federation. And shes never had a joint federation mission before Other M, unless you count lending a helping hand to the federation base, even though she was simply hired to do that. The only OTHER joint mission was the beginning of Fusion where she gets infected by X. But even that was just a job to escort the scientists. (and defend them if necessary)
My mistake on that part, then.
BTW, you mentioned earlier, Super Metroid's intro with Ridley to be worse? Like Zan said, thats in her ideal surroundings. And even then, we never got ANY characteriation from Samus. Even when the baby dies. The only emotions are the one that the player feels, and assumes Samus does too, since we ARE Samus.
And like I said before, I'm completely okay with them giving her pretty much any characterization at all. I did not see her as a badass bounty hunter before, and I did not see her as an amazing character in any way. I saw her exactly like Link and Mario. Characters who don't say a word for most of the time and do things because they need to be done. What I'm arguing, is that the story of Other M is awful, and it is a very, very, veeeeery bad way to tie the gameplay together. You can clearly see that while they refer to many past events and include alot of old bosses for fan appeal, the story in itself has the quality of fanfiction. And whoever wrote it is a horrible writer and should stick with keeping Metroid mostly without a plot.
meanwhile, while she is already facing a VERY unexpected emotional situation, since she was unprepared to run into Adam,
This is what I got a problem with. She shouldn't transform into a shambling, drooling human being with a fetish for submission when she sees Adam. He did NOT have that much of an effect on her through all that happened.
She sees Ridley rising from the fire, in what is a very obvious metaphor for Ridley rising from the firely pits of Hell for Samus
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you're giving Nintendo waaaaaay too much credit. Why was Ridley in a lava room? Because boss fights in lava rooms are hella rad. Moving on.
when she also did not expect to ever see him again either, ESPECIALLY after destroying the space pirates that would bring him back. There was just no way he could have come back.
You know, just like the last hundred times she ran into pirates and destroyed them all. That logic doesn't make sense, because Nintendo just doesn't think that far in terms of story. Specially in a story with the Hal 9000 plot twist.
So, she recently had a sad experience with the baby, which she was just about getting over, then she unexpectedly runs into Adam, catching her off guard and dragging back up unpleasant and conflicted memories and emotions, and THEN, to top it off, Her arch Nemesis returns from Hell itself. In this case, Ridley was the final stresser. She couldnt take the pressure, and cracked. ALL of those factors influenced her PTSD meltdown.
All of which are completely pathetic, completely normal factors for someone like Samus, and her overreactions further destroy her character completely.
Flash, did you read the rest of this thread? we have already discussed ALL of this to hell and back....
Yes. I'm not arguing against story facts. I'm arguing against this story making any sense at all. Because it's a tale of cliché plots, amazingly badly-crafted characters and the least amount of ambiance from any Metroid game so far. No matter how much people argue, there's simply no way they thought of stuff this thoroughly. Just as they had never created a personality for Samus before. Just like the Zelda games aren't all interconnected in a gigantic timeline with small details in the story somehow bringing them all together.
This isn't a JJ Abrams show. It's a Nintendo game.
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